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Postby 2012 Countdown » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:14 pm

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Undersea Explorer -- I'm Gonna Find Bin Laden's Body!
6/11/2011 12:55 AM PDT by TMZ Staff


Even in death, Osama bin Laden is the most wanted man on the planet -- at least to one undersea treasure hunter ... who's determined to find out once and for all if Osama is really dead.
Treasure-hunting explorer Bill Warren tells TMZ, the purpose of the excursion "is to try to find out if [Osama] is really dead and to provide to the world the proof that he is ... We do this because we are patriotic Americans and feel that President Obama failed to provide the proof."

Bill adds, "I do not trust my government or Obama."

The search will take place in the North Arabian Sea, where a U.S. Navy ship allegedly dumped Osama's body back in May. Bill explains, "We intend to locate/recover his body and photograph and video tape him, then do a DNA test on the ship."

Bill tells us, he's using several boats and top of the line technology to perform the search -- and the entire operation will cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Good news for conspiracy theorists -- Bill plans to take a film crew along for the ride and document the whole the trip.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/06/11/osama-bin ... ocumentary

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby thatsmystory » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:47 pm

I read former Senator Bob Graham's new novel Keys to the Kingdom.

The given reason in the novel for Saudi leadership support for Bin Laden in regard to 9/11? The King was afraid Bin Laden would stir up trouble (i.e foment a rebellion). For some reason we are to believe that Bin Laden had the upper hand. Look at the recent crackdown in Bahrain. Was that kid gloves negotiating? Yet with Bin Laden we are to believe the Saudis had no leverage and desperately made a deal to ensure he wouldn't attack inside Saudi Arabia.

Graham in a recent interview on the Leonard Lopate Show:

(Transcript from audio)

And in your novel Osama Bin Laden is plotting to destroy the world with the help of the Saudi royal family. What's in it for them?

Well why did the royal family make their network of agents in the US available to Bin Laden beginning in the year 2000. I believe it's because Bin Laden was in a position to credibly challenge the Saudi monarchy that if they did not succumb to his request he would unleash civil unrest in the country similar to what had happened in Iran and what is happening in many places in the Middle East and Northern Africa today. And the monarchy, fearful that that was going to occur gave in to his request.

Senator Bob Graham on Keys to the Kingdom


In the novel Graham explains the 9/11 cover up by stating that a US private equity firm called Peninsular was trying to conceal collusion (including kickbacks to US players) on a secret nuclear weapons program with the Saudis. Meaning the cover up was about issues unrelated to 9/11.

Again from the Leonard Lopate Show:

You also chaired the Joint Congressional Committee that investigated what led to the failure to prevent 9/11. Do you think that enough changes have been made since 2001 to help prevent another intelligence failure like that?

Many of the failures that we saw were a lack communication within the intelligence community. The FBI knew something but didn't share it with the CIA or vice versa. I think that communication is much better today than it was ten years ago.


The guy just finished talking about a Bin Laden/Saudi royal nexus! This passes for informed discussion in the US. No curiosity. Nobody calling out politicians on bullshit answers.

Worked into the novel was an explanation for the failure of Malaysian intelligence to bug the so called al Qaeda terrorist summit in January 2000. Sufaat (the owner of the condo where the meeting took place) had some sort of jamming device to prevent a standard bug. Malaysian intelligence told the CIA station but the station chief refused to give them more sophisticated equipment because it was being used in some other run of the mill operations.
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby 8bitagent » Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:40 am

LOL! Thats the ultimate limited hangout. "The Saudis state sponsored al Qaeda because they were afraid of getting on bin Laden's bad side".

Lulz.

Wasn't it the Saudis who convinced the FBI Iran was behind the 1996 Khobar US marine barracks bombing, when it was their own puppeted al Qaeda?
The meme that "bin Laden was the black sheep of the Saudis and his own family" is total bunk.

