'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

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Postby Nordic » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:27 am

The Consul wrote:no kidding...the speech...it was like pushing in 911 and getting Dial-A-Prayer on the other end...guess that is what we've come to



Hey, whoever you are .... I'm really enjoying your comments and I have to say I LOVED that one. Awesome!
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby ninakat » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:44 am

Julia W wrote:2 more stories from businessinsider....

http://www.businessinsider.com/matthew- ... ulf-2010-6

Matthew Simmons: The Relief Well Will Fail, And An Undersea Oil Lake May Be Covering 40% Of The Gulf
Joe Weisenthal | Jun. 15, 2010, 2:21 PM | 3,881 | 30

Image: AP
Matthew Simmons is on Bloomberg, living up to his moniker as the "Dr. Doom" of the oil spill.

He confidently predicts that the relief well will fail (due to structural problems with the pipe) and that unless we're content with having 100K+ barrels spill each day, then we have no choice to nuke the well.

Beyond that, he suspects that a giant undersea oil lake may already be covering 40% of the Gulf.

Update: And he just said he's embarrassed by his old firm, Simmons & Co, for upgrading shares of BP, which he think will go to 0.

http://www.businessinsider.com/governme ... day-2010-6

Government Doubles BP Leak Estimate To 60,000 Barrels Per Day

Gus Lubin | Jun. 15, 2010, 5:09 PM | 713 | 16
The government just upped the Deepwater Horizon leak estimate to 60,000 barrels per day:

Secretary Chu, Secretary Salazar, and Dr. McNutt convened a group of federal and independent scientists on Monday to discuss new analyses and data points obtained over the weekend to produce updated flow rate estimates. Working together, U.S. government and independent scientists estimate that the most likely flow rate of oil today is between 35,000 and 60,000 barrels per day. The improved estimate is based on more and better data that is now available and that helps increase the scientific confidence in the accuracy of the estimate.

Just last week the official estimate was 20,000 to 40,000 barrels per day; up from BP's long-standing estimate of 5,000 barrels per day; up from the original estimate of 1,000 barrels per day. At this point Cassandras like Matthew Simmons are starting to look a lot more credible.


Here's a link to the video of that Bloomberg interview with Simmons from Tuesday. Interestingly, Simmons states that he believes the government "will take all [BP's] cash." He continues to push for the nuclear device, and is increasing his estimates of how much oil has spilled and continues to spill. I hope the fuck he's wrong (about the amounts) and right about the government taking BP's cash.

Matt Simmons Believes Oil Covers 40% Of Gulf Beneath The Surface

click link for *video*

Matt Simmons was on Bloomberg earlier, adding some additional perspective to his original appearance on the station, in which he initially endorsed the nuclear option as the only viable way to resolve the oil spill. Simmons refutes even the latest oil spill estimate of 45,000-60,000 barrels per day, and in quoting research by the Thomas Jefferson research vessel which was compiled late on Sunday, quantifies the leak at 120,000 bpd. What is scarier is that according to the Jefferson the oil lake underneath the surface of the water could be covering up to 40% of the entire Gulf of Mexico. Simmons also says that as the leak has no casing, a relief well will not work, and the only possible resolution is, as he said previously, to use a small nuclear explosion to convert the rock to glass. Simmons concludes that as punishment for BP’s arrogance and stupidity the government “will take all their cash.” Now if only our own administration could tell us the truth about what is really happening in the gulf…
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby lupercal » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:47 am

From Riddler's CounterPunch article at the top:

From 1953 to 1979, Iran was a BP prison, polluted and poor, run with an iron fist by the company and its puppet, the shah.

Now it is drilling offshore near the US in the Gulf of Mexico. Many Americans in the region are beginning to feel the pain and outrage Iranians endured for 70 years—getting a small taste of how BP goes Beyond Politics.

That's crossed my mind too. Also that BP is getting a touch impatient with Obama's money grubbing. Doesn't he realize he can go the way of Mossadeq if necessary? No doubt the CIA would be glad to help their old friends in the oil business, just like in 1953, also like in 1963.

I think this is why Obama's speech got panned on the chat shows, also on DU, which surprised me -- as weak and overdue as it was, he pushed back ever so gently and wrung a few bil in damages out of BP, so he got slammed. Few on DU seem to get this, and the media aren't going to tell them, so the first time Obama shows his teeth, however feebly, they eviscerate him. Chickens coming home to roost, I guess.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Nordic » Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:02 am

http://motherjones.com/rights-stuff/201 ... -mole-more

More Dirty Details From My BP Mole

— By Mac McClelland| Wed Jun. 16, 2010 3:02 AM PDT

You know the story: Boy calls girl, girl goes to pick up boy, boy and girl go sit on a beautiful beachside deck to enjoy the night breeze and listen to the waves crash as he tells her a bunch of terrible things that are going on at an oil-spill cleanup site. Yes, I had a date with Elmer, my mole inside BP's cleanup operation, and he painted a grim picture of the conditions for both workers and wildlife at Louisiana's Elmer's Island Wildlife Refuge.

First, the workers: The men on Elmer's Island don't wear respirators since BP and OSHA have thrown precaution to the wind and deemed them unnecessary. But the only type of air-monitoring equipment Elmer's ever seen on the island are little multigas meters that are not up to the job: They're designed for indoor use, clog easily, and only measure limited types of pollutants. And despite the known dangers of dispersants and the toxic chemicals in crude (I can attest that contact with the stuff washing up on the beach can burn), workers aren't even wearing protective Tyvek suits anymore. Of course, there are medics on hand to treat anyone who gets hurt or sick. Unfortunately, any worker who asks for a medic's help is automatically drug tested, which, for some, can be a powerful incentive to not report injuries. (Not that keeping a cleanup job necessarily equals getting paid: Elmer says the contractors continue to lose workers' paychecks, a problem he told me about the last time we talked and that has since been confirmed by the local papers.)

Cleanup workers on these South Louisiana beaches aren't the only ones who could use more protections. What Elmer told me echoed the reports that BP isn't exactly doing everything in its power to keep track of the toll the spill is taking on wildlife. In nearby Port Fourchon, where he has also worked, there are markers to denote wildlife nesting areas, but they aren't clearly labeled and no one knows what they mean, so workers drive and trample over sensitive habitats. One day last week, Elmer and his coworkers came upon eight oiled pelicans, but though they called the official number to report their findings, no one had come to collect the birds by the time his shift ended many hours later. (A representative from the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries has yet to respond to my request for comment.) Workers on Elmer's have not been instructed to report dead animals for collection or autopsy. Elmer said he'd recently come upon a dead crab and, knowing no one was going to come to examine it, decided to slice it open himself. Black oil poured out.

