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Postby stefano » Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:26 pm

vanlose kid wrote:anarchy? more of it please.
Ha, it certainly is a beautiful thing. The world's eyes are on Tahrir and they're proving that another world is possible.

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby vanlose kid » Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:30 pm

a couple of weeks ago, during the flooding in Queensland, Joe was talking about how people joined forces out of the blue to help others and organize aid in all forms with no central/top-down organization.

in another thread i was presenting views of left-libertarianism and its ideas concerning community structure and organization.

in yet another thread, a poster whose handle escapes me just now, asked for resources on horizontal management.

in, i think, yet another thread (and earlier in this one) i spoke about the "Leviathan" (fascist) idea of government. the philosophical con based on the a priori premise that in the state of nature "all fight against all" and this necessitates the establishment of a state and the concentration of power in the hands of a few.

what the examples above, but even more importantly, what the people on Tahrir square have shown is that the "Leviathan" conception is, was and always will be a fallacy, a con, the BIG BIG LIE. – please take careful note of this.

all power to the people.

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The different shades of Tahrir
Even after two weeks, central Cairo's Tahrir Square remains the heartbeat of the pro-democracy movement.
Al Jazeera online producer Last Modified: 08 Feb 2011 13:11 GMT

In the two weeks that have passed since Egyptians began street protests aimed at overturning president Hosni Mubarak's 30-year rule, central Cairo's Tahrir Square has become the movement’s beating heart and most effective symbol.

As long as protesters occupy the most prominent public space in Cairo – indeed in the whole country – they cannot be ignored by the international media or their own government, despite efforts by the army to contain the demonstrations and return life to normal.

Such an occupation, by hundreds of thousands of people from all walks of life, requires supplies and a degree of organisation.

In the square, both have been achieved on an impressively ad-hoc basis.
Leaders have emerged and committees have been formed, but the roughly 55,000 square metre "Republic of Tahrir Square" – as some inside are calling it – still operates on a mostly informal system of economy and defence.

On the perimetre of the square, teams of men – most ranging in age from early 20s to mid-40s – guard barricades made of debris and form checkpoints to ensure identification of guards and give thorough pat-downs to make sure no one brings in weapons.

Some wear laminated badges bearing the Egyptian flag, others identify their job – "Security" – with a piece of tape. Such checkpoints sprang up from the beginning of the occupation and now co-ordinate with army troops who mostly stand on the side and observe proceedings.

Past the checkpoints, a protester sometimes waits to provide visiting journalists with the number of a media co-ordinator or an international organisation to call if they have any complaints about treatment at the hands of the government or government-backed "baltageya" – thugs.

Informal economy

Farther inside, the square's informal economy becomes immediately apparent.

Next to a man holding a board festooned with anti-Mubarak cartoons – the "Republic of Tahrir Square Information Ministry" – vendors hawk armloads of Egyptian flags (5 pounds/$0.85).

Along the curb nearby, enterprising businessmen have arranged tables and carts to sell pre-made cups of hot tea (1 pound/$0.17) and containers of koshari (3-5 pounds/$0.51-0.85), the ever-present Egyptian lentil and noodle dish.

Some have even begun striding around the square, peeking into tents to offer trays of tea, as they would in one of Cairo’s hole-in-the-wall coffee and shisha shops.

Around the centre of the square – a circular patch of tent-covered ground that once was grass but now is hardened dirt and swampy mud – men park their wagoncarts of packaged sweets (0.5 – 1 pound/$0.08 - $0.17).

Here, we are discouraged from filming by a tired-looking protester whose head is wrapped in a black-and-white checkered keffiyeh.

He apologises profusely but tells us he does not want the rest of the world to think that the square is some kind of festival. Earlier on Monday, we are told, Ahmed Shafiq, the prime minister, compared Tahrir Square to London’s famous and bucolic Hyde Park; this is no Hyde Park, the man says.

He's right, of course. And that is one of the great dichotomies of the square.

Celebration and funeral

Fiery socialist men in their twenties and conservative older women in hijab crack jokes, gather to sing patriotic songs, and call ebulliently for the downfall of Mubarak, but all around hang huge banners depicting in gory detail the portraits of the "martyrs," those protesters who have died over the past two weeks.

Tahrir Square is a celebration and a funeral.

The man tells us there is no committee that organises the supply of Tahrir; people simply take initiative. Friends pool money, and those with funds make purchases for the poor.

Impressively, prices do not seem to have inflated inside the square. After we say goodbye to the man in the keffiyeh, we buy a piece of bread (1 pound/$0.17) and a packet of tissues (0.75 pounds/$0.13).

Many of the volunteers in the square simply offer food for free.

As we sit on unfolded newspapers in the centre of the square speaking with Nasser Abdel Hamid, a member of the new youth negotiating committee, we are handed long bread with La vache qui rit cheese and pieces of grainy, "baladi" bread packed with sweet, peanut butter-style spread.

We are approached by a young man who asks if he can interrupt briefly.

Seif, a student at the Bahareyya Academy university, offers to help us find blankets, food and medicine if we plan on spending the night.

He says he is not a member of a committee, just a volunteer. He and his friends pooled $847 to buy medicine for protesters in the square.

