What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby American Dream » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:40 pm

Are Oil Pipeline Contractors Behind the Phony #PizzaGate Rumors?

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Along with the 911 Tr00thers, Birthers, those who are obsessed with Bilderbergers, there is a new sleazy conspiracy rumor in town– and it is aimed at progressive media outlets, a gay-owned small business in DC and most of all anyone who has anything to do with the Clintons.

It is such a dull-witted and convoluted conspiracy that reaches so far beyond reason that even trying to explain it is going to give us a headache, so here is the New York Times article that does a pretty good job of breaking it down. According to the article, the rumor came out of a place everyone automatically associates with rationality and critical thinking: 4Chan. Yes, that’s right, 4CHAN. This is where the base of the rumor is from.

If you are a believer of this pizzagate nonsense, are you feeling stupid yet? No? Of course not, by this point your central nervous system has become so numbed it’s impervious to any external stimulus. Congratulations, you’re now operating on the same level as a end-stage alcoholic.

Just to skim across the pond scum of this idiocy, let’s take a look at who is pushing the rumor around using YouTube as a platform.


https://overthrowdotcom.com/2016/11/29/ ... te-rumors/
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby norton ash » Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:06 pm

Yeezus, yet another angle. (How many angles can dance on my pin of a head...)
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby guruilla » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:41 pm

Nordic wrote:Yeah Gururilla please stick around. Just put Jerky on ignore (like I did) and please continue.

This thing is EXTTEMELY interesting and we need all the help we can get.

Well, since I've been rechristened by that post, maybe I should change my nick to grrrilla & come back with a No More Mr Nice Guy T-shirt?

I think I ought to devote more time to voap where actual research is happening, but I'll check in now & then with any new finds. How's that?

Like this, via Coleman: rather telling?

But [Arthur C.] Clarke’s fading health does not stop him enjoying his favourite pastime – playing table tennis with schoolboys at a notorious pick-up haunt for perverts called the Otters Aquatic Club. Crumbling and in need of a coat of paint, the Otters is a meeting point for Westerners who lust after young boys.

Those who hang around its games room, pool and tennis courts are perfect prey and are easily persuaded to sell themselves for 1,000 rupees (pounds 10) – a small fortune to them.
Clarke goes there regularly in the afternoon, hobbling on a walking stick, to challenge boys – some as young as 12 – to a game of ping pong.
Asked what his definition for paedophilia was Clarke said:

“There are two different definitions, anyone who interferes with young boys who are not old enough to know their own minds and that’s my definition. It varies for me.”
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby guruilla » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:55 pm

Uh, and this:



Normal speed:



Full House is an American coming of age sitcom created by Jeff Franklin for ABC. The show chronicles a widowed father, Danny Tanner, who enlists his brother-in-law and best friend to help raise his three daughters. It aired from September 22, 1987, to May 23, 1995, broadcasting eight seasons and 192 episodes.


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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby norton ash » Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:07 pm

^^^ Uh, and what? Some slowed-down children's television about pizza, with added links to two crap Hollywood click-bait sites? Wow, you've made me a believer.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby divideandconquer » Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:44 pm

guruilla » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:55 pm wrote:Uh, and this:



Normal speed:



Secret twilight language of the occult that's not so secret anymore. I think they hit almost every code word from the Podesta emails...very disturbing.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby OP ED » Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:19 am

Nordic » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:04 pm wrote:Well here's one actual missing child to consider.




Also who's keeping track of the Haitian children?


Gah. I keep going on about this is various places but even the left gatekeepers, who are usually my allies in these threads are ignoring Silsby and her Republican (Baptist) charity friends, who would be more statistically likely to appear in a trafficking thread.

A.. Caught smuggling COMPLETELY undocumented children out of Haiti for the Clinton Foundation.

B.. Associated with convicted pedophiles, I.e. her "contact" and legal counsel.

C. Recommended to CF through the good wife of Weinergate to help expand the child aid program whose startup cash was provided by another convicted pedophile.

