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Weekend Edition
February 4 - 6, 2011
From Counter-Attack to Departure Day
Mubarak's Last Gasps


By ESAM AL-AMIN

There are decades when nothing happens; and there are weeks when decades happen.”

--V. I. Lenin (1870-1924)

“Victory is accomplished through the perseverance of the last hour.”

--Prophet Muhammad (570-632 AD)

According to the CIA's declassified documents and records, senior CIA operative, Kermit Roosevelt, paid $100,000 to mobsters in Tehran, in early August 1953, to hire the most feared thugs to stage pro-Shah riots.

Other CIA-paid men were brought weeks later, on August 19, into Tehran in buses and trucks to take over the streets, topple the democratically elected Iranian government, and restore Shah Reza Pahlavi to his thrown. It took the people of Iran 26 years, enormous sacrifices, and a popular revolution to overthrow the imposed, corrupt and repressive rule of the Shah.

This lesson was not lost on the minds of a small clique of officials who were meeting in desperation in the afternoon of Monday, Jan. 31, 2011, in Cairo. According to several sources including former intelligence officer Col. Omar Afifi, one of these officials was the new Interior minister, Police Gen. Mahmoud Wagdy, who as the former head of the prison system, is also a torture expert. He asked Hosni Mubarak, the embattled president to give him a week to take care of the demonstrators who have been occupying major squares around the country for about a week.

Not only he had to rapidly reconstitute his security forces, which were dispersed and dejected in the aftermath of the massive demonstrations engulfing the country, but he also had to come up with a quick plan to prevent the total collapse of the regime.

The meeting included many security officials including Brig. Gen. Ismail Al-Shaer, Cairo’s security chief, as well as other security officers. In addition, leaders of the National Democratic Party (NDP)- the ruling party- including its Secretary General and head of the Consultative Assembly (upper house of Parliament), Safwat El-Sherif, as well as Parliament Speaker, Fathi Sorour, were briefed and given their assignments. Similarly, the retained Minister of Information, Anas Al-Feky, was fully apprised of the plan.

By the end of the meeting each was given certain tasks to regain the initiative from the street; to end or neutralize the revolution; and to defuse the most serious crisis the regime has ever faced in an effort to ease the tremendous domestic and international pressures being exerted on their president.

They knew that eyes around the world would be focused on the massive demonstrations called for by the youth leading the popular revolution while promising million-strong marches on Tuesday, Feb. 1. True to their promise the pro-democracy groups drew a remarkable eight million people (ten percent of the population) throughout Egypt on that day.

People from every age, class, and walk of life assembled and marched in every province and city by the hundreds of thousands: two million in Tahrir Square in Cairo, one million in Martyrs Square in Alexandria, 750 thousand in downtown Mansoura, and a quarter million in Suez, just to name a few. It was an impressive show of strength. This time, they demanded not only the immediate removal of Mubarak but also the ouster of the whole regime.

An evil plan devised

As the fierce determination of the Egyptian people to remove their autocratic president became apparent, governments around the world began pressuring Mubarak to step down and be replaced by his newly appointed Vice President, the former head of intelligence, Gen. Omar Suleiman. President Barak Obama, for example, dispatched over the last weekend former U.S. Ambassador, Frank Wisner, a close friend to Mubarak to deliver such warning.

Wisner indeed delivered a firm but subtle message to Mubarak that he ought to announce that neither he nor his son would be presidential candidates later this year. He also urged him to transfer his powers to Suleiman. Western governments have been alarmed by the deterioration of the situation in Egypt and were trying to give their preferred candidate, Gen. Suleiman, the upper hand before events favor another candidate that might be less amenable to Israel and the West, and therefore shift the strategic balance of powers in the region.

On Saturday Jan. 29, The National Security Council advised the president to ask Mubarak in no uncertain terms to immediately step down. However, Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel and King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, whom the president consulted, strenuously objected and pleaded for time to allow Mubarak to stay in power at least until he finishes his term in September.

Openly criticizing Obama, former Israeli Defense minister, Binyamin Ben-Eliezer, a longtime friend of Mubarak, said, “I don't think the Americans understand yet the disaster they have pushed the Middle East into.” The Israeli lobby and Saudi Ambassador Adel Al-Jubeir went overdrive and intensified their lobbying efforts in Congress in order to exert immense pressure on the administration. Reluctantly, the U.S. president relented.

Meanwhile, the last touches of a crude plan to abort the protests and attack the demonstrators were being finalized in the Interior Ministry. In the mean time, the leaders of the NPD met with the committee of forty, which is a committee of corrupt oligarchs and tycoons, who have taken over major sections of Egypt’s economy in the last decade and are close associates to Jamal Mubarak, the president’s son. The committee included Ahmad Ezz, Ibrahim Kamel, Mohamad Abu el-Enein, Magdy Ashour and others.

Each businessman pledged to recruit as many people from their businesses and industries as well as mobsters and hoodlums known as Baltagies – people who are paid to fight and cause chaos and terror. Abu el-Enein and Kamel pledged to finance the whole operation.Meanwhile,the Interior Minister reconstituted some of the most notorious officers of his secret police to join the counter-revolutionary demonstrators slated for Wednesday, with a specific plan of attack the pro-democracy protesters.

About a dozen security officers, who were to supervise the plan in the field, also recruited former dangerous ex-prisoners who escaped the prison last Saturday, promising them money and presidential pardons against their convictions. This plan was to be executed in Cairo, Alexandria, Suez, Port Said, Damanhour, Asyout, among other cities across Egypt.

By Tuesday evening, Mubarak gave a speech in response to the massive demonstrations of the day. He pledged not to seek a sixth term, while attacking the demonstrators and accusing them of being infiltrated, in an indirect reference to the Muslim Brotherhood. Nevertheless, he pledged to complete his term and that he would not leave under pressure.

Although he pledged not to run, he was silent about whether or not his son would be a candidate. He ended his 10 minute address by giving his nation a grave warning that the situation was extremely dangerous, and that the country would face either “stability or chaos,” presenting himself as the embodiment of the former. Leaders of the pro-democracy demonstrators immediately rejected his characterization and insisted that he leave power.

Although Sen. John Kerry, the Chairman of the Senate Relations Committee, called publicly on President Mubarak two days earlier to disavow any plans for his son to seek the presidency, the Egyptian president ignored his call. However, a former senior intelligence aide, Mahmoud Ali Sabra, who used to present daily briefs to Mubarak for 18 years (1984-2002), said publicly on Al-Jazeera that Mubarak has indeed been grooming his son to become president since at least 1997. Although Jamal had no official title in the government, Sabra stated that Mubarak asked him to present these daily intelligence reports to no one in the government except to him and his son.