Though Seif was beaten during the violence on Wednesday, he has returned, but he says people are having trouble bringing through supplies.

Firmly entrenched

Pro-Mubarak loyalists have been known to intimidate those arriving with supplies and to confiscate them on the roads leading to the square, and the army has occasionally shut down the flow of food and medicine.

But the protesters are firmly entrenched. The scattered tents and blankets that dotted the square a week ago have morphed into a semi-permanent encampment.

Protesters have driven wooden and metal stakes into the ground to anchor huge tarps and makeshift shelters that block out the chilly winter wind and bring to mind the expansive desert abodes of Egypt’s Bedouin population.

They have gutted lampposts and other electrical outlets to charge their mobile phones and power laptops that they use to project movies onto hanging cotton screens or read news on the Internet with still-operational wi-fi connections pirated from nearby buildings.

On a stage overlooking the central part of the square, next to a stuffed effigy lynched from a lamppost, protesters have built a stage complete with a fully functional, concert-level sound system.

On Monday night, a man strummed an acoustic guitar and sang protest songs to a crowd of hundreds.
A protester with an Egyptian flag wrapped around his waist tells us that that the people in the square have formed a new "social contract".

As we walked toward an exit with Abdel Hamid, the youth negotiator, he turned Shafiq's statement on its head.

"This is better than Hyde Park," he said.

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/sp ... 99676.html

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby 82_28 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:57 pm

vanlose kid wrote:a couple of weeks ago, during the flooding in Queensland, Joe was talking about how people joined forces out of the blue to help others and organize aid in all forms with no central/top-down organization.

in another thread i was presenting views of left-libertarianism and its ideas concerning community structure and organization.

in yet another thread, a poster whose handle escapes me just now, asked for resources on horizontal management.

in, i think, yet another thread (and earlier in this one) i spoke about the "Leviathan" (fascist) idea of government. the philosophical con based on the a priori premise that in the state of nature "all fight against all" and this necessitates the establishment of a state and the concentration of power in the hands of a few.

what the examples above, but even more importantly, what the people on Tahrir square have shown is that the "Leviathan" conception is, was and always will be a fallacy, a con, the BIG BIG LIE. – please take careful note of this.

all power to the people.


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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby vanlose kid » Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:01 pm

Activist's tears may be game changer in Egypt

By Marwa Awad and Andrew Hammond
CAIRO | Tue Feb 8, 2011 12:07pm EST

(Reuters) - One man's tears provided a new impetus on Tuesday to protesters in Egypt seeking to keep up momentum in their campaign, now in its third week, to topple President Hosni Mubarak.

Wael Ghonim, a Google executive detained and blindfolded by state security for 12 days, broke down in a television interview on Monday after his release saying a system that arrested people for speaking out must be torn down.

"Ghonim's tears have moved millions and turned around the views of those who supported (Mubarak) staying," website Masrawy.com wrote two hours after Ghonim's TV appearance. In that short span, 70,000 people had signed up to Facebook pages supporting him.

Egypt's turbulent protests have entered their third week. Demonstrators have been camping out in Tahrir Square for days to press their demand that Mubarak, a U.S. ally who has ruled for 30 years, quit now.

On Tuesday, Ghonim joined them for another mass protest that drew in well over 100,000 people.

"You are the heroes. I am not a hero, you are the heroes," he told the cheering crowd.

"My condolences to the fathers and mothers who lost sons and daughters who died for their dream. These are the real heroes who gave up their lives for their country," he told Reuters afterwards. "I saw young people dying and now the president has a responsibility to see what the people demand," he said, adding these demands include Mubarak stepping down.

SEIZED OFF THE STREETS

Google's head of marketing in the Middle East, Ghonim was seized off the streets by plainclothes men two days after the protests began on January 25 -- protests he had promoted by setting up a special Facebook page.

Neither Google nor his family had any clue where he was and feared for his life. In detention he was not informed of events outside and interrogated over what the authorities believed were foreign powers behind the Facebook campaign and January 25 protest.

When the interviewer told Ghonim live on TV about some of the 300 people who died in the unrest while he was incarcerated, he cried.

"We didn't do anything wrong. We did what our consciences dictated to us," he said in the interview, overcome with remorse for his role in mobilizing people through the Internet.

Within minutes of the interview's conclusion, thousands had joined new pages on social networking sites.

"I authorize Wael Ghonim to speak in the name of Egypt's revolutionaries" -- the main support page -- had gathered more than 120,000 "likes" within 12 hours.

"I knew about 200 people who supported Mubarak and wanted the revolution to end. But after they saw Wael Ghonim and the lies of Egyptian media they will go to Tahrir," Mida Acura wrote on one of the Facebook pages.

State TV has portrayed the protesters who have closed off Tahrir, a pivotal urban space in central Cairo, as irresponsible radicals who are destroying the economy and have been manipulated by unspecified foreigners.

The government has been piling on pressure for the protesters to leave. It says they are holding up an economic recovery after damage caused by the uprising. Some Cairenes are annoyed by the inconvenience of the 24-hour sit-in.

Mubarak supporters staged violent attacks on them last week, leaving 11 dead and over 1,000 wounded. An army commander asked them to quit the square to "save Egypt".

