Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

[FourthBase]

Please. I'll be embarrassed? LOL!

People: This wasn't just fodder for the Conspiracy ARG in your heads. It was real.*
To mock and relentlessly subvert the good that happened here is a most vile cynicism.

Let's be able to see BOTH the good and the bad. And the ugly, the suspicious.
Epistemic stereoscopy. Not a narrow mono aperture. Use all your eyes.

*How real, to what extent staged, fake? We'll find out!

Hey I agree with you. My heart tells me most of the 35,000 troops/cops/etc were just trying to stop these two from killing or hurting more innocent people.
I mean no matter what, individuals ruined a number of lives on April 15th and those individuals likely were going all out with guns and explosives trying to extend the havoc.
It'd be irresponsible for authorities not to do everything in their power to protect the population.

I mean that 26 year old MIT cop. I mean he didn't need to die. There was no reason. Joker and his brother, mind controlled or not, turned into assholes.
I dont believe in reincarnation. Death is not an abstract. An 8 year old who barely begun life, who drew a sign wishing peace in this world, is now forever gone.
Dozens of people will never be able to walk again and will have agonizing phantom limb pain for the rest of their life. I get it. It's real.

Just from a bird's eye view it feels like a rubicon has been crossed.

The week of 4/19. It's just bad news.

Thank you. A sane, uncallous, uncynical, unstupid person.

IanEye, justdrew, 8bit, c2w?...are all you cynics such cowards you won't attack them?
Because they're basically on the same page as me, just not as liberated a "voice", I guess.
You could call how I am right now rude or much worse. It's just the furious TRUTH.

[Blue]

justify it to who? If my above post is correct, we really do face significant threat from non-state actors. No doubt there ARE problems with the MIC, but most of the budget bloat is due to pork barrel projects not really needed, and costs driven through the roof rather unethically, but most of that money is spent in the US at least. We'd be able to do something about it if we elected better representatives. There is a significant effort to reform military spending, it's weakened primarily by... Republicans, who apparently would rather cut VA benefits.

do you really think a non-bush administration would have invaded Iraq? Or made fools of the nation with our half assed activities in Afghanistan?

The secret cabal is not = the government, but it does have tendrils in there, sometimes more than other times.

Are you kidding me? I'm reading this on RI? Off-the-books Pentagon spending is at least as much as pork barrel projects. Didn't Rumsfeld say something about "missing trillions."

You're really making the argument that only the R's are funding the military while Obama blessed them with MORE money? http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2012/01/27/Defense-Dollars-Would-Increase-Under-Obama-Budget.aspx#page1

Though billed as a cumulative cut of $259 billion over the next five years, that reduction is based on previous budget proposals that presumed the military spending would continue to grow as fast as it has over the past decade, when spending more than doubled. Total military spending, including $115 billion for the war in Afghanistan and recently-ended conflict in Iraq, totaled $646 billion this year, up from $310 billion in 2001.

Um, Obama is still making fools of the nation with the half-assed (or more likely nefarious) activities inAfghanistan. Well, no not really fools more like propping up the Biggest Bully with all the Weapons on the block image.

[8bitagent]

Oh, and what about the fire that broke out around the same time as the Marathon bombing, at the nearby John F. Kennedy Library and Museum? Interest in that fire largely vanished as soon as we were tentatively assured that it was (perhaps/probably) unrelated. Talk about symbolism: the Boston Marathon on “Patriot’s Day”—and the repository of records related to one of America’s greatest mysteries, the death fifty years ago of a President who warned us repeatedly of the dangers of tyranny—and who sought peace with the non-hardliners in the Kremlin.

http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/04/19/the-ma ... you-about/

Please. I'll be embarrassed? LOL!

People: This wasn't just fodder for the Conspiracy ARG in your heads. It was real.*
To mock and relentlessly subvert the good that happened here is a most vile cynicism.

Let's be able to see BOTH the good and the bad. And the ugly, the suspicious.
Epistemic stereoscopy. Not a narrow mono aperture. Use all your eyes.

*How real, to what extent staged, fake? We'll find out!

