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Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread

Postby Agent Orange Cooper » Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:20 pm

Great post, dnc.

divideandconquer » Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:47 am wrote:I know that the fake scenario/staged terror event theory is not popular at RI, especially the "no one died" one. And I do not believe that all of these events are 100% faked, maybe not any of them, but I do believe fakery and pre-planning is evident and involved, to one degree or another, in almost all of the mass shootings over the last few years... the ones that are heavily covered by the media, anyway.

It's clear to me that they have no problem lying to the public and it's also clear to me that they have no regard for human life, however, they have proved themselves masters of illusion, at making things appear other than they actually are. And, despite their disregard for human life, there are many benefits to staging events.

Number one, It gives them a lot more control. makes things less messy. For every person that is shot, there are family, friends, neighbors, co-workers, employees, employers, medical personnel, first responders, etc.,., that will be asking questions, demanding answers, filing lawsuits, starting web pages, shouting from the rooftops, coming out of the woodwork for years to come, etc. When over 100 people are shot, that's thousands and thousands of people!! Not to mention, the real unpredictable consequences that result from the kind of violence that takes on a life of its own,

Take 9/11. Some of the victims families, firefighters, police, continue to be thorns in the side of government. Thanks to the Internet, it's harder to conceal these people who demand answers and sometimes even legislation, such as all of the first responders suffering from the toxic environment after 9/11. Ignoring these troublesome individuals or groups no longer works as well when people can easily search out the information for themselves. In other words, old school false flags do not work as well in the information age.

Moreover, we're lab rats and even a source of entertainment --I picture them laughing at the gullible masses...they'll believe anything!--for these demented people. So I think that these events always involve a bit of "scientific experimentation" or testing to see how far they can go. That's why these events continue to escalate and involve more absurd circumstances, such as we saw when the authorities did absolutely nothing to secure the residence of accused killer in the last mass shooting and apparently failed to lock down anything but witness testimony, or anyone or anything that causes problems for the official narrative etc., in this mass shooting. That's why we're allowed to see what appears to be blatant errors, like people with severed legs sitting up with not a care in the world, glimpses of people laughing on the sidelines, victims preparing like actors, lack of ambulances, lack of authentic hysteria, an indifference that is totally at odds with what just took place etc. It's one big test, experiment, and probably entertainment

There is a very definite pattern. The formula is always the same:

    Some evidence of foreknowledge

    Named perpetrators association with some part of the MIC

    Drills that took place in the very same area either at the time or before. In the case of Orlando, supposedly in March of this year.

    Lack of eyewitnesses and/or eyewitnesses with conflicting accounts.

    Perpetrator named and demonized within hours after shooting.

    Shoot to kill ratio off the charts by non-professional.

    Named perp dead or apparently drugged out of his or her mind.

    Some sort of manifesto or professed belief system that ties in perfectly with government agenda.

    Evidence conveniently destroyed.

    No obvious motive or conflicted motive from someone who doesn't appear to be that motivated...by anything. Such as we have here with supposedly a gay or bisexual man disgusted by gay men kissing and a so-called history that doesn't mesh with real life accounts of this person. Such as we saw with Sandy Hook: a scrawny boy who pulled off what only elite forces could

    Many of the victims appearing in MSM have acting backgrounds

    Lack of lawsuits from family of victims.

    Fundraising and federal payouts in the millions

    Unsolicited millions and/or houses (Sandy Hook) paid out to people associated with victims.

That's off the top of my head, so I'm sure I'm failing to include everything.

And, once again, I find the new law that prohibits searching social security death index for three years highly suspicious. After all, that would provide evidence of death (unless they add fake people...I don't know). After three years, who's going to remember to search when there is a mass shootings are as American as apple pie.

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Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread

Postby chump » Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:29 pm



This video first shows a discrepancy between some newsreel shots of a witness who claims, “they came, got me, brought me straight out to a stretcher and then out to an ambulance.” But, the video shows him being carried by two guys back toward the bar in order to stage a shot for the mainsteam news.

The video also points that out the Medical Examiner, “Dr Joshua Stephany, was named to that position on the previous Tuesday (only 5 days before the shooting), has quite a few screen credits to his name, including six appearances on on a “documentary/TV series… Dr G - Medical Examiner”. In fact, part of the the report on CNN features a clip from that series, courtesy Atlas Media, showing the doctor at work...

