Uh-oh, another Stadium gig..

[Et in Arcadia ego]

Arcadia, that's a cute animation and I remember seeing the originals, probably from the site I mention above, but is there a verified source? Remind me, is it EM radiation we're supposed to be seeing or something else? It does look like some kind of directed energy and wasn't someone claiming credit for it at the time? I'm sure someone remembers better than I do.

Its a Radar image. There were several different websites that published the image and others like it nearly simultaneously. I'm not aware of any kind of credit being assigned for it, but there were other anomalies associated with Rita that were very interesting, like the 'bowshock' that hit Rita after landfall in Texas. The bowshock essentially defanged Rita almost completely in a matter of hour.

edit: Here's one possible place you can look: http://radaranomalies.com/

[11:11]

So many things going through my mind.

For one, it's very disturbing when anyone finds any delight because "rich people" are loosing their homes (re: that vile blog post from above). I'm sick of the filthy rich, too, but wishing this on anyone? I've lived through these SoCal fires, and it's the most horrible thing I've ever witnessed. All I can think of are the poor animals, wild and domesticated. Plenty of those areas have horse ranches, along with other animals. Animals are the MAIN victims of these fires. Then firefighters.

It was very troubling to see how people flocked to the stadium (my 2 rules: don't take the vaccine and don't go the dome). The reason it's different from New Orleans is because of minimal federal government interference. In NOLA, FEMA prevented help. Thousands of people came to help and were blocked. San Diego is a great example of people coming together and helping each other. I'm sure Chertoff is taking notes on A) the inclination of people to flock to one place, and B) how hard FEMA must work to fuck up good people.

I have no doubt that Blackwater would be capable of arson. The groundwork for Al Qeada has been laid, as well, with the reconquista group, La Voz de Aztlan threatening a teaming up of Al Qaeda and Mexican illegals if we don't keep our borders open. Why do you suppose they said that?

[starviego]

some local news from San Diego:

--Residents have been camped out on route67 into Ramona(pop 35,000), sweltering in the sun, waiting to get back in. This morning, apparently, about 100 vehicles blew past the sheriff's blockade; after which they called in the national guard. So now they have troops with M-16s stopping people from going back. A local official just called it a "military blockade" manned by "military police." Now they are saying they don't want people coming back and using their water so that it will be available to firefighters to fight any more fires that might start there. But about 3000-5000 did not evacuate from Ramona anyway and are not in any danger from fire.

--At least 4 Mexican illegal immigrants were arrested at the Qualcomm stadium evacuation center for trying to steal relief supplies. Another 3-4 were badly burned near the border trying to sneak through and are now receiving treatment in our public hospitals.

--One of the first fires, the 'Harris' fire, started near the town of Potrero, which aparently sustained some major damage. This is the place Blackwater has selected to build a large camp, despite local opposition. They are scheduled to vote on it in six weeks. I wonder how many will be left to vote.

--they found six more bodies today of people that died in the fire

[11:11]

starviego, are you in SoCal?

[starviego]

yes, I live in San Diego.

my 2 rules: don't take the vaccine and don't go the dome

What's that mean? Were you there at Qualcomm?

[chlamor]

Fire chief: 25,000-acre blaze was set


ORANGE COUNTY, California (CNN) -- One of the larger fires in Southern California was deliberately started by someone with apparent knowledge of arson, a fire official said Thursday.

The Santiago Fire in Orange County was started in two places along a little-traveled road, according to Chief Chip Prather of the county's fire authority.

The fire, which has burned more than 25,000 acres, was started in brush just off Santiago Canyon Road, not close to homes. It spread rapidly, indicating the arsonist had some knowledge of winds and other factors.

"It is a confirmed arson. There was evidence found at the scene. That is the purpose of our early declaration of it being an arson-caused fire," Prather said. He would not describe the evidence. Video Watch how the evidence points to arson »

Prather said officials originally thought the fire had three points of origin instead of two.

The Santiago Fire's points of origin are considered crime scenes, said Jim Amornino, a spokesman for the Orange County Sheriff's Department.

The reward for information leading to an arrest has increased to $150,000 -- $50,000 each from the governor's office, the U.S. agency of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and the FBI, Prather said.
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The state established a toll-free arson tip line at 800-540-7085. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said anyone convicted of arson would be dealt with harshly.

About 1,100 firefighters were working on controlling the Santiago Fire, which has destroyed at least 22 structures, according to Orange County Fire Battalion Chief Kris Concepcion. The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection said the fire was only 30 percent contained Thursday morning after being 50 percent contained the day before.

The motive of the Santiago Fire's arsonist was a mystery to Concepcion.

"That's the part that I really can't figure out, to tell you the truth," he told CNN. "That individual knew on Sunday when this fire started that we had, really, the perfect storm, if you will. We had the heavy Santa Ana winds, we had the low relative humidities, we had the high temperatures.

