The Mind controlled slaves flip out

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I was at a David Icke lecture in Seattle back in Sept '03, and there were booths set up in the lobby of the town hall where people were on display with their various psychic/new-age/conspiracy wares.

At one of these tables I picked up a book The Illuminati Formula used to create an Undetectable Total, Mind Controlled Slave and started flipping through it. Not knowing anything about Fritz at that time I looked at the lady behind the table, somewhat confused and asked, "So what is this? A 'how to' manual?"

Anyway, the lady was Patricia Springmeier and she was selling Fritz's books and video taped interviews to raise money for his legal fees. After listening to the story of how the police had framed her husband, first trying to bust him for drugs which they never found, then later charging him with bank robbery, I felt the least I could do was to buy her books.

Anyone interested in buying them from me? I noticed the one mentioned above, "The Illuminati Formula" is for sale on amazon.com for $350. The other one is called Deeper Insights into the Illuminati Formula, and if I could get what I paid for them, that would be fine. ( $140 for both. send pm)

Lillypat

Are you familiar with Beth Goobie?
Her articles, 'The Network of Stolen Consciousness Parts I and II' can be found here:

http://paranoiamagazine.com/network.html


Take Care All,
Terry

[Onesmartrat]

I was at a David Icke lecture in Seattle back in Sept '03, and there were booths set up in the lobby of the town hall where people were on display with their various psychic/new-age/conspiracy wares.

At one of these tables I picked up a book The Illuminati Formula used to create an Undetectable Total, Mind Controlled Slave and started flipping through it. Not knowing anything about Fritz at that time I looked at the lady behind the table, somewhat confused and asked, "So what is this? A 'how to' manual?"

Anyway, the lady was Patricia Springmeier and she was selling Fritz's books and video taped interviews to raise money for his legal fees. After listening to the story of how the police had framed her husband, first trying to bust him for drugs which they never found, then later charging him with bank robbery, I felt the least I could do was to buy her books.

Anyone interested in buying them from me? I noticed the one mentioned above, "The Illuminati Formula" is for sale on amazon.com for $350. The other one is called Deeper Insights into the Illuminati Formula, and if I could get what I paid for them, that would be fine. ( $140 for both. send pm)

Lillypat

Are you familiar with Beth Goobie?
Her articles, 'The Network of Stolen Consciousness Parts I and II' can be found here:

http://paranoiamagazine.com/network.html


Take Care All,
Terry

It's hard to say what happened to Springmeier regarding the supposed "bank robbery issue." Was it all just an elaborate set-up to discredit him or perhaps a pre-prorgammed alter acting out it's "special mission" ...or, even a "Rogue Monarch" going "off the farm?" I spent enough time with him and Wheeler to really end up with a very bad intention towards him. I literally almost jumped across a dinner table and attacked him physically on one occassion. He was and is manipulative and very arrogant. He got just about ALL HIS INFORMATION from "Cisco' Wheeler. She is the source of the first hand material on Monarch Mind Control in all of the books with their names on it, yet he seemd to take credit for most of it. She is the ex-programmer with the knowledge and understanding of how it all works.

He used her. I was there and I witnessed it. At the same time, he was himself obvioulsy, in my observation, operating "under the spell" of some major mind-fucking belief paradigm that were strikingly similar to the Christian BS that Wheeler herself, and many other so-called "rescued Monarch Survivors" had "adopted" through their being "saved" from their programmed torment through the Cult-based "Fundy" churches throughout this country.

At first, these "Christian rescue and reborn personas" appeared to be a good thing, at least to the uninitiated outside. I mean what a story huh? Childen who were chosen to be Cult-abused and contracted out to various covert "governmental' and in my case "foreign Intelligence" operations. Children of particular genetic DNA bloodline biographies, trauma-conditioned by arcane occult practices using sophiticated intiation techniques along with a tradition of incest and rape that also involves child sacrifice and blood atonement and is obssessed with it's own genetic "purity" that is an inherent in a particluar desert tribal culture almost as far back as time records.

