Joplin suffers 'direct hit' from tornado; 'major damage'

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Re: Joplin suffers 'direct hit' from tornado; 'major damage'

Postby Nordic » Thu May 26, 2011 10:02 pm

well i would guess that he ground based radar is more accurate as to whether or not there are actually raindrops falling, which is why those images are allowed to take precedence over the satellite image, which bases an assumtion of precip based on temperature. that is why they appear as "punch-outs" and that is why they are devoid of precip. you're seeing pockets of the "calm before the storm"
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Re: Joplin suffers 'direct hit' from tornado; 'major damage'

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu May 26, 2011 10:05 pm

stoneonstone wrote:I am not saying what the mechanism is, but I am observing phenomenon before and after events, trying to see commonality. And I have. It is aberrant. That's why I posted on this, and keep capturing frames. A few odd times, well, why would I bother your great brains. What I'm seeing now...well, maybe you have theories.


What theories do you have then?

I am struggling to see a relationship between the anaomolies you observe and the severe weather.

If you have some directions to go looking or whatever, point us in them.
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Re: Joplin suffers 'direct hit' from tornado; 'major damage'

Postby justdrew » Thu May 26, 2011 10:13 pm

82_28 wrote:
Nordic wrote:these particular kind of composite maps are pretty new. that's why you haven't seen them before. it takes some heavy duty computing power just to put one of these together. such computing power didn't exist until recently.

And 82, lets try to keep this place Rigorous Intuition, not non-rigorous SUPERstition.


What was superstitious about that? I said, in essence, if you gathered all the cellphones ever made in one place, plugged them in and turned them on and directed that energy, wouldn't that be the same thing as what is in question here? And even if it hasn't been done, it is obvious the technological and engineering prowess of Planet Earth 2011 would be capable of doing so simply because it has already been done but is distributed for the use of communication. Not "distributed" in the sense of each cell phone out there is part of a "microwave master plan", but that the factories have turned out the needed power already, distributed it and could also do the same amount of industrial production for something far more powerful and for other purposes.


currently there are approximately 4.3 billion 'users' worldwide, so in the total history of 'modern' post-1980 cellphones, lets estimate a total of 10 billion handsets. An average max emitted power of 3 watts each. all together a peak output of 30 gigawatts would be conceivable.

a site I thought folks here would use more, WeatherUnderground :wink: is fairly good. when these anomalies are seen, the radar data should be compared with here:
http://www.wunderground.com/radar/map.asp
that map shows you the location of each nexrad station and let's you zoom in on just its (non-composited) imagery. You can also zoom out to a regional view.

here's a map of the 'regions'
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do the anomalies tend to show up in areas on the boarders of regions?

notice that the regions overlap. if one region's dataset has been refreshed, and the other is for some reason old (due to it's data not having been reported in time) when the software makes the national composite, and region sets data is out of synch that would lead to areas in overlap presenting different data, which could be leading to the compositing-algorithm creating these artifacts. and not only regions overlap. but stations, which may even interfere with each other on occasion? anyway, it's a theory. I wouldn't be surprised if there may be some more data errors or timing issues, or stations dropping off-line periodically these days. In all likelihood the system has been left to degrade due to mismanagement and funding cuts over the last decade.


another theory... remember there used to be cases where there would be a positive anomalies (as opposed to these which seem negative in that they seem to show an area of lack of returns), something weird showing up as returns, patterns, strange shapes. Explanations were given for these. It could be that now when they detect an error that'll give rise to an odd shape in the radar 'composite picture' - rather than display it, they're blanking the data rather than showing it. So it could just be down to new error handling routines.

http://www.wunderground.com/radar/help.asp
Ground Clutter, Anomalous Propagation, and Other False Echoes

Echoes from objects like buildings and hills appear in almost all radar reflectivity images. This "ground clutter" generally appears within a radius of 25 miles of the radar as a roughly circular region with a random pattern. An mathematical algorithm can be applied to the radar data to remove echoes where the echo intensity changes rapidly in an unrealistic fashion. These "No Clutter" images are available on the web site. Use these images with caution; ground clutter removal techniques can remove some real echoes, too.