Sabra also described how Mubarak was disturbed after the first stage of the 2000 Parliamentary elections, when the Muslim Brotherhood won a majority of seats. He then ordered his Interior Minister to manipulate the elections in the subsequent stages and forge the results in order to put NDP on top.

Shortly after the besieged president’s address to his nation around midnight on Tuesday, the baltagieswere unleashed on the pro-democracy demonstrators in Alexandria and Port Said beating and clubbing them in a rehearsal for what was to come the following day at Tahrir Square.

Tahrir or Liberation Square has been the center of action in Cairo throughout the protests. It’s the largest square in the country located in downtown Cairo where millions of demonstrators have been gathering since Jan. 25. Eight separate entrances lead to it including the ones from the American Embassy and the famous Egyptian museum.

Around 2 PM on Wednesday Feb. 2, the execution of the plan of attack ensued in earnest. Over three thousand baltagies attacked from two entrances with thousands of rocks and stones thrown at the tens of thousands of peaceful demonstrators gathered in the square, while most attackers had shields to defend themselves against the returning rocks. While a few were armed with guns, all baltagies were armed with clubs, machetes, razors, knives or other sharp objects.

After about an hour of throwing stones, the second stage of the attacks proceeded as dozens of horses and camels came charging at the demonstrators in a scene reminiscent of the battles of the middle ages. The pro-democracy people fought back by their bare hands, knocking them from their rides and throwing their bodies at them. They subsequently apprehended over three hundred and fifty baltagies, turning them over to nearby army units.

They confiscated their IDs which showed that most assailants were either NDP members or from the secret police. Others confessed that they were ex-cons who were paid $10 to beat up the demonstrators. The camel and horse riders confessed to have been paid $70 each.

The third stage of the attack came about three hours later when dozens of assailants climbed the roofs in nearby buildings and threw hundreds of Molotov cocktails at the pro-democracy protesters below, who immediately rushed to extinguish the fires. They eventually had to put out two fires at the Egyptian museum as well. By midnight the thugs started using tear gas and live bullets from a bridge above the protesters killing five people and injuring over three dozens, ten seriously.

Interestingly, one hour before the planned assault the army announced to the demonstrators on national TV that the government “got the message” and then implored the protesters to end the demonstrations and “go home.” But when the protesters begged the army units to interfere during the brutal attacks that persisted for 16 hours, the army declared that it was neutral and partially withdrew from some entrances despite its promise to protect the peaceful and unarmed demonstrators.

By morning, the Tahrir Square resembled a battleground with at least 10 persons killed and over 2,500 injured people, 900 of which required transport to nearby hospitals as admitted by the Health ministry. Most of the injured suffered face and head wounds including concussions, burns and cuts because of the use of rocks, iron bars, shanks, razors, and Molotov cocktails. Al-Jazeera TV and many other TV networks around the world were broadcasting these assaults live to the bewilderment of billions of people worldwide.

Before the attacks started that afternoon, the Minister of Information had also executed his part of the plan. He called on all ministry employees to demonstrate on behalf of Mubarak in an upscale neighborhood in Cairo. He then asked the Egyptian state TV to broadcast live- for the first time in nine days of continuous demonstrations- the ensuing confrontation between the protesters and the government-sponsored thugs, in order to show the Egyptian people what chaos would bring to the country as Mubarak had warned them in his address just the previous night.

The battle plan was for the baltagies to block seven entrances of the Tahrir Square, leaving only the American Embassy entrance open for the thugs to push back the demonstrators in order for them to come so close to the Embassy that its guards surrounding it would have to shoot at them and thus instigate a confrontation with the Americans.

But the heroic steadfastness of the demonstrators lead by the youth was phenomenal as they not only withstood their ground but also chased them away every time they were pushed. By the next morning the assault fizzled and the whole world condemned the Mubarak regime for such wickedness, cruelty, and total disregard of human life.

“The events in Tahrir Square and elsewhere strongly suggest government involvement in violence against peaceful protesters,” said Kenneth Roth, executive director of the Human Rights Watch. “The U.S. and other allies should make clear that further abuse will come at a very high price.”

By that afternoon every major Western country has called for Mubarak to step down including the U.S, the European Union, the U.K, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Norway and many others. In Washington, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs called the violence by the pro-Mubarak crowd “outrageous and deplorable” and warned that it should stop immediately.

On the other hand, by daybreak, hundreds of thousands of Egyptians joined their fellow pro-democracy activists in order to show support and solidarity. The leaders of the protests have already called for massive demonstrations on Friday across Egypt after congregational prayers, calling the event “Departure Day,” in a reference to the day they hoped to force Mubarak to resign or leave the country.

In an attempt to contain the damage about what happened in Tahrir Square on Wednesday, Prime Minister Ahmad Shafiq offered his apology to the people. He also denied his government’s involvement, calling for a prompt investigation and swift punishment for those who were responsible. Moreover, Vice President Suleiman appeared on state TV offering an olive branch to the opposition, declaring that all of their demands would be accepted by the government, while ignoring the main demand of Mubarak’s ouster. He then pleaded for time to implement political reforms.

He also appealed to the nation to allow President Mubarak to complete his term until the upcoming presidential elections in September. For the first time, the regime then vowed that the president’s son would not be a candidate. He further called for dialogue with all opposition parties.

Ahmad Maher, 29, the national coordinator of the “April 6 Youth” movement, the primary group that called for and organized the uprising, immediately rejected the offer by Suleiman, calling it a trick to abort the revolution. He insisted on the main demand of removing Mubarak from power before any negotiations could take place.

All other opposition groups, including the popular Muslim Brotherhood, followed suit. Friday’s “Departure Day” is promising to be a decisive day where the pro-democracy demonstrators vowed to continue the protests until Mubarak is ousted.

Meanwhile, the regime in a last-ditch effort to limit the effect of the demonstrations have asked all foreign journalists to leave the country before D-Day (Departure Day), and dismantled all cameras from Tahrir Square. There is not a single network in Cairo today that can broadcast the event live. Clearly, this last ploy was designed to intimidate the demonstrators who insisted that they would not cowed.

Likely scenarios: remember Marcos?

The Obama administration is evidently very frustrated with Mubarak because of his stubbornness and obliviousness to reality. President Obama bluntly declared on Tuesday, “It is my belief that an orderly transition must be meaningful, it must be peaceful and it must begin now.”

Since the crisis began ten days ago, the U.S, which has been supporting and subsidizing the Egyptian regime for three decades, expected that its beleaguered ally would listen to its advice, limit the damage, pack up and leave. But his performance and ruthless behavior have endangered its other allies in the region, and caused long-term damage to its strategic interests, namely, Israel, stability, oil, and military bases.

