'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Jeff » Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:44 pm

Another Gulf oil spill: Well near Deepwater Horizon has leaked since at least April 30

By Ben Raines
June 07, 2010, 6:20PM

The Deepwater Horizon is not the only well leaking oil into the Gulf of Mexico for the last month.

A nearby drilling rig, the Ocean Saratoga, has been leaking since at least April 30, according to a federal document.

While the leak is decidedly smaller than the Deepwater Horizon spill, a 10-mile-long slick emanating from the Ocean Saratoga is visible from space in multiple images gathered by Skytruth.org, which monitors environmental problems using satellites.

Federal officials did not immediately respond when asked about the size of the leak, how long it had been flowing, or whether it was possible to plug it.

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http://blog.al.com/live/2010/06/another ... ll_ne.html
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby beeline » Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:55 pm

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^^^That sounds like plausible deniability if I ever heard it.

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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Hugo Farnsworth » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:06 pm

When I attended the OTC (Offshore Technology Conference) early May this year in Houston, it was like being at your uncle's funeral, where your aunt confesses that he has been smuggling heroin for the last 30 years.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Simulist » Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:46 pm

Hugo Farnsworth wrote:When I attended the OTC (Offshore Technology Conference) early May this year in Houston, it was like being at your uncle's funeral, where your aunt confesses that he has been smuggling heroin for the last 30 years.

That's good. Smuggling heroin might actually be a more respectable undertaking than the oil industry's concerted efforts for decades to maneuver an entire civilization into remaining dependent on an energy-drug that is not only finite in supply, but also terribly toxic to planetary life — and maybe even ultimately fatal to the aforementioned civilization itself.

Heroin smugglers might deserve just a bit more respect.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby justdrew » Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:33 pm

I'm now officially worried that something is causing underground deposits to experience increased pressure levels, across the globe. There've been like at least three natural gas well accidents/problems in the last week and a half, the north sea well problem, and now one or two more rigs in the gulf seeming to be leaking a bit.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby DoYouEverWonder » Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:18 pm

justdrew wrote:I'm now officially worried that something is causing underground deposits to experience increased pressure levels, across the globe. There've been like at least three natural gas well accidents/problems in the last week and a half, the north sea well problem, and now one or two more rigs in the gulf seeming to be leaking a bit.

Apparently this has been happening on a fairly regular basis. We're just hearing more about it now.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby 2012 Countdown » Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:33 pm

This needs to be commented on, BP is lying yet again about the flow rate.
What's that now? "the vast majority is being recovered" ? WTF...At least 5 times now they have lied on just this one item. The math on what they claim, and the visuals we see are at severe odds.

Prof. Doug Brinkley (Lived in NO) is on CNN doing a great job going through all the lies and repercussions.

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Amount of oil collected is nearly equal to amount that can be processed on the surface
By Jaquetta White, The Times-Picayune
June 08, 2010, 6:06PM

Monday's collection total of 14,842 barrels is just shy of the total processing capability of the Discoverer Enterprise. The drill ship, photographed Tuesday, can collect and process up to 15,000 barrels of oil per day.

http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill ... s_nea.html

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So they're actually red-lining the retrieval. More oil is coming out than can can be caught.
And remember, we were first told 1000 barrels per day to start. This is outrageous.
Deny, deny, deny.

This makes everything worse. If we were just told 6 weeks ago that an uncontrollable oil volcano erupted, we wouldn't have been so blindsided. If one intends to address a problem, it is best to know its scope. This denial and secrecy about everything, only to be found the were lying has to be criminal.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby DoYouEverWonder » Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:54 pm

Taylor Energy Denies Significant Gulf Leak, Says Photos From Unidentified Aircraft Were Misleading

A statement from Taylor Energy
downplays reports of a second Gulf leak originating from its Saratoga Ocean rig.

Taylor says photos from "unidentified aircraft" show a minor leak of less than 9 gallons per day. The statement denies suggestions by SkyTruth that a work boat was using dispersants to hide the leak, saying the boat was performing routine maintenance.

The Saratoga Ocean rig was damaged during a 2004 hurricane. Since initial damage, dischage has been stopped multiple times by containment domes and well interventions. Diamond Offshore is currently working to plug the leak for good.

We'll say this much: it looks like more than 9 gallons (see video).

Taylor Energy:

Taylor Energy confirmed today that it is continuing its ongoing well intervention program, using the Diamond Ocean Saratoga, with full approval from Unified Command. The well intervention program at Mississippi Canyon Block 20 is the result of the destruction of a production platform caused by a mudslide triggered by Hurricane Ivan in 2004.