(According, all of this, to wikileaks and court documents)

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OP ED also, having had history in university, generally assumes all rich connectedness people have charitable organizations that are actually CIA fronts. This may be an assumption but it can easily be established as a trend, and it makes all the math here much simpler.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby mentalgongfu2 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:48 am

At least the Haiti/Clinton Foundation leg of this narrative has some roots in factual reality from which to build a conclusion.

Secret twilight language of the occult that's not so secret anymore. I think they hit almost every code word from the Podesta emails...very disturbing.


This is your interpretation of a children's song about pizza from the mid 1990s performed by the stars of Full House?

Okay, I'm done. This shit is off the rails.

Good luck in your "investigation."

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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby Nordic » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:05 am

Sorry Guruilla, my post was riddled with typos! Typing too much on the damn iPhone these days.

For me this situation is one with a built-in wheat/chaff situation. You have to be willing to sort through the chaff.

After all there is a lot of chaff deliberately thrown into the mix.

I keep thinking of the Obama hotdog/pizza party thing at the White House and the enthusiastic and enigmatic response to the "waitresses". That's "waitresses" in quotes. What were they? Who were they? Why did Obama spend $65k allegedly shipping junk food to the WH for a party with "waitresses"?
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:23 am

Nordic » Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:05 am wrote:I keep thinking of the Obama hotdog/pizza party thing at the White House and the enthusiastic and enigmatic response to the "waitresses". That's "waitresses" in quotes. What were they? Who were they? Why did Obama spend $65k allegedly shipping junk food to the WH for a party with "waitresses"?


That was a very fucking weird detail, Amen.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby OP ED » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:18 am

Some of you are silly. Lovely but silly. Now I only address my fellow gatekeepers

Silsby?

No comment?

Jerky? Joe, seriously?

I mean I love you guys, but psyop has to be bult on real Foundation before it can achieve its desired effect. That's just history.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby guruilla » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:47 am

Wombaticus Rex » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:23 am wrote:
Nordic » Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:05 am wrote:I keep thinking of the Obama hotdog/pizza party thing at the White House and the enthusiastic and enigmatic response to the "waitresses". That's "waitresses" in quotes. What were they? Who were they? Why did Obama spend $65k allegedly shipping junk food to the WH for a party with "waitresses"?


That was a very fucking weird detail, Amen.

Ref:

RE: Get ready for "Chicago Hot Dog Friday"
Released on 2012-10-19 08:00 GMT

Email-ID 1223066
Date 2009-05-14 21:50:25
From
To burton@stratfor.com, kuykendall@stratfor.com, copeland@stratfor.com, oconnor@stratfor.com
RE: Get ready for "Chicago Hot Dog Friday"


If we get the same "waitresses," I'm all for it!!!


Aaric S. Eisenstein

STRATFOR

SVP Publishing

700 Lavaca St., Suite 900

Austin, TX 78701

512-744-4308

512-744-4334 fax



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From: Fred Burton [mailto:burton@stratfor.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:39 PM
To: 'Don Kuykendall'
Cc: 'Aaric Eisenstein'; 'Darryl O'Connor'; 'Copeland Susan'
Subject: RE: Get ready for "Chicago Hot Dog Friday"
I think Obama spent about $65,000 of the tax-payers money flying in
pizza/dogs from Chicago for a private party at the White House not long
ago, assume we are using the same channels?

----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Don Kuykendall [mailto:kuykendall@stratfor.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:59 PM
To: 'stratforaustin'
Subject: Get ready for "Chicago Hot Dog Friday"
To celebrate all you hot dogs out there. Aaric, you can participate as
well!