GHONIM AS EGYPT'S BOUAZIZI

"Wael Ghonim is the Bouazizi of the Egyptians," wrote journalist Mohamed al-Jarhi, referring to the Tunisian Mohamed Bouazizi who helped launch Tunisia's own uprising last month by setting himself on fire in protest at poverty and corruption.

Activists used Facebook, Twitter and other social media to spread word of protests after Tunisia's ruler Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali fled on January 14. It was so effective that Egypt's government shut down the Internet for days during the uprising.

In the outpouring of Internet activity early on Tuesday, users posted the pictures of many of those who died and many who had been prepared to give the 82-year-old leader a chance said now they wanted to push on until Mubarak caves in.

Activists say Ghonim's tears contrast with the lack of remorse that protesters perceive from Mubarak. He made no mention of the deaths in a speech to the nation last week.

"Something big is happening. No one expected today to be that huge," Zainab Mohamed, a well-known Egyptian blogger who uses the name Zeinobia, told Reuters.

"Hundreds of young people are killed all over the country and Mubarak didn't have the courtesy to say we're sorry or express his sorrow to the families. Wael's tears were much more sincere."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/ ... NS20110208

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby vanlose kid » Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:07 pm

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby barracuda » Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:00 pm

Suez Canal workers go on strike

Suez Canal Company workers from the cities of Suez, Port Said, and Ismailia began an open-ended sit in today. Disruptions to shipping movements, as well as disasterous econmic losses, are expected if the strike continues. Over 6000 protesters have agreed that they will not go home today once their shift is over and will continue their sit-in in front of the company's headquarters until their demands are met. They are protesting against poor wages and deteriorating health and working conditions.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:49 pm

barracuda wrote:Suez Canal workers go on strike

Suez Canal Company workers from the cities of Suez, Port Said, and Ismailia began an open-ended sit in today. Disruptions to shipping movements, as well as disasterous econmic losses, are expected if the strike continues. Over 6000 protesters have agreed that they will not go home today once their shift is over and will continue their sit-in in front of the company's headquarters until their demands are met. They are protesting against poor wages and deteriorating health and working conditions.


I hope this is the beginning of the end. I was thinking today, what remains to knock over the regime is for state workers to go on strike. The canal workers have a big political history in Egypt.

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Plutonia » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:05 pm

You know, one of the reason's for Mubarak's resistance to leaving Egypt may be that new Swiss law that allows emancipated countries to repatriate stolen fortunes. In theory it's a great idea but in practice it may backfire against oppressed populations, provoking ass-holes like Mubarak and his cronies to fight harder to maintain their power.

The law is being put to the test right now:

Baby Doc first target of Swiss bank change

* Roger Boyes
* From: The Times
* February 04, 2011 12:00AM

A NEW Swiss law makes it easier for the Alpine republic to freeze fortunes squirrelled away by foreign potentates or dictators.

The law also makes it easier to transfer back home any dubiously acquired gold or cash.

The first to be a target of the law, which came into force on Tuesday, is the former leader of Haiti, Jean-Claude "Baby Doc" Duvalier, who is facing charges of corruption and crimes against humanity in his native country.

"The Swiss government, which has worked to find a solution for the restitution of the Duvalier money to the Haitian people, has used the powers conferred by the restitution law to take this case to court," said a government statement.

Although the Duvalier family is alleged to have embezzled up to E500 million, the contested sum in Swiss accounts is said to be only E4.2m ($5.7m).

The funds have been frozen since 1986.

Thanks to Swiss banking secrecy, the country's banks have for decades been the first port of call for dictators wanting to hide their retirement funds.


Ferdinand Marcos of The Philippines, Charles Taylor of Liberia and Mobutu Sese Seko of Congo are only a few of the autocrats who have put their trust in Switzerland's banking system.

The swanky shops in Zurich and Geneva have long benefited from the extravagant shopping habits of WoKs, Wives of Kleptocrats.

The Swiss have, however, been anxious to clean up their image, tarnished by revelations that they were secret bankers for the Nazis, and have been cracking down on dubious accounts even before the new law.

Last week, Swiss authorities acted against Tunisia's newly ousted president, Zine El Abedine Ben Ali, whose entourage is reported to have removed 1.5 tonnes of gold bars from the country's vaults, and the leader of the Ivory Coast, Laurent Gbagbo, who is hanging on to power despite having lost an election in November.

Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey ordered a block on all their funds in Switzerland, declaring that the country "should not become a shelter for illegally acquired assets".

Until now, dictators have had considerable wriggle room and have become skilled at masking transfers.

The Ben Ali fortune is said to be spread around the family. Tracking the suspect accounts, establishing "justified suspicion" and then ordering a freeze is not simple, even under the new law.

The law does give Swiss investigators more teeth.

It has been dubbed "Lex Duvalier" as it was born out of the frustration of investigators who needed a formal request from Haiti before they could act against the deposed leader's funds.

The Haitian judiciary, though, was barely functioning and Duvalier's lawyers managed to delay any handover of cash. Only in 2008 did Haiti place an official request, but within months the Swiss Federal Court declared that the statute of limitations applied and there was no further legal means to freeze his cash.

Hence the new legislation.

