THE PSEUDO-SACRIFICIAL "SLUTTING" OF HANNAH MONTANA

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Postby Julian the Apostate » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:59 pm

barracuda » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:07 pm wrote:
Jerky » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:04 pm wrote:The person who thinks there's no difference between Elvis on Ed Sullivan and Miley sucking on a menstration-stained foam dildo...


The key early Elvis performance was really on The Milton Berle Show, which predated his first appearance on Ed Sullivan and was viewed by over forty million people. That's the performance which earned him the sobriquet of "The Pelvis".

The sexual aspects of the two performances are rather roughly parallel, if one takes into account the nearly seventy years of sexual cultural inflation. Elvis simulated the pelvic thrusting of fucking, full stop, on national television at a time when there were only three channels to watch. Perhaps more scandalous but less widely acknowledged was his parody of the southern Pentecostal church gyrations which accompanied the transmission of the Holy Spirit to the congregation. But what riled up the concern trolls of 1956 was the response of the young women in the audience. They screamed and hyperventilated in ecstasy. Orgasms were achieved, maybe even.


If I could share a little too much information for a moment…my wife had her first orgasm watching Elvis on TV, she says. She was about 12 years old or so, Elvis came on the TV and she had never seen or felt anything like it, and then all of a sudden “POW!” She didn’t know it at the time but thinking back she realizes it was her first orgasm.

I think that is a great story
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Re: THE PSEUDO-SACRIFICIAL "SLUTTING" OF HANNAH MONTANA

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Re: THE PSEUDO-SACRIFICIAL "SLUTTING" OF HANNAH MONTANA

Postby Laodicean » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:31 pm

Yeah, it's all breaking bad at this point. Sure makes for great lulz, though. Spoilers.

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Postby vince » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:38 pm

Laodicean » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:31 pm wrote:Yeah, it's all breaking bad at this point. Sure makes for great lulz, though. Spoilers.


I know that's who I was watching...... HANK & MARIE !!!

Wasn't the rest of America???
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Re: THE PSEUDO-SACRIFICIAL "SLUTTING" OF HANNAH MONTANA

Postby justdrew » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:46 pm

We Own the Day, Charlie Owns the Night



It’s our party we can do what we want
It’s our party we can say what we want
It’s our party we can love who we want
We can kiss who we want
We can see who we want (2x)

Red cups and sweaty bodies everywhere
Hands in the air like we don’t care
Cause we came to have so much fun now
Bet somebody here might get some now

If you’re not ready to go home
Can I get a hell no
Cause we gonna go all night
Till we see the sunlight alright

So la da di da di, we like to party
Dancing with Miley
Doing whatever we want
This is our house
This is our rules
And we can’t stop
And we won’t stop
Can’t you see it’s we who own the night
Can’t you see it we who bout’ that life
And we can’t stop
And we won’t stop
We run things, Things don’t run we
We don't take nothing from nobody

It’s our party we can do what we want
It’s our party we can say what we want
It’s our party we can love who we want
We can kiss who we want
We can see who we want

To my home girls here with the big butt
Shaking it like we at a strip club
Remember only God can judge ya
Forget the haters cause somebody loves ya
And everyone in line in the bathroom
Trying to get a line in the bathroom
We all so turned up here
Getting turned up, yeah, yeah

So la da di da di, we like to party
Dancing with Miley
Doing whatever we want
This is our house
This is our rules
And we can’t stop
And we won’t stop
Can’t you see it’s we who own the night
Can’t you see it we who bout’ that life
And we can’t stop
And we won’t stop
We run things
Things don’t run we
We don't take nothing from nobody

It’s our party we can do what we want
It’s our party we can say what we want
It’s our party we can love who we want
We can kiss who we want
We can see who we want

It’s our party we can do what we want to
It’s our house we can love who we want to
It’s our song we can sing if we want to
It’s my mouth I can say what I want to
Yea, Yea, Yeah

And we can’t stop
And we won’t stop
Can’t you see it’s we who own the night
Can’t you see it we who bout’ that life
And we can’t stop
And we won’t stop
We run things
Things don’t run we
We don't take nothing from nobody
Yea, Yea, Yea
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Postby JackRiddler » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:19 pm

Well, at least it's a stimulus against the threat of stagnation in the vital memebox industry.

