Hollywood Scripting

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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby JackRiddler » Sat May 12, 2012 10:49 pm

Another relevant thread.

We may never know again what dreams were like to our ancestors in their closer-to-natural state. If that's the right way of even thinking of it. We may never know again what anyone was like before the advent of industrially mass-reproduced ubiquitous moving images...

Hollywood Gender Genre Bender Thing
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... =8&t=31360

No less than three posters on the subway today told me that rugged men of earned authority and honest heroism remain in a deep crisis of identity and purpose.

Always:

Kubrick
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... =33&t=8575

Tim Kreider wrote:
The real pornography in this film is in its lingering depiction of the shameless, naked wealth of millennial Manhattan, and of its obscene effect on society and the human soul. National reviewers' myopic focus on sex, and the shallow psychologies of the film's central couple, the Harfords, at the expense of every other element of the film-the trappings of stupendous wealth, its references to fin-de-siecle Europe and other imperial periods, its Christmastime setting, even the sum Dr. Harford spends on a single night out-says more about the blindness of the elites to their own surroundings than it does about Kubrick's inadequacies as a pornographer. For those with their eyes open, there are plenty of money shots.

There is a moment in Eyes Wide Shut, as Bill Harford is lying to his wife over a cellphone from a prostitute's apartment, when we see a textbook in the foreground titled Introducing Sociology. The book's title is a dry caption to the action onscreen (like the slogan PEACE IS OUR PROFESSION looming over the battle at Burpelson Air Force Base in Dr. Strangelove), telling us that prostitution is the basic, defining transaction of our society. It is also, more importantly, a key to understanding the film, suggesting that we ought to interpret it sociologically--not as most reviewers insisted on doing, psychologically.

From http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/amk/doc/0096.html



"Which would be worse, to live as a monster, or to die as a good man?"

MK Themes In Shutter Island?
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... =8&t=27160

Nordic wrote:Remember his cameo in Taxi Driver? Why did he choose to play that particular violence-prone individual?


AhabsOtherLeg wrote:He's not really violence-prone, though, is he? In reality, he's prone to hiring taxis so that he can sit in the back and spout off his violent fantasies to the driver, in hopes of making an impression on somebody, so he can feel like less of an ineffectual cuckold. If he even is a cuckold. The whole thing might be bullshit, the whole story.


What the aliens are watching on Earth TV...
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... =8&t=24445
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat May 12, 2012 11:15 pm

Castle Bravo at Rongelap Atoll - US nuke tests
'Castle' - a tv show
'Rango' - a movie.

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The Pentagon's 1954 Castle Bravo nuke test poisoned an occupied Pacific atoll called Rongelap.
Belatedly, decades later, the occupants were relocated so 'decontamination' could be attempted, the removal of tons of fallout-contaminated dirt.

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October of 2011 was the deadline for US economic help in relocating natives back to the 'cleaned-up' island.
Lots of radioactive dirt and sand was removed in an effort to get rid of the fallout so residents could return.

http://talesfromthenuclearage.wordpress.com/2011/11/
In 2010 two U.S. Senators and two Representatives from the Congress (Senators Allan Stayman, Isaac Edwards, and Reps. Bryan Modeste and Bonnie Bruce of the Energy and Natural Resources Committee) visited Rongelap concerned about the lack of resettlement. Earlier agreements had set the completion of resettlement at October 1, 2011...


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So a decoy show called 'Castle' was marketed before this deadline starting in 2009 to embed it memetically in US pop culture. A period piece easily evoking the first half of the twentieth century.
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In the spring of 2011, with the population relocation deadline approaching, and the natives holding their annual mourning of The Bomb that Ruined Their Lives on March 1....
an animated film called-
'Rango,' a near homonym of Rongelap, was marketed.
released March 4, 2011-
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The citizens of Dirt celebrate the return of the water and recognize Rango as their hero.


And the Feb 28-March 6 2011 issue of TV Guide did a cover story featuring tv show 'Castle' that applauded the wunneful wunneful show...a...'bravo.'

All this scripting and production and marketing and timing to try and hide the horrible health consequences of
any population exposed to Cold War nuclear testing, including civilians all across the continental US.

But then an ironic coincidence erupted right in the middle of this psyop script marketing campaign intended to hide old radiation scandals and made it futile, a nuclear horror began....Fukushima. On March 11, 2011.
And the psyops trying to diffuse that nightmare is worth a whole book by itself.

Consider the amount of planning and human resources that went into the tv series and the animated movie.
How many involved do you think actually knew why the scripts were being produced? Not many.
But hundreds did their jobs and reaped their paychecks. Unwitting.

But for a few.

