One Giant Leap ... for Conspiramedia?

[pugzleyca3]

This whole thing reminds me of a couple of teenagers deciding to play a prank on someone, then they sit back and laugh at how stupid they made the victim/s look.

I doubt this will even make a blip on msm. Other than msm now having another opportunity to call Sheen and Jones nutcases, what's new about that? Or if someone slick comes in and covers it, they might even get to the meat of this deal and make an issue of how gullible the readers of those websites really are and how deceptive this entire "prank" is.

This is not the first deceptive thing Jones has done, his website dupes people daily with the ads that look like real news stories, causing a lot of pointless clicking for people who are genuinely looking for answers.

Jones just made asses out of a whole bunch of his loyal followers by not putting that disclaimer on that article. Accident? I doubt it. When that is the jist of the whole thing, that it never happened, how could you "forget" to inform people about that? Oh, to be so sloppy and still succeed in life and business...

Frankly, Jones no longer has any credibility as far as I am concerned, hasn't for quite a while now.

[RocketMan]

Upon further reflection, I think that the worst thing that could actually happen would be for Charlie Sheen to GET than damned 20 minutes with Obama.

[8bitagent]

And these tactics are likely to get Obama to address 9-11 questions!!?

Good on Sheen, I guess, because it's bad for his career to be associated with 9-11 so it takes some courage, or it did... a long time ago when HE ALREADY DID THIS.

Personally I wouldn't get anyone other than a scientist to go after evidence and no one less than a professional investigative historian to go after the other 9-11 stuff and Sheen is neither.

Well exactly. And again I ask, whats the news? This stunt seems like just the usual thing on AJ's show.

This is the ultimate in boy who cried wolf(one too many times)

And man, look at the typical commenters on any prisonplanet article,
its either "How do we know Obama isnt a Jewww?" or "If Alex declares a revolution, I got my gun!" Sometimes I wonder if a lot of the AJ footsoldiers online simply swallow repeated talking points like the Beck/Rush crowd instead of doing critical thinking.

Its a shame that a lot of the readers of CrooksandLiars, Dkos, Huffpo and Firedoglake seem very unfriendly to real 9/11 discussion or deep deep politics, because they definitely seem smarter and more informed

He just played all his readers as fools. That disclaimer should be at the top AND it wasn't even there when they originally posted the "article".

Yeah it seems they added that later, and scrubbed the volumnous "its a fake" comments that flooded in right after.

This joins the ranks of that young army guy who claimed to have heard a "stand down" at Cent Com(hoax), or the guy who claimed to have seen a UAV drone hit the pentagon(hoax) or many other guests hes had who got to weave their fake stories that were sold as "authentic".

[8bitagent]

Now AJ's saying, this is like a poison pill

It's funny how revealing people are.

Like when Bush said a "cult of evil" was responsible for 9/11, or when he said were in Iraq to "bring chaos...err, uh I mean order, order out of chaos"

[Sweejak]

I don't really feel like doing this and consider it halfway OT but let me add a bit of perspective aside from the aforementioned Counterpunch Senor article by Ron Jacobs and the recent Anti-war one.

And that is the spiked GQ story about the Russian 9-11, and what I want to do is paste what a long time NYT reporter said (which was generally accepted by others in the business)

... my first thought when I heard the piece. Otherwise, GQ's actions make no sense: either you don't run the story, you let it run somewhere else, or you just run it like normal. The only way to generate *this* much buzz is to ... well, do what they did.

Not as convinced it's part of some larger plot or meme (plenty of things happened in Russia/SU in Aug/early Sept, so there are plenty of anniversaries to stir up the waters *without* any sort of conspiracy), but I am convinced they did it for the publicity.

So that's a likely publicity stunt, but the article itself, while nothing new, was not an outright invention AFIK.

I think we've probably all been screwed by some story, forwarded it and commented on it only to be sent a Snopes url in response. I hate it when that happens.

I was so pissed at the Counterpunch thing that I stayed away for a long time but eventually came to put them back on my feeds, I expect Jones' fans will do the same.