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Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:30 pm

I don't have a link yet, but David Letterman actually proposed the whole twerking Cyrus distraction happened so we wouldn't take Assad out. If only.
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Postby justdrew » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:46 pm

the song seems fairly explicit in it's rejection of all the hand wringing, cluck-clucking, defenders of "decency" - the very people who sit idly by while their gubamint conducts all-too-often baseless murder all over the world. While dog-fighting, cock-fighting, and murder-tool obsession run rampant. The only thing most people are objecting to is the context of the performance, the content is not really exceptional in any way. It's objectionable because the content was displayed out of it's usual somewhat 'underground' club-scene culture.

Sechs? oh my. you might get preg-e-nant! or an std! it's rlly serius k. AS IF that's never happened to people before in history.

That said, the whole, "performing in your underwear" thing is a bit played out isn't it? and yet, why not? Sexual expression is pro-human and FAR better than violent alternatives.

anyway, this song explains the process of this sort of entertainment...


this is the actual video, but you might check some live versions too.
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Postby Luther Blissett » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:08 pm

When I was twenty and in art school, I was friends with non-mind controlled women who hosted parties at which everyone was obliged to take their clothes off. Some of these women may have loved the chance to express their sexuality outside of the confines of a small hosted party. I'm not so sure I want to be in the business of a) guessing whether a young woman is mind-controlled or not, or b) dictating what she can and cannot do with her body. As far as sex on tv is concerned, I think civilization would be far better off with that than with violence as entertainment.

Also, I'm not so sure that molly is all that nefarious of a drug.
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Re: THE PSEUDO-SACRIFICIAL "SLUTTING" OF HANNAH MONTANA

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:13 pm

justdrew » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:46 pm wrote:the song seems fairly explicit in it's rejection of all the hand wringing, cluck-clucking, defenders of "decency" - the very people who sit idly by while their gubamint conducts all-too-often baseless murder all over the world. While dog-fighting, cock-fighting, and murder-tool obsession run rampant. The only thing most people are objecting to is the context of the performance, the content is not really exceptional in any way.


I think, as I've said, that the context of VMA is unremarkable and would have stirred no particular outrage; the point is that this was the actor who formerly played "Hannah Montana" rocking the boat of hypocritical, Disneyfied values, in which the brainwashing of children is considered wholesome entertainment, but adults acting childish about sex is supposed to be a moral atrocity.

Against my better judgement, I finally watched the video in full. I am appalled more than ever at the ludicrous, utterly phony response of the cluck-cluckers, even in our midst. I was watching it with an artist who has a 13 year old daughter and all she could find to remark on was how cheesy the set and props were, how void of interest the entire performance. To which I add: and how completely unremarkable. Was it vulgar? Sure. Shame on all who are inflating this non-event. One good thing can be said about it, as Drew points out: it was already anticipating how your pornographic-minded puritan minds would react and preemptively telling you to fuck off. This was its great success.

The episode is even worse than the Janet Jackson breast-flash hysteria, though entirely in that vein. As Barrie Zwicker said soon after at the 2004 Toronto 9/11 conference, the only thing exposed was the bankrupt values of the corporate media who reported on it. This time, also of the quasi-professionalized conspiracy scene. Sorry Jerky!

Also sorry if this has already been posted on this thread:


http://www.theonion.com/articles/let-me ... /?ref=auto

Let Me Explain Why Miley Cyrus’ VMA Performance Was Our Top Story This Morning
Commentary • Opinion • news media • ISSUE 49•35 • Aug 26, 2013
By Meredith Artley, Managing Editor Of CNN.com

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Over the years, CNN.com has become a news website that many people turn to for top-notch reporting. Every day it is visited by millions of people, all of whom rely on “The Worldwide Leader in News”—that’s our slogan—for the most crucial, up-to-date information on current events. So, you may ask, why was this morning’s top story, a spot usually given to the most important foreign or domestic news of the day, headlined “Miley Cyrus Did What???” and accompanied by the subhead “Twerks, stuns at VMAs”?