Hey I agree with you. My heart tells me most of the 35,000 troops/cops/etc were just trying to stop these two from killing or hurting more innocent people.
I mean no matter what, individuals ruined a number of lives on April 15th and those individuals likely were going all out with guns and explosives trying to extend the havoc.
It'd be irresponsible for authorities not to do everything in their power to protect the population.

I mean that 26 year old MIT cop. I mean he didn't need to die. There was no reason. Joker and his brother, mind controlled or not, turned into assholes.
I dont believe in reincarnation. Death is not an abstract. An 8 year old who barely begun life, who drew a sign wishing peace in this world, is now forever gone.
Dozens of people will never be able to walk again and will have agonizing phantom limb pain for the rest of their life. I get it. It's real.

Just from a bird's eye view it feels like a rubicon has been crossed.

The week of 4/19. It's just bad news.

Thank you. A sane, uncallous, uncynical, unstupid person.

IanEye, justdrew, 8bit, c2w?...are all you cynics such cowards you won't attack them?
Because they're basically on the same page as me, just not as liberated a "voice", I guess.
You could call how I am right now rude or much worse. It's just the furious TRUTH.

All I know about Boston I glean from movies set in Boston, so it's been refreshing to get such an, uh, animated perspective first hand from a Bostonian.

Seriously tho, why is anyone rubbed the wrong way by people on here? Noones on here spouting racial, homophobic, jingoist or otherwise uncouth things.
I joked about an event happening soon that would get to a 55 page count quickly. I just forget that these events are real, this time it was in Boston where some of our RI citizens live.

[Fresno_Layshaft]

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No. Wrong. "My voice", how fucking condescending. I'm a person. I exist.

The incessant cynicism of others serves NO PURPOSE but to poison our minds.

And there is no such ploy. It's not "with us or against us", what a crock of shit. It's:
Are you grounded in some dimension of reality, or not? Or is this just a place to jerk to doom porn?
Realize that by "reality", I mean a WIDE spectrum of possibilities. But no, you want to see me one way.

YOU want to see ME in ONE WAY. You are NOT SEEING ME, though. NOT READING.
Drama queen? Again, it's entirely justified: GO FUCK YOURSELF. Yeah, what a drama queen.
This was only, you know, where I live, and all. Why am I making such a big deal? Relax. Yeah.
What could EVER possibly make ME think I'd know more about Boston events and people than YOU?

I've seen a lot of meltdowns on message boards, but I think your disgraceful, embarrassing display over the last 24 hrs takes the cake. I don't know whether your suffering from some sort of post-traumatic stress or you're on cocaine (or some other stimulate), but you need help to regain your senses and put an end to this little episode you're having. You need help. You need to get away from your computer and go talk to someone real. A friend, a neighbour, a doctor, a cop, anyone. Don't tell them to fuck off right away- give them a chance to help you.

The lack of moderation in this forum isn't helping these discuss any. It would have been helpful for a moderator to have stopped this a while ago and tried to calm people down.

[FourthBase]

Oh, and what about the fire that broke out around the same time as the Marathon bombing, at the nearby John F. Kennedy Library and Museum? Interest in that fire largely vanished as soon as we were tentatively assured that it was (perhaps/probably) unrelated. Talk about symbolism: the Boston Marathon on “Patriot’s Day”—and the repository of records related to one of America’s greatest mysteries, the death fifty years ago of a President who warned us repeatedly of the dangers of tyranny—and who sought peace with the non-hardliners in the Kremlin.

http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/04/19/the-ma ... you-about/

Please. I'll be embarrassed? LOL!

People: This wasn't just fodder for the Conspiracy ARG in your heads. It was real.*
To mock and relentlessly subvert the good that happened here is a most vile cynicism.

Let's be able to see BOTH the good and the bad. And the ugly, the suspicious.
Epistemic stereoscopy. Not a narrow mono aperture. Use all your eyes.

*How real, to what extent staged, fake? We'll find out!

Hey I agree with you. My heart tells me most of the 35,000 troops/cops/etc were just trying to stop these two from killing or hurting more innocent people.
I mean no matter what, individuals ruined a number of lives on April 15th and those individuals likely were going all out with guns and explosives trying to extend the havoc.
It'd be irresponsible for authorities not to do everything in their power to protect the population.