"And then for someone to even think about doing something as reprehensible as starting a fire where they knew the fire would grow as rapidly as it would -- traveling about three, 3½ miles in about an hour -- is just really absolutely unconscionable," he said.

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The San Diego County Sheriff's Department also arrested an adult and a juvenile accused by an anonymous tipster of starting a fire in Vista in the northern part of the county. In a written statement, the sheriff's department identified the adult as Gorgonio Nava. The Vista Fire Department extinguished the blaze before it grew out of control, the statement said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/10/25/fi ... cnnSTCText

[sunny]

California police shoot dead suspected arsonist

Fred Attewill
Thursday October 25, 2007
Guardian Unlimited

Police have shot dead a man suspected of starting a fire in southern California amid growing concern that arsonists are responsible for some of the wildfires burning across the state.
The victim, a 27-year-old man from Arizona, had been spotted in scrubland near San Bernardino university campus on Tuesday evening. The area is on high alert after hundreds of homes were destroyed in the nearby mountains.

Armed university police tried to detain the man but he climbed into his car and drove off. He was chased up a track towards the foothills, where he was cornered. He was shot and killed when he reversed into a police car, authorities said.

The Los Angeles Times said state police were also involved in the shooting, but it was not clear which force fired the fatal shot.
Lieutenant Scott Patterson, of San Bernardino police, told the newspaper: "We don't know whether he was an arsonist ... Things being how they are, there was a suspicion that he could be an arsonist."

He said the area was "very fire-prone. It's an area that would be very devastated if a fire were to start there."

The San Bernardino county sheriff's department was investigating the shooting, said the LA Times.

Investigators believe at least two wildfires, including one in Orange county near Los Angeles, were started by arsonists. The FBI is investigating the blaze.

Three hours after the San Bernardino shooting, in the city of Hesperia, a man seen squatting by the roadside was arrested. Local police said the man, John Alfred Rund, 48, had just started a fire.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2198866,00.html

[11:11]

yes, I live in San Diego.

my 2 rules: don't take the vaccine and don't go the dome

What's that mean? Were you there at Qualcomm?

No, I live in Michigan, now. It was Katrina that made me decide to NEVER go any "shelter" for the mobs. The vaccine thing is because I'm certain that vaccines are being used by the elites to sicken, not help.

My experience of the SoCal fires was when I lived in Long Beach. In '93, there were terrible fires in Malibu and Laguna. I could see the flames in Laguna from Long Beach! After the fires, as usual, came the rains and mud slides. I went to Laguna to sand bag. I walked through the burned up neighborhoods. Nothing but ashes and chimneys.

When I first moved to California, I lived in Topanga. Looking back, I would never live there. There would be no escape in a raging fire. Nothing but winding mountain roads, heavy with brush. The most beautiful parts of California are the most dangerous for fire, as you probably know.

Tonight I've been hearing that the Marines were ready with over 20 helicopters, and they were willing to fly in the high winds. California didn't give the go ahead, so they weren't used. Gonna be a shit storm about that.

[11:11]

I read that story about the campus cops shooting the guy, yesterday. The article I read was slightly different. It said he MAY have been starting a fire, was in an area that nobody should have been in (WTF does that mean?), and that he rammed the cop car.

Now, I'm not in favor of the death penalty, but I wouldn't be upset if anyone convicted of ANY arson got taken out of the population. Still, I found that story pretty disturbing. I wonder if they couldn't have shot to disable, not to kill. I was also surprised that campus cops had guns.

[Sweejak]

RE Rita images, those are images created by microwaves.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... ption.html

Disclaimer:

The individual images that are used as input into this product sometimes contain bad data in the form of missing scanlines or anamalously high or low values that often stretch in an arc across the image. When these areas are incorporated into the MIMIC product they form artifacts that fade in and out, and appear to move with the storm center. However, they have no physical meaning and hopefully they will not obstruct your interpretation of the imagery.
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... marti.html

FWIW, Hoagland:

One important note: since we first called world-wide attention to these MIMIC microwave radiometry images in an earlier "Captain's Blog," the University of Wisconsin site has added a major "disclaimer" to all its posted MIMIC imagery. The new clam is that we are "only seeing imaging anomalies" -- created by the computer imaging process which creates these MIMIC imaging products themselves.

To which I have an obvious question:

If this is truly the case -- if we are seeing in these striking geometric patterns only "computer glitches" in the data -- why was this crucial "technical disclaimer" ONLY added to the MIMIC site AFTER we called attention here to the striking "geometric signatures" appearing on certain hurricane images within the archive!?

http://www.enterprisemission.com/weblog/weblog.htm

[Et in Arcadia ego]

No answers there, but here's that bow shock thing I was talking about:

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... splay.html

You can clearly see Rita get 'pushed' over to the left in a way that appears very unnatural.