Under highly stable atmospheric conditions (typically on calm, clear nights), the radar beam can be refracted almost directly into the ground at some distance from the radar, resulting in an area of intense-looking echoes. This "anomalous propagation " phenomenon (commonly known as AP) is much less common than ground clutter. Certain sites situated at low elevations on coastlines regularly detect "sea return", a phenomenon similar to ground clutter except that the echoes come from ocean waves.

Radar returns from birds, insects, and aircraft are also rather common. Echoes from migrating birds regularly appear during nighttime hours between late February and late May, and again from August through early November. Return from insects is sometimes apparent during July and August. The apparent intensity and areal coverage of these features is partly dependent on radio propagation conditions, but they usually appear within 30 miles of the radar and produce reflectivities of <30 dBZ.

However, during the peaks of the bird migration seasons, in April and early September, extensive areas of the south-central U.S. may be covered by such echoes. Finally, aircraft often appear as "point targets" far from the radar.
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Re: Joplin suffers 'direct hit' from tornado; 'major damage'

Postby eyeno » Fri May 27, 2011 2:17 am

Joe Hillshoist wrote:
eyeno wrote:I'm equally as willing to believe this crazy weather and earthquake uptick is a symptom of the Sun aligning itself with the Milky Way in 2012. Or a combination of both 2012 and human manipulation. Or neither. I'm just a fascinated observer throwing potential patterns I may see against the wall for inspection.


Keep doing that.

If people disagree it doesn't mean its something personal.

The VLF tower at Exmouth had a 3 Megawatt output iirc. I had a friend tell me that fishing in the Gulf at Exmouth you could feel the buzz of electricity (like some people feel the buzz of powerlines in the air, or the buzz in a storm if lightning is gonna strike nearby) yet they were at least 1.5 km offshore. This would have been the mid 90s.

This guy had a heart attack within 2 years. He was in his mid 20s, very fit, a non smoker etc etc. I knew him years later, he'd recovered, and was still very fit. He wasn't sure if he put his heart attack down to getting too close to the antenna when it was firing up or to genetic factors.





The two police were taken the next day to a point half way to the Paraburdoo town site (Residents here also saw the fireballs to their north that night) - located some 50km south of Tom Price. The police were briefed by officials on what had occurred and thereafter refused to discuss the evenings events.

Being a small town with few inhabitants and pretty lonely if the other residents cold shoulder you one policeman later admitted that he would like to say what it was all about but had been ordered to keep his mouth shut and it was more than his job and life were worth to say more.

The residents of Tom Price discussed these events for days, but attempts to go public on Perth TV were met with last minute cancellation amid ridicule and loony epithets - after Channel 7 actually paid airfares for two resident eye-witnesses to fly to Perth.

Many residents had noticed that the fireballs had flown from the direction of the Exmouth Peninsular US "Radio Communications" base. Many suspect that there is a secret underground part to this base which contains large peculiar aerial systems at ground level.

It was later found out that the Dampier power station (150km north of Tom Price) went off line at the time of the Tom Price fireballs due to a huge overvoltage pulse on the transmission lines.

Residents of this district have commonly seen, or even been followed by bright white lights whilst traversing roads at night near the coast and the Exmouth base area. These lights move at low or high speed, at low or high altitude, and commonly alter course.

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Re: Joplin suffers 'direct hit' from tornado; 'major damage'

Postby Nordic » Fri May 27, 2011 2:22 am

Reminds me of this:

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Flourescent tubes, stuck in the ground. Connected to nothing. Lit up by the EMF energy in the AIR from the high-voltage powerlines passing overhead.
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Re: Joplin suffers 'direct hit' from tornado; 'major damage'

Postby eyeno » Fri May 27, 2011 2:41 am

Another snip from the same article about Exmouth. Sounds like they have a huge Tesla Coil built there.

Tower zero is encased in wood/asbestos sheeting to form a very high enclosed oblong box, it has a two man elevator running up the inside of the tower - the top inner aerial shape is surrounded by a larger enclosed box.

The aerial array utilized enormous quantities of copper tube and wire "ground counterpoise" arrays buried in the ground under the entire complex.