More about the interim ME - who plays on TV:
https://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2016/06/ ... p-fiction/

The monotony of theatre


Investigation into the PULSE FALSE FLAG has moved forward with the revelation of G4S and their connection to CRISISCAST.ORG. As for the IMDb scrubbing of the thespian known as Omar Mateen and his ties to the Obamachange agenda, we can also take note of the Carver Constant.
On December 14, Wayne H. Carver directed actors and cars as a firefighter. The next day, he was the medical examiner for the postmortem.

Wayne Carver, M.E., Fireman, Traffic Cop

As we saw in Sandy Hook, the bizarre dramatics and comedy of H. Wayne Carver, ME and the rest of the troupe were something to behold. The odd couple actor could not have been any better depicted, had Quincy, MD shown up behind the podium. Even conspirator, Piers Morgan was unimpressed with his performance. (see tweets)

So who is Joshua D. Stephany, MD?
... (continued at link above)
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Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread

Postby Grizzly » Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:34 pm

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Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread

Postby American Dream » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:40 pm

Philly Orlando shooting survivor Patience Carter now fighting off conspiracy theorists

A Philadelphia native and Fox 29 intern who survived the Orlando mass shooting has disputed claims on social media that she was a “crisis actor” for the station, and was not actually at Pulse nightclub when the incident occurred.

Patience Carter, who was shot in the right leg but survived the shooting that claimed 49 lives, posted on Instagram Friday a picture of her cast and thanked Orlando Hospital workers and her supporters. She added she was discharged from the hospital.

Carter also thanked “skeptics” who believe she wasn’t at the shooting and claim she is posing as a “crisis actor” for Fox 29. "It's your outrageous insensitivity that makes me want to heal even faster, and grow even stronger," she wrote.

The conspiracy theory first arose in a YouTube video Tuesday, which also claims the entire shooting was staged.

Conspiracy theorists, like the narrator in the video, believe crisis actors are people paid by the government or media to deceive the public through signs of trauma and suffering after staged acts of violence, like mass shootings or terrorist attacks.

The theory quickly spread on social media, as supporters tried to prove that Carter was involved in a “false flag” event.


Continues at: http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/real ... actor.html
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Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread

Postby brekin » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:05 pm

chump » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:29 am wrote:

This video first shows a discrepancy between some newsreel shots of a witness who claims, “they came, got me, brought me straight out to a stretcher and then out to an ambulance.” But, the video shows him being carried by two guys back toward the bar in order to stage a shot for the mainsteam news.

The video also points that out the Medical Examiner, “Dr Joshua Stephany, was named to that position on the previous Tuesday (only 5 days before the shooting), has quite a few screen credits to his name, including six appearances on on a “documentary/TV series… Dr G - Medical Examiner”. In fact, part of the the report on CNN features a clip from that series, courtesy Atlas Media, showing the doctor at work...

More about the interim ME - who plays on TV:
https://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2016/06/ ... p-fiction/

The monotony of theatre


Investigation into the PULSE FALSE FLAG has moved forward with the revelation of G4S and their connection to CRISISCAST.ORG. As for the IMDb scrubbing of the thespian known as Omar Mateen and his ties to the Obamachange agenda, we can also take note of the Carver Constant.
On December 14, Wayne H. Carver directed actors and cars as a firefighter. The next day, he was the medical examiner for the postmortem.

Wayne Carver, M.E., Fireman, Traffic Cop

As we saw in Sandy Hook, the bizarre dramatics and comedy of H. Wayne Carver, ME and the rest of the troupe were something to behold. The odd couple actor could not have been any better depicted, had Quincy, MD shown up behind the podium. Even conspirator, Piers Morgan was unimpressed with his performance. (see tweets)

So who is Joshua D. Stephany, MD?
... (continued at link above)


So because a guy is carried towards the direction of the Pulse club, no matter how briefly, and disregarding this is a crime and emergency scene with probably lots of barriers and obstacles, he is a crisis actor and his wounds fake. And because the Medical Examiner was on a documentary series about being a Medical Examiner, he is an A-list crisis actor.

Sad day on RI.
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Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread

Postby PufPuf93 » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:06 pm

divideandconquer » Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:47 am wrote:I know that the fake scenario/staged terror event theory is not popular at RI, especially the "no one died" one. And I do not believe that all of these events are 100% faked, maybe not any of them, but I do believe fakery and pre-planning is evident and involved, to one degree or another, in almost all of the mass shootings over the last few years... the ones that are heavily covered by the media, anyway.