It lets authorities freeze assets and return money even if the home country has not placed a formal request. Leaders who want to withdraw money will have to prove they acquired it legally and there will no longer be a statute of limitations on the return of illegally acquired money.

The Times


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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Plutonia » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:34 pm

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There¹s no doubt that Twitter and Facebook are accelerants to the cause
whether that cause is to get people on the street to challenge a dictator
and his armies, or to get Betty White on Saturday Night Live. The question
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby AlicetheKurious » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:47 pm

vanlose kid wrote:Activist's tears may be game changer in Egypt


I personally don't feel comfortable with Wael Ghoneim becoming the "face" of the Egyptian Revolution, still less its "leader". Not only is that very unfair, I think it's dangerous. The revolution's power is in the very fact that it has no particular face and no leader, simply millions of Egyptian citizens who are impossible to categorize as anything other than "Egyptians" and a list of very specific, non-negotiable demands that nobody can describe as anything but legitimate. This is why neither the regime nor foreign powers have any defense against this, and all their tactics and strategies have failed.

Furthermore, Ghoneim's interview did provoke a lot of empathy and indignation among people, but the second part of the show, in my opinion, was even more powerful, at least on an intellectual level. After Ghoneim left, a group of people who had spent days in Tahrir Square were interviewed. They included one of Egypt's most prominent heart surgeons, a famous media personality from state-owned television, a successful artist and a scriptwriter. Their testimonies were incredible, speaking out with brutal honesty about the experiences that had galvanized them into joining the revolution in Tahrir. I can't express how shocking it was to hear what they said, on Egyptian television (even on a so-called "independent" station). Even the usually extremely cautious hostess was shaken enough to admit that she had received direct orders from the Ministry of Information, to describe the hundreds of thousands of demonstrators on January 25th as comprising "tens of demonstrators".

Wael Ghoneim is part of this just as the 300 martyrs and the thousands wounded and all the Egyptians who have been tortured or deprived or killed or silenced or even just scared or made to feel helpless and hopeless during the past three decades under this regime. As I said before, the very fact that it has no specific face and no specific identity other than "Egyptian" is its greatest strength. I'd hate to see that incredible advantage being traded in exchange for the very dubious indulgence of having a living person to represent it (and inevitably subvert it, intentionally or not).

PS: Besides, Khaled Said, in my opinion, serves as a much more appropriate and potent symbol, this revolution's "Bouazizi". His story is so iconic: the bright, unemployed 28-year old Alexandrian activist obtained film of police officers splitting the proceeds of a drug deal among themselves inside a police station and uploaded it onto the internet. As a result, he was grabbed in an internet cafe and beaten to death before his horrified friends and other customers and bystanders by two plainclothes police thugs.

The picture of his mutilated face was then itself uploaded onto the internet and became a rallying cry for young people all over Egypt and even abroad. It galvanized thousands of youths to demand accountability for his killers through demonstrations that lasted weeks and forced the regime to arrest the two thugs, but then the regime began a sickening campaign of defamation and lies that the young people exposed, again online, item by item, with documented proof. The official coroner's report claimed that his body did not show any signs of abuse, and that he died of asphyxiation after trying to swallow a large lump of hashish in an attempt to hide it from police. His killers were eventually set free. Khaled Said's story is a microcosm of so much that is wrong with this regime.

Wael Ghoneim is credited with starting the Facebook page "We Are All Khaled Said" which garnered around 70,000 members and served as a platform for activists that may very well have been one of the main incubators for this revolution. For this, he deserves a great deal of praise. But as he himself has pointed out, the heroes of this revolution are the millions who comprise it.

PPS: Very interesting, Plutonia, about this new Swiss law.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Plutonia » Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:00 pm

AlicetheKurious wrote:PPS: Very interesting, Plutonia, about this new Swiss law.
Yeah, organize an application to the Swiss, Alice! Get that money back!

Financial docs here may help: http://misrdigital.blogspirit.com/archi ... in-uk.html

Also, I'm not sure but Firefox's Key-scrambler add-on may protect you from internet surveillance.
Anonymizers too:

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/securi ... reats/4648
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http://www.freeproxy.ru/en/free_proxy/cgi-proxy.htm


I heard Mubarak is heading to Germany for "medical" reasons:

Hosni Mubarak to leave Egypt for health check in Germany: report (UPDATES)
Hosni Mubarak may travel to Germany as a patient as part of a graceful exit strategy, Der Spiegel reports; Mubarak's personal wealth could be $70 billion, owing largely to corruption.

Hosni Mubarak is to leave Egypt for medical treatment in Germany, at which time he'll give up the Egyptian presidency, according to Der Spiegel.

The report suggests the plan — organized by the U.S. government and elements within the Egyptian regime as a way to end the political chaos in Egypt — is for Mubarak to head to a clinic near Baden-Baden in Germany...


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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby DoYouEverWonder » Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:02 pm

Don't worry Alice. The M$M is still trying to control the message, but they're losing badly.

BTW: Hillary is calling all the top diplomats in the world back to the US for a meeting. \<]
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby AlicetheKurious » Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:16 pm

Tahrir Square today:

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@Plutonia: thanks for the goodies. Re: Mubarak going to Germany, it's possible but I doubt it: he would want someplace a lot safer from his point of view: Saudi probably has no more vacancies, but the Emirates are definitely a possibility: he is VERY close to the ruling Zayed family and they have been among the very few to show total solidarity with him.

