Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

[MacCruiskeen]

you're not talking about AP there. You're talking about Pete Yost

I doubt it was "released."

For christ's sake, spare us any more of these utterly worthless "doubts" and "opinions".

It is sourced to AP. It is still attributed to AP, five weeks later. It even begins with the words, "AP source". And obviously it was released.

It's in a story written and reported by Pete Yost of the Associated Press.

My opinions and the qualifications I put on them are worth as much as anyone's, including yours. As such. So please discredit them on their merits. And, you know. Stop personally insulting my worth for no reason and stuff.

Thanks.

To state the blatantly obvious:

1. I did not insult your worth.

2. I did not disparage the worth of your doubts and opinions in this case "for no reason" (sic). I did so for good reasons. I stated those reasons clearly and succinctly and even placed them in bold type to ease your task of comprehension. They are perfectly good reasons, as anyone capable of reading can see. They are also reason enough for anyone to be angered.

So stop spreading blatant disinformation about what I did and didn't say about you and your doubts and opinions in this case.

I somehow missed the second time Mac called me worthless.

No you didn't. You can't possibly have "missed" it. You couldn't miss it because it never happened. I never called you worthless, not even once.

Oh, well. I'm tired of this shit anyway.

Well, stop doing it, finally. Alter your modus operandi. If you're tired of posting & defending blatant disinformation both about my personal statements on this board and about what the media and/or "law enforcement" demonstrably said about the case, how do you think I feel about incessantly having to read and rebut that shit? Tired. That's how.

[compared2what?]

Oh, wait.

I got your conspiracy right here. Like so:

It's due to the Ryan Lanza thing that there's FBI involvement. Cyber-harassment of that kind is their little fiefdom. Which I'm sure they'd like to see become a wave-of-the-future growth field for federal law enforcement.

Does anyone want to bet that they WEREN'T out there cointel-trolling their little hearts out at ATS and GLP?

Because I'll take that bet.

Oh, man. I am such a sucker. I was totally feeling bad for the wrong person all along.

[compared2what?]

you're not talking about AP there. You're talking about Pete Yost

I doubt it was "released."

For christ's sake, spare us any more of these utterly worthless "doubts" and "opinions".

It is sourced to AP. It is still attributed to AP, five weeks later. It even begins with the words, "AP source". And obviously it was released.

It's in a story written and reported by Pete Yost of the Associated Press.

My opinions and the qualifications I put on them are worth as much as anyone's, including yours. As such. So please discredit them on their merits. And, you know. Stop personally insulting my worth for no reason and stuff.

Thanks.

To state the blatantly obvious:

1. I did not insult your worth.

2. I did not disparage the worth of your doubts and opinions in this case "for no reason" (sic). I did so for good reasons. I stated those reasons clearly and succinctly and even placed them in bold type to ease your task of comprehension. They are perfectly good reasons, as anyone capable of reading can see. They are also reason enough for anyone to be angered.

You're adorably right about everything you think and feel.

Best way to be. Safe as houses. I'll leave you to it.

[MacCruiskeen]

^^Well, the quality of that response speaks for itself, but at least it's short for once. I am thankful for such small mercies.

[compared2what?]

^^Well, the quality of that response speaks for itself, but at least it's short for once. I am thankful for such small mercies.

Okay. But seriously. Have a care. I wasn't joking about the FBI thing. That's really happening, imo.

Peace, love and etc.

[barracuda]

He's talking about this.

That's from a Dec. 16 public relations notice posted by barracuda in the datadump thread. CT police appear to have no interest in finding out if anyone possesses additional information that might be useful to their investigation, which they appear to have no interest in actually conducting.

???

...

No. How do you figure? He would then effectively be saying:

If the police didn't have a tight and controlling grasp on the situation, they wouldn't be sending out notices advising people not to harass witnesses.

...

Sorry, but no. Can't be. I think you're wrong about that.

I think he's trying to say something along the lines of:

If police post a public notice warning against making claims that hinder the advancement of the investigation, such notice would certainly impede the possibility of third-party information being introduced to the investigation on the basis of a concern that even well-meaning citizens might become liable should their proffered information turn out to be a dead end. The existence of such a liability would create an environment around the investigation in which well-meaning persons with information would inevitably err on the side of excess caution.

But that's just a guess.

[barracuda]

The high-powered weapons that Adam Lanza used in his murderous rampage weren’t routinely locked up in his home even though his mother knew he had serious psychological problems, a close family friend told the Daily News.

Investigators are focusing on whether Lanza had a “psychotic break” before he murdered his mother, then shot to death 26 children and staffers at Sandy Hook Elementary School last month, the friend said.

Nancy Lanza had brought her son to a psychiatrist and pushed him to get out of the house as he became increasingly antisocial, according to the friend.

“He would act like a child. He would scream and shout when she brought up getting out of the house (instead of) spending hours and hours playing video games,” the friend said.

Despite the warning signs, in the months before the massacre, Nancy Lanza didn’t secure her arsenal, which included the Bushmaster XM-15 used by her son in the slaughter, along with a 10-mm. Glock handgun, a 9-mm SIG Sauer handgun and four rifles.

“They weren’t under lock and key,” said the friend, who last saw the guns months before the Dec. 14 rampage. “She kept her stuff (the guns) all together in a closet.”

Lanza’s mental health was the focus of a recent interview the Connecticut State Police conducted with the family friend as authorities investigate the Sandy Hook slaughter.

“They told me they think he had a psychotic break and were asking if Nancy mentioned anything (to me) about Adam not taking his medications,” the friend told The News.

Experts say a psychotic break occurs when a person experiences a loss of contact with reality that usually includes delusions or hallucinations.

The friend couldn’t provide the police with any new information.

