ISIS Unveiled, 17/777, Jonah's Tomb, Israel. AIDS/Ebola

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Postby conniption » Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:00 pm

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August 11, 2014

How ISIS Finally Became Obama’s Enemy

by SHAMUS COOKE

Suddenly the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) has become a threat worthy of American missiles. For almost two years President Obama completely ignored the biggest and most brutal terror group in the Middle East, allowing it to balloon into a regional power. No matter how many heads it severed or how much territory it conquered, ISIS just couldn’t draw Obama’s attention.

As ISIS was conquering ever-expanding territories Obama was supposedly waging a “war on terror” around the globe, drone-bombing any would-be bogeyman in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan, etc. But when a real bogeyman emerged, Obama ignored it, and so did the U.S. media, which instead followed Obama’s warmongering gaze to Ukraine, while plagiarizing the president’s endless excuse-making for Israel’s genocidal conduct in Gaza.

For well over two years ISIS and other al-Qaeda-style groups have been the main driving force in the Syrian war that has claimed over 170,000 lives, with millions made refugees. And now, suddenly, Obama wants to intervene for “humanitarian” reasons to fight ISIS. But the actual reason that ISIS attracted Obama’s missiles is that the terror group did something unforgivable: It has finally threatened “U.S. interests,” whereas before the interests of ISIS and Obama were perfectly aligned.

The indefatigable Middle East journalist Patrick Cockburn was dumbfounded by the lack of government and media attention ISIS has gotten, as the group expanded its power over huge regions of Syria and Iraq, now threatening Lebanon. Cockburn exasperatedly writes:

“As the attention of the world focused on Ukraine and Gaza, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) captured a third of Syria in addition to the quarter of Iraq it had seized in June…The birth of the new [ISIS] state is the most radical change to the political geography of the Middle East since the Sykes-Picot Agreement was implemented in the aftermath of the First World War. Yet this explosive transformation has created surprisingly little alarm internationally…”

Similar surprise was displayed by Noah Bonsey, a Syria expert at the International Crisis Group, who couldn’t understand the free hand Obama was giving ISIS:

“The U.S. has the clout and capacity to build partnerships capable of reversing ISIS gains, but seems to lack the necessary vision and will.”

And finally from The New York Times:

“Even after the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, seized Fallujah and other territory in the western part of the country [Iraq] at the beginning of the year and marched through Mosul and toward Baghdad by summer, the president expressed no enthusiasm for American military action.”

Or any action for that matter.

While ignoring ISIS’ destruction of Syria and invasion of Iraq, U.S.-led NATO issued non-stop warnings about Russia possibly invading Ukraine. But of course there were no such warnings issued — or attention paid — to Israel’s invasion of Gaza.

And whereas Obama didn’t lift a finger to stop the Israeli invasion, he recently stated that the U.S. has a “unique opportunity” to stop an ISIS massacre in Iraq; thousands of Gazans must be rolling in their freshly dug graves.

Obama’s inconsistent approach to foreign policy has confused many an analyst, who see no logic in the president’s approach to military intervention. Even Obama’s former deputy Secretary of State recently commented:

“Nobody has the sense about why [intervention] in some cases and not in others… His [Obama’s] last news conference just leaves you scratching your head. Yeah, we can’t do everything. But what matters to us?”

In reality, however, there is a definite logic to Obama’s foreign policy, where he has been disgracefully consistent throughout his presidency. For example, after Obama publicly targeted the Syrian government for destruction had had no qualms about using ISIS and the other al-Qaeda-linked groups as proxies in the fight.

These terror groups were encouraged to grow exponentially in their fight against al-Assad, with Obama knowing full well that Saudi Arabia and other U.S. allied Gulf States were sending mountains of money, guns, and fighters to the jihadists. There was simply was no one else effectively fighting al-Assad, a dynamic that has artificially lengthened a war that would have ended years ago, while creating the environment that ISIS thrived in. Much of the money and guns that Obama shipped to the “moderate” Islamists rebels of course found its way into the hands of the jihadists, since thousands of moderates have since joined ISIS.

The more that ISIS did for the U.S. in Syria, the less Obama gave it attention, a very powerful form of passive political support. When ISIS invaded Iraq from Syria, Obama barely batted an eyelash, making excuse after excuse about why the U.S. couldn’t send the Iraqi government military equipment to fight ISIS. Imagine, however, if Saudi Arabia or Israel were invaded by a terrorist organization? Obama would have green-lighted F-16 bombing raids in minutes.