Germany seems to be the Merkel/Obama plan, though:

    Mubarak Heading to Germany ?

    Rumors are swirling that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak may soon head to Germany for health checks, in a face-saving exit that would likely be heralded as victory for demonstrators calling for his ouster and would also give Egypt’s new vice president some breathing room to implement U.S.-backed reforms.

    It’s unclear whether the 82-year-old leader has any immediate health problems. But such a trip, under the guise of medical reasons, could be one way for Mubarak to plan a graceful departure from the political turmoil surrounding him, though it’s unclear whether he’s amenable to it. Last week, he delivered a speech on state TV vowing to die on Egyptian soil — a jab at those demanding his exile.

    Sources at a luxury hospital in southwest Germany told Der Spiegel newspaper that they’re preparing for Mubarak’s possible arrival, under a plan hatched by the U.S. government that would have Mubarak fly to Germany for a “prolonged health check.” U.S. officials refused to comment on the report, and a spokesman for Chancellor Angela Merkel told Dow Jones that Germany has received no requests to grant Mubarak exile.

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton was in Munich for a security conference last week, but it’s unclear whether she talked with German officials about any such plan. Asked about a possible transfer of power in Egypt, Clinton said, “There are certain things that have to be done in order to prepare,” The New York Times reported.

    The paper also quoted Amr Hamzawy, one of the so-called “wise men” mediating talks between Vice President Omar Suleiman and some of the protesters, as saying his group of Egyptian intermediaries has drawn up a plan that would see Mubarak transfer his powers to Suleiman and perhaps move to the Egyptian resort town of Sharm el-Sheik or embark on one of his annual medical leaves to Germany.

    According to Der Spiegel, plans for Mubarak to travel to Germany are far more concrete than previously thought. Talks are being held with several suitable hospitals, including the Max-Grundig-Klinik Buhlerhohe, a luxury spa and health center in the Germany’s idyllic Black Forest, near the southwestern town of Buhl, the paper reported. The clinic’s website says it has the “ambience of a luxury hotel.”

    It’s unclear whether Mubarak has been to that clinic before, as the details of his previous trips to Germany have been shrouded in secrecy. Last spring he had his gallbladder removed at another facility in Heidelberg, amid rumors at the time that he was suffering from cancer.

    Der Spiegel said Mubarak was already camping out at his Sharm el-Sheik resort residence, but Egypt’s state-run MENA news agency said he met today with the visiting foreign minister of the United Arab Emirates.

    Mubarak also set up a committee today to recommend constitutional changes that would relax presidential eligibility rules and impose term limits — the first concrete step he has taken toward democratic reforms that have been the demands of thousands of protesters for the past two weeks, as well as Western diplomats. Mubarak also set up another committee to oversee implementation of all proposed reforms, Suleiman announced on state TV.

    Protesters have complained that the Egyptian government’s concessions — with Mubarak setting up committees like those today, and Suleiman holding talks with some opposition leaders — have fallen short of their demands. They want Mubarak’s complete ouster and haven’t been satisfied with his promise not to stand in September elections. Thousands are still camping out today in Cairo’s Tahrir Square, vowing not to leave until Mubarak goes.

    In Germany, lawmakers in Merkel’s governing coalition have said they’re open to the idea of hosting Mubarak if it helps the situation on the ground in Egypt.

    “We need a peaceful transition in Egypt. If Germany can make a constructive contribution in an international framework, we should receive Hosni Mubarak — if he wants that,” Andreas Schockenhoff, a senior member of Merkel’s conservative Christian Democratic Union party, told Der Spiegel.


    Elke Hof, the security policy spokeswoman for Germany’s Free Democratic Party, a junior coalition member, told the publication, “I would welcome an early departure by Mubarak if this can contribute to stabilizing the situation in Egypt.”

    But some opposition lawmakers disagree.

    Care must be taken to ensure that Mubarak doesn’t use a stay at a German hospital to duck his responsibilities toward the people of Egypt,” Cem Ozdemir, co-leader of Germany’s Green Party,told the Hannoversche Allgemeine newspaper. “Germany cannot become a luxurious sanctuary for deposed despots.

    By Lauren Frayer, Contributor, AOL News, February 8, 2011. Link
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Some interesting longer reports I've read the last couple of days, no endorsements let alone any certainties on my part implied...

February FOURTH, so not up to date -- several eras ago in current Egyptian time!

http://www.lrb.co.uk/2011/02/05/issandr ... airo/print

Why Tunis, Why Cairo?

Issandr El Amrani


‘Egypt is not Tunisia,’ the pundits repeatedly said on television after Zine Abedine Ben-Ali fled Tunis for Saudi Arabia. They pointed to the differences between the two countries: one small, well-educated, largely middle-class; the other the largest in terms of population in the Arab world, with a high rate of illiteracy and ever widening inequality. Tunisia was a repressive police state in which information was tightly controlled and most people never dared to criticise the leadership out loud. Egypt was a military dictatorship that allowed a fair amount of freedom of expression, as long as it had no political consequences: you could criticise the president, but not launch a campaign to unseat him. In Tunisia, a rapacious first family indulged in widespread racketeering, alienating every social class. In Egypt, most of the elite benefited from the stability the regime maintained, and while corruption was endemic, it was not generally identified with a single clan.

