James Foley "beheading" video. For real ...??

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Re: James Foley "beheading" video. For real ...??

Postby 82_28 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:07 am

PHOENIX -- Tigers at the Phoenix Zoo are getting frozen fish snacks. Temporary cooling stations are popping up to welcome the homeless and elderly. And airlines are monitoring the soaring temperatures to make sure it's safe to fly as the western U.S. falls into the grip of a dangerous heat wave.

A strong high-pressure system settling over the region Friday and through the weekend will bring extreme temperatures to the already blazing Southwest. Notoriously hot Death Valley, Calif., is forecast to reach 129 degrees, not far off its world-record high of 134 logged nearly a century ago.

"We came to this special place to experience it at its best," said Hermenn Muessner with a smile. Muessner, from the Alpine country of Lichtenstein, planned to continue his tour through the Southwest with a stop at Yosemite National Park, where temperatures were expected in the high-80s.

By 9:30 a.m., the temperature had already climbed to 110 in the shade outside a pro shop at a Death Valley golf course. Tourists appeared to move in slow motion in the intense heat. They took photos of the landscape or of themselves in front of national park signs, and then got back into their air-conditioned cars.

When he arrived the night before, Juergen Bausch saw that the car's thermometer said the temperature outside was at 118. He took a photo of the reading and sent it to his friends back home in Germany. And then he got out of the car.

"Wow what a surprise," he said.

The National Weather Service predicts Phoenix could reach 118 on Friday, while Las Vegas could see the same temperature over the weekend. Temperatures are expected to soar across Utah and into parts of Wyoming and Idaho, where forecasters are calling for triple-digit heat in the Boise area.

Cities in Washington state better known for cool, rainy weather should break the 90s next week, while northern Utah -- marketed as having "the greatest snow on Earth" -- is expected to hit triple digits.

"This is the hottest time of the year but the temperatures that we'll be looking at for Friday through Sunday, they'll be toward the top," said National Weather Service meteorologist Mark O'Malley, adding, "It's going to be baking hot across much of the entire West."

Jennifer Smith, a spokeswoman for the National Interagency Fire Center based in Idaho, said crews are especially worried about wildfires igniting in the Four Corners region where the borders of Colorado, New Mexico, Utah and Arizona intersect.

Some of the strongest parts of the high pressure system are expected to be parked over the area through the weekend, where forecasters are calling for lightning but little to no precipitation, Smith said.

Scientists say that the jet stream, the river of air that dictates weather patterns, has been more erratic in the past few years. It's responsible for weather systems getting stuck, like the current heat wave. Scientists disagree on whether global warming is the cause of the jet stream's behavior.

The hottest cities are taking precautions to protect vulnerable residents. Police are pleading with drivers not to leave children or pets in vehicles, and temporary cooling stations are being put up to shelter homeless people and the elderly on fixed incomes who hesitate to use air conditioning.

Officials said extra personnel have been added to the U.S. Border Patrol's Search, Trauma, and Rescue unit as people illegally crossing the border from Mexico into Arizona could succumb to exhaustion and dehydration. At least seven people have been found dead in the last week in Arizona after falling victim to the desert's brutal heat.

Even airlines are watching the mercury for any signs that temperatures could deter operations.

In June 1990, when Phoenix hit 122 degrees, several airlines, including America West, which later merged with US Airways, were forced to cease flights for several hours because the planes didn't have the data needed to know how they would fly in temperatures above 120 degrees.

US Airways spokesman Todd Lehmacher said the airline's fleet of Boeings can now fly up to 126 degrees, and up to 127 degrees for the Airbus fleet.

But the company's smaller express planes flying out of the Phoenix area may be delayed if the temperature tops 118 because as the air heats up, it becomes less dense and changes liftoff conditions.

"The hotter is it, your performance is degraded," Lehmacher said. "We're monitoring this very closely to see what the temperatures do."

Officials at Salt River Project, the Phoenix area's largest electricity provider, also are closely monitoring usage in order to redirect energy in case of a potential overload.

Company spokeswoman Scott Harelson said he doesn't expect usage to get anywhere near SRP's record 6,663 megawatts consumed in August 2011.

