Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

[Novem5er]

I might have missed someone already commenting on this, but there's one thing that rubs me wrong about this recent Clinton health scare:

After being incapacitated at the van, she comes out a few hours later looking healthy and saying "I feel great! It's a beautiful NYC day!" (or something similar) . . . but then a few hours later she has an official diagnosis of pneumonia and decided to take three or four days off the campaign trail with no public appearances. Hmm.

Which is it: does she feel fine or is she ill enough to stay locked indoors for 4 days?

It isn't her illness that bothers me as a voter, it's the constant deception and calculated course-correction of her campaign, which are so poorly calculated that they only end up making her look worse.

[Luther Blissett]

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The majority of this board is seemingly very passionate about "the left" wing of of politics. A few seem to be offended when it is not supported no matter what. They want to see a team player. Neither one of these political parties deserves my respect in my opinion and I am definitely not a team player when it comes to politics. I treat it like a chinese menu. I take what I believe is good for humanity in bits and pieces from both both. This fallacy that there are no truthful facts from supposed "right wing" web sites is just that, it is a fallacy. I don't even believe in a "right wing" in the United States because both parties are right wing in my opinion. Each party speaks differently but they play the the same. Both nothing but shit.

Unfortunately I see very little of redeeming value from either these days and neither side means a damn thing they say anyway so its pretty much a moot point in my book. These talking puppet heads do what they are told regardless of anything they say. It wouldn't matter if it is Trump, Bernie, Hillary, etc...same train would roll in the same direction regardless. I see people hoping Bernie will jump back into the race and "save the day" and I just shake my head and palm myself. If he were to step out of line the PTB would beat his ass in a skinny minute. Look what they did to Bill Clinton (sleaze bag that he is) with Monica in the blue dress. That sort of thing is what happens when you piss those people off. Or else...
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People here tend to be left-wing because of the founding author's core beliefs, and can be said to be passionate about the left because of our (to define "the left" as loosely as possible) belief in betterment for all over betterment for the individual (a loose definition of "the right"). So the elements and aspirations of the left — egalitarianism, peace, environmentalism, civil rights, women's rights, worker's rights, gay rights, cooperation, future progress, mutual liberation with the poor and hungry, etc — end up being expressed here more often than expressions of the right (like individualism, wealth, strength, patriarchy, order, authority, religion, regress, tribalism, etc).

I don't think there are very many democrats here but I could be totally wrong. Most beliefs are far to the left of the conservative corporate party, so I think we agree there on the nature of the democrats. It sounds like you're saying we're passionate about the democratic party but I don't think that's true at all.

[Cordelia]

The mainstream press reported that Clinton spent the 90 minutes following her collapse in air-conditioning, drinking Gatorade and playing with her granddaughter. Since it's pretty doubtful that just cool air, electrolytes and playtime revived her, there's probably a Max Jacobson, 'Dr. Feelgood', lurking around somewhere.

The Strange Saga of JFK and the Original ‘Dr. Feelgood’

By Peter Keating

"Throughout most of his life, JFK was far sicker than he ever let on publicly. He had Addison’s disease, a failure of the adrenal glands that had a fatal prognosis until doctors discovered cortisone as a treatment, coincidentally around the time Kennedy was diagnosed in 1947. He suffered from terrible, recurring back pain, had a herniated disc removed in 1944, and underwent risky spinal-fusion surgery in 1957. He was prone to infection; just one example, in June 1961, amid a showdown with the Soviet Union over Berlin, Kennedy suffered a fever that hit 105 degrees and required cold sponge baths to cool down. He had ongoing troubles with allergies and his digestive tract, not to mention venereal disease. (On April 17, 1961, the day Cuban exiles landed at the Bay of Pigs, the president needed 600,000 units of penicillin to fight “a little burning with … occasional mucus,” according to his medical records.) As Robert Kennedy once quipped, “If a mosquito bites my brother, the mosquito dies.”

As a result, Kennedy took a crazy-quilt array of drugs, including corticosteroids, both oral and implanted as pellets, procaine and other painkillers, and intermittent but huge doses of antibiotics. Plus amphetamines and a slurry of other goodies from Max Jacobson, the original “Dr. Feelgood.” (Jacobson enjoyed a burst of pop-currency currency earlier this year, when “Mad Men” featured a character that was apparently based on him.)"

Continued...
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... lgood.html

[Wombaticus Rex]

I will say there is that photo of her the media always show of Clinton on her cellphone wearing sunglasses indoors.