Obama’s lack of concern for the ISIS invasion of Iraq was ideologically linked to his inaction in Syria: Obama wants regime change in both nations, and is using ISIS as a de facto ally in both cases. This became quickly obvious with Obama’s response to the ISIS invasion of Iraq; he simply criticized the Iraqi government for not being more inclusive; meanwhile ISIS butchered its way through giant regions of Iraq and subjected the survivors to a more brutal totalitarianism than the U.S.-allied dictatorship in Saudi Arabia.

Further political support was given to ISIS by U.S. politicians, who essentially accepted ISIS as the ruler of the newly conquered Iraqi territories; these politicians instantly referred to Iraq as being “de facto partitioned,” meaning that ISIS had created a separate Sunni region that would be complemented by Shia and Kurdish regions.

Coincidentally, this “partition” plan just happens to be the official plan of Vice President Joe Biden, who for a while has advocated a “soft partition” of Iraq, an idea as ludicrous as a “partial” nuclear attack. As long as ISIS was “de facto” helping achieve Biden’s partition plan, Obama was fine with ISIS’ murderous rampage. And now the media informs us, unsurprisingly, that Biden’s plan has officially been “gaining momentum” in Washington D.C.

But then ISIS went too far. The red line that ISIS finally crossed was their attack against the U.S. allied Iraqi Kurds. The Kurds govern their own oil-rich autonomous zone in Iraq, and have been steadfast U.S. supporters. The New York Times talks openly about the real, non-humanitarian motive of Obama attacking ISIS:

“Mr. Obama has been reluctant to order direct military action in Iraq [against ISIS] while [Iraqi] Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki remains in office, but in recent weeks there have been repeated pleas from the Kurdish officials for weapons and assistance as ISIS militants have swept across northwestern Iraq.”

The Times re-enforced this perspective when talking about the views of Representative Adam Smith of Washington State:

“…he [Smith] supported intervening on behalf of the Kurds, as opposed to the unpopular Baghdad government. “The Kurds are worth helping and defending” [said Smith].”

There you have it. The thousands who have been slaughtered by ISIS in Syria and other parts of Iraq weren’t “worth defending,” but the Kurds are different, since their leaders are U.S. allies. This sums up U.S. foreign policy in a nutshell, which has absolutely nothing to do with “humanitarianism.” Gazans are allowed to be slaughtered, Syrian’s massacred, and half of Iraq torn to shreds while Obama has busied himself with making threats to Russia.

The logical of U.S. military intervention is completely based on a cynical calculation meant to boost U.S. military and corporate power abroad, by any means necessary.

Shamus Cooke is a social service worker, trade unionist, and writer for Workers Action (http://www.workerscompass.org). He can be reached at shamuscooke@gmail.com


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On Edit:
Breaking news

Iraq’s PM Maliki gives up his post,
supports his successor Abadi - State TV
Published time: August 14, 2014 19:56

Iraq’s Nour al-Maliki has announced his resignation from the post of Prime Minister of the embattled state in a speech on the state television. He stated that he supports his nominated replacement in the post Haider al-Abadi.


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MoA
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August 14, 2014

Obama Lies - There Never Was A "Siege Of Mount Sinjar"

Obama today:

“We broke the ISIL siege of Mount Sinjar,” Obama said.

"We do not expect there to be an additional operation to evacuate people off the mountain, and it's unlikely we'll need to continue humanitarian air drops on the mountain," Obama continued.


This "broke the siege" statement is a lie. There never was a "siege" on the Sinjar mountain range. The Yazidi who had fled there were quickly welcomed and evacuated to Syria by the Kurdish PKK and YPG forces. There are now some 15,000 of Yazidis in the Kurdish part of Syria. Some thousand refugees may still be in the mountains but the nomadic shepherds who live there will likely help them along.

The PKK was already there doing the job three days before the first U.S. action took place.

On August 6 GulfNews reported:

“The PKK fighters have reached the Jabal Sinjar area, where they are protecting the Sinjaris from attacks” by militants, Penjweny said.

But another PUK official warned it could be some time before the civilians can be rescued.

“The PKK is working to open a safe passage for the displaced; it is not easy and it will require days,” Harem Kamal Agha said.


Here is video uploaded August 8 headlined "YPG and PKK rescue people from Sinjar" which shows part of the evacuation. Notice the tanker trucks with water and/or gasoline to keep the refugees going.

Herbert Maddison tweeted pictures from the area:

#HPG [#PKK] guerrilla in mount #Shingal / #Sinjar vicinity with trapped Ezidis, #Kurdistan #Iraq August 9, 2014


The PKK did even more than just rescue the Yazidis:

60 PKK guerrillas arrived to Lalesh, the sacred place of #Yazidis, in order to defend pic.twitter.com/oJ8qEp1wnM #ISIS #ISIL #Kurdistan


The only reason Obama sent troops and jets to the area was to protect the city of Erbil with its CIA station, the international airport and the local headquarters of various "western" oil companies.