(And it is this tribe has dictated to much of the world it's present day 'religions' aka "global spiritual mind control.")

And then I noticed something. They all basically had the same structural dynamic in the way their "conversion" occcurred. And I observed as well, that these people, who were programmed Multiples, who were claiming to be "free of their programming as well as their controllers" were as inprisoned as much as ever and simply living out a pre-programmed "failsafe" program that was intended by the original programmers to be triggered in the event they were to discover what had happened to them and attempt to gain freedom ....which in many cases (including my own) these people were intentionally triggered into discovering that very same thing; discovering what had happened to them and fiding out who they were in relationship to all this "Monarch NewWorld agenda."

Pretty f'in clever yeah? Hey, THESE PEOPLE RUN THE WORLD, and they have been running the world for a very long time. They are no fools and they include in thei ranks some of the brightest people on the planet ...hell, all the inbreeding and genetic engineering (by means of eugenics in reverse so to speak ...hey, who exactly do you think the Nazi'z were anyway? You would be surprised to find out I bet!) can get you a pretty damn smart rat and some pretty fine thouroughbreds in the area of intelligence and superior (clever) access to some extremely powerful knowledge that most of the unwashed masses never will have either an understanding or clue about.

Christ, Fritz Springmeier is just another pawn, used and discarded. Did Wheeler tell the "truth" in her books, even though she herself is still subject to the programming and control (I have first-hand knowlegde to this fact) ...the answer is yes and all that Christian "born again saved" babble it's wrapped in should not be taken as some ilicite attempt to deliberately manipulate others; it's programming that she finds herself immersed in and controlled by ...she is sincere in her beliefs, however her beliefs have been designed along time ago for her in a land far far away.

And that land is called Oz.


-OSR

[thurnundtaxis]

Thanks OSR!

Your insight helps me parse through some of the the fundie agendas surrounding the Springmeier controversy in particular and strange glass onion of RA/MC in general.

Hve you written anything indepth along the lines of this subject that you can point us towards? Or are there other sources which you can recommend?

[marmot]

Are you familiar with Beth Goobie?
Her articles, 'The Network of Stolen Consciousness Parts I and II' can be found here:

http://paranoiamagazine.com/network.html

Terry, I was unaware of Beth Goobie. Thanks for the link.

Goobie's book The Only-Good Heart seems to be a pretty scarce book to find; however, she's written a few other children's speculative fictions which seem to be available: Flux and Fixed.

Here's a review for Fixed posted on amazon.com from School Library Journal:

Grade 6-9–Nellie, 12, lives in an unnamed world where she studies at Detta, training in the elaborate underground institution, darting through a lethal obstacle course, and worshipping the Goddess Ivana. She is one of Detta's top students and helps carry out terrorist attacks on the Outback populace at the behest of The Goddess (and her supervisors). She struggles to keep her mysterious dreams secret from the institution's smarmy, intrusive analyst, Dr. Wescott. Detta uses shocks and other mind cleanse treatments to keep the students docile, devout, and uninformed. When her twin suddenly appears in the maze, Nellie is forced to realize just how many memories have been shocked out of her system. She is slowly able to peel away the layers of lies that are her life; her strength comes from unexpected places, and her abilities, both those nurtured and those hidden, help her bring about a resolution that ends this particular story but opens the door for a third book. This is a sequel to Goobie's Flux (Orca, 2004), though it stands alone for the first half. Some of the later-half explanations are difficult to grasp and may work better for those who have read the previous title. The first part of the book is a little lengthy; it becomes repetitious to watch Nellie do something and then erase her memory but Goobie's world building is fascinating and faultless.–Sarah Couri, New York Public Library
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

Here's an interview at Suite101: Beth Goobie: Power and Survival

OSR, thank you for your insight.

[OnoI812]

Wow...this is quite some thread.