Access into the hill side tunnel opening takes one into a large (at least three story) underground section at the base of Tower Zero. Here is something like the innards of a giant "transistor radio" with a huge heavy duty copper wire coil some 50 feet high and 15 feet in diameter - all supported on hard wood (Jarrah) frames fixed with wooden (Jarrah) nuts and bolts !!! Sections are lined with stainless steel sheeting. There may be further and deeper sections under the copper coil which were not seen by this witness.

There is a large power station (possibly running on gas from bore holes into a nearby large natural gas reservoir).

Although officially recently handed over by the US Navy to Australian Navy control the base still has many US "consultants" who live in the nearby town of Exmouth. The Jarrah fittings and copper coil in Tower Zero were installed in 1968, after the main building contractor teams had left the facility.

Supposedly this Exmouth Tx site is transmitting vlf or elf E/M radio messages to submarines. However this eyewitness description of the underground wooden frame and giant coil is a dead give away. It perfectly describes major elements of Tesla's Wardenclyffe, Long Island, and the earlier Colorado Springs research versions, Magnifying Energy Transmitters. The wooden construction is required to handle very high voltages and very high frequencies (possibly as high as microwave band frequencies) by containing the induced coil electrostatic wave from discharge to ground - it is NOT needed to handle very low frequencies (vlf), or extremely low frequencies (elf).

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Re: Joplin suffers 'direct hit' from tornado; 'major damage'

Postby justdrew » Fri May 27, 2011 3:44 am

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Re: Joplin suffers 'direct hit' from tornado; 'major damage'

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri May 27, 2011 5:42 am

eyeno wrote:Another snip from the same article about Exmouth. Sounds like they have a huge Tesla Coil built there.

Some of Harry Mason's Nexus series quoted by that scammer Tom bearden


I know it might sound like I'm having a go at you, but really I'm not. Bearden is full of it.

You might want to read this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19248
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Re: Joplin suffers 'direct hit' from tornado; 'major damage'

Postby eyeno » Fri May 27, 2011 1:27 pm

Joe Hillshoist wrote:
eyeno wrote:Another snip from the same article about Exmouth. Sounds like they have a huge Tesla Coil built there.

Some of Harry Mason's Nexus series quoted by that scammer Tom bearden


I know it might sound like I'm having a go at you, but really I'm not. Bearden is full of it.

You might want to read this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19248


Thanx. Read it. Yes Bearden is a bit of an enigma and I am not sure exactly where I stand on Bearden. I tried to read a couple of his books a couple of years back but they were so dense with technical jargon it almost left me cross eyed.
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Re: Joplin suffers 'direct hit' from tornado; 'major damage'

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri May 27, 2011 8:05 pm

I probably gave up on him when I read his claim that some scalar tech worked by mapping space time as a 4(+)d matrix then using interferometers to collapse "time" to generate energy with which to power massive EM weaponry. That was 7 years ago at least.

He then went on to speculate that one of the reasons contrails were now persistent was that Time energy was being drained around them... (wtf?) they stayed in place cos time wasn't happening there, but it was in other places. I think that was the last thing I ever bothered reading on his website.
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Re: Joplin suffers 'direct hit' from tornado; 'major damage'

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri May 27, 2011 8:13 pm

eyeno wrote:Thanx. Read it. Yes Bearden is a bit of an enigma and I am not sure exactly where I stand on Bearden. I tried to read a couple of his books a couple of years back but they were so dense with technical jargon it almost left me cross eyed.


i think thats how he works. he just packs dense technical stuff into his work till you can't follow it. Then he can count on most people not checking thru his stuff with the fine tooth comb it needs.
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Re: Joplin suffers 'direct hit' from tornado; 'major damage'

Postby Jeff » Sat May 28, 2011 1:27 am

Mercy St. John's ER Doctor recounts tornado hitting Joplin hospital

May. 27, 2011

My name is Dr. Kevin Kikta, and I was one of two emergency room doctors who were on duty at St. John’s Regional Medical Center in Joplin, MO on Sunday, May 22, 2011.

...