The platform was toppled by a subsurface mud slide triggered by storm surges with 100 foot waves for 16-18 second periods. Because the wells were covered by more than 100 feet of mud and sediment and only four wells were capable of production without pressure assistance, the associated surface sheen was minimal and never made landfall. As a result of deploying three subsurface containment domes and performing six successful well interventions, the initial average observed sheen volume of nine gallons per day has been substantially reduced.

Unidentified aircraft took photos this weekend that incorrectly reported an oil leak coming from the drilling rig Ocean Saratoga. At the time of these photos, Taylor Energy was actually conducting marine operations on site with a 180 foot dynamically positioned workboat for a regularly scheduled subsea containment system drainage. The tanks mistakenly characterized as containing dispersants on the boat’s deck, were actually tanks to store and transport the collected oil as it was pumped from the underwater storage system.

“The effort is continuing as directed by the Unified Command “said Will Pecue, President of Taylor Energy. “We have been working consistently and successfully with MMS and the U.S. Coast Guard to address the resulting environmental impacts of one of the ten most intense hurricanes ever recorded by the National Weather Service.”

http://www.businessinsider.com/taylor-energy-denies-second-gulf-leak-2010-6

Six friggin years and they still haven't fixed the damn thing!

This whole nightmare gets more ridiculous by the minute.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby 2012 Countdown » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:17 pm

Fantastic satire right here...

Massive Flow Of Bullshit Continues To Gush From BP Headquarters

JUNE 7, 2010
LONDON—As the crisis in the Gulf of Mexico entered its eighth week Wednesday, fears continued to grow that the massive flow of bullshit still gushing from the headquarters of oil giant BP could prove catastrophic if nothing is done to contain it.

The toxic bullshit, which began to spew from the mouths of BP executives shortly after the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon oil rig in April, has completely devastated the Gulf region, delaying cleanup efforts, affecting thousands of jobs, and endangering the lives of all nearby wildlife.

"Everything we can see at the moment suggests that the overall environmental impact of this will be very, very modest," said BP CEO Tony Hayward, letting loose a colossal stream of undiluted bullshit. "The Gulf of Mexico is a very big ocean, and the volume of oil we are putting into it is tiny in relation to the total volume of water."

According to sources, the sheer quantity of bullshit pouring out of Hayward is unprecedented, and it has thoroughly drenched the coastlines of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida, with no end in sight.

Though no one knows exactly how much of the dangerous bullshit is currently gushing from BP headquarters, estimates put the number at somewhere between 25,000 and 70,000 words a day.

"We're looking at a truly staggering load of shit here," said Rebecca Palmer, an environmental scientist at the University of Georgia, who claimed that only BP has the ability to stem the flow of bullshit and plug it at its source. "And this is just the beginning—we're only seeing the surface-level bullshit. It could be years before we sift through it all and figure out just how deep this bullshit goes."


Congressional hearings aimed at stopping the bullshit have thus far failed to do so, with officials from BP and its contractors Halliburton and Transocean only adding to the powerful torrents of bullshit by blaming one another for the accident.

Along with the region's wildlife and fragile ecosystem, countless livelihoods have been jeopardized by BP's unchecked flow of corporate shit. Those who depend on fishing or tourism for their income are already feeling the noxious effects of the bullshit firsthand, as out-of-control platitudes begin to reach land and seep ashore.
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"This bullshit, it's everywhere," said Louisiana fisherman Doug LaRoux, who lost his house to a tide of government bullshit following Hurricane Katrina. "It reeks. Big buckets of disgusting shit are oozing everywhere you look and I don't know if it's ever going to stop. I feel helpless"

Added LaRoux, "I never thought I'd be the victim of so much bullshit."


Observers have noted that after the Exxon Valdez spill in 1989, corporate bullshit gushed up like a geyser for two decades and didn't wane until the oil company had bullshit its way through an exhaustive process of court appeals that ultimately reduced payouts to victims by 90 percent.

Despite Hayward's denials that BP is at fault for the environmental disaster and his concern that it will result in "illegitimate" American lawsuits, the embattled CEO has still managed to trickle out a few last drips of bullshit sympathy for Gulf Coast residents.

"I'm as devastated as you are by this," Hayward said after a meeting with cleanup crews on Louisiana's Fourchon Beach. "We will clean every last drop up and we will remediate all of the environmental damage."

