Impending Event Alert: Do you feel it?

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Postby OP ED » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:47 pm

FourthBase wrote:
I hope I am correct is assuming that the impending event vibes are psychic residue of induced global trauma combining with normal (programmed) late summer apprehension/anticipation innundated in most westerners by public schooling. That is, we've been psy-op-ed to associate feelings of impending doom with this time of year. Good for GOP politicks. Which is a polite way of saying that you're experiencing the after-effects of their (apparently) successful attempts to Control Your Mind.

free yourself, it is only Autumn coming.


Fucking YES, please be correct.

Don't think I never respected you OP ED, I most certainly do.


Well thank you. I hope I am correct. I feel it too, y'know. The sensation that the "other shoe is about to drop" so to speak. But I feel it every year at this time, and it seems to be only a more intense version of the same schoolyear apprehension they programmed in at an early age. So I do my best to ignore it, and to spend my time working against their current plans rather than worrying about their future goals.

And I wouldn't spend time arguing with you if I didn't think it was worth my time to do so. From me, this is probably among the stongest compliments one could receive. I believe you have great potential to further MY goals, that is, because our goals are more aligned than we are often likely to admit. We are both HERE after all.

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I'm with you...

Postby marmot » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:04 pm

Brighid_Moon wrote:Alright Marmot, I'm not going to argue with you. :) Neither am I going to argue with 10s of thousands of Dominionists who are teaching these things and trying to take over our country (and it appears may be going to succeed). I have a feeling you believe I am jumping on all Christians, which is not the case (I would never jump on all of anything) - only on those whom are dangerous, as I would any cult. Christianity is not immune to cult infiltration, and they still are technically Christian = re: worshipping Jesus Christ. I suggest doing some research into this phenomenon.


Brighid, I suspect I am with you on this in spirit. I hate the occult infiltration of the church with a righteous hatred... these destructive and ungodly ideologies apostate believers are being programmed and deceived with. I'm with you on jumping all over these false prophets and teachers and apostles; they are exceedingly dangerous, I agree.

I remember reading Gary North and the reconstructionists 18 some years ago. And I remember doing research on the dominionists and all the charismatic witchcraft cults they're related to some 12 years ago. And I never would have guessed they would have been able to gain the scope of power and momentum they have today. Even potentially being allowed to influence the vice presidency in Palin.

I am beginning again to do research into this, so thank you for all and any links you can provide me with.

2 Corinthians 11 wrote:13For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
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Postby marmot » Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:10 pm

OP ED wrote:But it is a silly assertion to say it "isn't a Christian belief" when there are millions of Christians who believe it, regardless of the evidence.


Maybe we're just quibbling over terms.

I'm not asserting that some authentic Christians don't believe all sorts of lies and even 'doctrines of demons.' The fact of the matter is they do. They are being led astray by false teachers. Just because a particular Christian or set of Christians (however small or large) believe something doesn't necessarily make it Christian. What is genuinely Christian is that which is of Christ. Christ objectively defines for us what is Christ-like, what is real and true. No one else, not even the devil himself can modify what is fundamentally true Christianity.

Now, if a professing Christian is found to be believing some sort of doctrine of demons, should we call his belief Christian. Not at all. There are orthodox beliefs and apostate beliefs all claiming to be Christian. I am asserting that if a doctrine is not Biblical it has no place in orthodox Christianity. Not everything that claims for itself to be Christian is Christian. There is truth and there is error.

The adversary loves it when true and false Christians do wicked things in the profession of Christianity. And with his twisted logic he wants the world to believe his Satanic false-flag activities are Christian, i.e. of Christ.


2 Thessalonians 2: wrote: 1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away [apostasy] comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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Postby nathan28 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:35 pm

@OP ED: good call on the "late summer angst." That is the second time i've seen in mentioned on the internets today. I actually am a type to look forward to cooler weather, but that might be my capricorn sun sign worker-bee nature... that and after working 10-15 hours a day throughout entire summers for a few years, you lose that "oh no its over " conditioning

Wombaticus Rex wrote:Has anyone dug into HalfPastHuman? I was checking them out a week ago, and although it sounded interesting, it mostly sounded like horseshit -- another version of the MERLIN Project Jeff has covered before.