“Like a bomb went off. ” That’s the only way that I can describe what we saw next.

Patients were coming into the ED in droves. It was absolute, utter chaos. They were limping, bleeding, crying, terrified, with debris and glass sticking out of them, just thankful to be alive.

The floor was covered with about 3 inches of water, there was no power, not even backup generators, rendering it completely dark and eerie in the ED.

The frightening aroma of methane gas leaking from the broken gas lines permeated the air; we knew, but did not dare mention aloud, what that meant. I redoubled my pace.

We had to use flashlights to direct ourselves to the crying and wounded.

Where did all the flashlights come from? I’ll never know, but immediately, and thankfully, my years of training in emergency procedures kicked in.

There was no power, but our mental generators were up and running, and on high test adrenaline. We had no cell phone service in the first hour, so we were not even able to call for help and backup in the ED.

I remember a patient in his early 20’s gasping for breath, telling me that he was going to die.

After a quick exam, I removed the large shard of glass from his back, made the clinical diagnosis of a pneumothorax (collapsed lung) and gathered supplies from wherever I could locate them to insert a thoracostomy tube in him.

He was a trooper; I’ll never forget his courage. He allowed me to do this without any local anesthetic since none could be found. With his life threatening injuries I knew he was running out of time, and it had to be done. Quickly.

Imagine my relief when I heard a big rush of air, and breath sounds again; fortunately, I was able to get him transported out.

...


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Re: Joplin suffers 'direct hit' from tornado; 'major damage'

Postby Stephen Morgan » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:56 am

Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that all was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, and make it possible. -- Lawrence of Arabia
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Re: Joplin suffers 'direct hit' from tornado; 'major damage'

Postby 82_28 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:52 am

^^^Let me just file the first WTF?!?!?!

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Re: Joplin suffers 'direct hit' from tornado; 'major damage'

Postby 82_28 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:12 pm

(Reuters) - Health officials say flying debris from the tornado that tore through Joplin, Missouri, last month is to blame for an outbreak of a rare but serious -- and in some cases deadly -- fungal infection among some of the more than 900 people injured in the disaster.

Soil or plant matter on debris that penetrated the skin of some of the people who survived the twister is believed to have caused them to contract an infection called zygomycosis, said Uwe Schmidt, an infectious diseases physician at Freeman Health System in Joplin.

Schmidt said he knows of at least nine patients who have had the infection in the weeks since the disaster. Three or four of them died and he said zygomycosis was a factor, if not the actual cause.

"It's definitely quite striking," Schmidt told Reuters. "To have so many cases of this is rather rare."

He said he had previously only seen two cases of zygomycosis in his career.


The May 22 tornado cut a six-mile swath through Joplin, killing 151 people while destroying some 6,000 homes and many other buildings.

Several people have been treated for zygomycosis in neighboring Greene County, said Kendra Williams, administrator of community health and epidemiology for the Springfield-Greene County Health Department. She was unable to release information on whether any of the patients died.

"It's just an unfortunate side effect of the tornado," Williams said. "You deal with the sadness and emotions from the tornado itself and then you find there are problems associated with this."

Symptoms of pain, swelling and skin discoloration typically showed up about five to 10 days after the tornado, Williams said. But depending on a person's age, health and wounds suffered, some cases could still surface, Schmidt said. The infection can spread rapidly and invades the blood supply, he said.

Treatment is with intravenous anti-fungal mediation and removal of damaged skin tissue, Schmidt said. Mold can be seen in some of the wounds, he said.

Public health departments in the Joplin region have notified doctors and hospitals to be aware of the possible infection when treating patients injured in the tornado, Williams said.

The official death toll from the Joplin tornado rose by 10 on Thursday from the previously reported number of 141, according to Jasper County Coronor Rob Chappel.

Eight of the new deaths were from injuries suffered in the tornado and one was from a fungal infection, though Chappel said he was not told if it was zygomycosis.

Authorities have also added to the list of the dead a police officer who died of lightning-strike injuries the day after the tornado, Chappel said. The officer had previously been excluded from the count.

(Editing by James B. Kelleher and Jerry Norton)


http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/ ... HW20110609
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