"While it's hot, people tend to leave town and some businesses aren't open, so that has a tendency to mitigate demand and is why we typically don't set records on weekends," Harelson said.

Meanwhile, over at the Phoenix Zoo, animals from elephants to warthogs will be doused with hoses and sprayed with sprinklers and misters throughout the weekend.

The tigers will get frozen fish snacks while the lions can lounge on concrete slabs cooled by internal water-filled pipes, said zoo spokeswoman Linda Hardwick.

"And they'll all have plenty of shade," she said. "The keepers will all just be very active looking for any behavior changes, anything that would tip them off that an animal is just getting too hot."

In Las Vegas, two Elvis impersonators and a performer costumed as the iconic "Welcome to Fabulous Las Vegas" sign said they still planned to keep up their routine of working the tourist corridor in the broad daylight and turning in for the evenings, heat notwithstanding.

"We'd much rather fight with the sun than fight with the drunk people," Elvis impersonator Cristian Morales said.


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Re: James Foley "beheading" video. For real ...??

Postby Belligerent Savant » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:36 am

Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:13 am wrote:
82_28 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:40 am wrote:Sure, Stefano. But it makes no functional sense. There just is no way to pull it off given the environment and time of year. I don't care who you might be. A human cannot withstand that kind of heat in the desert without something else helping to withstand it while waging a war with burning hot weapons.


This is a courtesy reminder from the front desk that you're talking about people you don't know in a country you've never been to.


Ah yes -- the distinct privilege of First World White Folk pondering brutal realities from afar within the confines of climate-controlled homes equipped with broadband Internet access, drawing from (I'm gonna go on a limb here and say) ZERO prior exposure and/or experience.

Such is the beauty of the worldwide interconnect -- an army of armchair cybersleuths.

But that's great! Because once reaching consensus we can organize and germinate a movement that can eventually take on the status quo head on... or we can simply continue to ruminate online.

There may be a day in the not-too-distant future, however --- indeed, perhaps the increasing frequency of myriad calamitous events can be the gestation phase, as some here have alluded -- ‎where our precious protective 'bubble' may burst, exposing us first-worlders into the harsh realities of much of the rest of the world.

Alas, by then there likely won't be much impetus to post musings on the web, as survival instincts tend to take priority for those of us with an interest in.. well, survival. Shame, as it'd make for an interesting behavioral science exercise.‎

But there is a silver lining to such a collapse; indeed, The Great Equalizer would also expose the Elites: no longer protected by their thick walls of status quo and artificial constructs/operating systems‎, they are left exposed, naked and trembling to face the treacherous environs along with the hordes...

I'd like to believe that the true Christians among us would consider what Jesus would do if/when confronted with one of these former Jailers.

Or perhaps the perils of the 'new Wild Kingdom' will take over, rendering them little more than the day's prey.
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Re: James Foley "beheading" video. For real ...??

Postby 82_28 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:48 am

Ah yes -- the distinct privilege of us First World White Folk pondering brutal realities from afar within the confines of climate-controlled homes equipped with broadband Internet access, drawing from (I'm gonna go on a limb here and say) ZERO prior exposure and/or experience.


We got the drones, yo! Piloted from air conditioned technologically enhanced command centers. I think I'm gonna drop it, but will maintain that a human cannot run around the desert and take it all over without some "help".
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Re: James Foley "beheading" video. For real ...??

Postby Belligerent Savant » Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:35 pm

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Certainly possible. Various elements of this can be staged, or a combo of staged/real events, funded by parties other than those advertised.

So long as we're speculating (based on the limited intel available to us), I do lean towards Nordic's theory that the 'beheading' video may very well have been a modern-day parlor trick (though that doesn't necessarily mean Foley is still alive) -- the 'executioner' may not be part of ISIS at all (someone earlier mentioned his shiny new boots; an actor or agent). The filmed location itself may be a soundstage, or partially consisting of green screen/chroma key compositing.
Wouldn't be a stretch to view this as another 'wag the dog' event intended to generate desired responses and calls for action.
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Re: James Foley "beheading" video. For real ...??

