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Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:47 pm

Ben D wrote:I suspect it is to erase the (non)evidence that Bin Laden was ever there, just like the burial at sea, no one will ever be able to prove it didn't happen.


Exactly.
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Postby Nordic » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:25 pm

Yes of course, but if that's the goal, why not just quietly bulldoze it into oblivion, when nobody's paying attention? Why the messy inefficient display? I just don't see any logic behind the method whatsoever.
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Postby Bruce Dazzling » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:43 pm

Nordic wrote:Yes of course, but if that's the goal, why not just quietly bulldoze it into oblivion, when nobody's paying attention? Why the messy inefficient display? I just don't see any logic behind the method whatsoever.


The grand, in your face gesture makes it absolutely clear that the people in charge are REALLY FUCKING IN CHARGE.

Kind of like blowing Kennedy's head off in the middle of the fucking public square, or, to a slightly lesser extent, like Panetta admitting that Iran isn't trying to make a nuclear weapon, even as we're openly planning their destruction on the pretext that they're creating a nuclear weapon.

WE

ARE

IN

CHARGE

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Postby Nordic » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:19 pm

Okay, well, I suppose they should have kept his body around, so they could all piss on it instead.

Oh wait, what body?
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Postby thatsmystory » Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:31 am

If Peter King is upset then obviously we are getting the real story. Highly classified info coming to a theater near you. What a debate we have in the US. Between an authoritarian politician who is so full of shit I don't even know where he is coming from and CIA/White House insiders who are concerned about accuracy for the sake of the public.

In a statement yesterday, CIA spokeswoman Jennifer Youngblood said: "CIA has been open that as part of our public outreach, the agency has over the years engaged with writers, documentary film-makers, movie and TV producers, and others in the entertainment industry."

Kathryn Bigelow's Bin Laden film to star Joel Edgerton


There you have it. It's all about informing the public in a responsible way.

Mark Walhberg gets accused of disrespecting the victims while CIA/White House/politicians/Hollywood are somehow doing a noble thing by colluding in an endless manipulation scheme? Right.
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Postby thurnundtaxis » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:22 pm

He's B-a-a-a-ck!

ABOUT THIS PROJECT

Osombie is an independently-produced, feature-length zombie film, packed with violence, mayhem, guns, blood and discussions about Pokemon. Oh, and zombies. Lots of zombies.

Also, the film has already been shot and edited, and we're only looking for additional funding to finish post-production sound and music, so this is not some pie-in-the-sky dream. Our trailer is actual footage and effects from the film, so you can get a good gauge of the quality.

The story follows Dusty, a yoga instructor from Colorado, who is on a desperate rescue mission to save her crazy brother Derek, a conspiracy theorist who is convinced Osama Bin Laden is still alive, despite having been buried at sea. In Afghanistan, Dusty falls in with a team of NATO Special Forces on a secret assignment. Turns out Derek is not so crazy after all, and that Osama has returned from his watery grave and is making an army of zombie terrorists. When the group crashes headlong into the growing zombie apocalypse, Dusty and the troops must find and destroy the root of the zombie insurgency before it infests the rest of the world.


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Crowd-sourced psy-ops, anyone? :rofl2
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby semper occultus » Mon May 21, 2012 10:48 am

Osama bin Laden not killed by US, claims former CIA agent

By Katrina Jones - May 16th, 2012
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Ankara: Berkan Yashar, a Turkish politician and former US intelligence agent claimed that the American did not kill the al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and in fact, he died naturally.
The politician was talking to Russia’s Channel One, Turkish News reported.

“In September of 1992 I was in Chechnya, that’s when I first met the man whose name was Bin Laden. This meeting took place in a two-story house in the city of Grozny; on the top floor was a family of Gamsakhurdia, the Georgian president, who then was kicked out of his country. We met on the bottom floor; Osama lived in the same building, “said Berkan Yashar.

CIA gave him the name Abubakar, according to Channel One. According to Berkan, after that trip Chechen nationals appeared in Osama bin Laden’s circle. Berkan Yashar emphasized that they did not participate “directly in the terror bombings.” He added, “They protected bin Laden, it was his choice because he trusted them entirely, and knew that they would never betray.”

Berkan revealed some astonishing when asked about bin Laden’s death in Pakistan on May 2 last year. He said: “Even if the entire world believed I could not possibly believe it.” “I personally know the Chechens who protected him, they are Sami, Mahmood, and Ayub, and they were with him until the very end. I remember that day very well, there were three sixes in it: 26 June 2006. These people, as well as two others from London and two Americans, all seven of them, saw him dead. He was very ill, he was skin and bones, very thin, and they washed him and buried him.”

He said “only three Chechens buried him, according to his will” in the mountains on the Pakistan-Afghan border. “There was no assault. I know the American operations from the inside: they find the grave, dig out bin Laden and tell everyone about this. They need to show how technologically the security services worked, how each step was controlled, and then present it as a great victory to show that taxpayers are not paying taxes for nothing.”