I've seen some pathetic excuses for cleanup out here—were the workers on Elmer's at least making some progress? "They're not being effective out here," Elmer said. "Two days after your article, they bused in twice as many workers, so they're up to 120 guys on Elmer's now, but I can't see any considerable difference. They're only working five sites and it's eight miles of beach. No one seems concerned about cleaning it up. The contractors are getting their money; they don't care. They've got all these people out there, but they're not accomplishing anything."

Oh, wait. Not nothing: "They've brought in prostitutes." No one knows who the "they" that brought in the pack of hookers is, but the gals have definitely arrived, and you can buy time with one for $200. It only took someone a whole month even to figure out that it would be lucrative to sell sex to guys earning 44 hours of overtime a week and living in camps and converted 18-wheelers.


What a class act by all involved.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby hanshan » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:50 am

lupercal wrote:From Riddler's CounterPunch article at the top:

From 1953 to 1979, Iran was a BP prison, polluted and poor, run with an iron fist by the company and its puppet, the shah.

Now it is drilling offshore near the US in the Gulf of Mexico. Many Americans in the region are beginning to feel the pain and outrage Iranians endured for 70 years—getting a small taste of how BP goes Beyond Politics.



That's crossed my mind too. Also that BP is getting a touch impatient with Obama's money grubbing. Doesn't he realize he can go the way of Mossadeq if necessary? No doubt the CIA would be glad to help their old friends in the oil business, just like in 1953, also like in 1963.

I think this is why Obama's speech got panned on the chat shows, also on DU, which surprised me -- as weak and overdue as it was, he pushed back ever so gently and wrung a few bil in damages out of BP, so he got slammed. Few on DU seem to get this, and the media aren't going to tell them, so the first time Obama shows his teeth, however feebly, they eviscerate him. Chickens coming home to roost, I guess.


y'know, the good ole us of a has indeed become the banana republic ground under the jackboot
of corporatocracy. See Seven Sisters:
http://www.amazon.com/Seven-Sisters-great-companies-shaped/dp/067063591X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1276774592&sr=1-1


There is no end to the blinders of naivete; & no, he hasn't yet realized he's just a tool.
DU? Surely you jest.

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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby stickdog99 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:58 pm

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/37583/

No plan

What is also coming to light in this disaster is how completely unprepared the United States was for an oil spill. This omission is made worst by the history supposedly taught by the 1989 Exxon Valdez spill in Alaska.

The banana republic of Venezuela developed an “Oil Spill Contingency Plan” in 1990.

The little country of Norway, in a reaction to its Ekofisk Bravo platform blowout in 1977, setup a fully resourced, fully funded, and fully trained (with annual “live” oil spill response and recovery drills) organization for responding to spills the following year in the Norwegian Clean Seas Association for Operating Companies (NOFO).

In 1993, the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) developed a project On Oil Spill Preparedness and Response (OSPAR) to deal with an Exxon Valdez type calamity. It was initiated by Japan, but the program includes Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Philippines, and Thailand.

Absent from that list is Vietnam. But even that emerging nation, which has experienced more than 100 minor oil spills since 1987, developed in 2005 a program for “bioremediation of oil spills in Vietnam.”

China, Canada, and Australia all have national oil spill contingency plans. In the United States, we don’t have one. The U.S. Minerals Management Services, which falls under the supervision of the Department of the Interior, does not have its own oil spill response plan.

In the infinite wisdom of lobbyists and Congress, MMS long ago decided to pass the responsibility of protecting U.S. coastlines and waterways to the oil companies that operate on the U.S. continental shelf.

That despite the devastation wrought by Exxon Valdez oil spill. That despite the fallout from the terrorist attacks of 9/11—vulnerable offshore oil installations are inviting targets for terrorism. That despite the damage caused in Hurricane Katrina.

Instead, what the United States has—it’s far less than what Vietnam is currently developing to protect its pristine beaches and fisheries from a spill—is a dysfunctional organization in MMS that rubber stamped BP PLC’s 582-page “regional oil spill plan” for the Gulf.

The boilerplate document cited protecting seals and walruses from oil contamination, even though those animals don’t live in tropical waters. What does that say about MMS? Or the other oil operators in the Gulf? Are their oil spill response plans just as flimsy?

From MMS’s Website, it states: “MMS requires that every OCS (Offshore Continental Shelf) owner or operator prepare and submit for approval an Oil-Spill Response Plan for each of their offshore facilities, which describes in detail what actions their spill management team will take should an oil spill occur. Included in the response plan is a ‘worst-case’ discharge response scenario. This scenario must include the identification of any onshore areas that could be affected by an accidental spill from an operator’s facility. The lessee is also required to identify their contracted spill response equipment and materials, the necessary trained personnel, and the time needed to deploy those resources in the event of a ‘worst-case’ spill. The plan must also outline responses to less severe spills or emergencies. As part of the MMS review of this document, MMS verifies whether the operator has a contract with an approved Oil-Spill Removal Organization (OSRO) that is capable of providing qualified personnel and sufficient equipment to respond to their worst-case discharge spill volume.”

That paragraph best sums up the ineffective, scatter shot, reactionary oil spill response and cleanup to the BP disaster that has been seen to date. Multiple agencies—including the U.S. Coast Guard, MMS, the EPA, and OSHA—a floundering White House and the desperate state governments of the Gulf have been involved in finger-pointing while referring to BP as being in charge of a national emergency.

This has been disgraceful. A layman could’ve seen how overlapping responsibilities, a glacially slow regulatory process, and a contingency plan cobbled together overnight would work as poorly as it has.

When everyone is in charge, no one is in charge.

As the greatest nation on Earth, with many of the best minds, universities, technology, and wealth, the United States not only possesses the ability and capabilities to deal with and combat oil spills, but we should be the world leader in both plan and execution.

Of all the modern and third world countries with a shoreline to protect from an oil spill having their own national response and contingency plans in place, it’s time for the United States to follow suit and develop one plan, in one program, in one agency that will be 100 percent in charge during the next oil spill crisis.

Anything less will tempt the next catastrophe to wash up on our shores.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby stickdog99 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:10 pm

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... st_Popular

On May 19, almost a month after BP PLC's Deepwater Horizon rig exploded, the White House tallied its response to the resulting oil spill. Twenty thousand people had been mobilized to protect the shore and wildlife. More than 1.38 million feet of containment boom had been set to trap oil. And 655,000 gallons of petroleum-dispersing chemicals had been injected into the Gulf of Mexico.

