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8bitagent wrote:
I mean...folks...even John Pilger, Naomi Klein, Noam Chomsky and Jeremy Scahill are convinced of the official story and think 9/11 theories are distracting. That's pretty alarming.
wintler2 wrote:You're not making any sense to me, 82_28 - wikileaks is not creating a market for leaks, nor is Assenge a publicity hog. Your 'wikileaks is an attack on the freedom of the internet' stuff is pure Alex Jones and, with no substantiation, is juvenile at best.
and that I was hopeful and skeptical at the same time.
Montag wrote:8bitagent wrote:
I mean...folks...even John Pilger, Naomi Klein, Noam Chomsky and Jeremy Scahill are convinced of the official story and think 9/11 theories are distracting. That's pretty alarming.
Yeah, it's pretty impressive what ridicule can accomplish. People like this IMO are afraid. Just like academicians (of which Chomsky is one) progressive public intellectuals fear for their reputations too. I have much more respect for people like Peter Dale Scott, Jim Marrs, Michel Chossudovsky, Webster Tarpley, Michael Parenti, even Alexander Cockburn (who has researched some deep political stuff even though he believes the fairy tale of 9/11).
pengu (in another thread) wrote:And the people dissing Wikileaks - could you at least support your disapproval with something tangible?
All Ive seen so far is dislike of Assange's personality. Of course I am always skeptical, but so far, Wikileaks track record has been pretty good. Never mind the resources aimed at smearing and silencing them, and of course they will most likely be the target of far worse yet.
Joe Hillshoist wrote:pengu (in another thread) wrote:And the people dissing Wikileaks - could you at least support your disapproval with something tangible?
All Ive seen so far is dislike of Assange's personality. Of course I am always skeptical, but so far, Wikileaks track record has been pretty good. Never mind the resources aimed at smearing and silencing them, and of course they will most likely be the target of far worse yet.
Yeah, something tangible please.
BTW Anyone been through the wikileaks 9/11 stuff yet?
82_28 wrote:No, it is to discredit, in eventuality, the free flow of ideas period. At least in a global nature. "Something must be done". It will be soon. Something is up and I fear something very big is coming that will make all of our fleeting conversations on the web completely impossible in a short manner of time.
All of the above, comes with the territory. Here we are. No Joe Blow is going to delve into that "wikileak" and say, oh damn, jesus christ, we been gettin' lied to.
That actually says more about "Joe Blow" than it does about wikileaks.
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