Egypt was one of the most important countries and allies to the U.S. in the region. It was a cornerstone in its strategic equation. If Egypt were to be lost to a more independent leader, the strategic balance of power in the region would radically shift against America’s interest or its allies.

In turn this change might cause a major re-assessment of the long-term American strategy in the region, especially in regard to policies related to Israel and counter-terrorism. Thus, Vice President Suleiman is considered by the U.S. and other Western allies, as the best person who could fulfill this role of maintaining the status quo. Thus, the more Mubarak maneuvered to stay in power, the less likely this prospect would be realized.

Ambassador Wisner, who has been in Egypt since Saturday, was asked to deliver to Mubarak an ultimatum from Obama. It would be similar to the one given to Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines in 1989 by then President George H. W. Bush. Mubarak would be told that he should resign and transfer his presidential powers to his vice president.

If he refuses, the army would then remove him anyway, while Western governments would go after the billions in American and European assets that he and his sons have hoarded over the years. He would also be told that he would face a certain indictment by the International Criminal Court on War Crimes against his people. Surely, Mubarak would be expected to choose the first option and leave either to Germany under a medical pretext, or join his two sons in London.

As Omar Suleiman is promoted to become the new President of Egypt, this appointment will be hailed by Western governments and media as a great victory by the pro-democracy forces and as the expression of the will of the Egyptian people. Political and economic reforms will then be promised to the people, in an effort that allows great leeway in internal reforms but keep foreign policy intact.

However, this move will undoubtedly divide the country. The leaders of the revolution, namely the youth, who have led the demonstrations for the past two weeks and sacrificed blood for it, would continue to press for total and clean break from the previous regime. They will also be supported by popular and grass-roots movements such as the Muslim Brotherhood.

On the other hand, other opposition movements, which have little or no popular support bur were largely created by the Mubarak regime as a décor to portray a democratic image, will accept Suleiman and embrace the new arrangements in order to have a seat at the table and get a piece of the pie. The Egyptian public will likely be split as well.

With the monopoly of the government over the state media and other means of government information control, the new regime may bet on getting a slack from the public while it consolidates its power.

Alternatively, the youth movement, which started its march towards freedom and democracy using social media and independent means of communications, while spearheading the most robust and forceful democracy movement in the whole region, may actually have the last word.

Esam Al-Amin can be reached at alamin1919@gmail.com
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:42 pm

More kabuki or do they feel forced to adapt to what's developing? The thugs' counter-attack has failed and the "offer" of a Suleiman-led transition isn't slowing down the growth of the protests.

fwiw CNN-I has been a lot better than the US network news wrt Egypt.

White House criticizes Egyptian government and vice president

Washington (CNN) -- President Barack Obama's spokesman criticized the Egyptian government on Tuesday for arresting and harassing journalists and rights activists, and called comments by Vice President Omar Suleiman that Egypt is not ready for democracy "particularly unhelpful."

The remarks by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs reflected a growing U.S. dissatisfaction with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and Suleiman, the intelligence officer Mubarak chose as his deputy to bring about reforms demanded by protesters who have convulsed Cairo and the Egyptian economy for more than two weeks.

In another sign of U.S. frustration with the pace of reform in Egypt, Vice President Joe Biden, in a phone call Tuesday with Suleiman, pushed for more progress, according to a White House statement.

So far, the Obama administration has been careful to call for democratic reforms in Egypt while also trying to maintain stability in a key Middle Eastern ally that is a vital Arab partner to Israel through the Camp David Accords of 1978.

With detentions, beatings and harassment of journalists and rights activists continuing, and the weekend comments by Suleiman that signaled a shaky commitment to the reforms offered by Mubarak, Gibbs made a point of directly criticizing both the vice president and the Egyptian government in a briefing with White House reporters.

"The government has got to stop arresting protesters and journalists, harassment, beatings, detentions of reporters, of activists, of those involved in civil society," Gibbs said. Previously, he and other U.S. officials, including Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, called for a halt to the crackdown on journalists and activists without directly saying that the Egyptian government was responsible.

Asked about Suleiman's comment, made in an interview with ABC, that Egypt currently lacks the necessary "culture of democracy" for the changes demanded by protesters, such as freedom of speech and the right to organize opposition parties, Gibbs said the words went against what was happening on the streets of Cairo and elsewhere in Egypt.

"Vice President Suleiman made some particularly unhelpful comments about Egypt not being ready for democracy," Gibbs said, adding that "I don't think that in any way squares with what those seeking greater opportunity and freedom think is a timetable for progress."

Gibbs also took exception to Suleiman's insistence that foreign elements, including Islamists, are behind or motivating the protesters in Egypt.

"I think the rhetoric that we see coming out now that simply says that somehow what you see on TV has been drummed up by foreigners is at great odds with what we know is actually happening," Gibbs said.

In the phone conversation with Suleiman, Biden urged "that the transition produce immediate, irreversible progress that responds to the aspirations of the Egyptian people," according to the White House statement.

It said the two vice presidents discussed "restraining the Ministry of Interior's conduct by immediately ending the arrests, harassment, beating, and detention of journalists, and political and civil society activists, and by allowing freedom of assembly and expression; immediately rescinding the emergency law; broadening participation in the national dialogue to include a wide range of opposition members; and inviting the opposition as a partner in jointly developing a road map and timetable for transition."

"These steps, and a clear policy of no reprisals, are what the broad opposition is calling for and what the government is saying it is prepared to accept," the statement said. "Vice President Biden expressed the belief that the demands of the broad opposition can be met through meaningful negotiations with the government."

Gibbs repeated the U.S. call for an orderly transition in Egypt from the repressive rule of the past three decades under Mubarak to a multiparty democracy through free and fair elections.

Mubarak has insisted he will remain in power through the end of his term in September instead of ceding to demands for his immediate ouster by the protesters and opposition figures. Suleiman also says Mubarak must remain in power until the next election for the transition to be orderly.

On Monday, Gibbs outlined a transition toward multiparty negotiations in Egypt that provided more leeway for Mubarak's government than the calls for immediate reforms previously expressed by U.S. officials.

"The process has to be dynamic, and we have to see the government take part in a meaningful way and outline a series of steps and a timeline that the Egyptian people are comfortable with," Gibbs said.

In addition, Gibb said, "We have to see those that are not involved in government put forward a set and a series of ideas of what they'd like to see so that negotiations can take place and we can move forward."

Suleiman met Sunday with some Egyptian opposition figures in preliminary talks that symbolized concession on both sides.