Investors were relieved by BP's decision to suspend dividends, hoping it would ease pressure on the company over its handling of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill. Grainne McCarthy, David Weidner and Guy Chazan discuss. Also, David Wessel discusses America's system of home ownership, saying that although it has been celebrated for putting so many families into their own homes, it has become, as one economist put it, "a case study in failure."

That same day, as oil came ashore on Louisiana's Gulf coast, thousands of feet of boom sat on a dock in Terrebonne Parish, waiting for BP contractors to install it. Two more days would pass before it was laid offshore.

The federal government sprang into action early following the vast BP oil spill. But along the beaches and inlets of the Gulf, signs abound that the response has faltered.

A Wall Street Journal examination of the government response, based on federal documents and interviews with White House, Coast Guard, state and local officials, reveals that confusion over what to do delayed some decision-making. There were disagreements among federal agencies and between national, state and local officials.

BP said it was suspending dividend payments for much of this year and created a $20 billion fund to pay injured parties. Alan Murray and Joe White discuss. Also, Steven Gillon, a presidential historian discusses Barack Obama's leadership style in the context of other presidents who have faced serious crises.

Federal officials changed their minds on key moves, sometimes more than once. Chemical dispersants to break up the oil were approved, then judged too toxic, then re-approved. The administration criticized, debated and then partially approved a proposal by Louisiana politicians to build up eroded barrier islands to keep the oil at bay.

"We have to learn to be more flexible, more adaptable and agile," says Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the federal government's response leader, in an interview. Because two decades have passed since the Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska, he says, "you have an absence of battle-hardened veterans" in the government with experience fighting a massive spill. "There's a learning curve involved in that."

It is unclear to what extent swifter or more decisive action by the government would have protected the Gulf's fragile coastline. The White House's defenders say the spill would have overwhelmed any defense, no matter how well coordinated.

President Barack Obama, in his address to the nation Tuesday night, said that "a mobilization of this speed and magnitude will never be perfect, and new challenges will always arise." He added: "If there are problems in the operation, we will fix them."

Under federal law, oil companies operating offshore must file plans for responding to big spills. The Coast Guard oversees the preparation of government plans. In the event of a spill, the oil company is responsible for enacting its plan and paying for the cleanup, subject to federal oversight. If the spill is serious enough, the government takes charge, directing the response.

BP's plan, submitted to the Minerals Management Service, envisioned containing a spill far larger than government estimates of the Gulf spill. Among other things, it said it would hire contractors to skim oil from the water, spray chemical dispersants on the slick and lay boom along the coast.

Two pictures are emerging of the government's response to the U.S.'s biggest environmental disaster. The federal government was engaged early on and responded forcefully. But along the beaches and inlets of the Gulf of Mexico, there are plenty of signs that the response has faltered. See details on three flanks: boom, chemical dispersants and berms.

The Coast Guard's spill-response plan for the area around New Orleans, updated in August 2009, said that laying boom would be one of the main ways to protect the coastline.

When Adm. Allen took charge of fighting the BP spill, he found that both sets of plans were inadequate for such a large and complex spill.

"Clearly some things could have been done better," says a BP spokesman about the company's response, which he says has been "unparalleled."

President Obama first heard of the problem the night of April 20, when a senior National Security Council aide pulled him aside to tell him a drilling rig 50 miles off the Louisiana coast had exploded. It would be "potentially a big problem," the aide said.

Adm. Allen, then the Coast Guard's commandant, was dispatched to the scene; he later said he knew right away the spill would be serious. The next day, Interior Department Deputy Secretary David Hayes flew to Louisiana to set up a command center, leaving Washington in such haste that he had to buy a change of underwear at a Louisiana K-Mart.

On April 22, the day the rig sank, the president convened his first Oval Office meeting on the disaster, with Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar and others. As far as they knew, no oil was leaking.

Two days later, the White House received word that oil was escaping into the Gulf. White House science adviser John Holdren, an environmental scientist, pulled aside two top security officials, White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan and National Security Council chief of staff Denis McDonough. He pressed them on what secret technology the government had—a submarine, for example—that could help, Mr. McDonough recalls.

The answer was none.

On the evening of April 28, the NSC's Mr. McDonough and a White House aide interrupted a meeting in the White House's secure situation room. Oil was gushing faster than previously believed. Officials now expected the oil sheen to reach the Louisiana coast the next day.
More on the Spill

See graphics covering how the spill happened, what's being done to stop it, and the impact on the region.

The federal government's priority was to keep the oil offshore, partly by laying boom. The coast has hundreds of miles of inlets, islands and marshes, which makes that strategy difficult. "There's not enough boom in the world to boom from Texas to Florida, so we're doing triage," Benjamin Cooper, a Coast Guard commander, told shrimpers and other residents in Dulac, La., in mid-May.

There were problems from the start. The first weekend in May, when the president made his initial trip to the region, the water was rough. Contractors hired by BP to lay boom off St. Bernard Parish, east of New Orleans, mostly stayed ashore, says Fred Everhardt, a councilman. Shrimpers took matters into their own hands, laying 18,000 feet of boom that weekend, compared to the roughly 4,000 feet laid by the BP contractor, Mr. Everhardt says. BP did not respond to requests for comment about the incident.

Edwin Stanton, the Coast Guard official in charge of the New Orleans region, says workers overseen by the government had laid tens of thousands of feet of boom the first week of the spill. But he acknowledges problems getting it to the right place. He says the Coast Guard decided it needed to accommodate local parish presidents, who all demanded boom even though they all didn't equally need it. Without the competing demands, he says, "we might have been able to use what boom we had to greater effect."

To make matters worse, the government didn't have the right kind of boom. Boom built for open ocean is bigger and stronger than that made for flat, sheltered water. The bigger boom is expensive and was in short supply, Mr. Stanton says.

"We really didn't have the appropriate boom sizes," he says. "I think we would have liked to put out open-water boom at the big passes, but we just didn't have enough."

As the oil spread east, Alabama Gov. Bob Riley wanted to stop it from crossing into Perdido Bay, a key to Alabama and Florida's fishing and tourism industries. In mid-May, the governor and Coast Guard officials worked out a plan to hold the oil back using heavy boom built for open ocean. Alabama authorities scoured the globe for the boom they needed, says a spokesman for the governor.

In late May, they found it in Bahrain and flew it to the Alabama coast. Days later, the Coast Guard gave it to Louisiana.