Actually, this new documentary focuses on one of the biggest secrets of the globalists:
Dubai Falconry camps are where Western business dealing Arab elites and corporate heads contracted al Qaeda and worked with bin Laden in the late 1990's and early 2000's
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GYJNVwmNRA[/youtube]

The Saudis and ISI were just some of the (visible) extension cable sockets the globalists used to puppeteer their al Qaeda windup toys, which is quite sensible to do when you need
to convince most CIA/FBI/Interpol/MI5/MI6/NSA otherwise wellmeaning chaps that there's some sort of al Kwayduhs threat. Wasnt the 7/7 trainer freed by the CIA not long ago?
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby barracuda » Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:59 am

U.S. Formally Drops Charges Against bin Laden

NEW YORK—Federal prosecutors formally dropped criminal charges Friday against Osama bin Laden following his death last month in a raid by U.S. forces.

The move officially closes a criminal case against bin Ladin, the al Qaeda leader, stemming from a 1998 indictment naming him and others in the bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa.

Bin Laden had been accused of helping plan truck bombings outside U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya that killed 224 people and injured thousands.

The charges were formally dismissed Friday through a so-called nolle prosequi filing in a Manhattan federal court by the U.S. Department of Justice as a result of his death.

Bin Laden was killed May 1 by U.S. Navy SEALs as they stormed a compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

In a court filing, Deputy Assistant Attorney General George Z. Toscas said the U.S. government confirmed Mr. bin Laden's death through DNA samples, facial recognition technology and by verifying it with one of his wives who lived in the compound.

The raid also recovered "a significant quantity" of al Qaeda material, including correspondence by Mr. bin Laden and a previously unreleased video of him, Mr. Toscas said.

Last month, a lawyer seeking to represent Khalid al-Fawwaz, a Saudi man who the U.S. claims previously acted as bin Laden's public-relations representative, said in a court filing that Mr. al-Fawwaz could be extradited within months from the U.K. to face criminal charges in the bombings.

Mr. al-Fawwaz, a Saudi exile living in London, has fought extradition to the U.S. for more than a decade.

For a four-year period in the 1990s, Mr. al-Fawwaz ran the London office of the Advice and Reformation Committee, where U.S. officials have said he acted as bin Laden's public-relations man, according to the criminal indictment against him.

In January, Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, the first former detainee of the prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to be tried in a U.S. civilian court, was sentenced to life in prison after he was convicted last year of conspiracy in the 1998 bombings.

Four others were convicted and received life sentences in a separate 2001 trial in New York stemming from the bombings.
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby dbcooper41 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:38 pm

i know this is not news to most of us but i think it bears repeating.

http://www.wral.com/news/national_world/national/story/9743418/

NEW YORK — A federal judge has approved a request by prosecutors to officially dismiss all criminal charges against Osama bin Laden.
The order was made public Friday, more than six weeks after bin Laden was killed by the U.S. military in a raid on his hideout in Pakistan. Such requests are procedural and routine in case where defendants named in indictment die.
The al-Qaida leader was indicted in June 1998 in federal court in Manhattan on
charges related to the terrorist attacks on the two U.S. embassies in Africa.
It's the only federal indictment to charge him.The charges included conspiracy to kill U.S. citizens, conspiracy to destroy
U.S. property and use of a weapon of mass destruction.
Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press.


so officially he was never indicted or charged with any crimes related to 9/11/2001.
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby Nordic » Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:08 pm

This is copied over from the other thread from 8/6/2011 about the supposed helicopter "shoot down" by the Taliban that killed 20 of the Special Forces Navy Seals who were in on the raid that "killed" OBL:

Okay, I'm gonna go out on a limb here. I recently, like in the last couple of days, saw a post somewhere, can't remember where, about a neighbor of the OBL house in Pakistan who said that one of the helicopters crashed during the supposed Kill Mission of OBL, that lots of people died.

There was a Youtube purportedly showing this. I can't find it now. Hmm, maybe in my history?

Trouble was, the Youtube interview wasn't translated into English.

This has been bothering me all day -- that these sorts of guys being KIA is usually kept very quiet, even their own families are usually told they died in some sort of accident somewhere. The fact that they're touting this as a mass casualty of Special Forces from a helicopter "crash", and now being blamed on those evil Taliban, gives me serious pause.

Also, there's the whole burial at sea thing.

Maybe there was a burial at sea. Of all these Navy Seals who died in the raid.

