Hurricane Could Strike World's Most Important Area

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Re: Hurricane Could Strike World's Most Important Area

Postby barracuda » Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:43 am

Belligerent Savant wrote:.


Bloomberg:

"Staying behind is dangerous, staying behind is foolish, and it's against the law..." [!!!]
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Cearly a dry run for future Marshall Law. And the people dutifully comply. Supermarkets have been cleared of water, batteries and other "vital" resources for what is being marketed as a full-fledged natural disaster threatening our privileged way of life. Amazing how well-trained/domesticated/indoctrinated the Plebes have become. They will mindlessly [almost unconsciously] adhere to any instruction/hysterics passed down by AUTHORITY/MEDIA.


Some of the plebes do, some don't.

The city opened 91 emergency centers that could take in 70,000 people. But officials said that only 5,500 had arrived by 8 p.m. The only other statistics available pointed to the difficulty of getting people to abide by the mayor’s mandatory evacuation order in what the city calls Zone A low-lying areas: The mayor had said several hours earlier that 80 percent of the residents in some city-run buildings — but only 50 percent in others — had left.


I think you need to give New Yorkers a bit more credit for either bravery, stupidity, or simply not doing as they are told, which I understand is a tradition in the Empire State.

In the Rockaways, some of the naysayers were homeowners who noted that they had made it successfully through decades of hurricanes, northeasters and other storms, and had no reason to believe that Hurricane Irene would be any more ferocious.

And many residents of the roughly 3,000 public housing units said their biggest worry, if they remained, was living without electricity and hot water for a couple of days.

“We’re on the second floor; I don’t think we’re in danger,” said Amanda Perez, 26, who is keeping her family there. She sat in a second-floor hallway at the Ocean Bay complex with a group of other tenants, some of whom smoked cigarettes, drank liquor and generally ridiculed the notion that they should evacuate.

Jose Collazzo and his wife, Maggie, also residents of the Beach 41st Street Houses, decided against evacuation. Ms. Collazzo uses a wheelchair and is unable to climb stairs. Mr. Collazzo pushed her toward their building, rushing to get back before the elevators were shut off.

“If we lose power and gas, I’ll open the windows and barbecue inside,” Mr. Collazzo said.
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Re: Hurricane Could Strike World's Most Important Area

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:13 am

Nordic wrote:
nomo wrote:
Belligerent Savant wrote:Cearly a dry run for future Marshall Law.


It's the perfect exercise. This is an exciting time for the local law enforcement.



Pet peeve, perhaps, but it's "martial law". As in "military". Like Court "Martial".

Military law. Marshall Law would be named after somebody named Marshall, like Thurgood Marshall Airport in Baltimore.


Ooph. Quite right -- and I'd be one to find such an error a pet peeve as well... mental lapse/hurried typing. I'm fully aware of the genesis of "martial".
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Re: Hurricane Could Strike World's Most Important Area

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:20 am

barracuda wrote:
Belligerent Savant wrote:.


Bloomberg:

"Staying behind is dangerous, staying behind is foolish, and it's against the law..." [!!!]
--

Cearly a dry run for future Marshall Law. And the people dutifully comply. Supermarkets have been cleared of water, batteries and other "vital" resources for what is being marketed as a full-fledged natural disaster threatening our privileged way of life. Amazing how well-trained/domesticated/indoctrinated the Plebes have become. They will mindlessly [almost unconsciously] adhere to any instruction/hysterics passed down by AUTHORITY/MEDIA.


Some of the plebes do, some don't.

The city opened 91 emergency centers that could take in 70,000 people. But officials said that only 5,500 had arrived by 8 p.m. The only other statistics available pointed to the difficulty of getting people to abide by the mayor’s mandatory evacuation order in what the city calls Zone A low-lying areas: The mayor had said several hours earlier that 80 percent of the residents in some city-run buildings — but only 50 percent in others — had left.


I think you need to give New Yorkers a bit more credit for either bravery, stupidity, or simply not doing as they are told, which I understand is a tradition in the Empire State.

In the Rockaways, some of the naysayers were homeowners who noted that they had made it successfully through decades of hurricanes, northeasters and other storms, and had no reason to believe that Hurricane Irene would be any more ferocious.

And many residents of the roughly 3,000 public housing units said their biggest worry, if they remained, was living without electricity and hot water for a couple of days.