Some opposition figures had rejected any discussions until Mubarak stepped down, while a government statement issued on state TV after Sunday's meeting outlined future steps resulting from the meeting.

In a brief informal exchange with reporters on Monday, Obama said: "Obviously Egypt has to negotiate a path and I think they are making progress."

Gibbs said Tuesday that the talk of reform must be followed by meaningful action, or the protests on the streets would continue.

"I think that the people that are expressing their desire for greater opportunity and freedom are going to continue to express that desire until the government takes the very concrete steps that I outlined a minute ago to address those concerns," Gibbs said. "And if they don't, then those protests will, I assume, continue."





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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Plutonia » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:00 pm










Yes! :thumbsup

Egypt: parliament, interior and government seats besieged

ennahar 09 February, 2011 12:19:00

General strike, the seats of the Parliament, the Ministry of Interior and the government encircled and thousands of university professors and workers joined the protesters. Even the pro-Mubarak turned against him.

The protest against President Hosni Mubarak has intensified Tuesday with the parade of hundreds of thousands of people in Cairo and the provinces, the most important events since the beginning of the movement on January 25.

Tens of thousands of protesters surrounded the government headquarters in Cairo, while others surrounded the parliament building and the council of the nation.

In Cairo, Tahrir Square, the epicenter of the revolt, was crowded. Mobilization showed no sign of abating despite the chilly nights, fatigue and Spartan living conditions in the square has become a village of tents.

Moreover, tens of thousands of workers from various sectors have joined the protest. Thousands of workers in the Egyptian telecommunications company gathered in the streets of Cairo before making a procession through several neighborhoods in the capital.

Workers from Sigma Company have announced an open strike, while workers of the cement company La Farge declared a general strike in solidarity with the protestors in Tahrir Square.

According to Al Jazeera Channel, dozens of pros Mubarak protesters, used by the regime to quash the rebellion, gathered to demand what the authorities had promised them in return.
The protesters said, according to the same source, that they had been promised to benefit from housing after breaking the revolt of Tahir Square.
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Postby JackRiddler » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:01 pm

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wikilea ... -IRAN.html

DEFENSE MINISTER BARAK'S DISCUSSIONS IN EGYPT FOCUS ON SHALIT, TAHDIYA, ANTI-SMUGGLING, AND IRAN
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1. (S) Summary. Defense Minister Ehud Barak's August 23 visit to Egypt was a success, according to MOD Arab Affairs Adviser David Hacham. Barak's meetings with President Mubarak, Intelligence Minister Soliman, and Defense Minister Tantawi focused on reviving negotiations for the release of Corporal Shalit, the Israeli assessment of the Tahdiya (Calming) with Hamas in Gaza, and Egypt's anti-smuggling efforts. Hacham said the Israelis were "shocked" by President Mubarak's aged appearance; their most substantive exchanges were with Soliman. Hacham said Iran was also on the agenda, with the Israeli and Egyptian sides agreeing they had a common strategic interest in containing Iran's regional ambitions. Our sense is that the Israeli-Egyptian relationship is gradually improving since the beginning of the Tahdiya in June. Barak and MOD in particular are committed to maintaining a strategic relationship with Egypt. MFA Director General Abramovich reportedly also is planning to visit Egypt next week to meet Foreign Minister Abul Gheit. End Summary.

2. (S) MOD Arab Affairs Adviser David Hacham, who was a member of Barak's delegation, provided Pol Couns with an overview of Barak's August 23 discussions with the Egyptian leadership in Alexandria. Hacham restricted himself to a broad overview of the three meetings (Mubarak, Soliman, and Tantawi) without describing any of them in detail. On Shalit, Hacham said the Egyptians confirmed that their discussions with Hamas had broken down. Hamas had refused to attend a meeting Soliman tried to arrange shortly before Barak's arrival. The Israelis think Hamas feels that the prisoner exchange with Hizballah had strengthened their hand in terms of how many and what kinds of prisoners Israel would be willing to give for Shalit. Soliman was keeping the pressure on Hamas, but the Israelis were frustrated at Hamas' stalling tactics. In a separate conversation August 29, Egyptian Charge d'Affaires Tarek El Kouni told Pol Couns that Hamas was demanding Egyptian guarantees that Israel would not attack Gaza once Shalit was released.

3. (S) Regarding the Tahdiya, Hacham said Barak stressed that while it was not permanent, for the time being it was holding. There have been a number of violations of the ceasefire on the Gaza side, but Palestinian factions other than Hamas were responsible. Hacham said the Israelis assess that Hamas is making a serious effort to convince the other factions not to launch rockets or mortars. Israel remains concerned by Hamas' ongoing efforts to use the Tahdiya to increase their strength, and at some point, military action will have to be put back on the table. The Israelis reluctantly admit that the Tahdiya has served to further consolidate Hamas' grip on Gaza, but it has brought a large measure of peace and quiet to Israeli communities near Gaza.

4. (S) Turning to Egypt's anti-smuggling efforts, Hacham said Barak had decided to praise Egypt's performance publicly both in genuine acknowledgement of some improvements in destroying tunnels and in order to show the Egyptians that Israel was capable of praising as well as criticizing them. In private, however, Barak also pushed the Egyptians to do more, particularly in terms of stopping the smuggling well before the arms reach the Gaza border. The Israelis continue to believe that the principle smuggling routes are from the Red Sea coast across Sinai to Gaza, and Hacham complained that the Egyptians were still reluctant to tackle the entire smuggling chain.

5. (S) In terms of atmospherics, Hacham said the Israeli delegation was "shocked" by Mubarak's aged appearance and slurred speech. Hacham was full of praise for Soliman, however, and noted that a "hot line" set up between the MOD and Egyptian General Intelligence Service is now in daily use. Hacham said he sometimes speaks to Soliman's deputy Mohammed Ibrahim several times a day. Hacham noted that the Israelis believe Soliman is likely to serve as at least an interim President if Mubarak dies or is incapacitated. (Note: We defer to Embassy Cairo for analysis of Egyptian succession scenarios, but there is no question that Israel is most comfortable with the prospect of Omar Soliman.)

6. (S) Iran reportedly was also on Barak's agenda. Hacham did not provide details of the discussions, but said Barak and the Egyptian leaders agreed that Israel and Egypt have a common strategic interest in stopping the expansion of Iranian influence in the region, as well as a common view of the threat posed by Iran's nuclear program.