Brittney Spears is pretty easy to explain.

Normal childhood robbed by Mickey Mouse and her Mother. check

Marketing bastards who push to achieve a certain image so much that the image overtakes the being. check

Normal flesh and blood human transformed into corporate money making machine with expectations that can never be achieved or more importantly maintained. check

Plenty of idiots and jesters to surround her and constantly keep her occupied with a plentiful supply
of bad advice. check


My personal feeling is she is not crazy or mind controlled at all. She shaved her head for the same reason she's a constant of the tabloids, everyone wants another piece of her and she's got none left to give.

“uhm, she basically just said that she was tired of having things plugged into it, and she didn’t want anybody to touch her, uhm, tired of people touching her

Translation: K-fed was threatening to have her kids taken away and wanted her hair drug tested for long term drug usage.

ridiculous? yes, But I believe this young lady would go to any length to keep the dingo's from snatching her babies.

That's why I totally believe this:

'Promises Clinic staffers found Britney's "death list" after stripping Spears when they suspected she smuggled cocaine into the facility. The list included Kevin Federline and several members of the paparazzi

This girl is desperate to turn the fame switch off, keep her life and her children. But there is no switch, just shutter flashes. This person is already living a real life "1984" scenario. I see this ending bad...for all of us, in the physical layer, But especially these famous girls.

[LilyPatToo]

Terry -- Yes! I have a couple of links to Beth Goobie's story. Like a lot of program survivors, she's an extremely creative person. I hope that someday (when the Controllers' disinfo spell is broken and people begin to believe that this stuff happened), someone will study the correlation between trauma-based mind control program survivors and creativity. All the survivors I can think of at the moment are writers, artists or musicians and some are doing work in more than one field.

(WHOA! As I was writing this post, an earthquake just rumbled through Here's a link to our local shaken'bake map -- http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/FaultMaps/122-38.htm A 4.2 is a crockery-rattler for sure!)

Onesmartrat, thank you so much for that first-hand information on Springmeier. Can't tell you how confused I've been about him

And I definitely understood what you meant by this part:

At first, these "Christian rescue and reborn personas" appeared to be a good thing, at least to the uninitiated outside. I mean what a story huh?....And then I noticed something. They all basically had the same structural dynamic in the way their "conversion" occcurred. And I observed as well, that these people, who were programmed Multiples, who were claiming to be "free of their programming as well as their controllers" were as inprisoned as much as ever and simply living out a pre-programmed "failsafe" program that was intended by the original programmers to be triggered in the event they were to discover what had happened to them and attempt to gain freedom.....

But then you said that they "...were intentionally triggered into discovering that very same thing; discovering what had happened to them and fiding out who they were in relationship to all this "Monarch NewWorld agenda." Are you saying that the Controllers wanted us to find this out?

LilyPat

[Joe Hillshoist]

Ono real dingos actually snatch babies.

Please don't bring up the Azaria Chamberlain in this context. It doesn't fit.

Even on its surface the Mickey mouse Club was a traumatic attempt at social programming. (Not on the same scale, but shit, I had to watch it whren I was young.)

It seems to reek sussness.

Although that bit about creativity ... well I guess that is one thing she doesn't have much of.


I read that beth goobie link too. It made so much sense to me. I dunno if the places she goes are real external worlds in other dimensions or imagineal creations, its probably irrelevent... But something about that rang very true to me.

What do you guys think of her weird worldview?

[Onesmartrat]

Thanks OSR!

Your insight helps me parse through some of the the fundie agendas surrounding the Springmeier controversy in particular and strange glass onion of RA/MC in general.

Hve you written anything indepth along the lines of this subject that you can point us towards? Or are there other sources which you can recommend?

lol

Some will say I have written way too much ...lol.

You can try googling me, but much of what was indexed and archived at the various watering-holes I have been ceremoniously thrown off of one by one will no doubt, in many cases, be vaporized or locked down by now.