Postby BOOGIE66 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:09 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:13 am wrote:
82_28 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:40 am wrote:Sure, Stefano. But it makes no functional sense. There just is no way to pull it off given the environment and time of year. I don't care who you might be. A human cannot withstand that kind of heat in the desert without something else helping to withstand it while waging a war with burning hot weapons.


This is a courtesy reminder from the front desk that you're talking about people you don't know in a country you've never been to.



About a beheading video that shows no one being beheaded.
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Re: James Foley "beheading" video. For real ...??

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:13 pm

Aye...turtles all the way down.

:fawked:

Re: the links you're posting, proof that a document can be forged ≠ proof that all documents are forgeries.

Perniciously, however, it does mean that all documents might be forgeries.
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Re: James Foley "beheading" video. For real ...??

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:47 pm

semper occultus » Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:12 am wrote:...the boot that hasn't dropped yet is the Sunni Awakening movement...that is to say whatever the indigenous Sunni's own "peshmerga" can bring to the party by way of boots on the ground......and it IS their ground, where their wives & kids are......unlike this Jihadi foreign-legion that's blown in via Syria....( alot from Belgium....weirdly )

...seems like they're content to kick back and watch the chaos unfold for the time being, destroy the credibilty of the Shi'te politicians in Baghdad before they call time on the party....at which time ISIS get caught between Iraq and a hardplace....the Kurds & the Sunnis.....

..... then they all come home & start detonating themselves on the public transport network...


It's a stupid gambit for Tribe leaders, as ISIS eventually will just kill anyone as they increase their bizarre expectations. Saddam I guess killed a lot of Shiites and Kurds, but he was lead by some sort of ego.
This Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi seems lead by both psychopathy, ego and a psychotic interpretation of Sunni extremism that (allegedly) Zawahiri and al Qaeda has condemned. Or least...that is what we have been told.

Remember the truther days when everyone was yelling AL QAEDA IS A CIA CONSTRUCTED HOAX....well...200,000 dead in Syria and the first barbaric "Caliphate" since like a zillion years ago But in case I sound too much like a Fox News wonk here, I'm convinced militant jihad and especially this new frankenstein brutality "ISIS" is wholly a globalist/black lodge creation.

I can imagine the next CFR headline: "Will US, Iran, Israel, Saudi Arabia and al Qaeda join forces to combat the monstrous Cthulu threat of ISIS?"
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Re: James Foley "beheading" video. For real ...??

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Re: James Foley "beheading" video. For real ...??

Postby justdrew » Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:51 pm

justdrew » 21 Aug 2014 23:33 wrote:vast billions a year for our all-seeing-eye intelligence system, but we never saw em coming.

It looks like another intelligence failure :grumpy


Terrorist organization ISIS has been in the news a lot lately for their hostile activities in Iraq and Syria. They've also been very active online, posting propaganda and photos on various social networking sites to try to recruit more members. Frequently, they'll have pictures of themselves in nondescript locations — but even carefully selected images give clues to a real location. Citizen journalists at Bellingcat analyzed a group of these photos, comparing buildings and bridges in the background to images from Google Earth. With very little to go on, they were able to pinpoint the location of a terrorist training camp.
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Re: James Foley "beheading" video. For real ...??

Postby 8bitagent » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:35 am

As the media is trumpeting the Pentagon's eye toward Syria, there's a pretty well done report about how Bashir Assad in a lot of ways allowed ISIS to flourish since they were brutally killing off the Free Syrian Army, al Nursura and other groups. Some speculated ISIS was secretly a Syrian government proxy. However now, according to people close to Syria, it seems like they really want Syria to put its full might to attacking ISIS head on and almost now welcome a US invasion aimed at thwarting the Islamic State which makes its home base in Eastern Syria.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/23/world ... syria.html

As the article notes, what a whirlwind, when it was only a little over a year ago Obama was looking at attacking the Syrian government...now every day there is the drum beat for America to go into Syria to take out Damascus' main enemy: ISIS which the Assad government now thinks could challenge them in their own city.
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Re: James Foley "beheading" video. For real ...??

