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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby backtoiam » Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:55 pm

CNN saying Russia is in an accidental conflict with the "U,S. led Isis coalition." I don't know if he mopped it up and corrected it later, slip of the tongue, or what...

https://youtu.be/p31uQWzaDv0
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:09 pm

sooner or later someone has to go to the Hague :shrug:


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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:12 pm

I have no problem with ruthless intelligence agencies, as long as they accomplish their job.


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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby General Patton » Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:12 pm

Iamwhomiam » Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:09 pm wrote:
sooner or later someone has to go to the Hague :shrug:


I knew they put the black guy in the lead role of this movie for some reason.


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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:34 pm

For you folk pushing the One World Government NWO meme, It's all been well planned out and there are NO fuck ups and things are following that plan to a T - well then Putin's time to play has come and now Obama gets to sit on the bench.

For me, it's all about pleasing the arms merchants, for whom war is like hitting the jackpot on an unbelievable scale, and their megalomanical puppets who rule with the appearance of real power do everything to keep them happy as though their life depended upon it.

Nobody goes to war unless the war hawks desire it.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby km artlu » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:45 pm

Thank you very much Alice for your posts on the ongoing Syrian and regional developments. It always enhances my understanding when you post here and I always appreciate that you do.

At the risk of lowering the discourse, I can't resist remarking on the buffoonery of Charlie Rose. In his interview with Assad he says, "Secretary Kerry has called you a brutal dictator." Then he emphatically adds, "Secretary Kerry!!"

You know, the asshole who invites me to lunch and makes me feel important. Who provides me with access. Who shapes my thoughts and the contexts within which those thoughts occur. Who, when he calls my office, inflates my craven ego in such a delightful way, and from whom I am honored to take my talking points.

American journalism - bought for a wink and a wank.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby conniption » Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:54 am

SANA

President al-Assad: New anti-terrorism coalition must succeed, otherwise the whole region will be destroyed


4 October، 2015

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Damascus, SANA – President Bashar al-Assad gave an interview to the Iranian Khabar TV channel.

Following is the full text of the interview:

http://sana.sy/en/?p=56697
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby AlicetheKurious » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:19 am

backtoiam wrote:I am not insinuating that this is the case but my cynical side never sleeps.

Alice do you think it is a possibility that the U.S. is secretly playing footsy under the table with Russia? Is it possible that the factions armed by the U.S. have become so unmanageable that in order to save face they are letting Russia clean up the mess? Maybe after it is cleaned up Russia and the U.S. have agreed on a split of the spoils?


No. My purpose in writing that long essay Decoding the "Middle East" was to provide a background/blueprint that would enable people to put "news" from the region into context and understand it.

Once you can appreciate how extremely destructive the US/Zionist camp has been, and the cataclysmic level of threat it represents not only to Arab countries but to the world, the current actions of both Russia and China make perfect sense. They are the strategic targets, after all. The Arabs are collateral damage.

But as I warned many months ago, the "Middle East" is undergoing seismic shifts that just may transform the global balance of power. It's too early to tell how this will end, but the stakes couldn't be higher for all the sides involved. The Russian/Chinese actions are just the first of what promise to be many big surprises and reversals that we can expect in the next few weeks, months and years. The Plan I described in the aforementioned essay was fiendishly clever, and well on its way to being realized, but in the end, its formulators are only men and, as the saying goes, "The best-laid plans of mice and men often go awry."
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby Sounder » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:29 am

Nordic wrote....
We just witnessed what is the biggest military and political blunder of my life time. And I'm not young. Obama and his idiot neo-con pals just had their ASSES handed to them by the rest of the world. This is possibly the most embarrassing event to ever happen to the United States.

Obama and the U.S. are in the position of defending Al Queda terrorists and admitting they funded and trained these enemies of the state in order to destabilize Iraq. Aiding and abetting the enemy, the very people they claim attacked us on 9-11 and who we have been fighting and killing for 14 years.

That is treason, pure and simple. The enormity of this is pretty fucking enormous. But it's not even the half of it.

The U.S. also just got played by Russia so hard, with Putin pulling the rug out from under them so quickly and with such sudden force that their asses haven't even hit the ground yet. It's a glorious thing to witness, actually, with Russia suddenly in the drivers seat, destroying our terrorist proxy force and forcing the U.S. to admit that ISIS is indeed the US proxy force. Gosh no wonder we couldn't/wouldn't kill these fools.