It’s a good question. And the answer is pretty simple. It was an attempt to get you to click on CNN.com so that we could drive up our web traffic, which in turn would allow us to increase our advertising revenue.

There was nothing, and I mean nothing, about that story that related to the important news of the day, the chronicling of significant human events, or the idea that journalism itself can be a force for positive change in the world. For Christ’s sake, there was an accompanying story with the headline “Miley’s Shocking Moves.” In fact, putting that story front and center was actually doing, if anything, a disservice to the public. And come to think of it, probably a disservice to the hundreds of thousands of people dying in Syria, those suffering from the current unrest in Egypt, or, hell, even people who just wanted to read about the 50th anniversary of Martin Luther King’s “I Have A Dream” speech.

But boy oh boy did it get us some web traffic. Which is why I, Meredith Artley, managing editor of CNN.com, put the story in our top spot. Those of us watching on Google Analytics saw the number of homepage visits skyrocket the second we put up that salacious image of Miley Cyrus dancing half nude on the VMA stage. But here’s where it gets great: We don’t just do a top story on the VMA performance and call it a day. No, no. We also throw in a slideshow called “Evolution of Miley,” which, for those of you who don’t know, is just a way for you to mindlessly click through 13 more photos of Miley Cyrus. And if we get 500,000 of you to do that, well, 500,000 multiplied by 13 means we can get 6.5 million page views on that slideshow alone. Throw in another slideshow titled “6 ‘don’t miss’ VMA moments,” and it’s starting to look like a pretty goddamned good Monday, numbers-wise. Also, there are two videos—one of the event and then some bullshit two-minute clip featuring our “entertainment experts” talking about the performance.

Side note: Advertisers, along with you idiots, love videos. Another side note: The Miley Cyrus story was in the same top spot we used for our 9/11 coverage.

Now, let's get back to why we put the story in the most coveted spot on our website, thereby saying, essentially, that Miley Cyrus’ suggestive dancing is the most important thing going on in the world right now. If you clicked on the story, and all the slideshows, and all the other VMA coverage, that means you’ve probably been on CNN.com for more than seven minutes, which lowers our overall bounce rate. Do you know what that is? Sorry for getting a little technical here. The bounce rate is the percentage of visitors to a particular website who navigate away from the site after viewing only one page. If we can keep that bounce rate low, and show companies that people don’t just go to CNN.com but stay there, then we can go to Ford or McDonald’s or Samsonite or whatever big company you can think of and ask for the big bucks.

So, as managing editor of CNN.com, I want our readers to know this: All you are to us, and all you will ever be to us, are eyeballs. The more eyeballs on our content, the more cash we can ask for. Period. And if we’re able to get more eyeballs, that means I’ve done my job, which gets me congratulations from my bosses, which encourages me to put up even more stupid bullshit on the homepage.

I don’t hesitate to call it stupid bullshit because we all know it’s stupid bullshit. We know it and you know it. We also know that you are probably dumb enough, or bored enough, or both, to click on the stupid bullshit anyway, and that you will continue to do so as long as we keep putting it in front of your big, idiot faces. You want to know how many more page views the Miley Cyrus thing got than our article on the wildfires ravaging Yosemite? Like 6 gazillion more.

That’s on you, not us.

To be sure, I could have argued that Miley Cyrus’ performance merited the top spot on our website because it was significant in terms of what’s happening in the world of pop culture, or that her over-the-top theatrics are worth covering because they are somehow representative of the lengths to which performers must go to stand out in the current entertainment landscape. But who the fuck are we kidding? Truth be told, anything at last night’s VMAs short of Lady Gaga beheading Will Smith with a broadsword belongs tucked away in our entertainment section, far from the homepage, far from the top spot, and far from the eyes of anyone who logged on to our site this morning to see what was happening in the world.

But then not nearly as many people would have seen it, which wouldn’t get us the page views we want, which wouldn’t get us the money we want, which wouldn’t get me the congratulations I want. So you see, there’s no stopping this. And what is this, you ask? Modern-day journalism. And what is modern-day journalism? Getting you to click on this link.
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Postby justdrew » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:15 pm

just read the baying of these hyenas:

Cyrus, who twerked away in her video “We Can’t Stop,” has come under fire for appropriating black culture for her own profit.