Mr. Riley was furious. The Coast Guard and Alabama authorities instead deployed lighter boom. On June 10, oil breached Perdido Bay.

"This isn't a fight between Louisiana and Alabama, it's not between governors," the governor's spokesman says. "But it is incredibly disappointing to have those resources taken from us."

A spokesman for Adm. Allen says the boom was needed to protect a bay in Louisiana, and was taken "well before oil was in sight off Alabama."

Louisiana officials, frustrated that the boom wasn't working, proposed building sand "berms" along the coast to block oil from reaching shore. Dredges would suck sand from the sea floor and spray it in a protective arc along barrier islands. On May 11, state officials asked the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for an emergency permit to build some 130 miles of berms.

Several federal agencies criticized the proposal. In written comments to the Army Corps of Engineers, the Environmental Protection Agency said the berms might not be built in time to stop oil from hitting shore. It worried the process might spread oil-tainted sand and change the water's flow, possibly hurting marshes. White House officials also were skeptical.

Frustrated by the delay, Louisiana's Republican governor, Bobby Jindal, sent the Louisiana Army National Guard to plug gaps in barrier islands, for which the state had legal authority.

EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson was worried about another threat: the use of dispersants, chemicals designed to break oil into particles that can be digested by bacteria. BP was using unprecedented amounts—about 1.3 million gallons so far, according to federal officials.

According to EPA data, one dispersant, Corexit 9500, is especially toxic to the shrimp and fish used in tests. But it was available in large quantities, so that's what BP was using.

On May 10, with the boom and berm plans foundering, Ms. Jackson met about 25 Louisiana State University scientists to discuss the spill. Most of the scientists urged her not to let BP spray dispersants directly at the leaking well without more research, recalls Robert Carney, one of the LSU professors. Ms. Jackson responded that the EPA was "under extreme pressure from BP" to approve the move, Mr. Carney recalls. An EPA official confirmed Ms. Jackson met with the LSU scientists.

Five days later, the EPA said it would let BP spray the dispersant on the wellhead.

In mid-May, large globs of oil started washing ashore.

The EPA, under pressure from scientists and environmental groups, abruptly turned against using the dispersant Corexit. On May 20, a day after Ms. Jackson was grilled by lawmakers, the EPA said it had given BP until that night to find a less-toxic alternative or explain why it couldn't. "We felt it was important to ensure that all possible options were being explored," Ms. Jackson said.

BP responded in a letter that makers of other dispersants wouldn't be able to supply large volumes for 10 to 14 days. It said it intended to keep using Corexit, which it said "appears to have fewer long-term effects than other dispersants."

In Terrebonne Parish, BP contractors still hadn't installed the boom, angering Coast Guard officials. "I could just see the fury in their eyes," Michel Claudet, parish president, says of the Coast Guard officials. The poor coordination with BP contractors, he says, "was just a common occurrence." Boom installation finally began on May 21.

Interior Secretary Salazar lit into BP on a trip to Louisiana, threatening to "push them out of the way" and let the government take over ground-level operations. He was contradicted by the Coast Guard's Adm. Allen, who suggested the government didn't have the technical know-how to fight the spill alone.

On May 24, the EPA's Ms. Jackson said the agency wouldn't stop BP from using Corexit, after all, given the lack of alternatives. She said BP would have to "significantly" cut the amount it was using while it and the EPA looked for a better approach.

Louisiana's Gov. Jindal was losing patience. That same day, Homeland Security Secretary Napolitano traveled to Gulf and poured cold water on Louisiana's berm plan. The administration, she said, was looking into "some responses that would be as effective" without the environmental risks.

Standing by Ms. Napolitano, Mr. Jindal didn't disguise his frustration. "We know we have to take action and take matters into our own hands if we are going to win this fight to protect our coast," he said.

On May 27, the administration changed course on the berms. The Corps of Engineers authorized construction of about 40 miles of the 130 miles of berm proposed by Louisiana. Complicating matters, Adm. Allen ordered BP to pay for only a small portion of the 40 miles, to "assess" their effectiveness.

Mr. Obama got an earful when he met state and parish officials the next day on a visit to Grand Isle, a barrier island south of New Orleans. BP crews had arrived prior to the president's arrival and worked feverishly to tidy up the beaches. They left after he flew out.

Before leaving, the president ordered Adm. Allen to look into building more berms. On June 1, Adm. Allen convened a meeting in New Orleans, where Gov. Jindal and parish chiefs demanded BP pay for more berms. The next day, Adm. Allen said the administration was ordering BP to pay for all 40 miles authorized. The work began Sunday.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Elvis » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:09 pm

Jack R posted

Beyond Petroleum, Beyond Pollution, Beyond Politics
A Short History of BP

By M. KAMIAR


Thanks Jack R, for posting that. Below are some further details, from Carroll Quigley's 1966 book, "Tragedy and Hope" [pp 1056-1060]. AIOC (BP) was plainly cheating Iran out of oil royalties, bigtime.

[...]

Gradually the nationalization forces began to coalesce about a strange figure, Dr. Muhammad Mossadegh of an old, wealthy, landed family which had served the Qajar dynasty as ministers of finance since the eighteenth century. Mossadegh was a Westernizer with an earned doctorate in economics from a Swiss university, a man of great personal courage and few personal ambitions or desires, who was con­vinced that national independence could be established and the obvious corruption of Iranian political life eliminated only by the recovery of Iranian control of its own economic life by nationalization of AIOC. Politically he was a moderate, but his strong emotional appeal to Iranian nationalism encouraged extremist reactions among his followers.

Long and fruitless discussions between AIOC and the Iranian govern­ment, with constant interference by the British government led to stalemate. The company insisted that its status was based on a contrac­tual agreement which could not be modified without its consent, while the British government maintained that the agreement was a matter of international public law, like a treaty, which it had a right to enforce. The Iranian government declared that it had the right as a sovereign state to nationalize an Iranian corporation operating under its law on its territory, subject only to adequate compensation and assumption of its contractual obligations.

The Iranian nationalist arguments against the company were numer­ous and detailed:

1. It had promised to train Iranians for all positions possible, but instead had used these only in menial tasks, trained few natives, and employed many foreigners.

2. It had reduced its payments to Iran, which were based on its profits, by reducing the amount of its profits by bookkeeping tricks. For example, it sold oil at very low prices to wholly owned subsidiaries outside Iran or to the British Navy, allowing the former to resell at
world prices so that AIOC made small profits, while the subsidiaries made very large profits not subject to Iranian royalty obligations. Iran believed that the profits of such wholly owned subsidiaries were really part of AIOC and should fall under the consolidated balance sheet of AIOC and thus make payments to Iran, but as late as 1950 AIOC admitted that the accounts of 59 such dummy corporations were not included in the AIOC accounts.