When U.S. jets started bombing a few ISIS positions near to Erbil most Yazidis were already safe and on their way out of the mountains. The U.S. announced its first airstrikes on Friday the 8th while the PKK had started its operation to help the Yazidis on Tuesday the 5th. There was never a blockade or a siege and always a safe way out towards Syria which the refugees were helped along by the PKK.

But that good deed was done by the socialist from the PKK and YPG. The U.S. State Department officially designates the PKK as a "terrorist group" for its fight against the Turkish state. Unlike the pesh merga under the Iraqi Kurdish leader Barzani these people know how to fight and have the discipline and training to achieve successes against ISIS and other Jihadi organizations.

But that is a story Obama does not want to tell. He needs an excuse to reintroduce U.S. forces back into Iraq, to secure the oil U.S. companies are pumping from there and to pressure for regime change in Baghdad. The Sinjar mountain "siege" was an easy excuse. Nearly as good as the sinking of the Maine and the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

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Re: ISIS Unveiled, 17/777, Jonah's Tomb, Israel. AIDS/Ebola

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:04 am

I'm still dumbfounded how very few, if any mainstream media tv or online/print outlets are mentioning how it was just a couple years ago the US was all too eager to support Saudi Arabia in arming
hardcore jihadi groups to the teeth to take down Assad. While ISIS can be traced to the Sunni al Qaeda of Iraq(the US stoking of shiite militants and sectarian warfare is a whole other topic)
it really was birthed in the 2011-2013 proxy war in Syria. This isn't the 1979-1988 "blowback" columnists talked about re: 9/11, here's instant blowback.

Noone seems to talk about how Libya and even Tripoli is in chaos, again from jihadist groups the US and western allies supported.
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Postby Hunter » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:26 am

Anyone see the reports today that the White House has nixed sending Israel more munitions? Why the change of heart so suddenly, we have been sending them anything they want for decades.

White House and Obama now saying they didnt know the US Military were sending Israel all the weapons they requested and that the US military was sending them without White House approval, I call BULLSHIT, this is clearly an attempt by the adminstration to create PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY in light of the fact that Israel is now being investigated for war crimes and the US could be held accountable as an accessory to the war crimes for arming Israel with all the munitions used for said war crimes. If you cant see through this bullshit you are not paying attention. This is simply the administration trying to quickly distance itself from any forthcoming war crimes investigation.

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Postby 82_28 » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:31 am

Why is it ISIS and ISIL interchangably?
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Postby justdrew » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:37 am

82_28 » 14 Aug 2014 21:31 wrote:Why is it ISIS and ISIL interchangably?


It's neither, it's just IS now. :moresarcasm
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Postby 8bitagent » Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:52 am

made this tonight..I titled it
"卐♊ ♐ A.A. BLVCK 11.77.93.175.777 LODGE A.A✡ 卍 ♄♂☽" AKA THE BLVCK BROTHERHOOD
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Postby American Dream » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:17 pm

Death in June, it should be added- is part of some fucked up shit...
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Postby Luther Blissett » Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:26 pm

Reading over the last few essays and posts on this thread, I can't help be reminded of someone - most likely a prominent conspiracy theorist - predicting a situation almost exactly like what we are seeing with ISIS now way back in the buildup to the invasion of Iraq. Normally I have a memory like a steel trap but it was the kind of speculative thing I've just learned to ignore.

Does anyone remember anything like this? I should have paid more attention.

on edit: Lewis Lapham actually? In Harper's maybe?
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Postby 82_28 » Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:46 pm



Oh yeah. Back "in the day" notsees would show up regularly to peaceful punk shows and rule the pit, the bouncers, security. They lived (live) to brutalize and frighten others. There has to be, HAS TO BE something other than just straight up "white race principles" -- something had to have come before it because I never noticed it growing up -- until I did. I will always be fascinated by how they got such a toe hold on many youth. We stayed strong. Again, I have told this story once here, but I had to save a skinhead's life because he was the one left behind from the riot his group caused at a skatepark event. He was crying and so scared -- trapped in a car. But he was about to be killed -- seriously.

I was young, but I think I told him that let this be a lesson to you. We saved your life (me and this other guy Joe), even though we hate you. Good luck and don't ever come back.
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Postby 8bitagent » Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:54 pm




Aw ok, I removed the link. I was just trying to think of a song about strong symbols. I'm not terribly familiar with them, just remember kinda digging them when I was in my Coil/Swans/Throbbing Gristle phase.
I think I do recall some controversy I had read about him and Boyd Rice.