It's clear to me that they have no problem lying to the public and it's also clear to me that they have no regard for human life, however, they have proved themselves masters of illusion, at making things appear other than they actually are. And, despite their disregard for human life, there are many benefits to staging events.

Number one, It gives them a lot more control. makes things less messy. For every person that is shot, there are family, friends, neighbors, co-workers, employees, employers, medical personnel, first responders, etc.,., that will be asking questions, demanding answers, filing lawsuits, starting web pages, shouting from the rooftops, coming out of the woodwork for years to come, etc. When over 100 people are shot, that's thousands and thousands of people!! Not to mention, the real unpredictable consequences that result from the kind of violence that takes on a life of its own,

Take 9/11. Some of the victims families, firefighters, police, continue to be thorns in the side of government. Thanks to the Internet, it's harder to conceal these people who demand answers and sometimes even legislation, such as all of the first responders suffering from the toxic environment after 9/11. Ignoring these troublesome individuals or groups no longer works as well when people can easily search out the information for themselves. In other words, old school false flags do not work as well in the information age.

Moreover, we're lab rats and even a source of entertainment --I picture them laughing at the gullible masses...they'll believe anything!--for these demented people. So I think that these events always involve a bit of "scientific experimentation" or testing to see how far they can go. That's why these events continue to escalate and involve more absurd circumstances, such as we saw when the authorities did absolutely nothing to secure the residence of accused killer in the last mass shooting and apparently failed to lock down anything but witness testimony, or anyone or anything that causes problems for the official narrative etc., in this mass shooting. That's why we're allowed to see what appears to be blatant errors, like people with severed legs sitting up with not a care in the world, glimpses of people laughing on the sidelines, victims preparing like actors, lack of ambulances, lack of authentic hysteria, an indifference that is totally at odds with what just took place etc. It's one big test, experiment, and probably entertainment

There is a very definite pattern. The formula is always the same:

    Some evidence of foreknowledge

    Named perpetrators association with some part of the MIC

    Drills that took place in the very same area either at the time or before. In the case of Orlando, supposedly in March of this year.

    Lack of eyewitnesses and/or eyewitnesses with conflicting accounts.

    Perpetrator named and demonized within hours after shooting.

    Shoot to kill ratio off the charts by non-professional.

    Named perp dead or apparently drugged out of his or her mind.

    Some sort of manifesto or professed belief system that ties in perfectly with government agenda.

    Evidence conveniently destroyed.

    No obvious motive or conflicted motive from someone who doesn't appear to be that motivated...by anything. Such as we have here with supposedly a gay or bisexual man disgusted by gay men kissing and a so-called history that doesn't mesh with real life accounts of this person. Such as we saw with Sandy Hook: a scrawny boy who pulled off what only elite forces could

    Many of the victims appearing in MSM have acting backgrounds

    Lack of lawsuits from family of victims.

    Fundraising and federal payouts in the millions

    Unsolicited millions and/or houses (Sandy Hook) paid out to people associated with victims.

That's off the top of my head, so I'm sure I'm failing to include everything.

And, once again, I find the new law that prohibits searching social security death index for three years highly suspicious. After all, that would provide evidence of death (unless they add fake people...I don't know). After three years, who's going to remember to search when there is a mass shootings are as American as apple pie.

Yes, I know, I'm insane, an idiot or some sort of sleazy troll. :hrumph


D&C

I just posted the following in the other thread before catching up and reading your post in this thread, I sort of made a scenario that matches much of your pro forma in this post.
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Here is a scenario where the "hidden hand" is a covert operation from beginning to end by the "powers that be".

The "powers that be" want a domestic radical Islamists attack, want to have more gun control, want to have more police state powers, and want to create more sympathy and acceptance and condemnation simultaneously of GLBT and Latins.

The FBI and MIC "captured" media plus pundits and politicians are the operators and indirect operators respectively.

The FBI interviews possible Islamic domestic jihadists and decides on Omar Mateen as most useful. Maybe someone at Wackenhut even gets a finder's fee.

Omar Mateen refuses to cooperate and knows nothing about a planned terrorist event but the FBI and other operators construct the event around the circumstances of Omar Mateen's life (his family, personal issues, where he hangs out, etc.) who the FBI has subjected to the first degree of interrogation.