In the Huffington Post, entertainment editor Kia Makarechi slammed Miley’s “reckless use of black culture as proof that she’s subversive and no longer a Disney star.”

Actress Brooke Shields, who played Cyrus’s mother on the popular kids’ show “Hannah Montana,” expressed her concern during a turn as a guest host of NBC’s Today show.

“I was Hannah Montana’s mother. I do not approve,” Shields said. “Where did I go wrong? I just want to know who’s advising her, and why it’s necessary?”

The Parents Television Council (PTC) hit out at MTV for “marketing sexually charged messages to young children using former child stars.”

“MTV continues to sexually exploit young women by promoting acts that incorporate ‘twerking’ in a nude-colored bikini. How is this image of former child star Miley Cyrus appropriate for 14-year-olds?” read a statement from the PTC.

“Heads should roll at MTV,” said PTC Advisory Board Member Paul Porter.

Oddly enough, the pop-star’s equally famous father Billy Ray Cyrus serves on the PTC board.

The New York Times highlighted the “clumsy white appropriation of black culture,” accusing Cyrus of molesting Thicke in a “shambolic, trickster-esque performance.”

Heidi Cardenas, a mother of two teenage boys, wrote on CNN’s Facebook page that Cyrus was “making a vulgar joke out of her talents and her beauty” and had let down her fans.

However the young songstress — in 2011 the richest teen in Hollywood — was unflustered by the hail of criticism, mocking web articles and twerking memes.

She tweeted remarks from Rollling Stone magazine that she had “stolen the night”, and posted a few more racy pictures of herself.

“My VMA performance had 306,000 tweets per minute. That’s more than the blackout or Superbowl!” she wrote on Twitter.


"under fire for appropriating black culture for her own profit"

bwa ha hah ha ha. only blacks "twerk it" - apparently. :roll:
as for the rest of the deconstruction of that critique, I'll leave that in the 'too obvious for words' bin.
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Postby justdrew » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:23 pm

quite right Jack!

but, It's also ok to be a little "shocked" or put-off by the whole thing - and it's not as though I had any interest in the VMAs or any... ANY of the 'acts' (justin timberlake FFS?) - but the degree of mainstream media spectacle and tone is the real sad story here. but hey, they're chasing eyeballs DESPERATELY, and they know their audience and what they want to hear.

The total mainstream abdication to whoring for audience share has just descended to pathetic levels. People want AUTHENTIC human voices, real people, not bizarre automatons desperately aping the results of last nights deceptive push poling.

There should be an experiment somehow, where everybody starts tweeting/facebooking about some total non-existent nonsense and see how long it takes the Lamestream media to start covering the totally fabricated psudoreality.

but of course, they do that all the time, just it usually starts above rather than from below.
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Postby DrEvil » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:29 pm

justdrew » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:15 am wrote:
"under fire for appropriating black culture for her own profit"

bwa ha hah ha ha. only blacks "twerk it" - apparently. :roll:
as for the rest of the deconstruction of that critique, I'll leave that in the 'too obvious for words' bin.


Well yeah. Everyone knows that only black women have that special kind of wobbly ass with just the right amount of mass displacement vs. g-force that makes twerking look good.
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Postby justdrew » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:32 pm

DrEvil » 27 Aug 2013 17:29 wrote:
justdrew » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:15 am wrote:
"under fire for appropriating black culture for her own profit"

bwa ha hah ha ha. only blacks "twerk it" - apparently. :roll:
as for the rest of the deconstruction of that critique, I'll leave that in the 'too obvious for words' bin.


Well yeah. Everyone knows that only black women have that special kind of wobbly ass with just the right amount of mass displacement vs. g-force that makes twerking look good.
White, skinny chicks just don't cut it. :hrumph


:rofl2

as far as I'm concerned, it's the thought that counts. the Intent to Twerk is good enough. If that's what they want to do :oops:
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Postby DrVolin » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:33 pm

Ann Margret. Hubba hubba.
all these dreams are swept aside
By bloody hands of the hypnotized
Who carry the cross of homicide
And history bears the scars of our civil wars

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