Don R. Kuykendall
President
STRATFOR
512.744.4314 phone
512.744.4334 fax
kuykendall@stratfor.com

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/12/1 ... iday-.html


Maybe relevant:

The majority of trafficking
victims possessed valid passports and employment contracts for work
as waitresses and dancers.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/10PRISTINA77_a.html


While some children working as domestics are well treated and attend school, others are neglected, exploited and physically or sexually abused. [...] the recruitment of children in Antananarivo under false pretenses for "legitimate" employment in coastal cities as waitresses and domestic servants.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08AN ... 164_a.html
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby Jerky » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:49 am

Op Ed, do you know what a Gish Gallop is?

Here's Rational Wiki's definition:

The Gish Gallop (also known as proof by verbosity[1] or the Trump tirade[2]) is the fallacious debating tactic of simply drowning your opponent in a torrent of small, interlocking arguments intended to prevent your opponent from being able to rebut your conclusions in real time. The Gish Gallop is thus essentially a belt-fed cousin of the on the spot fallacy, as it's unreasonable for anyone to have an answer immediately available to every single argument presented in the gallop. It is named after creationist Duane Gish.

Although it takes a trivial amount of effort on the galloper's part to make each individual point before skipping on to the next (especially if they cite from a pre-concocted list of gallop arguments), a refutation of the same gallop may likely take much longer and require significantly more effort (per the basic principle that it's always easier to make a mess than to clean it back up again).

The tedium inherent in untangling a gish gallop typically allows for very little "creative license" or vivid rhetoric (in deliberate contrast to the exciting point-dashing central to the galloping), which in turn risks boring the audience or readers, further loosening the refuter's grip on the crowd.

This is especially true in that the galloper need only win a single one out of all his component arguments in order to be able to cast doubt on the entire refutation attempt. For this reason, the refuter must achieve a 100% success ratio (with all the yawn-inducing elaboration that goes with such precision). Thus, Gish galloping is frequently employed (with particularly devastating results) in timed debates. The same is true for any time- or character-limited debate medium, including Twitter and newspaper editorials.

Examples of Gish gallops are commonly found online, in crank "list" articles that claim to show "[X] hundred reasons for (or against) [Y]". At the highest levels of verbosity, with dozens upon dozens or even hundreds of minor arguments interlocking, each individual "reason" is — upon closer inspection — likely to consist of a few sentences at best.

Gish gallops are almost always performed with numerous other logical fallacies baked in. The myriad of component arguments constituting the gallop may typically intersperse a few perfectly uncontroversial claims — the basic validity of which are intended to lend undue credence to the gallop at large — with a devious hodgepodge of half-truths, outright lies, red herrings and straw men — which, if not rebutted as the fallacies they are, pile up into egregious problems for the refuter.

There may also be escape hatches or "gotcha" arguments present in the gallop, which are — like the Gish gallop itself — specifically designed to be brief to pose, yet take a long time to unravel and refute.

***

This thread (and all Pizzagate threads) are a prime example of Gish Gallop. I don't think I have to engage in the tedious exercise of pulling out examples from the thread to prove this, as the thread itself serves as Exhibit A. It is damning, and I hope that those who have engaged in this practice (those who have yet to put me on IGNORE anyway) will endeavor to avoid a repeat performance of this annoying and unproductive, obstructionist, even destructive-to-actual-investigation True Believer tactic.

As for Silsby, I have yet to look into it, therefore I have no opinion yet. I have suspicions that a great many of the claims made against her are out of context BS (going by the fact that that is pretty much what 100 percent of PizzaGate "evidence" has proven to be after even the barest modicum of actual investigation), but unlike the True Believers here, I don't make up my mind about something before I've looked deeper into it and weighed the evidence using a variety of factors, including the past reliability of those making the claims, the quality of the primary materials used by those making the claims, etc, etc, etc...

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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby OP ED » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:10 am

Silsby and related concoctions significantly predated "pizzagate" but a number of newer and semirelated emails show how interlinked with Clinton Charities these persons are. Silsby had a wiki page last year, I mean. I mean we would have taken that part more seriously last year.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby OP ED » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:14 am

(Physical location of some of these places is on the same block as "suspect" pizza places and/or etc, which is highly coincidental for what looks like SOP for a CIA front)
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