Perhaps you might try my most infamous thread to date at unknowncountry.com message board. (The thread is called "When there are a witness" ...I know bad grammar, but I didn;t start it). The thread is still actually going; I didn't start it, but it is known as "OSR's Monster Thread" by those closest to the source. It's rather old, about teo or three years now, at least my input is...they are still apparently having a discussion tthere and the thread is quite active apparently. I believe it is the longest thread on that website. You can go back into the archives and watch me duke it out with unstable Monarch Mutliple "Mr. I know secret about you but I'm not telling" Whitney Strieber, author of "Communion", if you are into one-sided viscious mudslinging ...lol.

Anyway, I have written quite a bit, although my tone and focus has changed a bit in the last year plus since Katrina; I focus mostly on the big picture now in terms of how it all comes together on the grand scale. ...perhaps I should find a version of my "rant" on that subject and paste it in here. I dunno. I guess it depends on what area of interest you have as to where to find stuff I have written about ...


-OSR

[Onesmartrat]

Wow...this is quite some thread.

Brittney Spears is pretty easy to explain.

Normal childhood robbed by Mickey Mouse and her Mother. check

Marketing bastards who push to achieve a certain image so much that the image overtakes the being. check

Normal flesh and blood human transformed into corporate money making machine with expectations that can never be achieved or more importantly maintained. check

Plenty of idiots and jesters to surround her and constantly keep her occupied with a plentiful supply
of bad advice. check


My personal feeling is she is not crazy or mind controlled at all. She shaved her head for the same reason she's a constant of the tabloids, everyone wants another piece of her and she's got none left to give.

“uhm, she basically just said that she was tired of having things plugged into it, and she didn’t want anybody to touch her, uhm, tired of people touching her

Translation: K-fed was threatening to have her kids taken away and wanted her hair drug tested for long term drug usage.

ridiculous? yes, But I believe this young lady would go to any length to keep the dingo's from snatching her babies.

That's why I totally believe this:

'Promises Clinic staffers found Britney's "death list" after stripping Spears when they suspected she smuggled cocaine into the facility. The list included Kevin Federline and several members of the paparazzi

This girl is desperate to turn the fame switch off, keep her life and her children. But there is no switch, just shutter flashes. This person is already living a real life "1984" scenario. I see this ending bad...for all of us, in the physical layer, But especially these famous girls.

Mickey Mouse is right!


Brittney Spears is most definately a Monarch Mutliple if I ever saw one. She was made by and is totally owned by Disney Corp. Disney is a major manufacturer of Monarch Slaves. Big Time. Major Cult involvement with this girl. She is most likely a Presidential Model, as well as an international assassin and a high level sexual slave (and breeder) for their more elite and "exotic" models (Monacrh Models) to serve the elite upper eschelon power brokers and be their living "fax" machine. The bastards high up in Cult-o-rama get off on fucking notable celebs....both women and men by the way (especially baseball players for some reason ...lol), The business about not wanting "people to be touching her" is so classic and indicative of a svere sexual abuse and trauma history. She wreaks of PTSD symptoms. I imagine she is considered a trophy thouroughbred in terms of her bloodline ancestry; her lineage is full of "High-end" DNA/Mitochondrial DNA. I mean look at her. Her children are already being traumatized and programmed as we speak.

All that stuff about her driving off with a baby on the hood of the car and now this spontaneous shaved-head business (which is an externalized acting out of her attempt to "switch" perosnalities and become "someone else" to escape her life) and rehab ...it's heavy dissociative behavior folks ....she is so finely tuned and over-programmed using the really higtech shit they have now, she is literally breaking down. She may even be coming into awareness of her trauma conditioning and programming. She will be considered eventually a "programming failure" and most likely taken out of commision. Probably setting her up right now for the kill by having her go to rehab so later on when she is fopund dead of a "drug overdose" it will all be written off as just another "Hollywood tragedy."