“We’re on the second floor; I don’t think we’re in danger,” said Amanda Perez, 26, who is keeping her family there. She sat in a second-floor hallway at the Ocean Bay complex with a group of other tenants, some of whom smoked cigarettes, drank liquor and generally ridiculed the notion that they should evacuate.

Jose Collazzo and his wife, Maggie, also residents of the Beach 41st Street Houses, decided against evacuation. Ms. Collazzo uses a wheelchair and is unable to climb stairs. Mr. Collazzo pushed her toward their building, rushing to get back before the elevators were shut off.

“If we lose power and gas, I’ll open the windows and barbecue inside,” Mr. Collazzo said.



All good points -- I was alluding to the Plebes across the continental U.S., not so much NY specifically; generally speaking, NY seems to be one of the 'pocket areas' where a portion of the populace tend to be more discordant/defiant of authority [speaking as a native NYer]
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Re: Hurricane Could Strike World's Most Important Area

Postby justdrew » Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:36 am

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Re: Hurricane Could Strike World's Most Important Area

Postby Project Willow » Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:30 pm

Pet peeve, perhaps, but it's "martial law". As in "military". Like Court "Martial".


I recently told someone they had made a mute point.

Seems like Irene turned out to be somewhat mute compared to expectations, which is good.
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Re: Hurricane Could Strike World's Most Important Area

Postby Luther Blissett » Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:15 pm

My neighborhood is rife with "never forget" photo opportunities.

Yes, I am glad to report that I haven't heard of anyone I know losing power. There are many, many in this area that did, though, so hopefully they get it back up and running before another half-asses natural disaster befalls us.

How did the New Yorkers fare?
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Re: Hurricane Could Strike World's Most Important Area

Postby Pazdispenser » Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:38 pm

Luther Blissett wrote:How did the New Yorkers fare?



I think the massive hyperventilation exhibited Thursday, Friday and early Saturday here pulled all remaining life out of Irene. Ive seen more wind on an average November day.
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Re: Hurricane Could Strike World's Most Important Area

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:26 pm

Luther Blissett wrote:
How did the New Yorkers fare?


We just got back from my Dad's in PA.

It's still a bit windy here in the Apple, but no more so than it's been any number of times so far in 2011.

On our way in, our doorman freaked us out by telling us that some of the apartments in the building had collapsed ceilings due to, of all freaking things, clogged patio drains in the apartments above them leading to soaked floors, which, in turn, collapsed the ceilings.

Thankfully, our apartment is exactly how we left it, though.

I guess I'll get a better idea of the overall situation tomorrow morning as I walk to work.
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Re: Hurricane Could Strike World's Most Important Area

Postby bks » Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:19 am

Of course, no one could have expected that the big media might hype an east-coast weather system beyond proper proportions. With the deed done [or not], one set of its appendages will now set about flogging its others. Hype begets hype, but copy begets copy, more importantly.

Couple of articles from before the storm's impact on the mid-Atlantic are worthy of note. One good dissenting article here, too, claiming it wasn't hype, and explaining what is.

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Up until now (Friday evening) Irene has been very similar to 1985 hurricane Gloria, though a bit weaker. But the level of hype—because of its projected path near all of the I-95 major cities—is similar to that of 26 years ago. . .

When Gloria didn’t kill enough people to suit CBS’s Dan Rather—a serial hurricane hyper who made his career on 1961 Hurricane Carla—he yelled at poor Neil Frank on live TV.

What had happened is that the night before landfall, Gloria took a sudden 40-mile jog to the east. The cyclone slid harmlessly east of the big cities, showing her weaker western side instead of the destructive northeast corner.

Irene has put on a remarkably similar show. Within the limits of forecasting error, Irene’s projected path makes it was impossible to rule out a major disaster. But, as a dangerous Category 3 storm within two days of land, something similar to what happened to Gloria occurred. Instead of going slightly off course, the power of her winds dropped markedly, at least as measured by hurricane hunter aircraft. Because it is prudent to not respond to every little tropical cyclone twitch (such as Gloria’s jog or Thursday’s wind drop), the Thursday evening forecast was virtually unchanged, the Internet went thermonuclear, and the Weather Channel’s advertising rates skyrocketed. From that point on, it became all Irene, all the time. With this level of noise, the political process has to respond with full mobilization. Hype begets hype.