I mean that 26 year old MIT cop. I mean he didn't need to die. There was no reason. Joker and his brother, mind controlled or not, turned into assholes.
I dont believe in reincarnation. Death is not an abstract. An 8 year old who barely begun life, who drew a sign wishing peace in this world, is now forever gone.
Dozens of people will never be able to walk again and will have agonizing phantom limb pain for the rest of their life. I get it. It's real.

Just from a bird's eye view it feels like a rubicon has been crossed.

The week of 4/19. It's just bad news.

Thank you. A sane, uncallous, uncynical, unstupid person.

IanEye, justdrew, 8bit, c2w?...are all you cynics such cowards you won't attack them?
Because they're basically on the same page as me, just not as liberated a "voice", I guess.
You could call how I am right now rude or much worse. It's just the furious TRUTH.

All I know about Boston I glean from movies set in Boston, so it's been refreshing to get such an, uh, animated perspective first hand from a Bostonian.

Seriously tho, why is anyone rubbed the wrong way by people on here? Noones on here spouting racial, homophobic, jingoist or otherwise uncouth things.

Dude, those are not the only ways someone can be patently offensive to human decency.

I joked about an event happening soon that would get to a 55 page count quickly. I just forget that these events are real, this time it was in Boston where some of our RI citizens live.

Yeah, and that includes this citizen.
Bad news for those here who just like to come here for their doom jollies.

[Blue]

I've seen a lot of meltdowns on message boards, but I think your disgraceful, embarrassing display over the last 24 hrs takes the cake. I don't know whether your suffering from some sort of post-traumatic stress or you're on cocaine (or some other stimulate), but you need help to regain your senses and put an end to this little episode you're having. You need help. You need to get away from your computer and go talk to someone real. A friend, a neighbour, a doctor, a cop, anyone. Don't tell them to fuck off right away- give them a chance to help you.

Totally agree.

[FourthBase]

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No. Wrong. "My voice", how fucking condescending. I'm a person. I exist.

The incessant cynicism of others serves NO PURPOSE but to poison our minds.

And there is no such ploy. It's not "with us or against us", what a crock of shit. It's:
Are you grounded in some dimension of reality, or not? Or is this just a place to jerk to doom porn?
Realize that by "reality", I mean a WIDE spectrum of possibilities. But no, you want to see me one way.

YOU want to see ME in ONE WAY. You are NOT SEEING ME, though. NOT READING.
Drama queen? Again, it's entirely justified: GO FUCK YOURSELF. Yeah, what a drama queen.
This was only, you know, where I live, and all. Why am I making such a big deal? Relax. Yeah.
What could EVER possibly make ME think I'd know more about Boston events and people than YOU?

I've seen a lot of meltdowns on message boards, but I think your disgraceful, embarrassing display over the last 24 hrs takes the cake. I don't know whether your suffering from some sort of post-traumatic stress or you're on cocaine (or some other stimulate), but you need help to regain your senses and put an end to this little episode you're having. You need help. You need to get away from your computer and go talk to someone real. A friend, a neighbour, a doctor, a cop, anyone. Don't tell them to fuck off right away- give them a chance to help you.

You are a vile person. Really. Vile.

Fortunately, the people here who understand what I'm saying, what I'm writing...
They know that it's YOU who are the disgrace, the one without sense, without a conscience.

[FourthBase]

I've seen a lot of meltdowns on message boards, but I think your disgraceful, embarrassing display over the last 24 hrs takes the cake. I don't know whether your suffering from some sort of post-traumatic stress or you're on cocaine (or some other stimulate), but you need help to regain your senses and put an end to this little episode you're having. You need help. You need to get away from your computer and go talk to someone real. A friend, a neighbour, a doctor, a cop, anyone. Don't tell them to fuck off right away- give them a chance to help you.

Totally agree.

And you, too.

It's a long thread, everyone.
I've been posting since page 1.
I've anticipated every objection made.
And yet, now, people see only the fury of the last day?
Because vile people who can't wake up to this being real infuriate me?
Because some people here treat it like just a hobby for minds rotten with endless cynicism?
Read every page, start to finish. You will see why I'm furious.