3. AIOC generally refused to pay Iranian taxes, especially income tax, but paid such taxes to Britain; at the same time, it calculated the Iranian profit royalties after such taxes, so that the higher British taxes went, the less the Iranian payment became. In effect, thus, Iran paid income tax to Britain. In 1933 AIOC paid £305,418 in British taxation and £274,412 in Iranian taxes; in 1948 the two figures were £28,310,353 and £1,369,328.

4. The payment to Iran was also reduced by putting profits into reserves or into company investments outside Iran, often in subsidiaries, and calculating the Iranian share only on the profits distributed as dividends. Thus in 1947, when profits were really £40.5 million, almost £14.9 million went to British income tax, £11.5 million went to re­serves, over £7.1 million went to stockholders (of which £3.3 million to the British government), and only £7.1 million to Iran. If the pay­ment to Iran had been calculated before taxes and reserves, it would have been at least £6 million more that year.

5. Moreover, AIOC was exempt from Iranian customs tariffs on goods necessary to its operation brought into the country. Since it considered everything it brought in, whatever it was, to be necessary, it deprived Iran of about £6 million a year by this.

6. The company paid only a very small portion of the social costs of its operations in Persia, drawing many persons to arid and uninhabited portions of the country and then providing very little of the costs of housing, education, or health.

7. The AIOC, as a member of the international petroleum cartel, reduced its oil production in Iran and thus reduced Iran's royalties.

8. The AIOC continued to calculate its payments to Iran in gold at £8.10s. per ounce for years after the world gold price had risen to £13 an ounce, while the American corporation, Aramco, in Saudi Arabia raised its gold price on demand.

9. The AIOC's monopoly on oil export from Iran prevented development of other Iranian oil fields in areas outside the AIOC concession.

As a consequence of all these activities, the Iranian nationalists of 1952 felt angered to think that Iran had given up 300 million tons of oil over fifty years and received £105 million, while Britain had in­vested only £20 million and obtained about £800 million in profits.

The Iranian opposition to nationalization was broken in March 1951, when the prime minister, All Razmara, and his minister of education were assassinated within a space of two weeks. The nationalization law was passed the following month and, at the same time, at the request of the Majlis, the shah appointed Mossadegh prime minister to carry it out. This was done with considerable turmoil, which included strikes by AIOC workers against mistimed British wage cuts, anti-British street riots, and the arrival of British gunboats at the head of the Persian Gulf. Rather than give up the enterprise or operate it for the Iranian govern­ment, AIOC began to curtail operations and ship home its engineers. On May 25, 1951, it appealed to the International Court of Justice in spite of Iranian protests that the case was a domestic one, not international. Only on July 22, 1952, did the court's decision uphold Iran's contention by refusing jurisdiction.

At first the United States, and especially its ambassador in Tehran, supported the Iranian position. It feared that British recalcitrance would drive Iran toward Russia, and was especially alarmed at the possibility of any landing of British forces, since this would allow the Soviet Union to invade the North Iranian provinces as provided in the Soviet-Iran Treaty of 1921. However, it soon became evident that the Soviet Union, while supporting Iran's position, was not going to interfere. The American position then became increasingly pro-British and anti-Mossadegh. This was intensified by the shift in administration from Truman to Eisenhower early in 1953, and by the pressures on the American govern­ment by the international petroleum cartel. At the same time, the American oil companies, which had bricflv hoped that they mi«ht replace AIOC in the Persian area, decided that their united front with AIOC in the world cartel was more valuable to them.

This world oil cartel had developed from a tripartite agreement signed on September 17, 1928 by Royal Dutch-Shell, Anglo-Iranian, and Standard Oil. The three signers were Sir Henri Deterding of Shell, Sir John (later Lord) Cadman of AIOC, and Walter C. Teagle of Esso. These agreed to manage oil prices on the world market by charging an agreed fixed price plus freight costs, and to store surplus oil which might weaken the fixed price level. By 1949 the cartel had as members the seven greatest oil companies of the world (Anglo-Iranian, Royal Dutch-Shell, Esso, Calso, Socony-Vacuum, Gulf, and Texaco). Excluding the United States domestic market, the Soviet Union, and Mexico, it controlled 92 percent of the world's reserves of oil, 88 percent of the world's production, 77 percent of the world's refining capacity, and 70 percent of the world's tonnage in ocean tankers.

As soon as Britain lost its case in the International Court of Justice and it became clear that Iran would go ahead with its nationalization, Britain put into effect a scries of reprisals against Iran which rapidly crippled the country. Iranian funds in Britain were blocked; its purchases in British-controlled markets were interrupted; and its efforts to sell oil abroad were frustrated by a combination of the British Navy and the world oil cartel (which closed its sales and distribution facilities to Iranian oil). These cut off a substantial portion of the Iranian governent's revenues and forced a drastic curtailment of government expendi­tures.

To deal with this situation, especially to cut the military budget, Mossadegh, in July 1952, asked for full powers from the Assembly. He was refused and resigned, but the Ahmad Ghavam government which replaced him lasted only six days, resigning under pressure of pro-Mossadegh street riots. Back in office, Mossadegh obtained dicta­torial power for six months. He broke off diplomatic relations with the British, closed down nine British consular offices, deported various British economic and cultural groups, and dismissed both the Senate and the Iranian Supreme Court, which were beginning to question his actions.

By that time (summer, 1953) almost irresistible forces were building up against Mossadegh, since lack of Soviet interference gave the West full freedom of action. The British, the AIOC, the world petroleum cartel, the American government, and the older Iranian elite led by the shah combined to crush Mossadegh. The chief effort came from the American supersecret intelligence agency (CIA) under the personal direction of its director, Allen W. Dulles, brother of the secretary of state. Dulles, as a former director of the Schroeder Bank in New York, was an old associate of Frank C. Tiarks, a partner in the Schroedcr Bank in London since 1902, and a director of the Bank of England in 1912-1945, as well as Lazard Brothers Bank, and the AIOC. It will be recalled that the Schroeder Bank in Cologne helped to arrange Hitler's accession to power as chancellor in January 1933.