I tend to stick with first impressions in a world of 6 billion humans, but if anyone has had a different experience, I'd like to know.


I actually read Urban Survival regularly for a long time. I still occasionally Ure's site to pick up on stories--his "Patriot movement" style puts him in touch with some stories (like the Minutemen) that the mainstream and even most of the internets hasn't caught onto yet. That said I stopped reading once he published his stock market performance, it was the final nail in his Lou Dobbs clone coffin for me.

I'm not sure what to make of halfpasthuman.com. it does seem like the poor man's Project MERLIN. It is an interesting concept, but frankly, I can get a sounder, more actionable reading out the I Ching than that wierd-ass internet exquisite corpse they put together. interesting idea though
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Postby 8bitagent » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:05 pm

anothershamus wrote:8bit wrote(quoting Hunter S.)

We have seen weird Times in this country before, but the year 2000 is beginning to look super weird. This time there really is nobody flying the plane ... We are living in dangerously weird times now. Smart people just shrug and admit they're dazed and confused. The only ones left with any confidence at all are the New Dumb. It is the beginning of the end of our world as we knew it. Doom is the operative ethic.


And boy I must have had the same batch as Hunter S. It was just about the turn of the millennium I lost my MOJO. All my confidence just went out the window.


Replace "2000" with "2008", and man does it seem like he's writing from the grave about right now.

The "New Dumb"=voting in Arnold, voting in Mccain/Palin, all as the wolrd burns and WWF wrestling, football, reality tv, celebrity worship, NASCAR and mindless fluff continues.
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Re: Satanic conspiracy

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:10 pm

marmot wrote:
8bitagent wrote:People in conspiracy world talk a lot about "government/CIA/Pentagon spook psyops", not realizing above that is spiritual spook psyops.

What you describe, as crushingly bizarre to some, sounds entirely plausible. This is why I absolutely believe events such as 9/11 are designed very specifically as a dark spiritual operation and reverberation.

Gary North wrote:There is one conspiracy, Satan's and ultimately it must fail, Satan's supernatural conspiracy is the conspiracy; all other visible conspiracies are merely outworkings of this supernatural conspiracy. from Conspiracy: a biblical view; p.27

Above, Gary North describes the spiritual worldview for bible believing Christians. I should note that I seriously disagree with Gary North's reconstructionist theology. Sadly, his work has done much to legitimize the Kingdom Now and Dominionist movements like Joel's (occultic) Army. However, his quote, I thought, was worth quoting.


Ephesians 6:12 wrote:For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places...



Heh...well there's a lot of tinpot dictators out there who hate Bush and the West, that doesn't mean I'm going to start supporting them:)

I don't think the fundies, dominionists, evangelicals, ect realize that if there is a Satanic conspiracy...they are front and center part of it.
Revelation of the method.

I don't have to be a Democrat or any party to know the Bush administration is bad news...likewise, I don't have to be a Christian or even believe in any faith(Abrahamic or not) to have an inkling of what's really going on.
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Postby zhivkov » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:49 pm

I am hoping like hell that OP ED is correct! Saying this however-even though I am not an oldster at 43-I have sensed since the beginning of 2008 a kind of "subdued panic" in the air. My psychic senses if I have any are not the best in the world but every time I try to convince myself that it is all just me it seems like in a day or two something happens that tells me it isn't just me-just today at the mailbox I talked with a lady who has lived in this complex for 9 yrs-she has heard of 2 other residents within the last 2 days getting laid off from jobs they had held a long time.Again not exactly old but I have just never felt these vibes like this before or whatever you want to call them.
And talk about the "new dumb"-even though my sentence structure use of commas etc has always been horrific I have always been an excellent speller-in this post I had to look up the word "beginning" it looked wrong to me I was spelling it with one n and could not figure out why it looked wrong! Is it something in the water? Thanks to all for this excellent thread and the Thompson post and all of the other links.
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Re: My recurring dream

Postby slimmouse » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:06 pm

norton ash wrote:
There is a benign unstoppable force of love and consciousness. And this old world is a racket. We need to take ourselves outside and talk like lovers or children or dogs do... we don't need this shit, we belong to something better.