A day later, the smart money is still riding a very Gloria-like track, but with a cyclone that will be weaker than projected. It is doubtful that Irene will even cough up eight bodies (the number killed by Gloria), though power outages east of where the center makes landfall (probably on Long Island) may be extensive.

As I complete this, there’s another tropical depression out in the Atlantic, and a couple more on the way in the very near future. Suppose one of these takes a similar path, except that it improbably threads the needle of the Mid-Atlantic Bight and makes landfall immediately to the west of New York City as a Category 3 storm. How many people will the hyping of Irene have killed?

That’s how Hurricane Hype followed by Hurricane Insanity leads to hurricane death.



http://news.yahoo.com/real-hurricane-ir ... 02485.html



Last article prob. the most interesting:

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20110 ... owup_.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/2 ... 40215.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... board.html

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyh ... never-was/

https://www.gplus.com/hurricanes/articl ... n-strength

http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/top- ... meet-them/
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Re: Hurricane Could Strike World's Most Important Area

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:28 am

Hurricane Irene Could Sprout Bumper Crop Of Magic Mushrooms

First Posted: 8/27/11 11:43 AM ET Updated: 8/27/11 11:45 AM ET


Everyone knows the potential destructive power of hurricanes, but few people are aware that storms like Hurricane Irene encourage growth of psychedelic mushrooms.

Yes, it sounds trippy, but one of the strange aftermaths of a hurricane is an increased amount of mushrooms popping up -- especially the psilocybin -- or "magic" kind -- the ones that cause hallucinations.

According to Dr. Casey Simon, an addiction expert based in Orange County, Calif., hurricanes create the perfect climactic conditions for the mushrooms to grow.

"Mushrooms are spores and they multiply in moisture and are spread by wind," he told HuffPost Weird News.

Dr. Suneil Jain, a naturopathic physician in Scottsdale, Ariz., goes even further.

"The moisture, humidity, the wind and the temperature during hurricanes is the perfect climate for mushrooms," he told HuffPost Weird News. "Also, both hurricanes and mushroom growth are associated with new or full moons, so there may be a lunar element as well."

Jain says, generally, psychedelic mushrooms are noted by their bluish-gray stems, but stresses that many mushrooms can be toxic and ones picked in the wild should not be consumed unless they've been examined by an expert.


However, despite the hallucinogenic effects, he says that magic mushrooms are relatively safe.

"These substances have been used for centuries, with just a handful of cases of addiction, or long-term problems," he said. "Generally, they are fairly benign."

Recent studies by Johns Hopkins University suggest psilocybin mushrooms may have medical benefits, and Jain is one of those who believes the findings could have a positive impact on humanity.

"There is evidence that it can help in treating OCD, body dismorphia issues and even marital problems," he said.

Simon says the real danger of the mushrooms isn't the psilocybin.

"Some mushrooms can attract a fungus that makes them more toxic," he said. "It looks like a gray mold on the under side. Just a few differences in temperature can make a difference."

Jain says that's why experienced mushroom experts pick mushrooms when they are as fresh as possible.

"The optimal time to pick is right after the storm before the other elements can affect them," he said.

Still, the news that the whole East Coast of the U.S. could soon be awash in 'shrooms is bound to get every hippie worth his hemp sandals and hacky sack on the hunt for a new high.

Mushrooms are likely to pop up in locations where bark is used for decorative landscaping, like industrial parks and government offices, according to ethnobotanist Clark Heinrich

It's important to emphasize that wild mushrooms -- both mind-altering or not -- should not be consumed willy nilly, but Jain hopes to use the fact that so many potentially medicinal mushrooms will soon be popping up all over the East Coast as a way to raise a discussion about an aspect of the medical-pharmaceutical industry he doesn't like.

"There are a lot of medicinal plants that [have health benefits]," he said. "For instance, the main ingredient in statin drugs comes from red yeast rice. But instead of focusing on the plants that can heal, medical science tries to find the active ingredient, change it slightly and then market that so they can charge a lot."