Managing Mossadegh's fall in August, 1953, was considerably easier, since he left his defense wide open by an attack on the prerogatives of the Iranian Army, apparently in the belief that the army would be prevented from moving against him by his influence over the mobs in the streets of Tehran. But throughout the Near East, street mobs are easily roused and directed by those who are willing to pay, and Dulles had the unlimited secret funds of the CIA. From these he gave $10 million to Colonel H. Norman Schwartzkopf, former head of the New Jersey State Police, who was in charge of training the Imperial Iranian Gendarmerie, and this was judiciously applied in ways which changed the mobs' tune considcrablv from July to August 1953. The whole operation was directed bv Dulles himself from Switzerland where he was visited by Schwartzkopf, the American ambassador to Tehran, Loy Henderson, and messengers from the shah in the second week of August 1953.

Mossadegh purged the army of opposition elements without complete success in the spring of 1953, going so far as to arrest the chief of staff on March 1st. In July he sought to bypass the Assembly and demon­strate his irresistible popular support by having all his supporters resign from the Majlis (thus paralyzing its operations), and held a plebiscite in August to approve his policies. The official vote in the plebiscite was about two million approvals against twelve hundred disapprovals, but Mossadegh's days were numbered. On August 13th the shah precipitated planned anti-Mossadegh coup by naming General Fazlollah Zahedi as prime minister, and sent a messenger dismissing Mossadegh. The latter refused to yield, and called his supporters into the streets, where they rioted against the shah, who fled with his family to Rome. Two days later, anti- Mossadegh mobs, supported by the army, defeated Mossaegh's supporters in Tehran, killing several hundred. Mossadegh was forced out of office and replaced by General Zahedi. The shah returned from Italy on August 22nd.

The fall of Mossadegh ended the period of confusions which had ensued since the forced abdication of Reza Shah in 1941. From 1953 on, the shah and the army, backed by the conservative elite, controlled the country and the docile Majlis. Two weeks after the shah's counter-coup, the United States gave Iran an emergency grant of $45 million, increased its annual economic aid payment to $23 million, and began to pay $5 million a month in Mutual Security Funds. These payments reached a total of a quarter of a billion dollars over five years. In return Iran became a firm member of the Western bloc, joined the Baghdad Pact (Central Treaty Organization) in 1955, and provided a close base for surreptitious actions (such as U-2 overflights) against the Soviet Union. The Communist-controlled Tudeh Party, the only political party in Iran with the established doctrine and organized structure of such a party in the Western sense, had been officially banned in 1949 but had supported Mossadegh from underground, where it was relentlessly pursued after 1953.

By 1960 the shah felt his position sufficiently strong to try to pursue a policy of his own, and began to shift his alignment from the older elite group of landlords and army toward the more progressive groups of urban middle-class professional peoples which had supported Mossadegh. The chief evidence of this was an effort to adopt, more or less as his personal policy, a program of agrarian reform which sought to restrict each landlord's holdings to a single village, taking all excess lands over for government payments spread over ten years and granting the lands to the peasants who worked them in return for payments spread over fifteen years. The shah's own estates were among the first to be distri­buted, but by the end of 1962 over five thousand other villages had also been granted to their peasants.

In the meantime the oil dispute was settled by a compromise in Ocober 1954. The exploitation and marketing of Iran's oil was taken over by a consortium of existing petroleum companies from the world cartel and some American "independents," with a 40 percent interest held by AIOC itself. The previous disputes were compromised without too much difficulty once it was recognized that both sides had a common interest in preserving the world structure of managed oil prices in order to ensure substantial incomes to both. The incomes, to Iran were con­siderably increased, averaging about $250 million or more a year.


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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Belligerent Savant » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:18 pm

.

Likely already posted somewhere here...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html


While the BP oil geyser pumps millions of gallons of petroleum into the Gulf of Mexico, President Barack Obama and members of Congress may have to answer for the millions in campaign contributions they’ve taken from the oil and gas giant over the years.

BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Donations come from a mix of employees and the company’s political action committees — $2.89 million flowed to campaigns from BP-related PACs and about $638,000 came from individuals.

On top of that, the oil giant has spent millions each year on lobbying — including $15.9 million last year alone — as it has tried to influence energy policy.

During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records.

An Obama spokesman rejected the notion that the president took big oil money.

“President Obama didn’t accept a dime from corporate PACs or federal lobbyists during his presidential campaign,” spokesman Ben LaBolt said. “He raised $750 million from nearly four million Americans. And since he became president, he rolled back tax breaks and giveaways for the oil and gas industry, spearheaded a G20 agreement to phase out fossil fuel subsidies, and made the largest investment in American history in clean energy incentives.”

In Congress, Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.), who last week cautioned that the incident should “not be used inappropriately” to halt Obama’s push for expansion of offshore drilling, has been one of the biggest beneficiaries of BP’s largesse. Her comments created some blowback, with critics complaining that she is too blasé about the impact of the disaster, even though she was among the first lawmakers to call for a federal investigation into the spill.

As the top congressional recipient in the last cycle and one of the top BP cash recipients of the past two decades, Landrieu banked almost $17,000 from the oil giant in 2008 alone and has lined her war chest with more than $28,000 in BP cash overall.

“Campaign contributions, from energy companies or from environmental groups, have absolutely no impact on Sen. Landrieu’s policy agenda or her response to this unprecedented disaster in the Gulf,” said Landrieu spokesman Aaron Saunders. “The senator is proud of the broad coalition she’s built since her first day in the Senate to address the energy and environmental challenges in Louisiana and in the nation. This disaster only makes the effort to promote and save Louisiana’s coast all that more important.”

Several BP executives have given directly to Landrieu’s campaign, including current and previous U.S. operation Presidents Lamar McKay and Robert Malone. Other donors include Margaret Hudson, BP’s America vice president, and Benjamin Cannon, federal affairs director for the U.S. branch. Donations ranged from $1,000 to $2,300 during the past campaign cycle.

Environmentalists complain that Landrieu has played down the impact of oil spills.

“I mean, just the gallons are so minuscule compared to the benefits of U.S. strength and security, the benefits of job creation and energy security,” Landrieu said at a hearing last month on offshore drilling. “So while there are risks associated with everything, I think you understand that they are quite, quite minimal.”

“They own Mary Landrieu and the rest of the Louisiana delegation,” said Greenpeace Research Director Kert Davies. “They have more money, disposable income and a fleet of dispensable lobbyists to beat the band.”

Other politicians with ties to coastal states or states with BP refineries have also reaped benefits from the fourth largest company in the world.