But there were also important similarities. In recent years, the legitimacy of both regimes had begun to wane; in each case the ruler had been in place so long that half the population had no memory of his predecessor – more than 23 years in the case of Ben-Ali, nearly 30 in the case of Hosni Mubarak. People were uncertain about the future. Both regimes had effectively emptied formal politics of meaning by banning any party that had real popular appeal and restricting others to the status of a loyal opposition, thus depriving itself of intermediaries between the state and its citizens who could have negotiated an end to the crisis. Both countries’ supposed stability was dependent on a strategic relationship with the West. Tunisia enjoyed a warm and privileged relationship with Paris: it was reassuring for the French, angst-ridden about the growing visibility of their Muslim minority, to be able to look approvingly on a Muslim country that peddled its own commitment to laïcité as a signal that although it might be a dictatorship, it was an enlightened and progressive one. As for Egypt, Anthony Eden may have described Nasser as ‘that Hitler on the Nile’, but after the 1978 Camp David Accords the country became a pillar of American interests in the Middle East and – by its withdrawal from the Arab-Israeli conflict – an unwitting enabler of the expansionism of the Zionist state.

Above all, Tunisia and Egypt were the last places in which most people – whether experts or ordinary citizens – would have expected to see uprisings anything like those of recent weeks. On the evening of 27 January, I sat in a hotel room in Tunis, eyes glued to Twitter for news of what was happening in Egypt. I had come the previous week to report on the Tunisian revolution, which on 14 January had forced Ben-Ali to flee. The mood in Tunis was exhilarating, the situation seemed pregnant with possibility. I didn’t recognise the country I knew: a people I had thought cowed by years of subtle psychological terror as practised by one of the Arab world’s most sophisticated police regimes, had changed overnight. On my last visit to Tunis, in 2003, people had seemed to be on the edge of a nervous breakdown, and in some way – cruel though it may be to say this – complicit in their own predicament. Now Tunisians were high on the freedom not only to express themselves, but to imagine the future shape their country might take.

Just before midnight, I began to receive calls from Cairo that the internet there was no longer working. A few days later I would find out that State Security had been monitoring and controlling the flow of voice and data communication since the first day of the protest, during which they had either shut off or lowered the capacity of mobile phone relay towers in areas where the protesters were congregating. It was the first sign of regime panic. As one friend said, ‘It was as if I had gone to bed in Egypt and woken up the next day in North Korea.’

I have lived in Egypt for 11 years. The internet has almost never been censored. A privately owned press had blossomed there, providing the critical news coverage previously absent from the state-controlled media. There was limited freedom of association; the regime occasionally cracked down on protests, particularly if Islamists were involved, but otherwise it was usually willing to tolerate protests. It had, however unconvincingly, appropriated the reform discourse of the opposition and shifted to a subtler, neo-authoritarian mode. Egypt is a largely globalised country, reliant on foreign investment and money from tourism, whose PR stresses its ‘moderate’ nature and the openness of its people. But there will be no return to the status quo after recent events: the shutdown of the internet, violent clashes between riot control police and protesters, and a dying regime’s cynical manipulation of the security situation has made that much certain.

The significance of Tunisia’s revolution was to demonstrate that change is possible in the Arab world; it was a spark that found ready kindling in Egypt and elsewhere. The import of the events in Egypt is different: the legitimacy of military-backed Arab republican regimes in place since the 1950s and 1960s has evaporated, but they too are learning from the Tunisian example and will stop at nothing to maintain their position. The question now is no longer whether Mubarak will survive as Egypt’s president, but whether the regime he represented – his generation of military officers were the immediate successors of the men who had participated in the coup that overthrew the monarchy – will be able to continue.

Mubarak’s appointment of his long-time confidant and chief of intelligence, Omar Suleiman, as vice-president (and in effect as heir apparent) on 29 January and the speech he delivered on 2 February announcing that he will step down in September, when presidential elections are scheduled, testified to this former air force pilot’s loyalty to the institution that shaped his life, the military. As normal life has shut down across the country, and the police and security forces have largely disappeared in many cities, the army has remained the only institution to preserve any legitimacy in the eyes of the protesters, who initially welcomed the soldiers with flowers. But, as I learned in Tunisia, the public mood can swing rapidly, and after the sad spectacle of soldiers looking on as a pro-Mubarak mob attacked the protesters in Tahrir Square with swords, metal bars and Molotov cocktails, hope for a gradual, negotiated transition to democracy is now almost nil. Either the military will continue to stand by and let a mob raised by the regime end the protest or it will turn against itself, with younger officers taking on the likes of Mubarak and Suleiman and the ageing generation who are Egypt’s ‘deep’ state. This latter outcome, unfortunately, does not appear likely.