This is pure speculation, but I'm having a hard time believing anything the Pentagon tells me (of course).

Okay, found it!

Check this out:




And in the comments, someone has translated it:

(you have to read it from the bottom up, they are in reverse chronological order:)

/?d=2J9VU6PS  full translation here....plz thumbs up and make it top comment so all can see...go to megaupload site and add the above thing in the end....

Khakalukia 11 hours ago 3
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Khakalukia 11 hours ago
.he says around 200 people got into osamas house to check out what happened...He says WHEN THE CHOPPER EXPLODED, ITS CHUNKS FELL I. DIFFERENT DIRECTION....HE COULDNT MAKE OUT WHO THE SOLDIERS WERE...THE WERE ALL OVER THE PLACE...then another minor explosion took place and the all ran out....the polic and army came thet and they didnt let anybody inside again....

Khakalukia 11 hours ago
at 5:35 The NEWS correspondant says she doesnt believe him and asks him to tell the details...then he says THE SOLDIERS WHO GOT DOWN FROM THE CHOPPER WENT DOOR TO DOOR, KNOCKED THE DOORS AND YELLED THAT THEY WOULD SHOOT ANYONE WHO GOT OUTTA THERE HOUSES...THEY (souldiers) SPOKE IN NATIVE LANGUAGE ( The NEWS girl confirms this...she says she heard the same thing from other people as well)....later he came to know that Osama was killed.

Khakalukia 11 hours ago
WHEN THE HELICOPTER PICKED UP THOSE SOLDIERS ON THE GROUND, IT EXPLODED WITH ALL THE SOLDIERS INSIDE....EVERYONE DIED AND THE CHOPPER FELL DOWN....HE SAYS HOW COULD THEY TAKE OSAMA BACK TO AMERICA WHEN EVERYTHING WAS BURNT DOWN.....at the time of blast, he was on his terrace.....he saw the whole thing...there were no cops or army around...so he quickly went to Osamas house to get a closer look...many others also went to check it out....he was not the only one

Khakalukia 11 hours ago
the news correspondent confirmed his ID and Address with the local people and politicians to make sure its not some outside guy....the guy goes ahead and says "1 HELICOPTER CAME OVER OSAMAS HOUSE, DROPPED 10-12 SOLDIERS AND WENT AWAY....IT HOVERED OVER A NEARBY MOUNTAIN FOR 20 MINS AND CAME BACK TO OSAMAS HOUSE

Khakalukia 11 hours ago
The guy lives exactly in front of Osama's house (so called)...he saw the whole thing with his own eyes...when the Media team was near Osama's house, He comes to the NEWS correspondent and tells her "SISTER I WANNA TELL YOU SOMETHING THATS EATING ME FROM INSIDE"....but then he gets scared and calles his relatives to ask them if he should confess what he saw on that day.

Khakalukia 11 hours ago



I'm calling bullshit on today's story. It's part of the narrative, the myth.

And will be used to prolong the war. Now we really want to get back at those Taliban bastards!!!
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Postby 82_28 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:17 pm

Yeah, full on bullshit. Too perfect, too stupid, too fucking if I was going to rewrite Jacobs Ladder and make a movie of it but instead make it into a memeorific news story instead, that's what I would do. This whole shebang is so stocked with so much unbelievable bullshit it makes the prosaic explanations even more baffling. Double bind -- the bafflingness comes out of the amount of conspiracy fodder they pump into it. As far as I am concerned, they lost the plot in 2000 and 2001 with the tandem bush stolen election and of course 9/11. I locked onto the lies like a fucking laser and have never backed off in my curiosity about all things revolving around America's stolen decade that we will celebrate in a little more than a month.

People I think, listening to their topics of conversation at the bar today, are kinda over the dated cycles of propaganda (but don't know it) -- conservative dudes said at the top of their lungs today -- we need a revolution. Hence the need for a new way to do it.