This is an amazing thread, and to me this is the highlight :)
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Postby Searcher08 » Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:42 am

I didn't expect this...

Last night's dream

I am with a friend from my old workplace. We are undertaking a form of timetravel, which places the person *physically* back into the past. It is a combination of research and adventure; the adventure is *being there* - apparently many people can and do die during this - they just dont come back... one of the side effects is that when you do this, you lose a lot of the memories of the knowledge of what actually happened, the memories become like a Swiss Cheese.

The dream was multi-sensory - it was as real as 'normal' reality; I have had lucid dreams, where there is an awareness of dreaming, but with this, it was an awareness that I was NOT dreaming, that I was physically time-travelling and that I could experience physical death if it went wrong.


We do not know where we are
Myself and a friend from a previous job are standing in front of a huge lift in a huge office block.
We got the lift to near the top of the building; when the doors opened, it revealed a big open plan office. It was quite quiet, and we sensed that many people had not come in yet.

We then remembered - the place we had decided to go was the WTC. Near the top of one of the Towers.
On September 11th , 2001

I knew there was an important piece of information - that no-one survived above where the plane crashed in the North tower but I couldn't work out which Tower we were in. If we were in the North tower, we would be in extreme danger.

We looked at the people and realised that probably everyone we were looking at was going to die a pretty horrible death. My friend looked at me as if she was about to freak - she said "they are all dead - we are looking at a a floor full of people who are going to die" and it was as if they were already marked, just waiting to be harvested - and they didn't even know it.
Then I realised we had to get out of there. I felt something coming towards the Tower. It wasn't just a plane, it was something the plane was carrying, something that was pure evil, as though a weapon test, some bizarre physical union between spiritual/emotional evil and technology.
I intuited we were about 25-30 stories above where the plane would crash, then intuited it was the North Tower. There seemed to be a problem with the lifts. I looked at my friend in horror...


then sat bolt upright, back in 2008
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Re: My recurring dream

Postby Penguin » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:10 am

slimmouse wrote:
norton ash wrote:
There is a benign unstoppable force of love and consciousness. And this old world is a racket. We need to take ourselves outside and talk like lovers or children or dogs do... we don't need this shit, we belong to something better.


This is an amazing thread, and to me this is the highlight :)


Hugs and kisses, fellow being! Ill go babble some lovely inanities to my animal friends...
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Postby anothershamus » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:22 pm

nat28 wrote
I actually read Urban Survival regularly for a long time.


nat28, you might like cryptogon.com for alt. economics

and wombat wrote:

Has anyone dug into HalfPastHuman?

I know that the halfpast human is sketchy but they do seem to data mine with as little contamination as possible.

I have yet to see 'proof' but I think the theory is interesting. There is a level of interpretation that bothers me because it is not as objective as is could be, with regard to whomever is making the cut of info. (I probably could have said that better)

The Princeton egg project is similar without the meme's just 1s and 0s.
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Postby FourthBase » Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:25 pm

WOW @ Searcher's dream. :shock:
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Postby Alfred Joe's Boy » Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:49 pm

FourthBase wrote:WOW @ Searcher's dream. :shock:

Speaking of "WOW" reminded me of this incident:

Wow! signal
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The WOW! Signal
Credit: The Ohio State University Radio Observatory and the North American AstroPhysical Observatory (NAAPO).The Wow! signal was a strong, narrowband radio signal detected by Dr. Jerry R. Ehman on August 15, 1977, while working on a SETI project at the Big Ear radio telescope of the Ohio State University. The signal bore expected hallmarks of potential non-terrestrial and non-solar system origin. It lasted for 72 seconds, the full duration Big Ear observed it, but has not been detected again. It has been the focus of attention in the mainstream media when talking about SETI results.