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For Hollywood insiders and film buffs, 'Rango's' focus on a water tower mirrors a 1948 atomic decoy movie starring John Wayne, 'Three Godfathers,' where three outlaws in the desert west protect a found baby and the tower used in bomb tests and the Hiroshima bomb name "Little Boy" turn into a water tower and a pseudo-Christian 'Three Wise Men' save Baby Jesus allegory, heavy-handed moral framing of the Warrior Guardian Male to counter nuclear shock in the masses. Directed by John OWI-CIA Ford, of course.

Harry Carey Jr. is cast for his name as the Japanese-themed subliminal.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby peartreed » Sun May 13, 2012 12:53 am

barracuda:

Thanks for the useful link to the August/September 2010 thread. It almost mirrors this misguided and maddening attempt at similar exposure, but it was also quite
informative through its perspectives and further links to psyops.

You and lupercal were both helpful with your signposts to the studio libraries and historical records on censorship with examples.

Searcher08:

Your contribution commenting on the techniques of (Ericson) trance induction, etc. were intriguing for further exploration , as well as the story about the TV “vetting department” operation. I’m going to look into both for any similarities to such here.

Regarding “The Lone Gunmen” tower attack episode previewing elements of 9/11, the cast and crew members I subsequently spoke to mostly viewed it as an unfortunate but a sadly synchronistic coincidence by the story creators, not involving any conspiracy or foreknowledge. Much like the book about “Titan” preceding the Titanic disaster with several uncanny parallels, it was seen as strange serendipity or simply an outcome of extrapolating current research on conspiracy theory cases into possible terrorist plot lines for the CT protagonists to solve.

Or maybe our Collective Unconscious is occasionally clairvoyant – like a subconscious Seer Muse.

No one I spoke to speculated a leak of insider information.

But that doesn’t rule it out either.

JackRiddler:

Your point about media consolidation into a limited number of conglomerates possibly facilitating covert interference is valid too. Only fierce competition for market share/audience/advertising amongst them curtails even more collusion.

HMW: I worked with G.Gordon Liddy on an episode of “MacGyver” where he was typecast as a villain. Imagine that! My impression of him was that he was a jerk.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Stephen Morgan » Sun May 13, 2012 3:06 am

peartreed wrote:What I have never witnessed in any of the dozens of production sets I’ve been on is a writer, editor or director sitting down with a script, a red marker and a pile of reference books on Keyword Hijacking, Hypnotic Homonyms, Mnemonics Made Easy, Neuro-linguistic Programming or Inserting CIA Citations for Dummies.


I've never seen a dentist sit down with a drill and a "Dentistry for Dummies" book, either. Obviously the idea that dentistry schools try to affect peoples teeth is a paranoid delusion.

As for the rest, look at what's come out in other fields. How did the CIA control psychiatry and print media? By buying people in key positions and by buying people when they were young and then putting them in key positions with the help of their friends on Wall Street.
Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that all was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, and make it possible. -- Lawrence of Arabia
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby JackRiddler » Sun May 13, 2012 9:31 am

Stephen Morgan wrote:As for the rest, look at what's come out in other fields. How did the CIA control psychiatry and print media? By buying people in key positions and by buying people when they were young and then putting them in key positions with the help of their friends on Wall Street.


Well no shit.

It's also true that the manipulation of words is the heart and soul of propaganda. You commandeer big ones like freedom, you use labels and framing strategies to make the good guys and bad guys represent what you want, you turn words into triggers for emotions and automatic thought stopping associations. Instead of discussing this interesting and broad subject, on this board it gets reduced to HMW's endlessly contrived KWH examples. Very few of which have any prima facie plausibility in the mechanics (which is of no concern to him). Almost none of which would actually work to do what he claims they do. (An actor whose name he thinks is a homonym for a whistleblower whom the news media suppressed, neither of which is known to 99 percent of the supposed target population, was cast specifically to k-w-h, etc. etc.)
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby JackRiddler » Sun May 13, 2012 10:06 am

beeblebrox wrote:
JackRiddler wrote:
beeblebrox wrote:^^
The thing we as humans need to figure out is, who were the assholes that first sprayed us with water? Also, whoever they were, they are most likely gone now, so it's time for us to stop beating the shit out of eachother.


Is this really a mystery? History and trauma, fear and tradition. Our own ancestors, all the way down to our parents and peers. The bandits, the conquerors and warriors. Mass rapists with horses and swords. Genghis Khan, who is now thought to be an ancestor, through countless bloodlines, to the majority of the world population. If I'm not mistaken. The founders and priests of the organized world religions, which are the most obvious examples of behaviors we follow and don't question because we learn them as children. Handed down through many generations long after the supposed motivating events, the burning bushes and Roman oppressions and prophets' visions, ceased to be relevant, or even remembered, if they ever were. Predators and experimenters and innovators and protectors, rebels and fools, mothers and fathers through billions of acts all had roles in overdetermined convergence. Yet this is not the whole story. Over and over, our kind of monkey has found ways to climb the ladder after all, to re-script the story, to end the beatings and get to the banana. Sometimes it was even the bad guys who were reproducing the system who also facilitated this. Do you doubt this? Would we even be having this conversation?