Watch out.
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Postby 8bitagent » Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:44 am

82_28 wrote:Yeah, full on bullshit. Too perfect, too stupid, too fucking if I was going to rewrite Jacobs Ladder and make a movie of it but instead make it into a memeorific news story instead, that's what I would do. This whole shebang is so stocked with so much unbelievable bullshit it makes the prosaic explanations even more baffling. Double bind -- the bafflingness comes out of the amount of conspiracy fodder they pump into it. As far as I am concerned, they lost the plot in 2000 and 2001 with the tandem bush stolen election and of course 9/11. I locked onto the lies like a fucking laser and have never backed off in my curiosity about all things revolving around America's stolen decade that we will celebrate in a little more than a month.

People I think, listening to their topics of conversation at the bar today, are kinda over the dated cycles of propaganda (but don't know it) -- conservative dudes said at the top of their lungs today -- we need a revolution. Hence the need for a new way to do it.

Watch out.



As cliche as it seems...

I know *exactly* what you mean. Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?


and

You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.



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Postby semper occultus » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:01 pm

Osama bin Laden 'protected by Pakistan in return for Saudi cash'

Osama bin Laden was protected by elements of Pakistan's security apparatus in return for millions of dollars of Saudi cash, according to a controversial new account of the operation to kill the world's most wanted man.


By Rob Crilly, Islamabad
www.telegraph.co.uk
12:35PM BST 10 Aug 2011

Raelynn Hillhouse, an American security analyst, claims his whereabouts were finally revealed when a Pakistani intelligence officer came forward to claim the $25m (£15 million) bounty on the al-Qaeda leader's head.

Her version, based on evidence from sources in what she calls the "intelligence community", contradicts the official account that bin Laden was tracked down through his trusted courier.

Pakistani officials have always denied that bin Laden was sheltered or that Islamabad had any knowledge of the secret mission that killed him.

But Dr Hillhouse, who is known for her links to private military contractors that work extensively with the CIA, says Pakistan gave permission for a covert mission which would then be covered up by claiming bin Laden had been killed in a drone strike.

"The [Inter-Services Intelligence] officer came forward to claim the substantial reward and to broker US citizenship for his family," she writes on her intelligence blog, The Spy Who Billed Me.

"My sources tell me that the informant claimed that the Saudis were paying off the Pakistani military and intelligence (ISI) to essentially shelter and keep bin Laden under house arrest in Abbottabad, a city with such a high concentration of military that I'm told there's no equivalent in the US." After confirming bin Laden's presence in the military town, the US approached Pakistan's military leaders securing their co-operation in return for cash and a chance to avoid public humiliation.

The theory, if true, would explain how American black hawk helicopters were then able to fly deep into Pakistan territory in May without encountering resistance.
The plan only unravelled when one of the helicopters crash-landed, blowing the cover story.

"The co-operation was why there were no troops in Abottabad," writes Dr Hillhouse. "It had always seemed very far-fetched to me that a helicopter could crash and later be destroyed in an area with such high military concentration without the Pakistanis noticing." In the immediate aftermath of the raid, some residents of Abbottabad, where bin Laden had lived for five years, said they had received mysterious visits a night earlier warning them to stay inside with their lights off.

However, a senior Pakistani security official denied that the ISI had sheltered bin Laden.

"We don't use toilet paper – we wash," he said. "But toilet paper is all this theory is good for."

A spokesman for the US department of defense said: "We have no additional operational details, or comments on operational details, to make at this time."
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Postby Simulist » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:33 pm

8bitagent wrote:THIS is the Matrix

In some sense, I think there is a "Matrix" alright, but our current predicament is just a tawdry little subroutine running inside it, somewhere along Rube Goldberg Blvd.
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Postby 8bitagent » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:49 pm

Interesting Telegraph article.

Simulist wrote:
8bitagent wrote:THIS is the Matrix

In some sense, I think there is a "Matrix" alright, but our current predicament is just a tawdry little subroutine running inside it, somewhere along Rube Goldberg Blvd.


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Postby Belligerent Savant » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:15 am

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Was this ABSURDITY posted already? Speaking of the Matrix.

FICTION generating more FICTION.

http://www.localwireless.com/wap/news/t ... News&ith=1

Kathryn Bigelow, who made the Oscar-winning movie "The Hurt Locker" on the Iraq war, is in the preliminary stages of making a movie about the killing of Osama bin Laden and has gotten access to top White House, Pentagon and CIA officials about the raid.