“I was the first one who announced the date of his death in November of 2008 at a conference in Washington, not naming any names, and it looks like it was when the Americans began to track my contacts,” he said.

According to him, the last security he saw was Sami, who was abducted by the CIA before bin Laden was declared killed and most likely it was Sami who disclosed to them the exact place of burial in the mountains on the Pakistan-Afghan border.
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Postby elfismiles » Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:34 am

CIA devised Osama bin Laden devil doll

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Osama bin Laden devil doll The Washington Post - Getty Images
2 hours ago

The CIA has admitted to making an Osama bin Laden doll with a face that could morph into that of a demon.

The face of the doll was painted with a heat-dissolving substance which peeled off to reveal a countenance meant to resemble that of a green-eyed demon.

How many dolls were ever made is open to debate, however, with sources varying from just three prototypes up to a few hundred. The CIA had intended to distribute the doll to children in order to turn them off bin Laden as an attempt to “win hearts and minds”.

The CIA had turned to the late veteran toy maker Donald Levine – who made the popular GI Joe figures – in order to turn the project they called ‘Devil Eyes’ into reality in 2005.

However, CIA spokesman Ryan Trapani told the Washington Post: “To our knowledge, there were only three individual action figures ever created, and these were merely to show what a final product might look like.

"After being presented with these examples, the CIA declined to pursue this idea and did not produce or distribute any of these action figures.

"Furthermore, CIA has no knowledge of these action figures being produced or distributed by others."

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Postby 8bitagent » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:16 pm

I just watched a documentary from last year that aired on HBO called "Manhunt" about the 20 year hunt to find bin Laden by the women who made up "Alec Station".

It was hard to feel bad for all the shed tears as I kept thinking

1. You cry over the deaths of 9/11 but what of the endless civilian Muslims the US has killed and the CIA continues to kill

2. You guys in this documentary brag of how smart and cunning your analyst skills were, yet you didn't see that al Qaeda and even bin Laden were just puppets
of a much larger agenda...how did you not at the very least see the rich cash flow and help of the Saudis or other gulf state elites?

Pretty good rare footage of bin Laden tho. It's hard to hate the guy in that 1997 CNN footage...except that a year later we all saw that horrible footage of the hundreds of hurt and killed Nigerians and Kenyans in the twin embassy attacks. Terrible evil act that had no real strategic value or point.
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Postby KeenInsight » Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:22 pm

Obama had Osama killed. My ass.

Just a boogeyman story kept alive for years. I bet he died of kidney failure.

Perhaps Obama would like to explain why the FBI never listed Osama, CIA paid man, as never even being listed on the FBI's site as being responsible for 9/11. He was wanted for an embassy bombing. Or perhaps Obama would like to explain why the CIA allowed visa's for terrorists into the U.S., and most of which were Saudi's, a U.S. "ally." Or how about explaining a recent Pakistan documentary about the people that supposed lived near the "compound" saying they never even saw any person resembling Osama, or perhaps why one of the neighbors said he was confused by the footage the U.S. was showing of Osama apparently watching himself on TV and said, "No, that's an Old man that doesn't live anywhere near that compound, he's a neighbor down the street."

So many damn inconsistencies.

So much bullshit the Pentagon and White House shovel out each administration. I think they are all in a raffle, each term, to see how well they can peddle their lies.
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Postby Searcher08 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:32 pm

KeenInsight » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:22 pm wrote:Obama had Osama killed. My ass.

Just a boogeyman story kept alive for years. I bet he died of kidney failure.

Perhaps Obama would like to explain why the FBI never listed Osama, CIA paid man, as never even being listed on the FBI's site as being responsible for 9/11. He was wanted for an embassy bombing. Or perhaps Obama would like to explain why the CIA allowed visa's for terrorists into the U.S., and most of which were Saudi's, a U.S. "ally." Or how about explaining a recent Pakistan documentary about the people that supposed lived near the "compound" saying they never even saw any person resembling Osama, or perhaps why one of the neighbors said he was confused by the footage the U.S. was showing of Osama apparently watching himself on TV and said, "No, that's an Old man that doesn't live anywhere near that compound, he's a neighbor down the street."

So many damn inconsistencies.

So much bullshit the Pentagon and White House shovel out each administration. I think they are all in a raffle, each term, to see how well they can peddle their lies.


I was reminded of the film 'Strategy of Tension', where it seemed to be the case that the CIA spent a great deal of time, money and people sincerely chasing... itself. :)
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Postby 8bitagent » Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:35 pm

The script is predictable. "OBAMA GOT OSAMA". And boy what a shocker, useless feeble trapped bin Laden kept in a safehouse surrounded by Pakistani ISI and Pakistani military houses.
I do believe the US got their may day man...but it's more akin to keeping a sick, hobbled rat in a cage and later bragging about shooting it. The cage being globalist stooges Pakistani ISI doing their usual
good housekeeping.