[Percival]

Jones just said "Anyone who disagrees with this tactic is "CO-INTEL PRO"

[Sweejak]

Implosion.

[pugzleyca3]

"Jones just said "Anyone who disagrees with this tactic is "CO-INTEL PRO" "

What an arrogant fucker he is.

[happenstance]

It seems to me that the film Pump up the Volume was timed perfectly to initiate the young masses into the internet.

When I saw the film, I was intrigued by pirate radio and did some research. It is quite an interesting subject, and I discussed the idea of a station with some friends. we quickly realized that the primary problem is one of content. Not quality, but quantity. Try coming up with even a few hours of original content each day without resorting to just playing music. Imagine having to keep it up every day. I suggested that we would need a small community of content providers. Like this forum, for example.

Any surge of interest propelled by the film was funneled into the 'net, where we pay to provide the content. Pretty slick. Unlike traditional media, the internet is largely anonymous. The paranoid types may believe that this serves them some advantage, though the opposite is true. The PTB can easily identify even 'net savvy types, while the silent majority are propagandized by anonymous agents, and the brave activists are pummeled by sociopathic predators.

I was struck by the use of the word "activist" at PP. The truth is, anyone watching the Alex Jones clown show and the myriad others of it's ilk, are about as far from activism as they can get. Inactivists would be a more apt description.

Yes! Great thoughts. I rewatched Pump Up The Volume awhile back and thought, "My golly Jones must have seen this at a tender age."

[jingofever]

The media is jumping all over this latest Charlie Sheen news: Charlie Sheen to cameo in Oliver Stone's Wall Street 2: Money Never Sleeps. Bud Fox is back! Can't wait!

[compared2what?]

When most the "anti establishment/anti Bush" liberals in America even hate the truthers: mission accomplished.

It would make me so happy if we could supplement that "mission accomplished" with "and lesson learned."

I mean, if we mock and condemn the MSM for the routine and inevitable chorus of "Who could have predicted...?" they sing every fucking time some utterly predictable massacre, breakdown or collapse they forgot to predict at any point between when they first started happily playing with the sparkly giftwrap and free Crackerjack toys that came with that massacre/breakdown/collapse when it was still a mint-in-box ticking timebomb fresh from the mailroom right up until it exploded -- and usually for a few months after that, too -- then the last thing we want to do is emulate them.

Right?

I say: Boycott. Total. Zero tolerance for bad men and obstructors of justice. Take the pledge today.
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ON EDIT: added quote from post to which I was responding, owing to the page of comments that sprang up while I was typing it and talking on the phone and otherwise passing the time on, you know, stuff.

Nothing personal, though, 8bit. Yours just happened to be the last post on the thread when I opened it.

[Jeff]

Hey Man Nice Shot

[Percival]

Hey Man Nice Shot

[JackRiddler]

Sometimes I wonder if a lot of the AJ footsoldiers online simply swallow repeated talking points like the Beck/Rush crowd instead of doing critical thinking.

You wonder?

[StarmanSkye]

Esp. lately, I wonder whether and how Jones is being played by a psyop/disinfo faction itself manipulated by the global cartel. The CIA thru running Al Qaeda has shown its expertise in managing many if not all different 'sides' and factions of the neoliberal, warmongering, hegemonic, post Cold War, et al conflicts, managing both allies and adversaries so as to better achieve its goal of Full Spectrum Dominance. It may be that Jones himself doesn't even know he's being used to delegitimize, distract, and defang the anti-war and 911 Truth movements. Jones has a lot of good guests but he usually gets in the way of facilitating critical thinking and the exchange of important ideas. Just the Alex Jones brand is enough to discredit a lot of what he and those associated with him have to say. It seems to me, that can hardly just be a coincidence.

Jones had the gall to claim on his Sunday show that as he was the originator of the 911 Truth Movement, he was its premiere spokesperson.

I don't imagine that went down real well with a lot of people involved in the movement.

And god, I absolutely hate his voice, its like rusty nails through a PA system on 9+ with a bad mic, frayed cord with loose connections and a lot of feedback.