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Yeah, I knew I was going to regret making this statement the moment I posted it. I meant to imply that there was possibly some outside influence that was responsible for starting the cycle of violence and abusive behavior that we as a species have not yet overcome, IMO. This is not necessary, though, as you pointed out. Humans are capable of this sort of behavior all on their own, without any outside influence. It's all part of the evolutionary process I guess, but I wouldn't say we've found a way to climb the ladder just yet. Once we have evolved to the point that we can coexist without trying to destroy each other, while maintaining this planets ability to support life, then I believe we will have succeeded as a species. Until then, we're no different than those monkeys in the experiment, we're just a lot more dangerous.


In the experiment, the researcher can be read as a god/demon, a dragon, a flood, alien engineer, all that. I suppose I shouldn't be averse to the concept beyond that I can't see these and they're not necessary to explain the visible.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby DrVolin » Sun May 13, 2012 2:23 pm

peartreed wrote:What we’re missing is evidence illustrating the way in which the (“covert”) corruption is actually inserted into specific scripts. The “who, what, where and how” it’s done. If it is so pervasive it must also be perceived in its process.


I've said this before, and some day I hope to have time to do it myself, but a logical place to start looking for this kind of evidence would be the Golan Globus productions of the 1980s and early 1990s. They are very obviously political propaganda in pursuit of a particular set of policy objectives. What can be learned in those more overt and obvious cases can then be applied to the analysis of more subtle control. But as I've said earlier, and as Jack has quoted above, I think the bulk of this can be explained by structural factors. Still, that doesn't mean a bit of engineering at the right point can't make a big difference.

The other usually unexplored dimension of this is scheduling and programing. It is probably much easier to centrally control in detail what is shown to whom and when, than what is made in the first place. The most obvious example is the ubiquitous, almost invasive presence of Rambo III on USA Channel and other venues in the year before 9/11, followed by its complete absence from the airwaves since.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby peartreed » Sun May 13, 2012 3:05 pm

Good stuff, DrVolin. Those avenues should be pursued too. I agree that they could uncover some underground gems.

Stephen Morgan’s sarcastic example of the “dentistry” school posits CIA planting of trained agents within the media and film production hierarchies to secretly wreak havoc upon the similarly-tampered scripts, to their master’s ingrained voice.

JackRiddler elaborates on standard spy subterfuge using buried moles.

It all must work amazingly well since I apparently share an industry affliction of mole myopia. I don’t doubt it happens, I just don’t see it in operation as such.

Rather, I agree with JackRiddler’s illustration of captured “keywords” like “freedom” and “liberty” and “democracy” being corrupted so often and compromised in meaning to become synonymous with propaganda-preconditioned import, like stars and stripes scorching of evil foreigners to cure the world of communism slavery.

I also object to HMW’s hysterical histrionics about KWH which stretch and strain word association manipulation into a meaningless, incredible farce. The technique happens, but not to the extreme extent Hugh’s hubris has it haunting humanity.

Returning briefly to “The lone Gunmen”, that also portrays the trio of conspiracy theorists as stereotypical nerds with comic, farcical fanaticism and follies in their pursuit of the “psyclops” of the underworld. This characterization similarly contributes to marginalizing in the manipulation of meaning to an intel agenda.

All of us have been subjected to the kind of conditioning at issue, and that manifests in our working lives as well as our less-than-private lives and entertainment. The methodology of that manipulation is as vast and varied as our infected ideas on it.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Simulist » Sun May 13, 2012 3:14 pm

peartreed wrote:It all must work amazingly well since I apparently share an industry affliction of mole myopia. I don’t doubt it happens, I just don’t see it in operation as such.

That's an interesting point, Peartreed. I'm actually thinking of journalism here. We know that there is significant manipulation of journalism by our intelligence apparatus, but I'd imagine that work-a-day journalists don't perceive it much, if at all.

Could it be that the culture is so pervaded by it — and by this I mean "our culture," not just the culture of film or television or journalism — that we tend to overlook it, even when we're encountering it?

Not sure. Just sort of "thinking out loud." (Or not... ;) )
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby DrVolin » Sun May 13, 2012 3:46 pm

Some sectors of academia are quite intensively colonized by moles and/or willingly manipulated, and there isn't much myopia about it. But neither is there much discussion of it outside conference hotel bars.
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Who carry the cross of homicide
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Marie Laveau » Sun May 13, 2012 9:14 pm

JackRiddler wrote:
Marie Laveau wrote:And then there's Laurel Canyon. If you haven't read Dave McGowan's series, I would suggest it. The idea that Hollywood and government haven't been entertwined since the beginning...that seems farcical to me. But what do I know?