No, they don't. You could disprove that in ~20 seconds on a google image search.

[82_28]

I was only saying, well there's that. There was zero assumption or assertion.

[backtoiam]

Trigger warning: This research as you might suspect comes from a conservative origin as they are the ones most interested in seeking out information about the Democratic presidential candidate and publishing it online as they are of course very interested in looking for clues as to the true nature of Hillary's health problems. However I do not feel that it discredits all details in the research. This posting is not to be construed as definitive proof of any particular health malady Hillary may or may not be suffering from.

Posted on September 13, 2016
Metrocare Home Services and Chelsea’s Condo – With the Clintons there are no Coincidences

There are no coincidences when you’re dealing with the Clintons. Left is right and right is left and reality is unreality in the twisted 3D universe they inhabit.

After collapsing at the 9/11 Memorial on Sunday, Hillary Clinton’s aides demanded that she be taken to her daughter, Chelsea’s multi-million dollar condo at 21 E. 26th St. 4th Floor, New York, NY 10010. Following protocol, the Secret Service wanted to take Mrs. Clinton to the ER at Bellevue Hospital, not to a private residence.

As reported by US Defense Watch and Free Republic last night, Chelsea Clinton’s apartment is currently on the same floor and at the exact address as Metrocare Home Services, a medical home services company.

The Whitman Building (http://therealdeal.com/2012/06/29/milli ... tion-loan/), across from Madison Square Park was renovated for condominiums in 2012. Chelsea and her husband moved into their residence in 2013 after their fourth floor apartment, the once and perhaps future home of Metrocare Home Services was remodeled that same year by Jeffrey Cole Architects of Manhattan. The remodeling work cost a mere $40,000 and was started in August of 2013.

What are the chances that Chelsea Clinton would pick a building formerly occupied by a medical home services company?

What are the chances that Chelsea Clinton would choose to live on the exact floor and in the exact condo where a medical home services company once operated?

There are no coincidences, especially when you’re dealing with the Clintons.

Apparently, Metrocare is no longer at the address in the Whitman Building. According to Free Republic:

Metrocare Home Services, which has apparently entered into a management agreement with Tri-Borough Home Care, LLC. Metrocare Home Services, Inc. is solely owned by Metrocare Grantor Trust, with Robert Silbering, Esq. as the sole Trustee. Metrocare Home Services, Inc. entered into a management agreement with Tri-Borough Health Careers, LLC ,which was approved by the Department of Health on December 19, 2011. The sole member of Tri-Borough Health Careers, LLC d/b/a Metro Care Home Services, a division of Tri-Borough Health Careers, LLC is Kenrick L. Cort, President and CEO. Kenrick Cort is also President & CEO of Tri-Borough Home Care, LTD.

One of Tri-Borough’s (http://www.triboroughhomecare.com/) specialties is caring for those suffering from Parkinson’s Disease; yet, another coincidence.

The company is registered by the State of New York as an active business and is represented by the law firm, White Williams LLP. Metrocare Home Services, formerly called Family Aides Home Care has a current address of: 120 WEST JOHN STREET HICKSVILLE, NEW YORK, 11801-1016. (https://appext20.dos.ny.gov/corp_public ... lts_page=0)

Metrocare has a dubious past.

The former CEO of Metrocare Home Services (http://www.ag.ny.gov/sites/default/file ... 0final.pdf) and Family Aides Home Care companies, William C. Schnell was convicted of stealing Medicaid dollars following a multi-year investigation and audit. Schnell pleaded guilty to grand larceny in the third degree on April 19, 2007. On August 18, 2008, the court sentenced Schnell to a conditional discharge and ordered him to pay restitution of $212,118 and penalties of $424,236. Schnell is now barred for life from participating in the Medicaid and Medicare programs.

Obviously, many questions still remain unanswered. When did Metrocare abandon the Whitman Building? Did Metrocare, now Tri-Borough Home Care leave a private medical facility in place for Hillary Clinton to use, away from the prying eyes of the media? Was the $40,000 remodeling fee for medical equipment?

Furthermore, and as stated earlier, why did Chelsea Clinton choose to live in the same building, and on the same floor where a medical home services clinic was located?

With the Clintons, there are no coincidences.

http://usdefensewatch.com/2016/09/metro ... ncidences/

[NeonLX]

I don't know much about nothin', but I do know that "democrats" and "republicans" are NOT congruous with "left" and "right"...especially not now. Both of the mainstream parties have become essentially status quo, with one perhaps leaning to left and the other leaning to the right...but both are corporate-controlled and war-hungry (same things, I guess).