7. (S) Comment: Barak's visit and especially his public praise of Egypt's anti-smuggling efforts is evidence that MOD's close cooperation with EGIS in negotiating the Tahdiya has resulted in a new atmosphere in Israeli-Egyptian relations. Barak's visit was preceded by Israeli-Egyptian mil-to-mil talks in Cairo, and will be followed by a visit to Cairo by MFA Director General Aharon Abramovich next week. ********************************************* ******************** Visit Embassy Tel Aviv's Classified Website: http://www.state.sgov.gov/p/nea/telaviv You can also access this site through the State Department's Classified SIPRNET website. ********************************************* ******************** CUNNINGHAM


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Postby Jeff » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:11 pm

Plutonia wrote:
Yes! :thumbsup


Big banner before the gates of parliament, as just described on AJ: "Closed til the end of the regime."
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby vanlose kid » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:05 pm

what is wrong with americans anyway?

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Americans support the Egyptian protesters
A new Gallup poll shows that the overwhelming majority of Americans are sympathetic to the pro-democracy protesters
BY JUSTIN ELLIOTT

Gallup is out with a new national poll on Americans' views of the pro-democracy protests in Egypt. The results show that fear-mongering by some in the media about a post-Mubarak Egypt has apparently not taken hold, with huge majorities expressing sympathy for the protesters:

Overall, are you sympathetic or unsympathetic to the protestors in Egypt who have called for a change in the government?

Very sympathetic 42 | Somewhat sympathetic 40 | Somewhat unsympathetic 6 | Very unsympathetic 5 | No opinion 6

So 82 percent of Americans are sympathetic to the protesters. Among those who are "following the situation in Egypt very or somewhat closely," that number actually goes up slightly, to 87 percent. The irony here, of course, is that Americans are on the side of protesters fighting a regime that the U.S. government has been propping up for decades.

And it's an open question whether public opinion in the U.S. will have an impact on the Obama administration's Egypt policy, which has notably shifted in the past few days away from calls for immediate change.

The rest of the poll is here (.pdf).

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_ ... _egyptians

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby vanlose kid » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:17 pm

Have Your In-Laws Mubaraked? ... and Other Egypt Humor
Posted by Joshua Norman

Even the most serious of situations - like momentous and violent political/cultural shifts - can produce some humor. As protests in Egypt against President Hosni Mubarak's 30-year reign grind on towards their third week, a little levity has slipped into the public discussion of the situation.

In Egypt, the most recent humorous meme is the creation of a new verb via the Twittersphere. Internet entrepreneur Samih Toukan recently began asking his thousands of Twitter followers to use the word "Mubarak" as a verb.

Here's what they came up with:

#Mubaraked : 1) To fail to get the hint, regardless of how obvious it may be; 2) to farcically outstay one's welcome

#Mubaraked : to Stick something or to glue something. ex "i will punch u and Mubarak u to the wall"

#Mubaraked: To get stuck to a chair when u stand up

#Mubaraked: 'I invited a friend round for dinner last night, but they didn't leave till 12 despite my yawns. They really Mubaraked'

#Mubaraked : You are currently addicted and 'Mubaraked' to Twitter


Protesters on the ground have also taken the opportunity to show some humor. Here is a sampling of some of the signs being held in Tahrir Square, the epicenter of protests:

"Please leave... my arm hurts."

"Please leave. I got married 20 days ago and I miss my wife."

"Please leave. I want to get a haircut."

"De-Nile Not Only a River in Egypt"

"Mubarak #Fail"

"La Vache Qui Rit (The Laughing Cow) MuuhBarak"

"The only vacuum to worry about is the one inside Mubarak's head"


Protesters have also been responding to outrageous reports on state media with humor. One such report accused "external agitators" of giving the protesters daily luxury meals and pay them each $100 per day.

One protester told the Turkish daily Hurriyet in response: "I came to get the [Kentucky Fried Chicken] or the $100 but I can't find it," said protester Khaled Badawy, who laughed while putting on a yellow wig. The sign he carried read, "I'm a spy, holding an agenda and asking for a KFC meal."

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162- ... 03543.html

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Postby vanlose kid » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:25 pm

The Egyptian revolution establishes a new social contract and values

Feb 7th, 2011 | By Nawal El Saadawi | Category: Egypt, Featured, Op-ed, Op-ed Featured

I lived to witness and participate in the Egyptian Revolution of January 25, 2011 until the moment I wrote this column on Sunday, 6th of February. I saw million of Egyptians, Muslims and Christians from all trends and beliefs – the Egyptian people are united under the banner of the spontaneous popular revolution, against the tyrannical regime which is corrupt from the top to the lowest rank.

From the holy Pharaoh, who clings to his throne and sheds the blood of his people, to his corrupt government and ruling party, which hires the thugs to kill the young people, to the forged parliament, which is dominated by the MPs of drugs, bribes, and women. Its elite is called “ the intellectual elite,” which sold its principles and conscience and ruined education, culture and public and private morality, and misled the public opinion collectively and individually, for the sake of its own interests or in order to obtain a small or an important post in the government.

Young men and women spontaneously took to the streets, left their houses, self-driven and protecting themselves, after the police and security officers failed and pulled out. The elite controlling media and cultural life was overthrown, the Wise Men committee which is approaching the pinnacle of wealth and power, and opportunist party leaders, who backed the ruling regime, secretly and publicly over the past half century. Opportunism and double standard moral values collapsed after corrupting the State, the family and individuals. After causing chaos in the name of security, dictatorship in the name of democracy, poverty and unemployment in the name of development and prosperity, and prostitution and adultery in the name of morality and freedom of choice. Humiliation and submissive compliance with the American-Israeli imperialism in the name of aid and partnership, friendship or the peace process, and the imprisonment of real, creative and authentic writers and journalists inside cells or isolating them and tarnishing their reputation or discrediting and exiling them whether at home or abroad.

Millions of Egyptian men and women took to the streets. Egyptians who come from all districts, villages, governorates and cities, from Aswan to Alexandria, Suez to Port Said, and every inch of the homeland, all the way to the capital, Cairo, to Tahrir Square – “Liberation square” – which became our camp!

Where we camped there for 11 days in a row, on the asphalt and inside tents, it is like one solid block of men and women. We did not leave our place. We were attacked by police disguised in civilian clothes who stormed into the Square, as happened on Wednesday, the 2nd of February, along with hired gangs, paid by the regime, where each member was bribed – fifty pounds and a Kentucky Fried Chicken meal for low rank soldiers, and more bribes with higher ranks.

They attacked us in Liberation Square riding camels and horses, armed with all kinds of weapons. One of the horses was about to crush me while I was standing there in the square with the young people, who carried me away from the convoy of the barbarian Hagana.

