OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

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Postby 2012 Countdown » Fri May 13, 2011 6:28 pm

Luposapien wrote:As clarification, whether or not Bin Ladin was really in that compound they raided, if there were computers in there, I would be surprised if there wasn't pornography on at least some of those computers (and even more surprised if they didn't plant some if there weren't any there). Even if it wasn't OBL's personal stash, it can be used to tar him as a hypocrite. Never mind that the overwhelming majority of those who would condemn him as such are just as hypocritical themselves. We Americans are capable of withstanding truly stupefying levels of cognitive dissonance. Practice makes perfect and all.



Exactly. It could all be true. What we are taking issue and critiquing are the motivations for making this public. There are certainly intentions and purposes for telling us all about how the cowardly, uh, strike that, no, the hypocrite porno-terrorist deserved to be immediately shot and killed rather than bring him in for questioning. Standard post-mortem character assassination to go with the alleged real assassination.
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby barracuda » Fri May 13, 2011 6:32 pm

82_28 wrote:I thought it was you who said that at the beginning of the thread.


Yeah, I did point that out, but it has since been taken up as a rallying cry throughout the mainstream media and beyond that the killing of Bi-Laden was the first stop on the Obama re-election campaign.

I think I've only maintained that this fucks everything up if we're used to living in our parents' America and the Obama crowd doesn't matter any more than a friend helping you hold a nail and then hitting his finger rather than the nail with the hammer and saying "oh, sorry". Deeper and more capricious fascism is coming and this all is part and parcel of it. I think this based on what? I dunno. I've tried a little in this thread and of course others to point out, right or wrong, what I see, with a view to managing fascist thought in collective life as far away as possible. Open minds and skepticism certainly help.


I don't really understand what you're saying here. Demonising Bin Laden through the old porn-saw hardly seems like a move calculated to make the end-timers further despise him. Even if it was, such a move would only hasten the swing vote to Obama's side.

But I think everyone knows that fundamental Christians wouldn't ever have pornography in their homes. God forbids it, doesn't He? Such a thing is as foreign to them as the wilds of Pakistan.
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby 8bitagent » Fri May 13, 2011 6:44 pm

Most parapolitical researchers know that most the drug smuggling, global child sex slavery/kidnapping networks, illicit arms dealers, and Islamic terror networks all lead to the same deep state globalist tentacles. Kosovo and Albania to Dubai, Saudi Arabia and even Israel. Hell, I can't even count how many articles connecting the United Nations to child sex crimes I've seen.

The visible intelligence agencies believe they're fighting the good fight, not realizing that most if not all Islamic terror groups are financed and puppeteered by the same trans-national corporate elements that they work for. Hell, I can't even think of one modern terror attack post 9/11 that didn't have any elements of moles, patsies, informants, or inside job aspects(Madrid 3/11, 7/7, 9/11, Bali 2002, Philippines 2003, Riyadh 2003, etc)

And aw, the ol steganography/terror link in the media. They really tried to play that up after 9/11...IF there was hidden coded webpages or jpgs used by "the terrorists", then no doubt it ties directly with the Ptech channels of deep-deep state subversion.
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby Jeff » Sat May 14, 2011 10:08 am

Killing and lying as a patriotic duty

Gerald Caplan
Globe and Mail, Friday, May. 13

Osama bin Laden is dead, but every other claim originally made by the Obama administration about his last minutes was a lie. To prove he’s a tough guy, the U.S. President in whom so many invested so much hope is living down to his predecessors’ morality. Welcome, macho Baracko!

Until they were forced to acknowledge the truth, the formidable Washington propaganda machine churned out an entire triumphalist narrative notable for being dishonest in every last respect. It claimed there was a fierce and prolonged firefight, that Bin Laden was armed, that he was shamefully hiding behind his wife, that their home was a luxurious million-dollar mansion. In fact, Bin Laden was murdered/executed in cold blood by Navy Seals carrying out a clear mandate to do exactly that. Capture or kill – wink wink, nudge nudge.

...

Whether by Mr. Bush or Mr. Obama, all means however cynical, squalid and lethal to achieve America’s ends are justified. The greater good must prevail. Some innocents are even called on to pay the supreme price for the greater good, like Moammar Gaddafi’s son and three grandchildren in Libya. NATO swears it’s not trying to kill Mr. Gaddafi and the UN resolution doesn’t sanction his killing. Yet his family were killed last week when a compound he was thought to be in was bombed by NATO.

No one has bothered explaining why the building was attacked at all and hardly anyone has written a single word about his grandchildren. By all accounts, unlike his brothers, the dead son couldn’t care less about politics or government. Information on his grandchildren is hard to come by; no one seems much interested. Maybe it doesn’t matter as much when they’re Arabs. I’m giving the grandchildren the benefit of the doubt and assuming they were not complicit in Mr. Gaddafi’s crimes since two of them were apparently toddlers and one was an infant. But for the life of me I can’t even find their names or gender. Just three small nameless children, neither girls nor boys, the usual collateral damage of war, killed by our side.