Amazed at how closely the signal matched the expected signature of an interstellar signal in the antenna used, Ehman circled the signal on the computer printout and wrote the comment "Wow!" on its side. This comment became the name of the signal.

Contents [hide]
1 Technical details
2 Searches for recurrence of the signal
3 Speculations on the origin
4 Location of the signal
5 See also
6 References
7 External links



[edit] Technical details
The circled letter code 6EQUJ5 describes the intensity variation of the signal. A space denotes an intensity between 0 and 0.999.., the numbers 1-9 denote the correspondingly numbered intensities (from 1.000 to 9.999...), and intensities of 10.0 and above are denoted by a letter ('A' corresponds to intensities between 10.0 and 10.999..., 'B' to 11.0 to 11.999..., etc). The value 'U' (an intensity between 30.0 and 30.999...) was the highest ever detected by the telescope. The intensity in this case is the unitless signal-to-noise ratio, where noise was averaged for that band over the previous few minutes. [1]

The bandwidth of the signal is less than 10 kHz (each column on the printout corresponds to a 10 kHz-wide channel; the signal is only present in one column). Two different values for its frequency have been given: 1420.356 MHz (J. D. Kraus) and 1420.456 MHz (J. R. Ehman), both at 50 kHz of the frequency of the hydrogen line, which is at 1420.406 MHz. Two possible equatorial coordinates are given:

R.A. = 19h22m22s ± 5s
R.A. = 19h25m12s ± 5s
Both coordinates give dec. = -27°03´ ± 20´ (epoch B1950.0).[2]

The Big Ear telescope was fixed and used the rotation of the Earth to scan the sky. At the speed of the earth's rotation, and given the width of the Big Ear's observation "window", the Big Ear could observe any given point for just 72 seconds. An extraterrestrial signal, therefore, would be expected to register for exactly 72 seconds, and the recorded intensity of that signal would show a gradual peaking for the first 36 seconds -- until the signal reached the center of Big Ear's observation "window" -- at which time it would show a gradual decrease.

Therefore, both the length of the Wow! signal, 72 seconds, and its shape would correspond to a possible extraterrestrial origin.[3]


[edit] Searches for recurrence of the signal
The Big Ear telescope used two feed horns to search for signals, each pointing to a slightly different direction in the sky following Earth's rotation; the Wow! signal was detected in one of the horns but not in the other, although the data was processed in such a way that it is impossible to determine in which of the two horns the signal entered. In any case, the signal was expected to appear a mere three minutes apart in each of the horns, but this did not happen.[3] Ehman unsuccessfully looked for recurrences of the signal using Big Ear in the month after the detection.[4]

In 1987 and 1989, Robert Gray searched for the event using the META array at Oak Ridge Observatory, but did not re-detect it.[4]

In 1995 and 1996, Gray also searched for the signal using the Very Large Array, which is significantly more powerful than Big Ear.[4]

Gray and Dr. Simon Ellingsen later searched for recurrences of the event in 1999 using the University of Tasmania's Hobart 26m radio telescope.[5] Six 14-hour observations were made at positions in the vicinity, but did not detect anything similar to the Wow signal.[3]


[edit] Speculations on the origin
It has been speculated that interstellar scintillation of a weaker continuous signal — similar, in effect, to atmospheric twinkling—could be a possible explanation, although this still would not exclude the possibility of the signal being artificial in its nature. However, even by using the significantly more sensitive Very Large Array, such a signal could not be detected, and the probability that a signal below the Very Large Array level could be detected by the Big Ear radio telescope due to interstellar scintillation is low.[4] Other speculations include a rotating lighthouse-like source, a signal sweeping in frequency, or a one time burst.