I saw them with my own eyes, riding horses and camels and galloping all over, shooting fire everywhere. Amid the dust and smoke that covered the ground and buildings around it, I saw fire balls flying in the air, and young people dying and blood being shed. A semi-war battle was ensued between the mercenaries of the regime and the peaceful Egyptian people who called for freedom, dignity, and justice.

The defense committee of the revolutionary youth was able to triumph over the thugs and arrest some of the horse and camel riders, around 100 mercenaries, seizing their identity cards. They included officers from the State Security, riot police, low rank policemen, some jobless men, thugs from the street gangs and prisoners who fled during the beginning the revolution.

Some admitted they were paid 200 LE each, and were promised 5000 LE if they succeeded in dispersing the young people and kicking them out of the square, or finished the protesters off with swords, Molotov Cocktails and knives. Ironically, they call the anti-regime protesters ‘those idles who cause chaos and riot,’ according to the loyal assistants of Mubarak who gave orders and money to these thugs to intimidate us.

Young people who set up tents on the ground of the square to rest for a few hours of the night, mothers taking their children slept over outside in the cold rain, hundreds of young girls who were never sexually harassed, walking around raising their heads and feeling the freedom, dignity and equality among their associates. The Copts are side by side with Muslims, and surprisingly I was surrounded by some young men from the Muslim Brotherhood, who told me, “we disagree with some of your writings, but we respect and love you because you did not show hypocrisy towards any power at home or abroad.”

While I was walking in the square, people from all political currents and ideologies came to me, talking to me with open arms, saying: “Dr. Nawal, we are the new generations that have read your books and were inspired by your creativity, rebellion and revolutions.”

I suppressed my tears and told them, “This is such a gala for all of us, for all of us, the festival of freedom, dignity, justice, creativity and rebellion.”

A young woman called Rania Refaat said, “We demand a new civil constitution that does not differentiate between people on the basis of religion, sex, creed, race or other,” and another young Christian man named Boutros Dawood said, “we want a new civil unified law for personal status for all people without discrimination on the basis of religion, sex or creed or sect.”

A young man named Tariq el-Demiry said the “youth made the revolution and we must choose our transitional government and form a national committee to change the constitution,” while a young man named Mohammed Amin said, “We want to dissolve the People’s Assembly and Shura Council and hold free and fair elections to choose a new president and a new parliament.”

A young man named Ahmed Galal said, “We are a popular revolt that establishes a new social contract, not just demands, and our slogan of this revolution is ‘equality of freedom of social justice.’ The people who made this revolution are the ones who should put the rules for the new governance, choose the transitional government, select a National Committee to change the constitution, the committee of wise men of the revolution, so as not to allow opportunists (the owners of wealth and power) to impose on us committees of wise men who did not participate with us in this revolt.”

Now Egyptians who have been living in America or Europe come back to us to become the leaders of this revolution, but we say: “Those who led this revolution are the ones who are leading the revolution, where we have wise men committees at the age of 30 or 40 or 50. We have competencies in all scientific, economic and political fields, we are the ones who form a committee of wise men, and will choose our transitional government and form our national committee to change the constitution and laws.”

Mohammed Said said, “I feel proud for the first time in my life because I am Egyptian, and now despair and depression turned defeat into victory. We paid the price of freedom with the blood of our martyrs. There is no power to bring us back, never.”

The square has turned into an entire city: a hospital where injured and wounded lie, volunteer doctors and nurses from the masses of young people, volunteer residents and blankets, medicines, cotton and gauze, food and water, something like a dream and fantasy.

I live with the young men and women day and night. They formed committees: to sweep the square, to transport the injured to hospitals, to provide food and medicines, to take over the defense of the square and the protection of the protesters and respond to the lies of the regime and propaganda promoted by the state media, to nominate the names of the Transitional Government and the Committee of Wise Men, and others. The wall of the institutions and taboos which distinguishes between citizens, whether women or men, Muslim or Christian or other, faded.

We finally have become united, one people, not divided on the basis of sex, religion or other, all demanding the departure of Mubarak and his trial and his men in the party and the government for the bloodshed that took place on Wednesday 2nd of Feb and everyday since the 25th of January, trial for the corruption and tyranny over the past thirty years of Mubarak`s rule.

Nawal el-Saadawi is Egypt’s foremost feminist thinker and writer.


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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby justdrew » Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:26 am

a somewhat dour all-too-realist take on things from asia times...

'Sheik al-Torture' is now a democrat
By Pepe Escobar | Feb 9, 2011

The Egyptian revolution is being dissolved right in front of the world's eyes by an optical illusion.

The protesters who have been on the streets for two weeks still want President Hosni Mubarak out. Now. Yet United States President Barack Obama is firmly in not-so-fast mode, glad that "Egypt is making progress". Obama has not mentioned even once the capital words "free elections".

Washington's "orderly transition" road map - fully supported by Tel Aviv and European capitals - is a facelift. Mubarak stepping down has become an afterthought; the already anointed successor is


Vice President Omar Suleiman, the former head of the Mukhabarat, whom the protesters call "Sheik al-Torture".

Sheik al-Torture already behaves as a president - while the actual president is still inhabiting his palace, but as a ghost. The regime, a brutal military dictatorship, remains an immovable subject - even while being denounced by the protesters as illegitimate from A to Z, from the executive to the legislative. The key point is that acting president Suleiman is the regime. If French philosopher Jean Baudrillard was alive, he would say this revolution never took place - except on the world's television screens.

Some among the fragmented opposition want the head of the constitutional court to be appointed as interim president, and then preside over the election of a constituent assembly. Others - including the youth movement - want a national committee to supervise the Washington-sanctioned "orderly transition".

Gilbert Achcar, professor of international relations at the School of Oriental and African Studies in London, goes straight to the point, "In order to impose such a thorough change, the mass movement would need to break or destabilize the regime's backbone, that is, the Egyptian army."

Meet the new boss ...
Egypt is a hardcore military dictatorship. The army, essentially paid for by US taxpayer money, is no "honest broker". The Mubarak regime's repression against the protests has not been even more vicious because soldiers in this conscript army would certainly have refused to shoot their own people; thus plan B, the regime's goons and the hated baltagia - state-sponsored thugs in plainclothes - unleashed last week.

Still, the regime was never shaken to the core - because the army remains in charge. Graphic example; the state-owned newspaper al-Gomhuria had a monster headline this Monday reading "New Era" above a photo of Suleiman meeting some of the opposition under a picture of Mubarak.

The protesters insist on the end of the state of emergency - enforced for the past 25 years. The regime says this would depend on "security conditions"; they could keep repeating this ad nauseam for months. The regime won't accept dissolving parliament; it refuses to hold a really free, fair election to replace the current, kangaroo, pro-Mubarak parliament.