They have been. I forgot about the propaganda board during World War I, when the direction of Hollywood as privatized propaganda ministry was first struck, just as features came into their own and superceded single-reel pieces. Wars always push these things. "Birth of a Nation" and "Sgt. York," progressive racism and liberal militarism, hand in hand. But "then there's Laurel Canyon" is exactly the problem in this thread. I have read that series, and almost everything he's produced on his site, and as with much of his work I was amused before I was finally exasperated and gave it up due to the compulsive fitting of every detail to predetermined master narrative, with the occasional gap left to sinister insinuation. He's talented. It's a kind of jazz music, but then he repeats the same chord forever in the face of every datum that comes his way. Facts accumulate but I'm not sure he validates any theses or leaves us knowing more than we did about how the system works, only about how he assumes it must work derived entirely from surface observation. Just like Hugh and his reverse-engineering, from poster back to Langley's KWH factory. It could use some substantiation, even one damn case of the mechanics documented from A to Z to put some muscle on the boundless theory.


I guess we'll have to see if McGowan goes out (on his series) with a bang or a whimper. I know several people who have said, "Well, duh, EVERYONE was in the military in WWII; hence, it wouldn't be hard to pin the fact that many of the 60s bands' fathers were former military."

Except: it seems that they weren't just military, i.e. your average grunt, they were in intelligence or, in the case of Jim Morrison, the very man who commanded the phony Gulf of Tonkin incident, or other fairly important positions. Seems quite coincidental...what are the chances?

Again, we'll have to see if McGowan takes his series out with a bang or a whimper. I do know that there was a long gap in his series because, supposedly, he was being investigated by the I-R-S. If true, there's no better way to see if someone of McGowan's calibre is stepping on toes than having their lives ripped apart by an "investigation." Musta passed it, as he's still typing.

I often wonder if Morrison didn't hate his life because it wasn't one he chose, but was chosen for him?
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Simulist » Sun May 13, 2012 9:16 pm

Wow. Didn't know that about Morrison, Marie. Thank you.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Marie Laveau » Sun May 13, 2012 9:28 pm

simulist - if you haven't read McGowan's series, you should. Even if it turns out to end with a thud, it's been an interesting ride, with tons and tons of information and weird doings. And such a small group all cloistered up the same winding road....

Morrison was before my time, so I never really knew anything at all about him, and McGowan doesn't go into massive detail, although he does explain enough that my interest became piqued in the "Morrison Myth," i.e., that Morrison had faked his own death to get out of an industry he hated so much.

True? Of course, there is no way to prove anything conclusively. I, myself, tend to think if he could have gotten away with it, he would have.

I'll tell you someone else who is weird as eff- from a government woo-woo perspective: Frank Zappa. I honestly never understood the fascination with him or Neil Young or David Crosby, none of whom can sing worth a shit. After reading McGowan's series, I understand it even less.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sun May 13, 2012 10:48 pm

:offair:

Not a single comment on my showing the decoys of the Castle Bravo nuke disaster relocation news cycle. On a weekend?
...hmmm. I don't really believe anybody, except maybe WR, has even looked up semantic and memory science backing up marketing of interference theory decoys.

I don't see any logic presented in the dismissals by JackRiiddler and now the persistent purveyor of personal professional status, peartreed.
Psyops is pre-emptive and pro-active. And designed with a consistent mnemonic architecture.
It is done for 'hostile information' (Army term) you have never heard of and probably never will. Plus the stuff you have.

**That's why I can find things I've never heard of before by reverse--engineering the decoy media.**
There it is. It exists. And no dismissal by Jackriddler or peartreed can make all that psyops just not be cuz they don't get it.

it is useful on children and low-information people who know very little, less so on RI usernames staring directly at things.
Interference theory, inoculation theory, pre-biasing, subliminal priming, masked priming, reinforcing stereotypes + role models + cover storiies...etc.

Tonight on NPR's (domestic Voice of America) bogus 'On the Media' show, they are going to play that Elizabeth Warren decoy story about the AP reporter fired for reporting the end of WWII, Ed KENNEDY that I showed JoeH who wanted to see a prediction come true..
That's psyops using words and themes.

Are Jackriddler and peartreed going to pipe in to chastise me for stretching word associations here?
C'mon. Castle Bravo dirt removal for return Rongelap, 'Castle' and 'Rango' in the town of "Dirt.'

Remember my citing the use of famous bass player's names as decoys of the real meaning of al-Queda, "the Base?"
See the news today? I'd love to see an autopsy report....happens lots more than anyone will ever know....
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Jeff » Sun May 13, 2012 11:21 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote::offair:

Not a single comment on my showing the decoys of the Castle Bravo nuke disaster relocation news cycle. On a weekend?


Because it's disruption, as you should well know.

More of it, and you'll be taking some personal days.
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