[Fresno_Layshaft]

FB, look back on your posts in this thread.

How many of them are on topic and how many of them are juvenile insults and flaming, bizarre personal 'anecdotes' (for lack of a better word)? Its not a good ratio. That's not my problem. If you weren't in such a manic froth, you'd realize that you're not doing anything to discredit the stereo-types that people have about your beloved Boston (loud, obnoxious, provincial). That's the last I'll say on this matter. I guess I'll use the ignore function, but I don't like doing that. But you've made this thread impossible to read. I sincerely hope you calm down at some point and find some peace.

[FourthBase]

FB, look back on your posts in this thread.

How many of them are on topic and how many of them are juvenile insults and flaming, bizarre personal 'anecdotes' (for lack of a better word)? Its not a good ratio. That's not my problem. If you weren't in such a manic froth, you'd realize that you're not doing anything to discredit the stereo-types that people have about your beloved Boston (loud, obnoxious, provincial). That's the last I'll say on this matter. I guess I'll use the ignore function, but I don't like doing that. But you've made this thread impossible to read. I sincerely hope you calm down at some point and find some peace.

Ahhh, now we're getting somewhere. "Bizarre personal anecdotes", anecdotes in quotes. Praytell, vile one, what do you mean by that? The masturbation thing? That was a tie-in to the Pulp Fiction clip posted. The one about sucking dicks. I used the opportunity to make a separate but equally sexual point. That post was loaded with innuendo. Maybe if you were cleverer, you'd have noticed, maybe even laughed. But now, if it was not that...then what? My wistful recounting of the streets that were my soul's home, that had been defiled by terror, were now the subject of The Cable News Spectacle, which depicts real streets as if they were mere movie sets, instills that same sense of artificiality to viewers who are themselves intent on seeing the drama of the news as a movie of sorts, a deep conspiracy thriller, the "real" script improvised as they watch, according to a preconceived outline of What The Government Doesn't Want You to Think or What The Government Wants You to Feel So They Can [Whatever Twist You Prefer Aesthetically], and my street memories were in part to remind people that these goddamned things actually exist, are actually walked on? Was it the rumor I heard about shit being investigated right down the street from me? You want to know what it was I heard? Too bad. Or was it my job anecdote, which was purely to substantiate in a small way the premonition I really, actually had? Or do you not believe those things are maybe ever real? And if you don't, then why are you here? Was it the premonition? Is that why you so mindlessly insisted that I needed some kind of psychiatric help? What? You're an interesting specimen, a study in vileness. Please, elaborate.

As for the ratio, before you worse-than-useless cynical dicks started shit, the ratio was sublime.
Go ahead, count 'em up, and divide. I dare you. You will be wrong, asshole.

I don't care if I made this thread impossible to read for you or anyone like you. "Man, quit it, you're spoiling one of the few things I enjoy in life, dreaming up the nastiest scenarios about the news possible. What? You're real? Boston is real? Those legs were really ripped off? So? You're a buzzkill. I want my doom porn. Go away. You're...uh...crazy. Yeah, that. Get help, or something. [wank]" You are dogshit.

I have peace. This isn't PTSD. I'm not having a breakdown. I'm not manic.
I'm simply extremely angry at how casually you render real events into enterta...
Oh. Is that what that pinned warning is about? Let the conspiracy consumers play?
Am I spoiling the fun which this board is explicitly dedicated to? "Rigorous Intuition", no?
Or should it be rechristened "DOOM PORN!1!!!!" for your sake, so no one interrupts you?

Sorry to anyone who is actually worthy of respect who I have annoyed, fatigued.
Yeah, I can be a bit much. This time, though, only slightly. But, sorry.

New Yorkers: This board didn't exist in 2001. Imagine these cynical twits, on that day.
Anyone else who's ever had a day or week like this, IN REAL LIFE, imagine that rank cynicism.
Imagine the callousness. Yeah, the sentimental stuff can get kitschy, uncomfortable.
It can even enable bad things if it's perverted to serve nefarious goals like war.
But now, Nordic et. al. come here, and shit on the NYPD, on 9/12/01...hmmm.
How does that go over? Oh, those New Yorkers clapping, helping each other? SUCKERS!
How does that go over? How would you feel, if you were me, the last day, vs. these assholes?