So far I’ve come across no apologies.


About Gerald Caplan

a pair of readers write:

Pathetic milquetoast champagne socialist drivel.

Try this treasonous apologia in those blue collar union halls and "working families" the NDP is always yapping about. Tell me how it plays in Pembroke or Peterborough.

...

If the NDP focuses on this grad school "critical theory" post-modernist anti-American crud, your role in the official opposition will be shortlived indeed.

Get out of the flipping academy and talk to working men and women. You claim to have their best interests at heart, but it's clear you see yourselves in a different ethical class. Which makes you a phony and a hypocrite.

"Ordinary Canadians" don't care about this b.s. and they certainly aren't losing any sleep about "rights deprivations" for people who kill us and our children.


And you think the NDP is ready for prime time????

Nice tactic G&M, giving Caplan & Mulcair a soapbox to spout their idiocy. After the next election the NDP will look back wistfully on their 2008 result of 37 seats.

In all honesty, the G&M should be identifying Caplan as an NDP hack, some gullible readers may be unable to connect the dots.
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Postby IanEye » Sat May 14, 2011 1:05 pm

Luposapien wrote:I would be surprised if there wasn't pornography on at least some of those computers (and even more surprised if they didn't plant some if there weren't any there). Even if it wasn't OBL's personal stash, it can be used to tar him as a hypocrite.


i would imagine that OBL had the complete collected works of TightFit Productions. Lord knows eye do....
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby Jeff » Sat May 14, 2011 2:01 pm

CBC Radio, The Current, interview with Benjamin Ferencz

U.S. President Barack Obama might not want to hear it, but there are people who don't buy the argument that killing Osama bin Laden was right. Benjamin Ferencz is one of them. He was an American prosecutor at the Nazi war crimes trials in Nuremberg after World War Two and he believes that the killing of Osama bin Laden may have been unjustified and - possibly - illegal. Benjamin Ferencz was in New Rochelle, New York.
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby semper occultus » Sat May 14, 2011 3:15 pm

so if Al Q is a declining brand in the Middle East any decent product manager is going to be looking for that profitbale new market :

Significance of death on terror fight limited
By James Blitz in London

www.ft.com

Published: May 2 2011 12:07 | Last updated: May 2 2011 19:06

Jihadism in Nigeria is also becoming a focus of western concern. A hitherto obscure Islamist group in Nigeria called Boko Haram is now looking far more professional, according to western intelligence experts and deployed a professional bombing campaign last autumn in Abuja.

Sure enough like dogs barking in the night…...

British construction worker feared kidnapped by al Qaeda terrorists after gun battle in Nigeria

www.dailymail.co.uk

Last updated at 3:22 PM on 14th May 2011

Security sources say there is some evidence to suggest contact between Boko Haram, a radical Islamist sect in Nigeria's remote northeast, and Al Qaeda in the Maghreb.


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Postby seemslikeadream » Sat May 14, 2011 3:20 pm

on to Africa

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Postby 8bitagent » Sun May 15, 2011 8:05 am

seemslikeadream wrote:on to Africa




It's strange Seth Mcfarlane was suppose to be on Flight 11, because a year earlier in 2000 one of the Family Guy episodes had bin Laden sneaking weapons onto a plane

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Postby MinM » Sun May 15, 2011 10:58 pm

2012 Countdown wrote:A quick parusal of the message boards and it seems to be having the desired effect. Lots of giggling and demeaning.
People don't even care to question the truth of any of this. This is the narrative desired, and critical thinking/skepticism is on vacation. I guess when the Gov't/administration admitted the bullshit 'coward used his wife as human shield' tale was made up, they had to start something else. Yes, this 'treasure trove' will be a great source of dometic propaganda.

Noreaga had a big porn stash too as I recall. All these dastardly madmen do.

Former Panama head and Bush family drug running buddy General Noriega got invaded by the USA when he got a bit too greedy and asked for a bigger cut of the Bush family's lucrative illegal drug running racket.

Afterwards, when the Pentagon was trying to put a positive spin on the mass murder of Panamanians, it was 'discovered' that Noriega had an extensive porn collection.


This was a sordid attempt by the Bush Mafiosos to draw attention away from the fact that the US government was heavily involved in running cocaine from Central America into the USA to in part, help fund the Contras which were CIA backed thugs fighting against democracy...
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby 2012 Countdown » Mon May 16, 2011 11:21 am

Bin Laden Meets The New American Lynch Mob‏

It turns out after all these years all they had to do to find Bin Laden was check the roster of the Islamabad Jihadists basketball team where he was the starting center. Of course, nobody for a thousand miles would breathe a word of it, that is just how much they hate America in that part of the world. In any case, all these Middle East occupations and wars have always been and remain destructive and counterproductive even to our own interests. So we start with the action page.