Ehman has stated his doubts that the signal is of intelligent extraterrestrial origin: "We should have seen it again when we looked for it 50 times. Something suggests it was an Earth-sourced signal that simply got reflected off a piece of space debris."[6]

He later recanted his skepticism somewhat after further research scientifically relegated an Earth-bound signal to be astronomically unlikely, due to the requirements of a space-borne reflector being bound to certain unrealistic requirements to sufficiently explain the nature of the signal. Also, the 1420 MHz signal is problematic in itself in that it is "protected spectrum" or bandwidth in which terrestrial transmitters are forbidden to transmit.[7][8] In his most recent writings, Ehman resists "drawing vast conclusions from half-vast data."


[edit] Location of the signal
The location of the signal in celestial coordinates was, at (epoch J2000.0)

Right Ascension (On the positive horn): 19h25m31s ± 10s

Right Ascension (On the negative horn): 19h28m22s ± 10s

Declination (Is the same for both horns): -26d57m ± 20m

This region of the sky lies in the constellation Sagittarius, roughly 2.5 degrees south of the fifth-magnitude star Chi-1 Sagittarii.


[edit] See also
Quasar CTA 102, believed by Dr. Nikolai S. Kardashev to have an alien signal encoded in it.
LGM-1

[edit] References
^ Ehman, Jerry. "Explanation of the Code "6EQUJ5" On the Wow! Computer Printout". Retrieved on 2006-06-12.
^ Gray, Robert; Kevin Marvel (2001). "A VLA Search for the Ohio State 'Wow'". The Astrophysical Journal 546 (2): 1171–1177. doi:10.1086/318272.
^ a b c Shostak, Seth (2002-12-05). "Interstellar Signal From the 70s Continues to Puzzle Researchers", Space.com.
^ a b c d Alexander, Amir (2001-01-17). "The 'Wow!' Signal Still Eludes Detection", The Planetary Society.
^ Gray, Robert (2002). "A Search for Periodic Emissions at the Wow Locale". The Astrophysical Journal 578 (2): 967–971. doi:10.1086/342646.
^ Kawa, Barry (1994-09-18). "The Wow! signal", Cleveland Plain Dealer. Retrieved on 2006-06-12.
^ "Frequencies Allocated to Radio Astronomy Used by the DSN", NASA.
^ Committee on Radio Astronomy Frequencies Handbook for Radio Astronomy, European Science Foundation, 3rd edition, 2005, p. 101.

[edit] External links
Ehman, J. R. (2007). The Big Ear Wow! Signal (30th Anniversary Report)
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Postby Sounder » Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:56 pm

Erosoplier wrote…

I think 9/11 was built to last - they're going to be milking it for a long time yet.

I can't think of any desire of the elite which would require another major event to bring it to fruition. Minor shenanigans maybe, but we are currently as pwned as humanly possible - there's no need for any further action in the short/medium term.


I think along these lines, figuring that history plays out on its own time. Also what OP ED said; excellent. I prefer to distrust senses of foreboding, but wierd stuff happened to me yesterday.

I was on the computer and turned around to look out a second story window. On the ground about ten feet from the house is a dead duck. Full grown, big, on its back with the legs sticking up. OK, that’s odd; I guess I have a duck to bury later. I’m pretty sure it was dead as I looked at it for a couple of minutes. I go back to other stuff and look out an hour later and the duck is gone. OK, fine; a coon came and got it, no big deal. Then I go golfing in the rain with my polish cousin. We go to a course near his parent’s cemetery so that he can check to see that the newly engraved marker was done properly. After much ado in the rain because my cousin could not find the marker, we get up to it, reflect a bit, and I notice on the edge of my vision, a headstone with my birthday on it. Not the year, just the month and day. So I walked over and also noticed that the young man had been born And had died on my birthday, Edmond T Roland had lived for only 21 years. RIP Edmond.
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cool dream

Postby marmot » Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:56 pm

FourthBase wrote:WOW @ Searcher's dream. :shock:


Don't you just love those sort of dreams?
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