That the military should find itself in this position represents a colossal failure, primarily of the elaborate police state it had established over the last few decades precisely in order to distance itself, as an institution, from the day-to-day repression that kept the regime in place and ensured that no viable opposition leadership could emerge. Since the Camp David Accords of 1978, the military has been profiting from its role in the Arab-Israeli conflict. Egypt’s standing army of more than 460,000 men, with its 4000 tanks and hundreds of fighter jets, with its three-year conscription (used to a large extent to provide free labour to army-owned farms and factories turning out dairy produce, poultry, bottled water and countless other goods), its lavish medical facilities and officers’ clubs, has never had to justify its existence or the drain it represents on the state budget.

At the same time, a security establishment estimated to employ, including informants, up to two million people, formed a parallel government, defusing dissent at a local level. It was security personnel, and not cabinet ministers, who negotiated with striking workers and contained the demonstrations by the anti-Mubarak movements that sprang up after 2005 in reaction to the president’s apparent desire to hold on to the post for life and ensure that his son Gamal would succeed him. Egyptians with any public standing – politicians, businessmen, journalists – had a security handler, a relationship that served to intimidate, reward and guide. The result was a political ecosystem with much more flexibility than existed in Tunisia under Ben-Ali, but this flexibility had its limits, and the system proved surprisingly unable to adapt when faced with a leaderless protest movement. It turned out that the biggest weakness of the Egyptian opposition – its inability to produce a charismatic leader with wide public appeal – was also its strength.

The man at the centre of this failure is Habib al-Adly, Mubarak’s minister of the interior since November 1997. Despite scandals over widespread torture, a decline in the quality of police work (Egyptian prosecutors often find themselves having to drop cases because defence lawyers can plausibly, and usually truthfully, claim that their client’s confession was extracted by torture), three major terrorist attacks in Sinai and several smaller incidents in Cairo, and increasing resentment of the security services’ intrusion in people’s daily lives, al-Adly emerged as one of the strongmen of the late Mubarak era.

He was the first of a new generation of security officers to become interior minister. In the 1990s, he received FBI training and brought in some of its methods, especially after the Iraq War increased the size and reach of the anti-Mubarak movement. He controlled State Security, a body that has long been used to stem internal dissent (at one time it focused on Communists, later on Islamists) and has in the last decade handled opposition politicians, tried to reduce labour unrest, and acted as an electoral broker. It was perceived as the Mubarak family’s first line of defence as it attempted to impose Gamal as Mubarak’s successor.

The demise of al-Adly after the events of 28 January – he had disappeared from public view by the following day, when the army took over the building housing the Ministry of the Interior – is central to a proper understanding of what’s been happening in Egypt. The protest movement’s apparent victory over the riot police on Friday 28 January forced the regime to do what it had only done twice since the 1973 war: deploy the military. When Sadat did the same in response to the bread riots of 1977, the army leadership agreed only on condition that the price of bread would be lowered. In 1986, riot police – mostly made up of rural and illiterate conscripts – rioted against the extension of their conscription period: helicopter gunships shot them down as they emerged from their barracks near the Pyramids and headed towards downtown Cairo. Since then, Mubarak had kept the army out of public life: the identity of senior officers – household names during the wars with Israel – is unknown to most Egyptians.

According to reports circulating in the Egyptian press, al-Adly was warned by Mubarak himself at 5 p.m. on 28 January that the army was about to arrive in central Cairo. The same reports suggest that a frustrated al-Adly decided to withdraw all police from the centre of Cairo and let loose the baltagiya – thugs hired by the police to beat up protesters – with orders to loot and cause mayhem (a Ministry of Interior document that appears to confirm this has surfaced on the internet). Later the same evening, prisoners were allowed to escape from several of Egypt’s most important prisons and (in still unconfirmed reports) political prisoners were executed. At sites known to be used by the security forces, holes were being dug in which to burn and bury documents, tapes and CD recordings. Gangs of looters, some of them later found to be carrying IDs from the security services, looted supermarkets on the outskirts of the city.

The next day looting and violence were widespread. Neighbourhood watch groups were set up and manned checkpoints with almost comical seriousness, checking the ID of the most innocuous passers-by. Tanks block major intersections, particularly close to the centre, and helicopters fly continuously overhead. The entire military deployment feels staged, intended to cause alarm: most people have never experienced anything like this – Cairo has turned in the space of a few days from being one of the safest capitals in the world into a Sarajevo or Baghdad.

There was a reason the protesters launched their movement on 25 January: it was the day on which in 1952 British troops massacred police officers in Ismailiya, a town midway along the Suez Canal. In the Mubarak era, it was known as Police Day and celebrated by marches and demonstrations on the part of the Ministry of Interior’s finest: its highlight in Cairo was a speedboat procession on the Nile. State television generally marked the occasion with a primetime interview with the minister of the interior, during which the interviewer (in recent years a notorious regime toady best known for his panting deference and startling combover of nicotine-stained hair) would marvel at the minister’s feats of vigilance. All this pageantry has increased considerably over the past decade, a sign of Mubarak’s increasing reliance on repression. In 2009, he announced that Police Day would now be a national holiday – which meant (providentially) that the 25 January protesters had the day off. The size of the protest – in Cairo alone an estimated twenty thousand people took part: although al-Jazeera and others exaggerated, claiming more than a hundred thousand – caught even the participants by surprise. What happened afterwards, culminating in a ‘million-man march’ on 1 February, was unprecedented. Most astonishing was the absence of fear among the protesters, most of whom were attending a political event for the first time.