End The Wars In Afghanistan And Iraq: http://www.peaceteam.net/action/pnum1078.php

If nothing else, the demise of Osama bin Laden again raises the question of what exactly we think we are doing occupying so many countries in the Middle East. Surely not to fight terrorism. Instead, terrorism is driven precisely by these same kinds of operations. There is nothing at the end of this road but utter ruin for our own country, unless we somehow find the political courage to change course. So we speak out again, and will continue to do so.

The only thing good the right wing has had to say about the Bin Laden operation is that this action by Obama was just a continuation of the policies of George Bush. In one respect that is completely false. It was the policy of Bush NOT to pursue Bin Laden, but rather to use him as an excuse and justification for all the wars they had on their pre-existing agenda. The last thing the right wing wanted to do was to actually catch Bin Laden.

But in a larger sense, and sadly, they are correct in that Obama has done absolutely nothing to change anything of substance whatsoever about American foreign policy. The wars and occupations continue and have even been enlarged, run by exactly the same people who started them in the first place, with all Bush holdovers otherwise still in actual charge. And nothing about that will change until so-called liberals and so-called progressives stop giving Obama a pass when he just acts like a smarter version of George Bush.

By way of a disclaimer, our position is that we do not support the death penalty, and in particular we do not support the institution of war as the mutually preferred cultural institution for settling differences among nations. So we can only be appalled by the raucous celebration of what now appears to be the summary execution of a man already in custody.

It is perfectly obvious that there was never any intention of bringing Bin Laden back alive under any circumstances. If we have learned nothing else from recent history, it should have been anticipated that all we were told night one about the Bin Laden raid were just made up lies and fairy tales. What was portrayed initially as a "fire fight" might have consisted of one person firing back. And once that person was taken down, what proceeded after that can only be described as a precision "execution" operation of every adult male present.

None of this should surprise anyone. We have had people in custody now for upwards of 10 years already who will NEVER have an actual trial. So why would anyone think we would bring Bin Laden back for a trial? The clear order was to kill him on the spot regardless. Is there really any doubt of that? Bin Laden was an important long term CIA asset who turned on his handlers. A talking Bin Laden in custody was the last thing they could afford.

The word used most often night one in the corporate media about the Bin Laden killing was "justice". "Justice had been done," they said. There may be some primitive, ultimate "justice" in it. But the most appropriate choice of word, if our language has not been completely corrupted already, would be "revenge". Justice would be to put the man on trial before the world. But there is no law, even of war, that would permit the summary killing of a man already subdued and in custody, regardless of his crimes. Isn't that what the bad guys do?

"We don't need a trial!" Where have you heard those words shouted before, outside of the scene of lynch mob in a movie? The lynch mob is a grand old American tradition, and unfortunately not one to be proud of. The fact that historically those lynched were most likely innocent, where as Bin Laden proudly professed to his own guilt, changes nothing about the process. What value is a justice system if it could not convict someone like Bin Laden?

And anyone celebrating the manner in which Bin Laden was killed may in fact be celebrating the demise of that justice system MORE than the demise of Bin Laden himself. Meet the New American Lynch Mob.

And here is the Facebook link for the End The Wars In Afghanistan action page further above. [Facebook] Action Page: http://apps.facebook.com/fb_voices/acti ... m=pnum1078

And this is the Twitter reply for this same action @cxs #p1078

Please take action NOW, so we can win all victories that are supposed to be ours, and forward this alert as widely as possible.
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby Nordic » Mon May 16, 2011 3:41 pm

GREAT piece here:

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2011/05/ ... -into.html

Ignore the part about the plugs, the rest of is is great, and the most obvious thing I haven't seen anyone mention yet?

The video of "Osama" watching himself on TV?

He's holding the remote in his right hand. Osama was left-handed.

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Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon May 16, 2011 3:50 pm

Nordic wrote:He's holding the remote in his right hand. Osama was left-handed.

:doh:


perhaps he was ambidextrous..

multi-talented, that OBL.
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby Nordic » Mon May 16, 2011 4:02 pm

And there's that Pakistani guy from the neighborhood who says the guy in that video is his neighbor. Pretty sure that's been covered here already, just mentioning it again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13329078
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby JackRiddler » Mon May 16, 2011 4:17 pm

Nordic wrote:GREAT piece here:

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2011/05/ ... -into.html

Ignore the part about the plugs, the rest of is is great, and the most obvious thing I haven't seen anyone mention yet?

The video of "Osama" watching himself on TV?

He's holding the remote in his right hand. Osama was left-handed.

:doh:


Yes, I think he makes a good case, except for the part about the plugs. There are Euro power strips with flatter outlets and "Osama's" actually looks like ones I've possessed in my past lives in Europe. Can't find a picture of a strip but here are Euro plugs that would fit flatter outlets:

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Wait, here's a strip with one round and two flat outlets:

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