"There's no one that wants this thing over with more than I do," he added a week later, just absolutely defying belief with the thickest, most dangerous bullshit yet. "I'd like my life back."

Millions of Americans reported feeling ill and disoriented upon contact with that particularly vile plume of bullshit.

Many environmentalists, including Palmer, have called for a boycott of BP until the bullshit stops or is at least under control, but they emphasize that in the long term, Americans will have to change their habits if they wish to avoid future catastrophes.

"We must all work together if we're going to cure our nation of this addiction," Palmer said. "The sad fact is, the United States has been running on bullshit for decades."

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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby lupercal » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:24 pm

DoYouEverWonder wrote:Six friggin years and they still haven't fixed the damn thing!

What's scarier is that nobody reported the damn thing. That's what the coordinated assault on the US press has produced -- fewer inconvenient stories get reported. It ain't the internet that's destroying newspapers, despite claims made by corporate "media analysts."
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby chiggerbit » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:44 pm

"There's no one that wants this thing over with more than I do," he added a week later, just absolutely defying belief with the thickest, most dangerous bullshit yet. "I'd like my life back."


Maybe that isn't really oil sludge that's washing up on shore, but liquified bullshit.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Simulist » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:47 pm

lupercal wrote:It ain't the internet that's destroying newspapers, despite claims made by corporate "media analysts."

Quite right. The newspapers are being destroyed by what now passes for "journalism."

If the internet shines a bright light on the abysmal state of journalism, all the better.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby ninakat » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:53 pm

Oil Guru: The Real Nightmare Will Be When A Hurricane Picks Up The Oil And Paints The Gulf Coast Black

Joe Weisenthal | Jun. 7, 2010, 10:15 PM

Don't watch this video of oil guru Matthew Simmons on Dylan Ratigan if you're in the US and you're about to go to sleep.

The Houston energy banker and author of Twilight in the Desert says we basically have two options: Let the well run dry (taking 30 years, and probably ruining the Atlantic ocean) or nuking the well. Barring those things, the best move would be to use supertankers to suck up as much oil as possible ahead of hurricane season, when the oil will be picked up, and will paint the Gulf Coast black. (via TheOilDrum)

VIDEO: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp ... 3#37560013
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Hugo Farnsworth » Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:04 pm

OH, and speaking of bullshit:

BP is Buying "Oil Spill" Search Terms From Google and Yahoo

Epic fail. In fact the words "epic fail" epically fail to express the epic failure.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Sweejak » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:32 am

Via email:

June 8
Lock-down on the Gulf
From a source:
"IMPORTANT!!!!!!!Hello i just got this mp3 interview with James Fox (["A few minutes ago, I conducted a short interview with documentary filmmaker, James Fox. He is presently in Grand Isle, Louisiana. The closest location to the Gulf oil spill. Before I spoke to James I received a few unsubstantiated reports that I put on the side.

What I'm about to share with you is extremely important. There is an absolute MEDIA BLACKOUT in the area. People are being arrested everywhere. Hotels in a 70-mile radius are completely sold out, yet, you don't see any vans or reporters filming. It's as if the entire area was under siege.
James Fox has witnessed this and he basically just arrived. He says he saw multiple Chevron helicopters flying. He has not seen any military activity. It's as if the oil companies had taken over. James expected to rent a plane to fly over it and that is not possible. The area above the oil spill is now a NO-FLY-ZONE. He will be there for two weeks.
I am issuing this bulleting because James Fox's name needs to be out in the public, as there is a possibility that he will be arrested. I have plans to talk to the Grand Isle's Police Department to get further clarification regarding these arrests, since James people don't even know who is conducting these arrests. James had the opportunity to talk to the son of one of the cleanup workers (former fisherman) and he told him no one is talking. He did say that no one is being told the extent of this disaster. It is much bigger than what is being reported.
The government is NOT IN CONTROL. The ones exercising all influence are the oil companies. Where is our FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT? I will be posting my interview with James at the forum shortly. When I called him I wanted to remain optimistic and felt people were exaggerating or simply fear mongering. After my conversation with James I can categorically say that my level of concern has risen to unprecedented levels and now I'm putting more credence to the reports I'm receiving.] -- Mel Fabregas reporting

CLICK HERE for the mp3 (18min long) feel free to post it, this info has to be out in the open."
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Posted here to support James Fox's request to put this info out there. MP3 coming shortly.. or go to Mel Fabregas's site.
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