They will take her out because she is so young and if her programming is breaking down now, then they run the risk of her becoming aware of wehqt happened to her and that might jeopardize their control and programming of her children. Her children are highly prized pups in a high end Monarch bloodline. AKC ....lol. This is partly why Princess Diana, another finely tuned Monarch ....(no pun intended) was taken out of commission because of her tremendous influence on her boys, particularily William, who will not live to inherit the thrown. Harry is much more "their boy" in terms of his personality characteristics and psych profile, William is way to much like Mom; too difficult to manage with a mind of his own and a will to match. He will be symbolically sacrificed so that his brother will ascend. He will die in an accident, most likely either airplane or auto. He may even be "accidently" decapitated as part of a ritual known as the "Killing of the King," but how they will pull that off, I do not know.

Nope, I am afraid Brittiney is sadly one of us.


-OSR

[Onesmartrat]

Terry -- Yes! I have a couple of links to Beth Goobie's story. Like a lot of program survivors, she's an extremely creative person. I hope that someday (when the Controllers' disinfo spell is broken and people begin to believe that this stuff happened), someone will study the correlation between trauma-based mind control program survivors and creativity. All the survivors I can think of at the moment are writers, artists or musicians and some are doing work in more than one field.

(WHOA! As I was writing this post, an earthquake just rumbled through Here's a link to our local shaken'bake map -- http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/FaultMaps/122-38.htm A 4.2 is a crockery-rattler for sure!)

Onesmartrat, thank you so much for that first-hand information on Springmeier. Can't tell you how confused I've been about him

And I definitely understood what you meant by this part:

At first, these "Christian rescue and reborn personas" appeared to be a good thing, at least to the uninitiated outside. I mean what a story huh?....And then I noticed something. They all basically had the same structural dynamic in the way their "conversion" occcurred. And I observed as well, that these people, who were programmed Multiples, who were claiming to be "free of their programming as well as their controllers" were as inprisoned as much as ever and simply living out a pre-programmed "failsafe" program that was intended by the original programmers to be triggered in the event they were to discover what had happened to them and attempt to gain freedom.....

But then you said that they "...were intentionally triggered into discovering that very same thing; discovering what had happened to them and fiding out who they were in relationship to all this "Monarch NewWorld agenda." Are you saying that the Controllers wanted us to find this out?

LilyPat

Yes.

Here's one example; Whitney Streiber ...and the cover of Communion. He was "designed" from early childhood onward, to be used in the manner that he was ...and still is ....to trigger many many thousands of people with that book and particularly THAT cover.

This is a good question/topic you raised LilyPat; it interests me to discuss it. However, at the moment I must leave to attend to more mundane and trivial matters.

Let's continue later on on this subject shall we?

-OSR

[LilyPatToo]

I guess I'm having trouble understanding how it would benefit the Controllers to have their puppets wake up...?

It's very obvious to me that in the case of high-level, heavily-handled slaves who are used for international purposes, they will allow minimal consciousness--mentions of intelligence agency interference, for one example--but it seems to me that to allow much more than that would NOT be in the Controllers' best interests at all.

And you and I (for just 2 examples...we're not the only ones) have both become aware of MUCH more and that would seem to be a Bad Thing from the puppeteers' point of view, wouldn't it?

Also, I didn't realize until this moment that one of the reasons I'd not considered Britney likely to be Monarch is that, well...she's not too bright! But people keep pointing out to me that the newer tech-based methods of MC may not require that at all.

LilyPat

PS When you say "Charles" above, I think you mean William, Princess Di's eldest son.

[marykmusic]

She shaved her head, then put some sort of bar code tattoo on the back of her neck... anyone here a fan of the TV show Dark Angel?

The music business, including Nashville, is set up to make the most money off of short-lived acts. The ones who stick around longer, they eventually gain artistic control as their original contracts run out, and that doesn't make much money for the big guys. UNLESS of course the star dies...

