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Nordic » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:59 am wrote:Not sure you know many immigrants. Where do you live? I live in a city of immigrants, and there's nothing wrong with "national honor" considering they're all very happy to be in America and either are already Americans or are in the process of becoming Americans.
Some of the most "patriotic" people I know are immigrants, actually.
Freitag » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:18 pm wrote:Well there haven't been any primaries since Colorado. There's not much to talk about.
Burnt Hill » Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:58 am wrote:Freitag » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:18 pm wrote:Well there haven't been any primaries since Colorado. There's not much to talk about.
Right, and that was a primary in which not one citizen voted, and Cruz got all the delegates.
This will be the impetus in Trumps campaign moving forward.
Freitag » Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:21 pm wrote:Burnt Hill » Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:58 am wrote:Freitag » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:18 pm wrote:Well there haven't been any primaries since Colorado. There's not much to talk about.
Right, and that was a primary in which not one citizen voted, and Cruz got all the delegates.
This will be the impetus in Trumps campaign moving forward.
I agree. The more hysterical the opposition to Trump gets, the more it makes me want him to win. I think Colorado fired up his supporters. The latest poll shows Trump at record highs, while Cruz has plummeted.
» Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:49 pm wrote:Both parties should be destroyed this election cycle, but we probably won't.
I've been studying the history of American conservatism full time since 1997-almost 20 years now. I've read almost every major book on the subject. I thought I knew what I was talking about. Then along comes Donald Trump to scramble the whole goddamned script.
Now, historians must begin to consider alternate genealogies of the American right: lineages for the orange-haired monster that no one saw coming. Our received narrative of the movement encompassed by Barry Goldwater and William F. Buckley and Strom Thurmond and Milton Friedman and Ronald Reagan just doesn't cut it any longer. I've done my best to begin the work-thinking through, for instance, Trumpism's connection to fascism, a political tradition not heretofore considered all that relevant in the American context. Other bodies, however, are buried closer to home.
No history of modern conservatism I'm aware of finds much significance in the 22,000 Nazi sympathizers who rallied for Hitler at Madison Square Garden in February 1939, presided over by a giant banner of General George Washington that stretched almost all the way to the second deck, capped off by a menacing eagle insignia. Nor the now-infamous Ku Klux Klan march through the streets of Queens in 1927, when The New York Times reported "1,000 Klansmen and 100 policemen staged a free-for-all," in which according to one contemporary news report all the individuals arrested were wearing Klan attire, and that one of those arrestees was Donald Trump's own father.
In the specter of the son's likely ascension as Republican nominee, however, such events gather significance. Consider the subsequent history of Fred Trump's career as a developer of middle-class housing in the outer boroughs of New York City. We now know Fred Trump was notorious enough a racist to draw the attention of Woody Guthrie, who wrote a song about him in the 1950s: "I suppose/ Old Man Trump knows/ Just how much/ Racial Hate/ he stirred up/ In the bloodpot of human hearts/ When he drawed/ That color line/ Here at his/ Eighteen hundred family project."
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