Omar Mateen suddenly disappears but not to Pulse but to the deep blue sea or maybe is killed in Pulse but was not the shooter.

Actual operatives do the atrocity - "professional" - and most clean up happens in the three hours of supposed siege. There is only text with his wife Noor, because Omar is not who is actually texting her.

The "body" of Omar is just another nameless patsy (for Mac and why no good description) or actually Omar.

The media and authorities and politicians do their propaganda, most not knowing nor inclined to vary from the desired narrative.

Those with first hand knowledge of Omar Mateen are shocked but know nothing more of substance than Omar is gone and the presumed shooter; mostly they worry about their own asses.
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Re: Hey! How about Orlando Now? (shootings)

Postby Elihu » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:18 pm

Elihu » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:53 am wrote:
MacCruiskeen wrote:Jesus christ, Elihu. It only just took place.

What has happened to people's attention spans? And when did people stop expecting investigations, due process, respect for the burden of proof, close questioning of eyewitnesses and police chiefs, trials, legality, all that old-school stuff? When did it all become just one huge spectacle?

People are consuming these mass murders like movies now: as entertainment. Or like popcorn. "When's the next show? Any good?"

Meanwhile, from the memory hole: 1) The Feds are still grilling his wife. 2) No eyewitness has yet identified the killer(s). 3) It is far from ruled out that many if not most of the victims were killed by police bullets.


I don't know exactly, it was subtle and happened over time. Now we get bought off with "Boston strong" and stuff like that, more feel good tv. The cops investigate themselves= no justice. They already have our money what could be done anyway? You'd better believe they will prosecute dissention. Easier bad guy targets and the wars go on.


wanted to revisit this. thinking back, for me, it was jose padilla. remember that guy? when it was all so fresh and new? he was in custody and a us citizen. i was like well if they've got something on him put him on trial. and then the bu!!shit started flyin and part of me kinda died when I realized that the tv was gonna be running things from here on out. law meant jack S then and still does today. something so tiny yet so obvious meant the barn doors of abuse were swingin wide, a coup in other words and not darn thing anybody could do about it. like "hung" cheyney said, "a nation of men (with iron wills), not of laws". i'm surprised the fact did not come to light sooner.

this whole tv show, believe what you want, but spare the humanity, especially when it supports more legislation and suspicion of your neighbors. we all sleep pretty peacefully while the legions of rome plunder the world daily.

and seriously, why not wonder about the next op? what fools we are. real cops with real guns fighting "terrrorism"? they might as well shoot into the air to stop bad weather. no, those files are on us. the war is against us. it's the lobotomy and happiness or the machine. this can't end any other way. imo.
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Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread

Postby chump » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:27 pm

brekin » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:05 pm wrote:
chump » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:29 am wrote:

This video first shows a discrepancy between some newsreel shots of a witness who claims, “they came, got me, brought me straight out to a stretcher and then out to an ambulance.” But, the video shows him being carried by two guys back toward the bar in order to stage a shot for the mainsteam news.

The video also points that out the Medical Examiner, “Dr Joshua Stephany, was named to that position on the previous Tuesday (only 5 days before the shooting), has quite a few screen credits to his name, including six appearances on on a “documentary/TV series… Dr G - Medical Examiner”. In fact, part of the the report on CNN features a clip from that series, courtesy Atlas Media, showing the doctor at work...

More about the interim ME - who plays on TV:
https://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2016/06/ ... p-fiction/

The monotony of theatre


Investigation into the PULSE FALSE FLAG has moved forward with the revelation of G4S and their connection to CRISISCAST.ORG. As for the IMDb scrubbing of the thespian known as Omar Mateen and his ties to the Obamachange agenda, we can also take note of the Carver Constant.
On December 14, Wayne H. Carver directed actors and cars as a firefighter. The next day, he was the medical examiner for the postmortem.

Wayne Carver, M.E., Fireman, Traffic Cop

As we saw in Sandy Hook, the bizarre dramatics and comedy of H. Wayne Carver, ME and the rest of the troupe were something to behold. The odd couple actor could not have been any better depicted, had Quincy, MD shown up behind the podium. Even conspirator, Piers Morgan was unimpressed with his performance. (see tweets)

So who is Joshua D. Stephany, MD?
... (continued at link above)


So because a guy is carried towards the direction of the Pulse club, no matter how briefly, and disregarding this is a crime and emergency scene with probably lots of barriers and obstacles, he is a crisis actor and his wounds fake. And because the Medical Examiner was on a documentary series about being a Medical Examiner, he is an A-list crisis actor.