The top congressional recipients of BP campaign cash include Republican Rep. Don Young of the oil-intensive Alaska delegation, who has received almost as much as Obama, raking in $73,300 during his congressional tenure. Also on the list is Sen. George Voinovich (R-Ohio), whose state has a BP refinery in Toledo and who has raked in $41,400. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has received $44,899.

“Make no mistake: BP ranks among the most powerful corporate forces in U.S. politics,” said Dave Levinthal, spokesman for the Center for Responsive Politics. “It donates hundreds of thousands of dollars every election cycle through its employees and political action committee and is routinely a seven- or eight-figure federal lobbying powerhouse each year.”

In 2008 alone, BP gave $37,000 to members of the House Energy Committee and $106,501 to members of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, which deals with security issues facing the nation’s oil supply.

BP has also evolved in its corporate giving over the past decade, shifting more money to Democrats. In 2000, the company gave almost 39 percent more to Republicans than to Democrats. But by 2008, Democrats had nearly pulled even with Republicans on BP donations.

Moreover, the company has nearly tripled the amount of money it has spent on lobbying, from about $5.7 million in 1999 to $15.9 million last year, according to lobbying disclosures.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby lupercal » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:31 am

hanshan wrote:There is no end to the blinders of naivete; & no, he hasn't yet realized he's just a tool.
DU? Surely you jest.


Oh I'm under no illusions about DU, or Obama, and it's his own damn fault his big-business Reagan act is biting him in the ass, and all but the most ardent DU loyalists have jumped ship. It just seemed unusually fast. So fast they missed the fact that for the first time since he's been in office, Obama got off the couch and came up with something useful, even if it's only a campaign bribe. In earlier days they'd be crowing with pride, but at this point he has no credibility, and while that's his own damn fault, I'm not sure it's a good thing.

For example: what if BP's spokesmodel Palin was in a position to give that speech, which may well came to pass? It would be all about Clinton's anti-enterprise regulations tying BP into knots so they couldn't innovate, and see where that got us, and hey how about a hand for the hard-working BP heroes working 24/7 to fix a mess NOBODY could have predicted, etc etc. There wouldn't even be $20 bil to spread around, there'd be nothing. And Hayward would be sleeping in the Lincoln bedroom while Halliburton got the nuke ready.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Jeff » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:30 am

Gulf oil full of methane, adding new concerns

NEW ORLEANS – It is an overlooked danger in oil spill crisis: The crude gushing from the well contains vast amounts of natural gas that could pose a serious threat to the Gulf of Mexico's fragile ecosystem.

The oil emanating from the seafloor contains about 40 percent methane, compared with about 5 percent found in typical oil deposits, said John Kessler, a Texas A&M University oceanographer who is studying the impact of methane from the spill.

That means huge quantities of methane have entered the Gulf, scientists say, potentially suffocating marine life and creating "dead zones" where oxygen is so depleted that nothing lives.

"This is the most vigorous methane eruption in modern human history," Kessler said.

Methane is a colorless, odorless and flammable substance that is a major component in the natural gas used to heat people's homes. Petroleum engineers typically burn off excess gas attached to crude before the oil is shipped off to the refinery. That's exactly what BP has done as it has captured more than 7.5 million gallons of crude from the breached well.

A BP spokesman said the company was burning about 30 million cubic feet of natural gas daily from the source of the leak, adding up to about 450 million cubic feet since the containment effort started 15 days ago. That's enough gas to heat about 450,000 homes for four days.

But that figure does not account for gas that eluded containment efforts and wound up in the water, leaving behind huge amounts of methane.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100618/ap_ ... _oil_spill


Dallas Law Firm Cautions Spill Workers about Benzene Exposure

Jun 18, 2010

While Gulf of Mexico coast fishermen and others have lost their livelihoods due to the spill, some who have been hired to clean up the oil washing up on beaches and marshes risk toxic exposure.

"Workers helping with the cleanup will likely be exposed to benzene through crude oil,” said Allen Vaught, an attorney with Dallas law firm Baron & Budd, P.C. “Benzene exposure can cause certain cancers like leukemia and lymphoma, and children are especially susceptible. Cleanup workers need to be monitored or warned about the hazards of benzene exposure. The latency period of benzene can be anywhere from 2 to 50 years. That's a serious health impact that can last for half a century.”

...

Volunteers who helped clean up the Exxon Valdez oil spill 20 years ago are now feeling the long-term effects of exposure to oil. What some medical experts originally diagnosed as a case of the flu turned out to be more serious.

"This is very different than in the Exxon Valdez case when the crude was more centralized, which made the exposure easier to control,” Vaught said. “Instead, we're dealing with multiple plumes spread over a larger area that could take years to clean up.”



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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby ninakat » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:30 pm

Gulf News; From Bad to Worse
By Rob Kall
June 17, 2010

Sit down. Get ready. Your life has begun to change. It will never be the same again. This gulf disaster is changing everything. Call your legislators. Tell them that they are now on notice. There are the constituents and there are planet killing corporations, ready to wipe out life on the planet for a profit. Those legislators have to choose whose side they are on. No more bullshit. No more lobbyists getting favors. This is not life or death.

Here's the latest report I just received from my contact inside BP:

    Ok, here's the deal.

    Size of reservoir - estimated by BP and its partner, Andarko to be between 2.5B and 10B bbl. (that's 100,000,000,000 gallons and 400,000,000,000 gallons.
    Yes - all of those numbers are BILLIONS.

    BP has admitted in at least 3 interviews that the well casing is compromised (broken). So, when they tried the Top Kill - and then the Junk Shot - the stuff shot out the sides and didn't go much down the hole. A REAL top kill should just take a few hours - or it's not going to ever work.

    The casing was undoubtedly broken apart by the natural gas 'explosion' at the bottom of the well, which was the result of methane coming out of solution (ie. the methane hydrates melting and expanding dramatically). Much like when your washer's water line has air in it and you shut off the valve and the line 'hammers', the well 'hammered' when the BOP shut (the guess is 80%), and the dramatic upshot in pressure, as well as the acoustic shockwave, broke the casing.

    The Question of the Day is: Did the explosion rupture the casing for its entire length?

    If that is so, then a relief well will be unable to plug the hole. TEN relief wells would be unable to plug the hole.

    The consensus seems to be, among oil people I've spoken with, that this is exactly the case.

    If that's so, then the well will run until Obama nukes it. That is the only thing that could close it.

    If they can't plug it via the relief wells, and if they don't nuke it (it can't be conventional explosives, for a few reasons), then about 1/2 of the oil and gas will run out. That would be 50 BILLION to 200 BILLION gallons of oil, over a 10 year period. Although, like the interest you pay on a house note, the biggest part would be up-front.