I've just gotten Alex Constantine's The Covert War Against Rock which I expect to say much about this.

I was a washout MK-Ultra kid, class of '54. The self-destruct program worked pretty well, though, for a long time. --MaryK

[Onesmartrat]

I guess I'm having trouble understanding how it would benefit the Controllers to have their puppets wake up...?

It's very obvious to me that in the case of high-level, heavily-handled slaves who are used for international purposes, they will allow minimal consciousness--mentions of intelligence agency interference, for one example--but it seems to me that to allow much more than that would NOT be in the Controllers' best interests at all.

And you and I (for just 2 examples...we're not the only ones) have both become aware of MUCH more and that would seem to be a Bad Thing from the puppeteers' point of view, wouldn't it?

Also, I didn't realize until this moment that one of the reasons I'd not considered Britney likely to be Monarch is that, well...she's not too bright! But people keep pointing out to me that the newer tech-based methods of MC may not require that at all.

LilyPat

PS When you say "Charles" above, I think you mean William, Princess Di's eldest son.

Yeah, sorry, meant William.

Charles is a robot as well.

And no, Britney is very bright ....you have a person who got a dumb-front alter/ host .....I know quite a few Monarchs with this programming; I even worked with one. All Monarchs have this rto some degree. but with the really valuable and really bright ones, you will have this big time. Also, dissociative behavior iis ofetn misunderstood by the unaware. Look at Bush Jr. although he is also unstable and not quite the brightest Monarch bulb in the box, he automatically age regresses back inot a child alter state when he is under stree ...and it does not take that much to trigger it. Look at the Michael Moore film where they show Bush in that classroom just sitting there after being told about the twin towers ...watch the expression on his face completely shift from an adult into an aged regressed child alter ....he looks like he is about the same age as the kids he is reading to....maybe a liitle older ...no more than ten I would say. that's part of the complex world of trauma conditoned response and PTSD ....most people don't recognize age regression, but people do it all the time. Britney is still very young and she certainly has a lot of age-regression going on and with internal state age regression, especially with a programmed person, you'll get plenty of child like behavior and thinking that will most certainly be misinterpetted as "being dumb" especially with women in our culture (men get off much easier in this culture). As I said, she is a Monarch whose programming is breaking down, so her behavior is even more erratic. If they cannot get her under some kind of control, most likely they will kill her, but first they willl try drugs as in the "legal prescription kind" to keep her locked in 'maintenance' kind of state. They will tell her she has bipolar disorder or manic depression some such bullshit and then they'll drug her inot submission. It won't work, but they'll try it. Just watch.

Once again, look at Streiber if you want an example of a pre-programmed 'awakening" of conscious awarenss to his "secret life' ...there is an agenda there; think about it ....and I will return to discuss that some more.

And please note: I did not say ALL Monarchs are triggered to some kind of "awarenesss" I said SOME.

-OSR

[sunny]

LilyPat:

hope that someday (when the Controllers' disinfo spell is broken and people begin to believe that this stuff happened), someone will study the correlation between trauma-based mind control program survivors and creativity. All the survivors I can think of at the moment are writers, artists or musicians and some are doing work in more than one field.

Heard this on Court TV yesterday, from a friend of Anna Nicole Smith:

"Anna loved to paint and she was good at it."

I would love to get a look at her work.

[Hammer of Los]

It's interesting you mention Whitley Streiber. I recall reading something he wrote on his website a while ago that really screamed out at me that he had been the subject of ongoing trauma-based mind control programming - and I dont think extra-terrestrials were involved. The peculiar thing was he was recalling events in some detail that, to anyone with any prior knowledge regarding RA/MC programs, would be a dead giveaway, and then coming to a series of really bizarre self-deluding conclusions about the nature and implications of these memories.

There have been threads on Streiber before on RI.

Just as an aside I read Communion about twenty years ago (when I was about twenty years old), and I have never been so terrified by a book before or since. It literally gave me nightmares.