“He was on some serious medications to help deal with his issues, but (Nancy) never told me what they were or if he stopped taking them,” the friend said.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... z2IoVtJMcQ

The Daily News (ugh) article comes replete with a pretty large scan of the Lanza image, the half-tone version mentioned by justdrew upthread:



If this is closer in generation to the original scan, it would help explain why it might wind up colorized or otherwise retouched for publication.

[MacCruiskeen]

a close family friend told the Daily News ... the friend ... according to the friend... the family friend ... the friend said...

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... z2IotUVY4S

The Daily News (ugh)

Well, quite.

The friend couldn’t provide the police with any new information.

What was that she just provided us with, then? Information, of a kind (shurely?) A whole heap of anonymous gossip about her dead "friend" and her dead "friend's" dead son. (Always presuming she actually exists and actually said what she's here reported to have said (anonymously)).

With friends like these...

It's all grist to the mill, of course. Every little helps.

[barracuda]

Yeah. Though I'm not sure why the Daily News article is any more or less valuable to me than an anonymous person on a discussion forum informing me that the picture of Adam Lanza isn't, in fact, a picture of Adam Lanza. But okay.

Returning to this, now that you're nicely rested...

It is very strong prima facie evidence that Adam Lanza was set up.

No it isn't. Why would you even say that?

Use you're brayn, barracuda. Think about it. I am going to sleep now, because it's late here. Have a good looooong think.

I take it from that statement that your understanding of prima facie evidence is different than my own. I'm trying to construct a scenario where that report would pass muster as such, and I can't. Wanna try?

[MacCruiskeen]

Incidentally:

If this is closer in generation to the original scan, it would help explain why it might wind up colorized or otherwise retouched for publication.

Here you confirm in passing what was already apparent: that the "horrible" image has indeed been manipulated several times -- at least since publication, if not before. Either the original is indeed b&w (seems likeliest) or the original is colour. So a person or persons unknown has since either colorized it and/ or retouched it, or else converted it from colour to monochrome for effect. As things stand, we don't know what else was done to the image before "LAW ENFORCEMENT" (sic) released it. Or since.

That's Adam Lanza's posthumous public face. That's how the world will remember him. It's the kind of image the hacks love to call "iconic", as memorable as Myra Hindley's. Handy, that.

And, five full weeks on, we still have no idea where the "horrible" image originated, when and where it was taken, where and how it was found, or who released it to the information-hungry hordes. It's just even more anonymous grist to the mill.

[barracuda]

Incidentally, you confirm in passing what was already apparent: that the "horrible" image has indeed been manipulated several times -- at least since publication, if not before. Either the original is indeed b&w (seems likeliest) or the original is colour. So a person or persons unknown has since either colorized it and/ or retouched it, or else converted it from colour to monochrome for effect. As things stand, we have no way of knowing what else has been done to the image, if anything.

I did that upthread some six pages ago, actually, when I said I felt certain the original was black and white and had been colorized for the purposes of sale via the AP site. I've colorized black and white images professionally for twenty years or so, and my professional opinion is that it was worked with a descreening/gaussian filter, had the contrast bumped up, probably re-sharpened overall, and then essentially overpainted. I mean, those are the steps I would try if presented with a job like that.

In my opinion, the half tone image I posted above preserves a bit more of a smile in the pose, but certainly not beyond recognition, and not to the extent that casual examination would bear. It's fairly ambiguous at best.

[barracuda]

That's Adam Lanza's posthumous public face. That's how the world will remember him. It's the kind of image the hacks love to call "iconic", as memorable as Myra Hindley's. Handy, that.

Yeah, it's iconic alright, with good reason. Who the hell cuts a kid's hair like that anyway? It amazed me that the family barber was among the first to publicly characterize Adam Lanza for the press, but I suspect there was about his eagerness an element of shame regarding the poor quality of his handiwork.

[MacCruiskeen]

Absolutely sincerely: Thanks for sharing your experience and professional opinion.

In my opinion, the half tone image I posted above preserves a bit more of a smile in the pose

Yes. Interesting, that. Ferry interestink... So who's been removing that trace-of-a-smile elsewhere?

Also: the image is not just blurred but decidedly overlit, and therefore sadly lacking in detail. If it were presented for use on an ID, "the authorities" might very well reject it as not fit for purpose. (Here in Germany, they almost certainly would. Because ID is supposed to identify you. And properly-lit unblurred photos that show your true eye-colour are really not hard to produce.) It could as easily be his brother, for instance:



... who really does have brown eyes.

- I'll get back to you in a moment about that AP report. But I wanted to mention all that ^^ first. Where the hell did the "horrible" photo come from? And why black-and-white anyway? FFS.

[MacCruiskeen]

Yeah, and the incompetent barber is also an amateur child psychologist, on whose every word the hacks hang, salivating. The boy didn't feel like talking to the barber? Jeez, what a weirdo! Meanwhile, the plumber says Adam was "always" in the basement. Whooooaa, creepy! So how much time was the witness-plumber spending there?

What an unconscionable load of shite it all is.

[barracuda]

I wouldn't talk with anyone who did that to my head either. I'd stay as far away from them as their front door, at least.

The halftone makes it a lot more likely that this was a picture from a yearbook than an ID. ID pictures in the US, even for high schools, are invariably produced as instant film snapshots which are cut and laminated on the spot.

If you were ambitious you could count the halftone lines in the enlargement and make a reasonable guess as to the size of the image as it was originally scanned, based upon the basic reproduction standards of 300 lpi (high quality), or 150 (lower quality, more likely), 133, etc. I'm too lazy to do that, but if I had to hazard a guesstimate, I'd say the original was a bit over an inch in height.