The loss of cliché comprehension in modern text

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Postby Allegro » Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:23 pm

Luther Blissett wrote:I’m not sure I understand those. Did you post the rowing graphic because of the misuse of the interrobang?
No, Luther, I didn’t, this time around. I was reminded by JR’s post, here.
JackRiddler wrote:Just heard a priceless one.

A fellow wanted to tell me something was water under the bridge.

He said, "It's okay. It's over the dam."

!
In my experience, that mix of ideas, like, “It’s over the dam,” is frequently spoken by teens and sometimes young professionals. “It’s too hard” I think has become a meme, that is, unspoken. I can usually imagine what they’re not saying by the looks on their faces, though, sometimes, it’s an honest look.


^ begin mark 3.55; the nurse trainee :lol: makes a point while she’s describing her driver’s test - from Will & Grace, the sitcom bloopers. (Not too recently, I was bored with reading, and since I don’t do teevee, I watched online stuff that gave me a laugh!)



The other image, This is winning, should’ve been posted in another thread, beneath JR’s image, below.

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Re: The loss of cliché comprehension in modern text

Postby Luther Blissett » Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:54 am

I just read "I am lactose and tolerance, I can't have any dairy products."
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Postby a11235813 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:33 am

"Bite the bucket"

Came across this in an Infoworld article, no less.
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Postby 82_28 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:03 pm

"Seattle is not stilling your team. The old owners want to sale and Seattle is going to buy them for a lot of money. So please stop crying."

"Come on Seattle! Do you really want to sell your sole the the Devil?"
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Re: The loss of cliché comprehension in modern text

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:14 pm

"It's a tough road to hoe."

This was actually NBC suck-job "journalist" Chuck Todd.

Hm, maybe he meant ho? That would make more sense, wouldn't it? He was talking about politicians, after all, and he'd know all about it.
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Re: The loss of cliché comprehension in modern text

Postby semper occultus » Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:25 pm

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Re: The loss of cliché comprehension in modern text

Postby Sounder » Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:59 pm

Grammar and spelling pedants: this is why you're wrong
Martha Gill's "Irrational Animals" column.
By Martha Gill Published 18 December 2012 13:39

I don’t mind other people’s bad grammar. I don’t care when people get “less” and “fewer” the wrong way round or say “James and myself” instead of “James and I”. I don’t mind it when people use “it’s” instead of “its” or use phrases such as “going forward” and “let’s action that” and “innit, though”. In fact I find it quite comforting. It feels like job security.
But I appear to be pretty much alone. Other people’s bad grammar, coupled with their “sloppy language” and “management speak”, might be the most common pet hate in the world – or at least the most high-profile.

Emma Thompson is driven “insane” by bad grammar, David Mitchell gets red in the face over companies saying they have a “passion” for their products or services, when in their heart of hearts they probably don’t (at least, not a passion), and Stephen Fry once publicly ridiculed the acronym “CCTV” for being “a bland, clumsy, rhythmically null and phonically forgettable word, if you can call it a word”. (A bit unfair, Stephen – just listen to the words you use, such as “null”. That also sounds quite null.)

Comedians particularly enjoy being oversensitive to grammar and bad phrasing. It’s just such an easy source of material. Pick a common but counter-logical phrase, slowly repeat it several times, getting increasingly confused, then appeal to the audience: “What does that actually mean? What does that literally mean? I literally have no idea what that means.” Oh, come on, just put the phrase in context and have a bit of a think. You can probably work out what it means.

Now there’s nothing wrong with trying to be clear, but what is annoying about people advertising their hatred of small grammatical errors is that it’s a fairly transparent status thing. Where once the aristocracy used to make a point of getting twitchy when others poured the milk in before the tea or had supper at 6 rather than 8, the intelligentsia now mark themselves out by being, by nature, “unable to stand” certain phrases. Why? Well, they are simply anxious, they go on to explain, that language be preserved. Grammar in particular needs to be protected rigorously. Without patrolling, it could slip into disuse - and how would we understand each other without it?

But grammar is as naturally robust as DNA and it's actually the kids who are preserving it. The obvious example to reach for here is the development of Creole languages. People flung together with no shared language, such as groups of slaves from different places, develop what are known as pidgin languages to communicate with each other. These are not languages in the true sense – just a chaotic collection of words, often used inconsistently, with very little grammar. However, children born into these communities are not content merely to imitate the adults. Instead, they spontaneously impose a grammatical structure on to the words they’ve learned, creating a new language, a Creole, in one generation.

Language is fine – it’s thriving. It’s fairly hardy. Comedians and writers should just cross it off their list of worries and stop banging on about it. It’s one of my biggest pet hates.
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Postby DrEvil » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:05 pm

Said by a reality-show contestant: "I may not be the sharpest person in the drawer."
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Re: The loss of cliché comprehension in modern text

Postby vince » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:45 pm

Luther Blissett wrote:I just read "I am lactose and tolerance, I can't have any dairy products."


Lactose and tolerance...... sounds like a great band name!
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Re: The loss of cliché comprehension in modern text

Postby Allegro » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:15 am

While watching a CD of episodes from a popular teevee show, a teenaged character in one of the shows said:

"When I pulled a hamstring, I had to go to a misogynist."
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Re: The loss of cliché comprehension in modern text

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:47 pm

It's back and it still hurts!
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