"Divide and rule" is the regime's modus operandi - and it's working wonders. [ maybe, maybe not ] The tactics are predictable; minimal concessions; accusing the protesters of being a tool of "foreign powers"; and also accusing them of being a threat to Egypt's "stability".

Crucial: the "foreign powers" slander came from the lion's (Suleiman's) mouth last Thursday, in a long interview to state television - exactly the same day that foreign journalists were being hunted, beaten, arrested or humiliated all across Cairo. Suleiman explicitly blamed "certain friendly nations who have television channels, they're not friendly at all, who have intensified the youth against the nation and the state". How about that as a democrat's credentials?

Some already see right through it. The left-wing Nasserists (three seats in the 2000 election), who insist the revolution represents all Egyptians, won't talk to Suleiman again unless Mubarak is gone. Suleiman has explicitly said Mubarak - ghost, illusion or both - stays.

Writing on Ahram online, columnist Nabil Shawkat says about Mubarak that "the spirit of his rule, the essence of his regime, and the methods of his era are far from over". He also notes that "in his first television interview, he [Suleiman] gave the impression that he was running the country, that - if he wanted - he could tell Mubarak to go to his room and stay there." Talk about the ghost in the room.

Even with a monster ghost in a closet inside his room, the regime's targets remain clear. Activists, such as independent filmmaker Samir Eshra and blogger Abdel-Karim Nabil Suleiman, keep being arrested. Human Rights Watch's Daniel Williams was kept by the army for no less than 36 hours. It's easy for a well-oiled repression machine to intimidate the overwhelming majority in the streets, who have no political affiliation.

There are no independent workers' unions. The April 6 Youth Movement as well as Kefaya (Enough!) are campaigners, not established political parties. Legendary Egyptian economist Samir Amin, professor at the universities of Paris and Cairo, insists things might change if the working class and peasant movements started to act as forcefully as the current actors - the urban, educated, unemployed youth and the middle classes. What they all should do is to pierce the contradictions of the regime with concerted action.

... same as the old boss
Washington could live with an Egypt like a new Pakistan; a heady mix of unstable comprador elites, some political Islam (via the Muslim Brotherhood), military intelligence and why not, another military dictator. It's not exactly "democracy".

Yet the notion that protesters from all walks of life, from students to lawyers, not to mention Egyptian human-rights groups, would gladly accept the face-lifted Sheik al-Torture as a dialogue-driven democrat speaks Luxor temples about how Washington really despises nationalist, popular movements.

Before the Pharaoh anointed him as vice president last week, Omar Suleiman, aka "Sheik al-Torture" (everyone in Egypt knows he supervised US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) renditions as well as torture of al-Qaeda suspects), born July 2, 1936, in Qena, southern Egypt, was a minister without portfolio and director of the Egyptian General Intelligence Directorate, the national intelligence agency, from 1993 to 2011.

In the 1980s, he got training at the John F Kennedy Special Warfare School and Center at Fort Bragg in North Carolina. Foreign Policy magazine ranked him the Middle East's most powerful intelligence chief in 2009, even ahead of Israel's Mossad head at the time, Meir Dagan.

It doesn't matter that the Egyptian street abhors him; for the top echelons of the army he is the new rais. Al-Jazeera describes him as "the point man" for Egypt's secret relations with Israel. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu loves him. Former bouncer and Deputy Prime Minister of Israel Avigdor Lieberman has expressed "his respect and appreciation for Egypt's leading role in the region and his personal respect for Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and Minister Suleiman".

According to a 2006 diplomatic cable on WikiLeaks, the CIA - what else? - also loves him; "Our intelligence collaboration with Oman Soliman [sic] is now probably the most successful element of the relationship" with Egypt. Suleiman always negotiated directly with top CIA officials.

On the other side of the spectrum, Human Rights Watch stresses, "Egyptians ... see Suleiman as Mubarak II, especially after the lengthy interview he gave to state television Feb 3 in which he accused the demonstrators in Tahrir Square of implementing foreign agendas. He did not even bother to veil his threats of retaliation against protesters." Human Rights Watch notes at least 75 Egyptian activists and demonstrators and about 30 foreign journalists have been arrested since the protests began, and at least 297 people have been killed.

The street is under no illusions. They know the army - the strongest player in the Egyptian political equation - might even invest in a massive crackdown if it feels threatened. The spark could be anything from an imaginary threat from "foreign powers" to a feeling that they will never be ready to cede power to civilians for the first time since 1956.

Minister of Defense Field Marshal Mohammed Hussein Tantawi, for instance, is impervious to "economic and political reforms that he perceives as eroding central government power", according to a WikiLeaks cable. But for the moment the army is more than comfortable with Sheik al-Torture running the show. And so are the democrats in Washington.


Pepe Escobar is the author of...
Globalistan: How the Globalized World is Dissolving into Liquid War (Nimble Books, 2007)
and...
Red Zone Blues: a snapshot of Baghdad during the surge
His new book, just out, is Obama does Globalistan (Nimble Books, 2009)

He may be reached at pepeasia@yahoo.com
(Copyright 2011 Asia Times Online (Holdings) Ltd.


if Sheik al-Torture ends up the new mubarak, then I hate to say it, but the talk of this being instigated y 'foreigners' may end up having some legitimacy, although I think it's clear that even if that were the case, the locals have taken things much further than was likely anticipated or intended by those theoretical outside agitators. who might they be? The US.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Plutonia » Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:45 am

Yes, Suleiman will have to go with Mubarak.

10.45pm GMT:CloseLink to this update: http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/201 ... 1#block-57

In the most disturbing development in days, during a private meeting today vice president Omar Suleiman warned of a coup "to protect Egypt" – the Associated Press has a piece reporting further details of Suleiman's hostile comments:

Vice President Omar Suleiman warned Tuesday that "we can't put up with" continued protests in Tahrir for a long time, saying the crisis must be ended as soon as possible in a sharply worded sign of increasing regime impatience with 16 days of mass demonstrations.

Suleiman said there will be "no ending of the regime" and no immediate departure for President Hosni Mubarak, according to the state news agency MENA, reporting on a meeting between the vice president and the heads of state and independent newspapers.

He told them the regime wants dialogue to resolve protesters' demands for democratic reform, adding in a veiled warning, "We don't want to deal with Egyptian society with police tools."

At one point in the roundtable meeting, Suleiman warned that the alternative to dialogue "is that a coup happens, which would mean uncalculated and hasty steps, including lots of irrationalities. We don't want to reach that point, to protect Egypt."