Sad day on RI.


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Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread

Postby mentalgongfu2 » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:52 pm

Chump, what exactly do you think that video shows? Because aside from the commentary, I don't see shit, and certainly not anything that could remotely be described as evidence.
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Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread

Postby Burnt Hill » Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:09 pm

Does it not show someone stretching out a cramp after carrying a heavy load?
Honestly if its suggested as anything else we may need moderation.
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Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread

Postby brekin » Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:12 pm

chump » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:27 pm wrote:
brekin » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:05 pm wrote:
chump » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:29 am wrote:

This video first shows a discrepancy between some newsreel shots of a witness who claims, “they came, got me, brought me straight out to a stretcher and then out to an ambulance.” But, the video shows him being carried by two guys back toward the bar in order to stage a shot for the mainsteam news.

The video also points that out the Medical Examiner, “Dr Joshua Stephany, was named to that position on the previous Tuesday (only 5 days before the shooting), has quite a few screen credits to his name, including six appearances on on a “documentary/TV series… Dr G - Medical Examiner”. In fact, part of the the report on CNN features a clip from that series, courtesy Atlas Media, showing the doctor at work...

More about the interim ME - who plays on TV:
https://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2016/06/ ... p-fiction/

The monotony of theatre


Investigation into the PULSE FALSE FLAG has moved forward with the revelation of G4S and their connection to CRISISCAST.ORG. As for the IMDb scrubbing of the thespian known as Omar Mateen and his ties to the Obamachange agenda, we can also take note of the Carver Constant.
On December 14, Wayne H. Carver directed actors and cars as a firefighter. The next day, he was the medical examiner for the postmortem.

Wayne Carver, M.E., Fireman, Traffic Cop

As we saw in Sandy Hook, the bizarre dramatics and comedy of H. Wayne Carver, ME and the rest of the troupe were something to behold. The odd couple actor could not have been any better depicted, had Quincy, MD shown up behind the podium. Even conspirator, Piers Morgan was unimpressed with his performance. (see tweets)

So who is Joshua D. Stephany, MD?
... (continued at link above)


So because a guy is carried towards the direction of the Pulse club, no matter how briefly, and disregarding this is a crime and emergency scene with probably lots of barriers and obstacles, he is a crisis actor and his wounds fake. And because the Medical Examiner was on a documentary series about being a Medical Examiner, he is an A-list crisis actor.

Sad day on RI.


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Really sad, sad day on RI. It is obvious to anyone that the paramedic has got some type of cramp/kink that he is stretching, which would make sense from carrying someone.

That you would believe or encourage such posting I can only surmise that logically you will be swayed/bolstered by the most trifling of "evidence", being:

Someone with a snarky authoritarian sounding British (Kiwi?) accent cruelly conspira-fantising repeatedly over 3 seconds of a clip that isn't "dancing" by any generous assessment of what the practice is.

Also, you have to have very little empathy for the people who were the actual victims to be posting such rubbish.

The narrator is actually laughing at and smearing a mass shooting victim and the person helping him. Think about that. Since you are so obviously logically and empathically impaired, I suggest you stop posting such dreck and go and do some real research in these two fields: Reasoning & Empathy.

Then reapply to be a member of R.I.

As of right now you are banned.
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Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread

Postby Agent Orange Cooper » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:38 pm

Paramedic! Hah... no, that's just a dude wearing a Pulse nightclub branded t-shirt.

Come to think of it I haven't seen any footage of any actual paramedics (or ambulances) anywhere near the scene. Could just be a coincidence though.
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Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread

Postby 82_28 » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:56 pm

Speaking of the video. Does that sign really say "Orlando's Only Locally Owned Radio Shack"? I thought they were completely kaput.
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Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread

Postby Burnt Hill » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:01 pm

Agent Orange Cooper » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:38 pm wrote:Paramedic! Hah... no, that's just a dude wearing a Pulse nightclub branded t-shirt.

Come to think of it I haven't seen any footage of any actual paramedics (or ambulances) anywhere near the scene. Could just be a coincidence though.


And we still haven't seen the shooters pants.
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Postby 82_28 » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:20 pm

Not to go full on Hugh here, but I find it sorta interesting and coincidental because Radio Shack made me flash on this scene. Coincidental.



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