"Besides that, singling out one ingredient in the plant, like psilocybin, doesn't take into account that everything in the plant, and that they all work together."
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Re: Hurricane Could Strike World's Most Important Area

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:52 am

Irene leaves Vt. facing 'full-blown flooding catastrophe'
Overnight, every road, except two highways, was closed at one point, state official says


At least 4 million homes, businesses without power along East Coast
N.Y. airports reopen, but delays loom ; at least 650,000 stranded
Floods hit Vermont; historic bridges wiped out
At least 27 deaths reported in nine states

Vermont residents battled epic flooding Monday after the remnants of Hurricane Irene set off the state's worst deluge in more than 80 years, washing out roads, knocking out power and forcing hundreds into shelters.
At least one person was killed after being swept into a swollen river in the mountainous, land-locked New England state, which rarely sees tropical storms.
Homes and businesses were flooded after 7 inches of rain inundated the state from Irene, which had been reduced to a tropical storm by the time it reached Vermont on Sunday. Floodwaters gushed through downtown Brattleboro, an artsy community of 12,000 along the Connecticut River.
On Monday, President Barack Obama signed Vermont's emergency declaration, directing federal aid to supplement state and local response efforts, NBC News reported.
While the sun was out on Monday, officials worried that more damage could still be done.
"The bigger rivers haven't crested yet because the smaller brooks feed into them," Governor Peter Shumlin said in a radio interview with Democracy Now, a daily TV/radio news program. "It means more flooding. We continue to be challenged here."
Downgraded from a hurricane as it lumbered up the coast, Irene left millions without power across much of the Eastern Seaboard, was blamed for at least 27 deaths and forced airlines to cancel more than 12,000 flights .
It never became the big-city nightmare forecasters and public officials had warned about, but in more rural areas, rivers and creeks turned into raging torrents tumbling with tree limbs and parts of buildings.
The National Weather Service issued a series of flood warnings early Monday morning for rivers in New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York and Virginia.
A river gauge for the Connecticut River at Montague, Ma., showed it had risen by about 25 feet between 6 a.m. Friday and 6 a.m. ET Monday, according to the NWS.
50,000 without power in Vermont
Authorities warned of possibly disastrous flooding in the days ahead in Vermont, with the governor saying his state was facing "a full-blown flooding catastrophe."
Several of the state's historic covered bridges were washed away as Irene's rains sent rivers spilling over their banks in what officials called catastrophic flooding and the worst natural disaster since 1927.
In Woodstock, called America's prettiest small town by Ladies Home Journal, a water main break left the town without water coming from faucets and toilets but with plenty gushing through the streets, including through the bottom of the Woodstock Inn.
The Simon Pearce glass blowing studio in Quechee, which draws power from the Ottaquechee River, was flooded and the historic bridge leading to the studio, store and restaurant was teetering, a staff member said.
"It is complete mayhem up here," a spokesman at the Woodstock police department said.
State offices, businesses and many schools were closed on Monday as officials urged Vermont residents to stay indoors and off the roads as emergency crews approach the worst hit areas in Rutland and Addison counties in the south and middle of the state.

"It's pretty fierce. I've never seen anything like it," said Michelle Guevin, who spoke from a Brattleboro restaurant after leaving her home in nearby Newfane. She said the fast-moving Rock River was washing out the road to her house.
Vermont Gov. Peter Shumlin called the flooding catastrophic and several people had to be rescued. Some 50,000 people are without power, officials said on Monday.
Video: Vt. governor: Irene caused ‘catastrophe’ (on this page)
Shumlin ordered state offices closed on Monday and urged Vermont residents to stay indoors and off the roads as emergency crews approach the worst hit areas in Rutland and Addison counties in the south and middle of the state. Many businesses in Brattleboro and other cities and towns remained closed on Monday, local media reported.
Weather reporters said the flooding was the worst in Vermont since 1973 and perhaps since 1927.
Overnight every single road in Vermont — except interstate highways Routes 89 and 91 — was closed at one point due to flooding, Robert Stirewalt, a spokesman for the Vermont Emergency Management Agency said on Monday.
"Things are bad throughout the state and we are just starting the recovery process in the light of day," he said. "It is too early to say what the damage will be as we assess it and we hope it won't be more extensive than last night indicated."
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Known for its many rivers and creeks, Vermont had swift water rescue teams ready to move and every single emergency worker in the small state was called up to help, officials said.
But even some of the helpers encountered terrifying conditions and had to turn back on some occasions, officials said. The state Emergency Management Office in Waterbury was forced out to evacuate its building overnight and move in with a the Federal Emergency Management Agency in a nearby building.
Green Mountain Power considered deliberately flooding Vermont's capital Montpelier to save the earthen Marshfield Dam, about 20 miles up the Winooski River to the northeast.
But water levels stabilized Monday morning and they decided there was no need to take that drastic step. However, engineers were continuing to monitor the situation, said spokeswoman Dorothy Schnure.
Residents of 350 households were asked to leave as a precaution.
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Many of the worst effects arose from rains that fell inland, not the highly anticipated storm surge along the coasts.
Nearly 5 million homes and businesses lost power at some point during the storm. Lights started to come back on for many on Sunday, but some 4 million are still without power.