Postby BOOGIE66 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:42 am

Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:13 am wrote:Aye...turtles all the way down.

:fawked:

Re: the links you're posting, proof that a document can be forged ≠ proof that all documents are forgeries.

Perniciously, however, it does mean that all documents might be forgeries.


That first bit is your conclusion not mine. & I thought I was saying pretty much the second bit by posting the links. I guess not :confused


That many people are just buying the video as gospel truth without question is bad enough, however I expected a bit more skepticism from more of the regular posters here.
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Re: James Foley "beheading" video. For real ...??

Postby Searcher08 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:41 am

BOOGIE66 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:42 am wrote:
Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:13 am wrote:Aye...turtles all the way down.

:fawked:

Re: the links you're posting, proof that a document can be forged ≠ proof that all documents are forgeries.

Perniciously, however, it does mean that all documents might be forgeries.


That first bit is your conclusion not mine. & I thought I was saying pretty much the second bit by posting the links. I guess not :confused


That many people are just buying the video as gospel truth without question is bad enough, however I expected a bit more skepticism from more of the regular posters here.


I think the context is important, which is that that area is a complete hot mess at the moment. There seems loads of video evidence that ISIS are happy to do mass executions as witnessed by the large number of Yazidi people who were traumatised, the shootings of obviously terrified Shia men in open pits with blood everywhere.

The State Department moron (Marie something?) on TV last night was *desperate* to blame Assad and say they would never *ever* work with him and it was *all* *his* *fault*. No coordination - ever!...

Given that ISIS is poised to assault Aleppo, the Syrian arena is going to be interesting militarily - providing opportunities for the USA to blow-up *both* ISIS AND Assad. WIN-WIN!

I came away thinking that the level of analysis and depth shown here is off the frickken scale in both breadth and depth compared what they were coming out with.
I got the impression that ISIS has officially got out of control; that engaging with the Iraqi Sunni tribes (who are key here) is seen as less important than blowing ISIS to kingdom come, that ISIS is still seen as strategically very secondary to taking out Iran and Syria. A bit of re-invention may be needed, rebranding into a new outfit still fit for the purpose of getting, like REAL MEN, to Tehran.
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Re: James Foley "beheading" video. For real ...??

Postby Nordic » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:01 pm

Searcher08 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:41 am wrote:
BOOGIE66 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:42 am wrote:
Wombaticus Rex » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:13 am wrote:Aye...turtles all the way down.

:fawked:

Re: the links you're posting, proof that a document can be forged ≠ proof that all documents are forgeries.

Perniciously, however, it does mean that all documents might be forgeries.


That first bit is your conclusion not mine. & I thought I was saying pretty much the second bit by posting the links. I guess not :confused


That many people are just buying the video as gospel truth without question is bad enough, however I expected a bit more skepticism from more of the regular posters here.


I think the context is important, which is that that area is a complete hot mess at the moment. There seems loads of video evidence that ISIS are happy to do mass executions as witnessed by the large number of Yazidi people who were traumatised, the shootings of obviously terrified Shia men in open pits with blood everywhere.

The State Department moron (Marie something?) on TV last night was *desperate* to blame Assad and say they would never *ever* work with him and it was *all* *his* *fault*. No coordination - ever!...

Given that ISIS is poised to assault Aleppo, the Syrian arena is going to be interesting militarily - providing opportunities for the USA to blow-up *both* ISIS AND Assad. WIN-WIN!

I came away thinking that the level of analysis and depth shown here is off the frickken scale in both breadth and depth compared what they were coming out with.
I got the impression that ISIS has officially got out of control; that engaging with the Iraqi Sunni tribes (who are key here) is seen as less important than blowing ISIS to kingdom come, that ISIS is still seen as strategically very secondary to taking out Iran and Syria. A bit of re-invention may be needed, rebranding into a new outfit still fit for the purpose of getting, like REAL MEN, to Tehran.



ok but that doesn't mean that the video in question was even made by ISIS.

It's an assumption. based on what we're being told by professional liars. Why believe the pro liars about anything?

Yes, all videos may be fakes. especially those which push an agenda of global terror war criminal profiteers. Like the US and the now international MIC.
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