Amazing video of planted 911 ground zero "witness"

[11:11]

The involvement of Israel is not in dispute. It's a FACT.

Protocols of the Elders of 911.

B'nai B'rith or orginal? Lol.

[OnoI812]

FWIW, here is a lengthy, critical review of "The PentaCon."

Better yet here's a thread where Aldo eviscerates each of Arabesque witnesses , Then Craig and Arabesque weigh in... I'm still going through it but there's some interesting reading and pics there...

http://tinyurl.com/2nzehk

[OnoI812]

Any minor tidbit that we can pretend discredits them will work.

Minor tidbit? Tell you what Jingo, do your own experiment, If you can get one of those light poles in that video to fall through your winshield of your parked car, and not bend, dent or scratch any of the surrounding bodywork, just 1 time out of 100, Then I will completely change my mind and write an apology to Lloyd the cabbie.

[Jeff]

Any minor tidbit that we can pretend discredits them will work.

Minor tidbit? Tell you what Jingo, do your own experiment, If you can get one of those light poles in that video to fall through your winshield of your parked car, and not bend, dent or scratch any of the surrounding bodywork, just 1 time out of 100, Then I will completely change my mind and write an apology to Lloyd the cabbie.

What do you think happened with Lloyd and the light pole, in broad daylight, in the middle of highway traffic?

[Jeff]

Better yet here's a thread where Aldo eviscerates each of Arabesque witnesses , Then Craig and Arabesque weigh in... I'm still going through it but there's some interesting reading and pics there...

http://tinyurl.com/2nzehk

Arabesque, from the link:

1. No single witness has ever come forward to claim that a large commercial plane did not hit the Pentagon. This is if you take away the very small percentage who claimed it was a small plane from from farther away.

2. No single witness has ever come forward to claim that a plane flew over the Pentagon--excluding the C-130. The Pentagon is surrounded by large highways.

3. No single witness has ever come forward to retract his claim that a plane hit the Pentagon.

4. No single witness has ever come forward to claim that anything other than a plane knocked down the light poles.

5. No single witness has ever come forward to claim that any debris was planted at the crash site.

This is significant because of the traffic jams next to the Pentagon. Eyewitness testimony has been used to incriminate official complicity in events such as the WTC attack, the Oklahoma City Bombing, the shoot down of flight 93 and other events. So why is there no compelling witness testimony at the Pentagon to *directly* support a flyover, or alternative event at the Pentagon? In any case, the fact that a plane could hit the ground floor of the Pentagon is incriminating enough evidence as it is. Hanni Hanjour could not have accomplished this feat, and this alone proves an inside job. This is the strongest evidence of all--no speculation required.

That bizarre and unsupported tangents have come to dominate "9/11 Truth," and that to dispute them is to be called a "gatekeeper" or worse, is maybe the most depressing turn of the past six years. And predictable.

[Doodad]

It is important to see anti-elite conspiracism and scapegoating as not merely destructive of a progressive analysis but also as specific techniques used by fascist political movements to provide a radical-sounding left cover for a rightist attack on the status quo.


Oh, hahaha! You've gotta be freaking kidding me. My, they are working over time, and employing some really bad writers! Lol Who writes this stuff? Anti-elite conspiracism? Yes, protect that status quo! Amazing piece of desperate tripe, there, Doodad. Thank you for posting it. I can just see all of the poor little psuedo intellects trying to adjust their thinking after reading that. Thank GOD most people have the common sense to not get sucked into that kind of mind control. That's why the "status quo" is resorting to tasers.

There's a reason that type of sense is called "common." The gentleman is not an advocate of the status quo; only pointing out that the progressive and the status quo positions are in danger from the same source-"fascist political movements." I would have thought it quite evident that this is the case and that both "sides," get played against one another.

[OnoI812]

and that to dispute them is to be called a "gatekeeper" or worse,

I didn't catch the part where they called him a gatekeeper....rather they imply he's sloppy, I think they feel the need to display his slop because he actually cites some witnesses that he did NOT interview, yet they themselves HAVE interviewed....BTW, how are your interviews coming Jeff, I'd like to see those.

[jingofever]

Tell you what Jingo, do your own experiment, If you can get one of those light poles in that video to fall through your winshield of your parked car, and not bend, dent or scratch any of the surrounding bodywork, just 1 time out of 100, Then I will completely change my mind and write an apology to Lloyd the cabbie.

I would perform the experiment but I need access to a 757.

[11:11]

and that to dispute them is to be called a "gatekeeper" or worse,

I didn't catch the part where they called him a gatekeeper....rather they imply he's sloppy, I think they feel the need to display his slop because he actually cites some witnesses that he did NOT interview, yet they themselves HAVE interviewed....BTW, how are your interviews coming Jeff, I'd like to see those.

I used the gatekeeper term. I was refering to the whole physical evidence doesn't matter tactic, which involves painting the 9/11 truth movement as "anti semite", tinfoil hat, wacko, and uses derogatory names like "toofers" for the no less than amazing citizen investigators who are tackling the biggest most complex crime ever.

OBVIOUSLY, something is very wrong with poor Lloyd's story. In the meantime, the hole in the Penatgram, with the lack of airplane parts, luggage, the correct engine parts, etc., speaks for itself. This would be the same crime scene where we are told that a passenger was disintegrated, along with all of the passengers, but we have the DNA of the victims.

We might never find out what happened to Lloyd, but we CAN use the physical evidence do hang the perps.

[orz]

I was refering to the whole physical evidence doesn't matter tactic,

It's not so much that it doesn't matter, as that it's usually not actually physical evidence at all. It's more often selectively quoted mainstream news and/or anacdotal evidence, or even good old fashioned speculation, aggressively presented as 'physical evidence'

[orz]

OBVIOUSLY, something is very wrong with poor Lloyd's story.

Clue: there's something wrong with EVERY QUOTE EVER PRINTED IN A NEWSPAPER. The media does not accurately quote people, as a rule.

Also people who've narrowly excaped being killed by a flying lamppost aren't neccessarily the most coherent and objective when describing the finer points of what happened.

[Jeff]

Also people who've narrowly excaped being killed by a flying lamppost aren't neccessarily the most coherent and objective when describing the finer points of what happened.

Over and over again in the picking apart of eyewitness testimony I find this: an absolute lack of empathy regarding the trauma and the singularity of the event. Unusual behaviour should be expected in such a situation, rather than taken as supporting evidence for their having been "planted."

We might never find out what happened to Lloyd, but we CAN use the physical evidence do hang the perps.

Since you apparently believe poor Lloyd was mind controlled in order to fake a light pole crashing into his cab, and that his Icke book was a Mossad calling card, I sincerely hope it's never in your power to hang anybody.

[11:11]

OBVIOUSLY, something is very wrong with poor Lloyd's story.

Clue: there's something wrong with EVERY QUOTE EVER PRINTED IN A NEWSPAPER. The media does not accurately quote people, as a rule.

Also people who've narrowly excaped being killed by a flying lamppost aren't neccessarily the most coherent and objective when describing the finer points of what happened.

There is a video interview with Lloyd, right here in this thread. We can hear him in his own words. The poor man is very confused. I suspect that the white van occupant smashed Lloyd's windsheild, and left him with a story and memory that doesn't make sense. Lloyd is another 9/11 victim.

[11:11]

Could Lloyd have been handled like this?


Derren Brown Russian Scam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZohpDS2aMc

NLP explaination of same: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybmOlQRuaYM

[Jeff]

Does it make no impression that there are no witnesses who saw the plane overfly the Pentagon, and that the CITGO witness who would bet his life on the flight path also wrongly placed the taxi and the crashed light poles?