Another report I discovered yesterday, can't remember where, is that there is so much methane coming out of the gulf gusher that it equals what New York City produces in a day. That methane is 25 to 100 times more deleterious than CO2 as a greenhouse gas aggravating global warming.

We need to start thinking about a black gulf that is dead, that oil and other toxins are leaking to other oceans. What will our world, our nation, the human race, life on this planet look like if all the seas die?

We need to start thinking really hard about re-localization, transition towns-- the kinds of things Bill McKibben, Lester R. Brown and Rob Hopkins have been writing about. Plant a vegetable garden in your back yard, in a local garden, on your balcony. Connect with a local food coop or CSA (community supported agriculture.) The world is going to change.

    We need to take a Apollo, moon landing technology approach to what is happening in the gulf. We need big ideas and solutions because there are other deep water wells out there waiting to become catastrophes. Joe Trippi said it well, responding to Obama's speech Tuesday night:

    The president could have told the American people that it is clear that we had the technology to drill a hole in the ocean floor 1 mile beneath the surface.
    Then, he should have leveled with us and said that it is just as unclear, right now, how we can put the technology in place to shut it down quickly after the tragic explosion.

    Just as we were able to bring Apollo 13 back to earth safely, we will shut this well down, the president could have assured us.

We need to take a WWII approach to low tech temporary interventions, like building 10,000 skimmers that can be rigged to existing boats. We need to figure out ways to use trawlers to drag booms that absorb oil through those massive curtains of oil, so they can be cleaned up deep in the ocean.

Obama still does not get the immensity of the problem. He needs to imagine 1.25 to 5 BILLION barrels-- 50 billion to 210 billion gallons of oil-- spewing into the gulf rounding the keys, despoiling the Caribbean, riding the Gulf Current up the eastern seaboard, jumping over to Europe....

Forget about Iraq and Afghanistan and the hundreds of other military bases we have. We need to apply all our military resources to the massive disaster we have at home.

Tell the bastards in the military industrial medical complex that there's a new way they're going to have to make money-- healing the gulf, healing the gulf workers, preventing our oil plague from killing the planet.

My source tells me that BP has underground resources of 500 billion barrels of oil-- at $70 a barrel that's $35 Trillion dollars. Other oil companies have similar holdings. We need to start talking about tapping them for a trillion dollar budget, not a piddling $20 billion escrow account. Don't get me wrong. That account was a first step.

But we need Boeing and Raytheon and General Motors and Ford and our biggest most advanced companies focused on what is happening in the gulf. We need to get ideas and suggestions cranked up even more. Humanity has incredible wisdom and creativity. We need to tap it and work it, like never before, fast and furious.

We need-- Obama needs-- to face the reality that fishing and shrimping in the Gulf and probably Florida are over for years to come. Eating ocean fish may soon be over.

Obama needs to call a meeting of world leaders to face this INTERNATIONAL crisis.

Obama needs to, and I've said it before, fire the advisers who let him get this far doing so little, addressing this in so many wrong ways. This IS like a war, but secrecy is not called for, necessary or appropriate. We are all in this together. The enemy is the oil and maybe the corporations, and for them transparency is their enemy.

Obama needs to rise a lot higher and find his higher self and become a true visionary leader. That probably means cutting the tethers held by the political hacks who he has surrounded himself with. We need a great president NOW, not some compromising, making deals with corporations manager. I believe Obama has it in him, but he must throw off the slugs and maggots and reptiles and leeches who are bringing him down. He needs to think of his wife and children and the rest of us, not corporations.

We may need to totally revamp the military. We need people likeLt.Gen. Russel L. Honoré of the Army who was appointed to oversee the Katrina recovery.

The hotter water caused by the black and red coloration will lead to more violent weather and hurricane activity. The release of billions of gallons of methane will speed global warming and exacerbate climate change.

I told a friend about this last night. He said, "so, the house my sister and her husband just bought for $1.2 million on the west coast of Florida might drop in value?"

Ouch. You betcha.

There is talk of the US government taking over BP. Since it's an international company, that may not be possible, but certainly, BP's assets in the US are takable. Surely BP has broken any agreement to operate responsibly.

And then there's that matter of criminality-- 11 dead, millions damaged. Why didn't our hapless incompetent in the justice department AG Eric Holder arrest the BP execs after they left the meeting with Obama. Maybe that would be premature, but it should be in the works.

And let's not forget all those British pensioners who are not going to be getting their dividend checks for the rest of the year. Maybe ALL investors will learn not to invest in criminal, anti life, anti-earth, ant-human corporations anymore.

It is likely that a number of the previously endangered species in the gulf will die off.

The sequellae of this disaster are just beginning to become visible on the horizon. The Christian Right has been praying for the end times. Who knew that the beast would be BP and the American addiction to oil?


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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby justdrew » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:05 pm

justdrew 01 May 2010 12:48 wrote:they need to bomb and plug the well today
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Julia W » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:07 pm

@ Ninakat
That post (didn't want to quote the whole thing) was disturbing and I'm afraid it may be accurate account.

If it has the potential to "leak" about 1/2 of the total of the reservoir thats:

Low estimate 1/2 of 2,500,000,000 barrels= 1,250,000,000 barrels
High estimate 1/2 of 10,000,000,000 barrels= 5,000,000,000 barrels

If say, the "spill" has already "leaked" ~7,000,000 barrels (if Matt Simmons estimates are correct 120,000 barrels/day x 60 days= 7,200,000), then

Low estimate 1,250,000,000 barrels/ 7,000,000 barrels = 178.6 times more than what's already spilled. Double 178.6= 356.4, if you want to use the the 60,000 barrel/day government figure.
High estimate 5,000,000,000 barrels/ 7,000,000 barrels = 714.3 times more than what's already spilled. Double 714.3 = 1428.6, if you want to use the the 60,000 barrel/day government figure.

In relation to the Exxon Valdez @ 257,000 barrels spilled:
Low estimate 1,250,000,000 barrels/ 257,000 barrels = 4863.8 times more than what Valdez spilled.
High estimate 5,000,000,000 barrels/ 257,000 barrels = 19455.2 times more than what Valdez spilled.

In relation to the Ixtoc "spill" @ ~3,500,000 barrels spilled:
Low estimate 1,250,000,000 barrels/ 3,500,000 barrels = 357.1 times more than what Ixtoc spilled.
High estimate 5,000,000,000 barrels/ 3,500,000 barrels = 1428.6 times more than what Ixtoc spilled.
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