Ya gotta love it knowing that the imperial world shapers (Soros type thinkers) are shitting their pants and are to slow to get to a toilet.
All these things will continue as long as coercion remains a central element of our mentality.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby Harvey » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:59 am

If money is the ideological commitment, investments are returned whichever narrative triumphs in the the theatre. How would one best force other kinds of commitment upon those detached enough to view the world in this way? Bearing in mind the tendency toward unforeseen consequences...
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby Sounder » Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:32 am

If money is the ideological commitment, investments are returned whichever narrative triumphs in the the theatre.


Sad and true.

How would one best force other kinds of commitment upon those detached enough to view the world in this way?


This can all happen without 'force' as we collectively recognize that the other, rather than being a threat, is essential to our own unfolding.

Bearing in mind the tendency toward unforeseen consequences...


Those suckers are hard to dodge but they are a primary byproduct of coercive and prescriptive 'solutions'.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby tapitsbo » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:41 am

Alice what do you see happening with places like the Gulf States, not to mention Sunnis in Iraq and Syria, Libya, etc.

Do you feel Pakistan is a significant player in the Middle East?

What do you make of the links of the current Egyptian government to the USA (I realize you may not like or be able to answer this question, I really appreciate your other writings though).

What do you think of European opposition leaders like Jeremy Corbyn or Marine Le Pen and their relation to the Middle East? I realize the racist or anti-Islamic bent of some of the right-leaning ones is unattractive but there seems to be a split in their ranks between alignment with Russia, Iran, etc. on the one hand and an alignment with Israel on the other. In another thread I asked about the (supposedly good) relationship between Russia and Israel but nobody seemed interested in providing their opinions on the shape it's presently taking.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby backtoiam » Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:45 pm

More recently, during a joint press appearance in Berlin with German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier on September 20, Secretary of State John Kerry gave a further hint at what is to come, announcing the Obama administration’s plan to dramatically increase the flow of refugees into the United States, citing specifically refugees from Syria. “I’m pleased to announce today that the United States will significantly increase our numbers for refugee resettlement in the course of this next year and the year after,” Kerry said. “Last year I think we were at 70,000,” he noted, referring to refugees worldwide accepted by the United States. “We are now going to go up to 85,000 with at least, and I underscore the ‘at least’ — it is not a ceiling, it’s a floor — of 10,000 over the next year from Syria specifically even as we also receive more refugees from other areas. And in the next fiscal year, we’ll target 100,000, and if it’s possible to do more, we’ll do [more].”
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby backtoiam » Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:48 pm

For example, nearly 5,000 migrants seeking asylum are crowded into what was once a U.S. military installation in Giessen, in western Germany, from where reports of numerous rapes, sexual assaults, and forced prostitution emanate. Four women’s organizations sent a letter to the minister of integration and social affairs in the German state of Hesse, charging that many of the men in the camps regard women as “inferior,” and consider unaccompanied women as “fair game.” The letter added, “These are not isolated incidents.”

And it is not just adult women.

Johannes-Wilhelm Roerig, Germany's federal commissioner for child sexual abuse issues, expressed concern that refugee children are also victims of sexual assault. At the migrant camp in Detmold, in central Germany, a 13-year-old Muslim girl was raped by a fellow migrant. A local newspaper’s investigation uncovered that the police had tried to keep news of the incident from leaking out, fearing it would give “legitimacy” to critics of mass migration. Detmold Police Chief Bernd Flake did not apologize for the incident, but rather insisted that the policy of not reporting crimes in the migrant facilities would continue.
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Re: US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

Postby ultramegagenius » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:02 pm

backtoiam » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:45 pm wrote:
More recently, during a joint press appearance in Berlin with German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier on September 20, Secretary of State John Kerry gave a further hint at what is to come, announcing the Obama administration’s plan to dramatically increase the flow of refugees into the United States, citing specifically refugees from Syria. “I’m pleased to announce today that the United States will significantly increase our numbers for refugee resettlement in the course of this next year and the year after,” Kerry said. “Last year I think we were at 70,000,” he noted, referring to refugees worldwide accepted by the United States. “We are now going to go up to 85,000 with at least, and I underscore the ‘at least’ — it is not a ceiling, it’s a floor — of 10,000 over the next year from Syria specifically even as we also receive more refugees from other areas. And in the next fiscal year, we’ll target 100,000, and if it’s possible to do more, we’ll do [more].”
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/im ... -your-town


And not a minute too soon! Now that rapprochement with Cuba is going forward, we're going to need a new generation of embittered irredentists to deploy for acts of skulduggery. All we need is to revive the PLO to attribute all their madcap capers to.
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