82_28 » Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:46 pm wrote:


Oh yeah. Back "in the day" notsees would show up regularly to peaceful punk shows and rule the pit, the bouncers, security. They lived (live) to brutalize and frighten others. There has to be, HAS TO BE something other than just straight up "white race principles" -- something had to have come before it because I never noticed it growing up -- until I did. I will always be fascinated by how they got such a toe hold on many youth. We stayed strong. Again, I have told this story once here, but I had to save a skinhead's life because he was the one left behind from the riot his group caused at a skatepark event. He was crying and so scared -- trapped in a car. But he was about to be killed -- seriously.

I was young, but I think I told him that let this be a lesson to you. We saved your life (me and this other guy Joe), even though we hate you. Good luck and don't ever come back.


Oh man, Denver, etc I heard so many nazi skin type shit happening in the 1990s. I don't hear much about that stuff anymore, even in a post bubbas angry at Obama time period.
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Postby 8bitagent » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:07 pm

Luther Blissett » Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:26 pm wrote:Reading over the last few essays and posts on this thread, I can't help be reminded of someone - most likely a prominent conspiracy theorist - predicting a situation almost exactly like what we are seeing with ISIS now way back in the buildup to the invasion of Iraq. Normally I have a memory like a steel trap but it was the kind of speculative thing I've just learned to ignore.

Does anyone remember anything like this? I should have paid more attention.

on edit: Lewis Lapham actually? In Harper's maybe?


Interesting, I'll check out a link if ya find it. I do recall early theorizing about "balkanization" being a key conspiracy agenda, partitioning Iraq into several statelets
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Postby 82_28 » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:36 pm

Not to derail, but I just had this memory come back to me as I was walking to the store. Thought I would relay it as it is an old memory.

There were these three friends of ours who "went skin". Another guy (who was a scrub) had built a half pipe in his back yard and the newly minted skins came rolling by because they had heard there was a new half pipe. So they come in and start skating. I suddenly get the idea that the various barrels in the yard were made for a skinhead to stand in if he wanted to skate. So I made them stand in them while I filled them with water from the garden hose. Then I had the "bright idea" to make them piss on each other. Hahaha. I am so not cruel and I don't know where that came from -- the idea.

But I do think that did the trick. Within months they had denounced the KKK and all that and resumed being the people I knew they were inside. Of course I apologized and still feel awful about that. Believe me, I didn't do it from some grand grasp on maturity. I did it because I hated what they had become and that overall, it would be funny. And it was. Just overall, cruel.

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"It's a quagmire"-Cheney protesting further invasion of Iraq

Postby MayDay » Sun Aug 17, 2014 1:55 am

Luther Blissett » Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:26 pm wrote:Reading over the last few essays and posts on this thread, I can't help be reminded of someone - most likely a prominent conspiracy theorist - predicting a situation almost exactly like what we are seeing with ISIS now way back in the buildup to the invasion of Iraq. Normally I have a memory like a steel trap but it was the kind of speculative thing I've just learned to ignore.

Does anyone remember anything like this? I should have paid more attention.

on edit: Lewis Lapham actually? In Harper's maybe?


Which invasion of Iraq? Was it this guy?


Mostly just kidding.

Anyone who was paying attention in 2003 could have predicted a situation like what we are seeing with the Islamic State, myself included. And please, stop calling it Isis, for goddess's sake!
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Postby 8bitagent » Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:37 pm

That 1994 Cheney video is so crazy, when you contrast it with 2002-2003 Cheney. Like the April Glasspie revelations or the Kuwaiti incubator stuff, you just never saw the media put two and two together.

The reason news outlets refer to "The Islamic State" as ISIS is because ISIS just sounds cooler. Islamic State just sounds kind of generic. Much of the genocide going on in Syria that had being carried out by Assad is now being
carried out by the Islamic State these days.
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Postby 8bitagent » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:56 pm

Heartbreaking to read this article. Just like it was heartbreaking to read what happened in Sudan or Rwanda or former Yugoslavia.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/17/world/mea ... ?hpt=hp_c2

I almost wonder if one reason ISIS and the tribes people aiding them are so eager to wipe them all out, besides the Peacock worship, is because many of them
look European(or Eastern European)

Every time I hear a news anchor, official or commentator say "It's tragic what is happening to the Yazidis" it NEEDS to be caveated with "of course none of this would be happening
had the US not illegally invaded Iraq, an event which lead to over a half million Iraqi deaths".
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