Pressed by the editors to explain the comment, he said he did not mean a military coup but that "a force that is unprepared for rule" could overturn state institutions, said Amr Khafagi, editor-in-chief of the privately-owned Shorouk daily, who attended the briefing. "He doesn't mean it in the classical way."

"The presence of the protesters in Tahrir Square and some satellite stations insulting Egypt and belittling it makes citizens hesitant to go to work," he said. We can't put up with this for a long time, and this crisis must be ended as soon as possible.

He warned that calls by some protesters for a campaign of civil disobedience are "very dangerous for society and we can't put up with this at all."


The comments sound like a worrying development after the calm of recent days. This may be Suleiman's private face: no surrender. I bet he didn't mention any of that in his phone chat with Joe Biden earlier today.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby AlicetheKurious » Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:11 am

There's a lot of blah-blah-blah mixed in with a hefty dose of hindsight in the reams of rash analysis produced by individuals who have made a lucrative or prestigious career for themselves out of analysing Egypt for outsiders, yet were caught totally unprepared by the events of the past 2 weeks, and are now trying to pretend that they understand them and can predict where they're going. Yet even now they always seem to be a few steps behind, scrambling to catch up.

Yesterday, just when these pundits were announcing the revolution's imminent demise, it escalated: besides the thousands of demonstrators who surrounded the Parliament, the Headquarters of the Interior Ministry and the Cabinet, workers in the chemicals and petroleum industries have declared a nationwide strike, along with workers who service the Suez Canal. Also, in a move that personally made me very happy, journalists kicked out the loathsome and smug head of their union, chanting: "The people want the fall of the union head!" (Ashaab yourid eskat al naqib!) and journalists at a number of state-owned media rose up against the editor-in-chief, all of whom were regime appointees or, in the case of the union head, imposed through fraudulent elections.

The bad news is that while all eyes are on Tahrir Square, the regime is cracking down viciously against protesters elsewhere in the country, especially in the less-populated areas like Sinai and the New Valley, where they are reportedly shooting live rounds at them (not even bothering with tear gas or rubber-coated bullets first).

PS: Omar Suleiman himself admitted (very reluctantly, because it shows the plan) in the interview with Christiane Amanpour, that under the regime's constitution, he can never become president of Egypt, because he belongs to no party.

The constitution specifies that any candidate must have been the member of a legally-recognized party for at least 5 years before declaring his intention to run for president. Gamal Mubarak resigned his leadership position in the NDP, a move that was heavily publicized in the state media; what was not mentioned is that he did not resign from the NDP itself, and thus is still eligible to run for president. Hosni Mubarak's pretense that Gamal Mubarak was right there with him in the same room during his telephone interview with Amanpour, when we know very well that Gamal is in the UK, also suggests that his father is still trying to preserve Gamal's reputation, with an eye on the future.

Suleiman, as he himself admits, is an old man, reputed to have already suffered multiple heart-attacks. As I mentioned before, he is not eligible to be president. His assignment here is to quell the unrest decisively and preserve as much as possible of the regime before handing Egypt over to the crown prince, Gamal who is truly Israel and the US' ideal president for Egypt.

Will this plot succeed? No freaking way. But then, both the regime and its backers have shown that nobody believes their own self-serving bullshit as much as they do.
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Postby DoYouEverWonder » Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:23 am

Ex-minister suspected behind Alex church bombing

07 February 2011

Egypt's general prosecutor on Monday opened probe on former Interior Minister Habib el-Adly's reported role in the New Year's Eve bombing of al-Qiddissin Church in Alexandria in which 24 people were killed, an Egyptian lawyer told Al Arabiya.

Laywer Ramzi Mamdouh said he had presented a proclamation to Egyptian prosecutor Abd al-Majid Mahmud to investigate news media reports suggesting that the former interior ministry had masterminded the deadly church attack with the intent to blame it on Islamists, escalate government crackdown on them, and gain increased western support for the regime.

Mahmud said the information contained in some reports were "serious."

The proclamation, numbered 1450, pointed to the news reports sourcing a UK diplomat who explained the reasons why Britain has insisted on the immediate departure of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and his regime, especially his interior ministry's security apparatus previously directed by el-Adly.

According the UK diplomatic sources quoted in the reports, the former interior minister had built up in over six years a special security system that was managed by 22 officers and that employed a number of former radical Islamists, drug dealers and some security firms to carry out acts of sabotage around the country in case the regime was under threat to collapse.

The proclamation also pointed, sourcing reports on UK intelligence services, that interior ministry officer Maj. Fathi Abdelwahid began in Dec. 11, 2011 preparing Ahmed Mohamed Khaled, who had spent 11 years in Egyptian prisons, to contact an extremist group named Jundullah and coordinate with it the attack on the Alexandria church.
"Discipline the Copts"

Khaled reportedly told the group he could assist with providing weapons he had allegedly obtained from Gaza and that the act was meant to "discipline the Copts."

After contact was made, a Jundullah leader named Mohammed Abdelhadi agreed to cooperate in the plot and recruited a man named Abdelrahman Ahmed Ali to drive a car wired with explosives, park it in front of the church and then leave it to be detonated by remote control, according to the report.

But Maj. Abdelwahid, who worked for the interior ministry, reportedly detonated the car before the Jundullah recruit got out, therefore killing him and 24 worshipers in the church.

After the attack, the interior ministry officer asked Khaled to go meet the Jundullah leader in an Alexandria apartment and evaluate the success of the attack.

A few days later the two men met in an apartment in Alexandrian's Abdel-Moneim Riad street. During their meeting Maj. Abdelwahid and his security forces raided the apartment and arrested them. They were then driven immediately on ambulance to an interior ministry building in Cairo.

They stayed in detention until Jan. 28 when the ministry of interior and its security system broke down allowing them to escape as did thousands of prisoners around the country.

When they fled, both the men went straight to the UK embassy in Cairo and told the story of how they were set up by the government to carry out terrorist attacks, according to the reports.

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/02/07/136723.html
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Postby DoYouEverWonder » Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:30 am

For anyone who's feeling down about all this and needs a lift:

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The M$M wants to convince everyone that the demonstrations are winding down, but they just keep getting bigger instead.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby AlicetheKurious » Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:37 am

FWIW, I live not too far from a large (secret) military base that is almost certainly American. Last night there was a lot of helicopter activity. This morning we have fighter jets flying loudly over our homes. The last time it was so noisy around here was when the Americans were invading Iraq.

Where are they going? What are they supposed to do when they get there? :shrug:
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby stefano » Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:45 am

Ex-minister suspected behind Alex church bombing
That's hugely important, thanks. No Western coverage except Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung.
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