I wanted to vomit seeing all these young college kids and society at large celebrating on and offline. I spent three days posting on every social networking platform possible "What about all the innocents killed by the US to get bin Laden?" Course most these dumb fucks have no concept of the real Goldsteinish roll since young adulthood that Usama served
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Postby thatsmystory » Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:32 am

8bitagent » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:16 pm wrote:I just watched a documentary from last year that aired on HBO called "Manhunt" about the 20 year hunt to find bin Laden by the women who made up "Alec Station".

It was hard to feel bad for all the shed tears as I kept thinking

1. You cry over the deaths of 9/11 but what of the endless civilian Muslims the US has killed and the CIA continues to kill

2. You guys in this documentary brag of how smart and cunning your analyst skills were, yet you didn't see that al Qaeda and even bin Laden were just puppets
of a much larger agenda...how did you not at the very least see the rich cash flow and help of the Saudis or other gulf state elites?

Pretty good rare footage of bin Laden tho. It's hard to hate the guy in that 1997 CNN footage...except that a year later we all saw that horrible footage of the hundreds of hurt and killed Nigerians and Kenyans in the twin embassy attacks. Terrible evil act that had no real strategic value or point.


This documentary is a good example of how awful the US media's coverage of 9/11 has been. Only a member of the US media could make a documentary about Alec Station and pre-9/11 and proceed to ignore the massive disconnect with al-Hazmi and al-Midhhar. I followed all the media coverage at the time and to my knowledge nobody associated with the documentary was asked to explain how it made sense for the CIA to give the White House urgent warnings at the same time they were withholding information about the likely perpetrators.
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby 8bitagent » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:17 am

thatsmystory » Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:32 am wrote:
8bitagent » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:16 pm wrote:I just watched a documentary from last year that aired on HBO called "Manhunt" about the 20 year hunt to find bin Laden by the women who made up "Alec Station".

It was hard to feel bad for all the shed tears as I kept thinking

1. You cry over the deaths of 9/11 but what of the endless civilian Muslims the US has killed and the CIA continues to kill

2. You guys in this documentary brag of how smart and cunning your analyst skills were, yet you didn't see that al Qaeda and even bin Laden were just puppets
of a much larger agenda...how did you not at the very least see the rich cash flow and help of the Saudis or other gulf state elites?

Pretty good rare footage of bin Laden tho. It's hard to hate the guy in that 1997 CNN footage...except that a year later we all saw that horrible footage of the hundreds of hurt and killed Nigerians and Kenyans in the twin embassy attacks. Terrible evil act that had no real strategic value or point.


This documentary is a good example of how awful the US media's coverage of 9/11 has been. Only a member of the US media could make a documentary about Alec Station and pre-9/11 and proceed to ignore the massive disconnect with al-Hazmi and al-Midhhar. I followed all the media coverage at the time and to my knowledge nobody associated with the documentary was asked to explain how it made sense for the CIA to give the White House urgent warnings at the same time they were withholding information about the likely perpetrators.



Agreed. While I obviously applaud the fact there's these smart hardworking women in a man's man's man's world(alphabet agencies), that to me doesn't take away from some jarring omissions. Hell didn't the NSA have bin Laden's com-sat phone sat traced to a Yemen safe house in 1996? I mean hell, where's the mention in this documentary of Ali Mohamed, the CIA/Green Beret/al Qaeda 'triple agent' who cased out the two African embassies for the 1998 attacks and trained the WTC 1993 bombers? And if we're going to celebrate strong women in alphabet agencies, I'd rather salute women like Colleen Rowley or Sibel Edmonds or Indira Singh. In fact Colleen Rowley was Time Person of the Year 2002 for blowing the whistle on pre 9/11 intel withhelding...perhaps the first mainstream 9/11 truth event that many forgot.

But yeah, WHY THE HELL didn't Michael Moore cover the al Hazmi and al Midhar connection to the Saudis in Fahrenheit 9/11? The info was out there in 2002, and his "film" came out in 2004. Heck I still say Fox News's 2011 documentary on those two is one of the best truther documentaries out there. I also find it funny HBO Manhunt omits the fact bin Laden was busy modernizing the capital of Sudan and the other things he was doing there
sitting on the head of corporations like Gum Arabic or Iridium Sattelites and Hunting Surveys. Not that Im saying bin Laden was a good person, but there is definitely a narrative not widely known.

Im still not sure what to make of the explosive bombshell Richard Clarke claims re: al Hazmi and al Midhar.
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Postby jingofever » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:43 am

8bitagent » 23 Jun 2014 07:17 wrote:While I obviously applaud the fact there's these smart hardworking women in a man's man's man's world(alphabet agencies), that to me doesn't take away from some jarring omissions.

I attended a talk by Michael Scheuer, aka Anonymous, the CIA man in charge of hunting down bin Laden in the late 90s, and he said that he intentionally hired female analysts. He said they were better at the job than men. That is why there are so many female analysts in that documentary. Of course they still had men bossing them around.
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