[seemslikeadream]

this thread has been destroyed and should be locked

or.....

someone should do something to rectify the situation

why is this happening?

who/why is allowing this shit to go on and on?

[FourthBase]

this thread has been destroyed and should be locked

Yes, only links and cut and pastes are worthy of being posted.
Thanks, we get it.

Who was it pleading several pages back for people to stop and just sleuth?
Oh, that's right, it was me.

Anyone want to get back to that?
Without the oozing open wounds of anger at such heartless cynicism?

Yes? Sleuth?

[KeenInsight]

- Careful what I say? Oh, right, I take no care. What horseshit.
There are good people who become cops. Some of them even become good cops.
I'm not supposed to root for them to catch a mass murderer, or a phantom mass murderer?
Again: DO YOU FOLKS REALLY THINK I DON'T ALREADY KNOW AND APPRECIATE YOUR POV?
That if you rehash all the reasons for doubt and fear, I'll suddenly realize, hey, yeah, maybe?
DESPITE WRITING ABOUT THOSE SAME DOUBTS AND FEARS LONG BEFORE YOU HERE?
"Fuck the Government"? And I'm the one who should be careful? Me?
What, you don't think good people exist in the government, either?
"No, I'm sure there are, but..." NO BUTS! DIFFERENTIATE, YOU LAZY FUCKS!
An upside down flag is cool? But not a rightside up one?
THE FORMER IS JUST AS MUCH THE FLAG AS THE LATTER.
And you don't REALLY know WHAT someone is thinking as they wave a flag.
"I love this country, now kill some brown people!"
---------------OR----------------
"I love this country, now expose the Scumbag Elite who hijacked it!"
STOP BEING SO WILLFULLY STUPID AND LAZY. It's willful.
I know damn well you're smarter than this shit, so many of you.

FourthBase, did you also watch the video where the GOOD FBI whistle-blower spoke out. Remember, I said there are good people, right? Good people in the government who don't have all the power against the bad people, otherwise none of the listed things I stated would have ever happened.

I feel for the loss of the dead and injured in Boston, as equally as I feel sorry for those kids who were no doubt radicalized, and the parents that lost them. And how would any of us feel as a parent knowing that your kid became involved in a bombing? The cops had to equally put their lives on the line. They have families, they have kids. But, I will only respect a cop that is good in their heart, protects all good people, man, woman, or child, and any race, and that respects the Bill of Rights and Constitution for what it was and is.

I am a peaceful, non-violent person that weeps for all of Humanity and no government can take away my words or thoughts.

And no, no flag is good up or down in my view. I see Nationalism as a danger to all of Humanity. I was the kid who refused to stand up in class and praise a flag, not because it was cool, because it is my RIGHT. Cultural heritage is important, but not a Flag, Ever, IMO. If I displayed a Flag upside down at my home, some douchebag neighbor would probably call the cops like an idiot anyways, or I would get vandalized. And for what? Making a valid free-speech point, when the law specifically states what it stands for? So I don't see anything "cool" about it. If you like the Flag, then that is your right, and I am merely stating my opinions, thoughts, and ideas.

If you took offense at my choice of words, which may have not have been the best words to use, then I a apologize, ok?

[FourthBase]

someone should do something to rectify the situation

why is this happening?

who/why is allowing this shit to go on and on?

Has it occurred to you that maybe my rage was understandable and justified?
And that maybe other people have felt the same way?
I might be wrong about that. Hope I'm not.

[Bruce Dazzling]

Attention Fourth Base,

You have violated the board rules regarding personal attacks several times in this thread.

One more personal attack will result in the suspension of your account for a duration to be determined by mod consensus.

Attention EVERYONE,

I can't be here 24/7. None of the mods can be here all of the time and read everything. Having said that, if you see anything that you feel requires intervention, please send one or all of us mods a PM.

Let's get this thread back on topic, and keep it on topic.

Carry on.