[Luther Blissett]

The Clintons have access to the best healthcare on the planet, which is neither Metrocare nor Triborough Home Care.

[Cordelia]

And a doctor who still makes house calls...........

"Mr. Merrill initially described Mrs. Clinton, the Democratic presidential nominee, as feeling “overheated” at the commemoration ceremony. But just after 5 p.m., a campaign official said Mrs. Clinton’s physician, Dr. Lisa R. Bardack, had examined the candidate at her home in Chappaqua, and Dr. Bardack said in a statement that Mrs. Clinton was “rehydrated and recovering nicely.”

“Secretary Clinton has been experiencing a cough related to allergies,” Dr. Bardack’s statement said, adding that on Friday morning, after a prolonged cough, Mrs. Clinton was given a diagnosis of pneumonia."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/12/us/po ... .html?_r=0

[Burnt Hill]

I might have missed someone already commenting on this, but there's one thing that rubs me wrong about this recent Clinton health scare:

After being incapacitated at the van, she comes out a few hours later looking healthy and saying "I feel great! It's a beautiful NYC day!" (or something similar) . . . but then a few hours later she has an official diagnosis of pneumonia and decided to take three or four days off the campaign trail with no public appearances. Hmm.

Which is it: does she feel fine or is she ill enough to stay locked indoors for 4 days?

It isn't her illness that bothers me as a voter, it's the constant deception and calculated course-correction of her campaign, which are so poorly calculated that they only end up making her look worse.

Well it can be both. Apparently she was feeling well enough to perform her campaign duties up the point she fell ill.
Got into some air conditioned comfort, drank some cool fluids and felt better, well enough to make another appearance.
At some point she saw her Dr. and received the pneumonia dx.
At that point bedrest and IV fluids and antibiotics are typically ordered, regardless of how you "feel".
You may have heard of "walking pneumonia", its still pneumonia.

[backtoiam]

The Clintons have access to the best healthcare on the planet, which is neither Metrocare nor Triborough Home Care.

I would imagine if she is using Triborough for anything it would be for equipment purchase and maintenance and her actual doctors and care givers would be hand picked.

[Novem5er]

^^ I agree with the above from a rational standpoint, but this is politics, where rationality loses in favor of message and image! Any other politician would have set up a mini press conference with the brief message "I feel great, but the doctors say I have pneumonia and have ordered four days of rest. I'm eager to get back on the campaign trail, but if there's one thing I've learned over the years, it's that even presidents have to listen to their doctors. Yuk yuk. See y'all on the flip side. Peace!"

Of course, Hilary doesn't DO press conferences . . . which only gives more legs to the stories that she's unwell. I think her campaign management is one of the worst in history, or they are doing their best with a difficult candidate. Every single time there is a chance to sow confusion and breed distrust, they take it.

[Burnt Hill]

I don't know.
Maybe it is part of that "rope-a-dope" strategy.
And we are the dopes.

[backtoiam]

I think she made a mistake with the "deplorables" comment and Trump might make her pay hard for it. Lets face it a lot of those people are just part of the average 95 million unemployed people and people working two part time jobs desperate for a change. Trump will probably exploit that.

[km artlu]

This "basket of deplorables" meme appears as one node among many, within layers of complex backfield motion that I feel but cannot see. It's (intentionally?) lame on so many levels.

That's not a word. English doesn't pluralize adjectives. It's conceivable that it has never before been spoken in the history of the language.

Is it possible to imagine the phrase emerging in conversation? The core phrase was introduced within the larger one of "what I like to call the Basket of Deplorables". Really? That all just rolled trippingly off your forked fucking tongue? Of course it did.

I'm estimating something north of 50k paid to a cabal of PR hacks to brainstorm and come up with that. Which would raise the question - to what end? What was the mission statement; the end purpose of its tactical deployment?

While I'm at it, the first time I watched the 9/11 (ahem) lurching-into-the-van video, my initial thoughts were: not real...but pretty well done in terms of Secret Service choreography, pacing, and costuming, etc....hi-end videography...culture jamming...wonder who did this?

Like a good citizen of Empire I questioned its provenance until it finally appeared on mainstream platforms. What if that original impression of "staged" was correct?

This entire fiasco of a Presidential election begins to look more and more like one long ongoing psyop to me, with mostly all of the key players complicit.

"What", he babbled anxiously, as he descended deeper into paranoid dissociation, "the fuck is going on here?"