That has Rep. Peter King, the Republican chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, demanding investigations by the Defense Department and CIA inspectors general into what, if any, classified information about special operations tactics, techniques and procedures were leaked to filmmakers.

On Wednesday, the White House called King's claims "ridiculous."

"When people, including you in this room, are working on articles, books, documentaries or movies that involve the president ask to speak to administration officials, we do our best to accommodate them to make sure the facts are correct," Press Secretary Jay Carney told reporters. "We do not discuss classified information, and I would hope as we face a continued threat from terrorism, the House Committee on Homeland Security would have more important topics to discuss than a movie."

Carney said the filmmakers have met with White House officials and that "the information that this White House has provided about that mission has been focused on the president's role."

"There is no difference in the information that we have given to anybody that is working on this topic from what we gave to those of you in this room who worked on it in the days and weeks after the raid itself," Carney said.

"Someone wrote out a statement for Jay Carney and he has no idea what he talking about," King told CNN in an interview.

Philip Strub, the Pentagon's director of entertainment media, said he had had one meeting with Bigelow and her team about her movie since bin Laden was killed.

That was a preliminary discussion involving Strub, the filmmakers and Michael Vickers, the undersecretary of defense for intelligence, that mostly involved the decision-making process in the Pentagon regarding the raid.

"We go to great lengths not to reveal classified information," said Strub, whose main duty is as a liaison with Hollywood.

Pentagon spokesman Col. David Lapan said Bigelow's team did have other meetings at the Defense Department that did not involve Strub, but they were ordinary script research meetings that the Pentagon provides to established filmmakers on a regular basis.

One of the issues that King, R-New York, expressed concern about is that the movie would be released in October 2012, just before President Barack Obama, who gave the order to raid bin Laden's compound, will stand for re-election.

The timing of the release three weeks before the election "puts a cloud over the whole project" and is "a breach of faith" with the military and intelligence community, King said.

In a statement issued Wednesday, filmmakers Bigelow and Mark Boal denied any political motivation in a project that began years ago.

"Our upcoming film project about the decade-long pursuit of bin Laden has been in the works for many years and integrates the collective efforts of three administrations, including those of Presidents Clinton, Bush and Obama, as well as the cooperative strategies and implementation by the Department of Defense and the CIA," the filmmakers said.

"Indeed, the dangerous work of finding the world's most wanted man was carried out by individuals in the military and intelligence communities who put their lives at risk for the greater good without regard for political affiliation. This was an American triumph, both heroic and nonpartisan, and there is no basis to suggest that our film will represent this enormous victory otherwise," the statement said.

The CIA issued a statement about its role in helping moviemakers, saying such public outreach has gone on for years.

"Our goal is an accurate portrayal of the men and women of the CIA, their vital mission and the commitment to public service that defines them," the CIA statement said. There was a CIA ceremony on June 29 in recognition of all those who assisted in the bin Laden raid, but the CIA would not say if any of the filmmakers were among the nearly 1,300 people in attendance.
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Postby norton ash » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:39 am

^^^ Not that I'd listen to a shitbag like Peter King... ahhh, they're all shitbags.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/aug/11/kathryn-bigelow-bin-laden-film

Kathryn Bigelow denies White House favouritism over Bin Laden film
Director refutes claims Obama administration granted access to details of Bin Laden raid in effort to boost re-election prospects
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Postby Elihu » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:51 am

last night i thought i saw on my local branch of the truth ministry info feed that our brave fighters killed the quote "actual insurgent that launched the rpg that brought down the helicopter killing 30 or so of our brave fighters that killed goldstein errr obl" more or less unquote. local boy was one of those unfortunate seals. incredible. how far are we from some actual public sacrifice where we can show up and take a drink of the blood? this sh!t is getting to me. sorry if i offended anyone...
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby Nordic » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:41 pm

Peter King is just reading from a script somebody handed him.

It's basically reverse psychology 101. "Oh my god, Bigelow"s movie is going to reveal the TRUTH about what happened with the OBL raid! We can't have the TRUTH be told!"

Uh sure ok ........

And another artificial American Myth is cemented into the consciousness of americans forever.
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