Get the latest river forecasts and observations from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
Counting the cost
New York-area airports reopened on Monday as U.S. airlines gradually restored more flights to their operations throughout the Northeast.
However, airlines were expected to need a day to reposition aircraft flown out of the region ahead of the storm, leaving Tuesday as their target for returning normal service to the storm-struck region.
One private estimate put damage along the coast at $7 billion, far from any record for a natural disaster.
The storm will take a bite out of Labor Day tourist business from the Outer Banks to the Jersey Shore to Cape Cod.
This year has been one of the most extreme for weather in U.S. history, with $35 billion in losses so far from floods, tornadoes and heat waves.
Irene was the first hurricane to make landfall in the continental United States since 2008, and came almost six years to the day after Katrina ravaged New Orleans on Aug. 29, 2005.
Twenty homes on Long Island Sound in Connecticut were destroyed by churning surf.
The torrential rain chased hundreds of people in upstate New York from their homes and closed 137 miles of the state's main highway.
In the South, authorities still were not sure how much damage had been done but expressed relief that it wasn't worse.
"Thank God it weakened a little bit," said Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, who toured a hard-hit Richmond neighborhood where large, old-growth trees uprooted and crushed houses and automobiles.

In Norfolk, Va., where storm surges got within inches of breaking a record, most of the water had receded by Sunday. There was isolated flooding and downed trees, but nowhere near the damage officials predicted.
"We can't believe a hurricane came through here," city spokeswoman Lori Crouch said.
In North Carolina, where six people were killed, the infrastructure losses included the only road to the seven villages on Hatteras Island.
"Overall, the destruction is not as severe as I was worried it might be, but there is still lots and lots of destruction and people's lives are turned upside down," Gov. Beverly Perdue said in Kill Devil Hills.
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Re: Hurricane Could Strike World's Most Important Area

Postby 82_28 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:15 pm

Good, Bruce. Glad you are well.

Let's see what happens next!

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Re: Hurricane Could Strike World's Most Important Area

Postby Nordic » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:20 pm

My stepdaughter rode pout the storm in some tiny apartment in Brooklyn. No problems, didn't even lose power. But now they're on their way to the airport to hopefully get their flight out of there. Keeping my fingers crossed. If all goes well she'll be home late tonight.

I have a friend who on Facebook is talking about how weird it is to watch from afar as his small hometown in Vermont gets destroyed by the floods. His is one of those getting severely clobbered.
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Re: Hurricane Could Strike World's Most Important Area

Postby ninakat » Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:34 pm

ninakat wrote:OK, here's dutchsinse talking about a haarp ring showing up on the radar around Raleigh -- I saw this anomaly when watching the radar recently and thought it seemed strange. But I'm still agnostic on haarp and whether they're up to something with the weather. At any rate, he's saying there will be severe weather in the future here in Raleigh, within the next 24-48 hours. That's well past the time when the hurricane is here, so we'll see (I'm doubtful, but keeping an open mind.... for now).



I'm still agnostic about haarp's role in whether or not those radar anomalies the other night meant anything.... BUT, it's interesting that dutchsinse predicted (in the video above) severe weather within 24-48 hours of that radar blip (48 hours would be 6 hours from now), because right now there are severe thunderstorms crossing the Raleigh area despite the weather forecast for today (as of late last night) calling for full sun today, with nothing in the forecast at all about even isolated thunderstorms. Now, of course, the weather forecasting has been very inaccurate around here on more than one occasion, but still.... something to make you go hmmmmmmmm....

ON EDIT: My bad, 48 hours was last night at 11:10 PM.... so, probably nothing to this except bad weather forecasting. Probably. lol
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