By the afternoon and evening of 28 January, it had become clear to everyone that a major confrontation was coming. (Egypt’s football association had the previous day announced the suspension of a game between Egypt’s most popular club, al-Ahly, the National, and el-Shorta, the Police.) By midday, protesters across the country had taken on riot control forces armed with rubber bullets, rubber pellet shotguns, tear gas and armoured vehicles. They fought with great bravery, jumping on top of armoured vehicles, surrounding water cannon trucks and shaking them until they overturned. Teenagers ran towards tear gas canisters as they landed, picked them up and threw them back towards the troops. At times, protesters who had come equipped with medical masks and vinegar-soaked towels to neutralise the gas even attended to injured troops.

The protesters’ finest moment was what has become known as the Battle of Qasr al-Nil Bridge, during which they pushed back riot-control troops across a bridge linking Tahrir Square to the exclusive district of Zamalek. Security vehicles chased protesters, running several of them over, before themselves being immobilised and set on fire. A few protesters tried – unsuccessfully – to lift a police truck over the bridge’s railing and into the Nile. Such news as trickled in from other cities, notably Suez and Ismailiya, suggested that even fiercer skirmishes were taking place there.

Later in the evening, an increasingly angry crowd of as many as a hundred thousand gathered again in Cairo’s Tahrir Square – youths moved about in an adrenaline daze, shirtless in the January cold, their chests and backs bloody where they’d been struck by rubber bullets and pellets. Some stopped passing cars and began to siphon off petrol to make Motolov cocktails; others set fire to the security vehicles they had captured. The petrol was also used to torch the headquarters of the ruling National Democratic Party, just off the square: the blaze took three days to die out and came perilously close to spreading to the adjacent Egyptian Museum, which houses the Tutankhamun collection. Amid the chaos, some of the protesters mounted guard at the museum entrance, protecting it from looters. Some looters got in but they mostly ransacked the gift shop, though a few statuettes lay shattered on the floor the next day, left behind by looters disappointed that they were not solid gold.

The protesters don’t represent any particular political party, civil society group, ideological tendency or social class. Some come from deep in Upper Egypt – which has generally seen less upheaval – and others from Alexandria. One man I met who had slept on the street for days told me he wouldn’t leave until Mubarak does, or he dies himself. A middle-class, middle-aged couple giddy with excitement at taking part in their first political action since their university days in the 1970s carried a sheet of paper that simply said: ‘Leave and let’s live.’ There may be a core of activists who have been preparing for this day, but they are outnumbered by people who are there just because they have had enough.

A new political reality has taken shape in Egypt, one that goes beyond the legal opposition parties long complicit with the regime: the Muslim Brotherhood, which joined the protest movement late and reluctantly; and civil society groups and figures – Mohammed ElBaradei, for example – who have tried, unconvincingly, to claim leadership of the movement. Eventually, it will need a leader, but the events of recent days suggest that the regime – which has already split the formal opposition over the issue of Mubarak’s immediate resignation, the protesters’ one non-negotiable demand – is not serious about negotiating.

A pro-Mubarak movement has been drummed up, but many suspect that its members are plainclothes security officers and the usual hired thugs. Sadly, it’s likely that it also includes low-level cadres from the ruling party and ordinary Egyptians manipulated by the propaganda broadcast all day long by the regime on all ten channels of state television (the ones most Egyptians watch), as well as on some of the privately owned satellite channels. I have heard it claimed that my former employer, the International Crisis Group, conspired against Egypt; the commentator held up as evidence the fact that the Crisis Group had issued a statement on the situation in Egypt and that its previously published reports on Sudan and Kosovo had led to unrest in those countries. George Soros, one of the group’s main funders, was said to be the mastermind behind this plot (countless other Egyptian Glenn Becks would repeat the charge of muamara – ‘conspiracy’ – against the nation orchestrated by ‘foreign hands’). Pro-Mubarak youths were interviewed and allowed to claim that the anti-Mubarak protesters were all foreigners and Jews. A woman whose appearance and voice were changed to hide her identity claimed she had been an anti-Mubarak activist and had received subversion training from Israelis and Americans.

The regime is exploiting the fears of a largely poor and uneducated population, which only a few days earlier had shown itself capable of great solidarity, and blaming the insecurity it created itself on the protest movement. The concessions thus far – Mubarak’s announced departure, a willingness to negotiate constitutional and other reforms – were intended to achieve only two things. First, to counter foreign, and particularly American, pressure on the regime. Second, to make the public believe that a protest movement which continued to insist on Mubarak’s immediate departure was not being reasonable. That argument has convinced many people who are desperate for things to return to normal.

When Ben-Ali fled from Tunis, he created a vacuum at the top of the state that was imperfectly but quickly filled. The initial interim government did not please many, but a sense of civic duty appears for now to have stabilised the situation without a resort to authoritarianism. Mubarak, on the other hand, created a security vacuum in order to spread panic. In agreeing to step down, he tried to ensure that the regime would survive. Egypt is not Tunisia, at least not yet.

4 February

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