Why is Counterpunch vile?

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Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?

Postby American Dream » Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:05 pm

If you want to start a thread expressing your critique of the anti-German Movement, I would be interested to read it for sure and might possibly have some kind of commentary to add. The one and only response I will be giving you here is to quote from the "About" page- which you could and should have looked up for yourself:



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A blog about the anti-imperialist, anti-capitalist, anti-fascist and anti-globalization movements, analysing the convergences between right-wing thought and false forms of anti-capitalism. My original inspiration for the blog was to draw on the German “anti-German” communist current to think about the reactionary currents within the emancipatory movements I have experienced in the English-speaking world – but I am not now and never have been an “anti-German”, and I don’t read much German either…



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Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:11 pm

American Dream » Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:05 pm wrote:If you want to start a thread expressing your critique of the anti-German Movement, I would be interested to read it for sure and might possibly have some kind of commentary to add. The one and only response I will be giving you here is to quote from the "About" page- which you could and should have looked up for yourself:



about

A blog about the anti-imperialist, anti-capitalist, anti-fascist and anti-globalization movements, analysing the convergences between right-wing thought and false forms of anti-capitalism. My original inspiration for the blog was to draw on the German “anti-German” communist current to think about the reactionary currents within the emancipatory movements I have experienced in the English-speaking world – but I am not now and never have been an “anti-German”, and I don’t read much German either…



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Oh, ffs, you do not defend an article you posted by quoting the fucking "about" page, unless you are mentally retarded. (Do you even read your own thread titles? Do you actually read anything you post here??)

Defend what you posted and highlighted here from those repulsive powerworshipping state tools for our delectation here at RI. Or else retract it.

Otherwise I will have no hesitation in saying that you are a troll, and worse: a troll with an agenda -- to bore this board to death.
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Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?

Postby solace » Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:21 pm

What kind of creep is Lamb?

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Franklin Lamb (R), author of "US Preparing for a Post-Israel Middle East?" with child murderer Samir Kuntar.

Fuck Lamb, the idiots who publish him and the morons who defend him.
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Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:26 pm

these are just from 2014 and continuing 2015....I'll go back further later on..

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Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?

Postby Searcher08 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:00 pm

Solace "quotes". This is who American Dream calls 'deeply perceptive' and is an ally of.


seemslikeadream » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:26 pm wrote:these are just from 2014 and continuing 2015....I'll go back further later on..

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Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:16 pm

more from 2014

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and then there's b p h to the rescue....don't get me started on him
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Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?

Postby solace » Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:31 pm

Counterpunch Defends Neo-Nazism

Counterpunch serves as a wax museum that displays 20th century totalitarianisms and the type of people attracted to it. For no entry fee at all an individual can recoil at a neo-nazi's praise for Pol Pot and denial of the Cambodian genocide. Tourists can also take in exhibits like Allison Weir's belief that the blood libel is historic fact to defend her claims of a non-existent Israeli organ smuggling ring. So many examples of human depravity and imbecility frozen in time to observe like any good freak show or horror museum.

The lunatic fringe are pathetically predictable; few people capable of creative thought join the far-left or far-right. Such ideologies attract mentally stunted people who seek meaning and find it in rejection of reason and morality. Any prominent action against logic and elementary ethics will inevitably receive vocal support from assorted degenerate ideological circles like counterpunch. Defenses of depravity are motivated by more than sympathy for savagery; exteremists are aware that they are a minority up against reality thus their clannish tendency to defend each other with ferocity rivaling outlaw motorcyle gangs. The average far-left or far-right ideologue will dismiss mass murder as a trivial issue that can be exonerated by pointing to something else but react with righteous fury against what he or she sees as a real inexcusable evil; a friend being criticized.


Hack comedian Dieudonné M'bala M'bala became the subject of controversy for inventing a covert third reich salute. Dieudonne's track record includes wishing that concentration camp gas chambers were still in operation and mocking the Holocaust with Robert Faurisson while wearing an SS officer's uniform. All of which makes Dianna Johnstone an ideal candidate to defend him. Johnstone's subcultural fame rests on her praise for Serbian fascism which includes denial of war rape. Her fame grew from a ridiculous campaign claiming that a rejection from a publisher violated her freedom of speech, it would be no exaggeration to say that she is the duck dynasty of the far-left.

Johnstone opened by denying the obvious about the quenelle and ridiculing the idea that a man who expressed desire for the Holocaust to be currently ongoing could be a nazi. She insisted that the gesture is simply an anti-establishment action that only means "F— the system." Except that Dieudonne defines the 'establishment' as a Jewish conspiracy to control France; by his own words it is an anti-Semitic symbol. (The notion of revolting against imaginary Jewish rules was central in NSDAP ideology.) Her denial prove nothing apart from her own racism she can be easily proven false by photos of people performing Dieudonne's gesture at Auschwitz. She concluded her denial by arguing that Jewish organization are part of the "system"; she defended an obvious anti-Semite by resorting to anti-Semitic Jewish control tropes.

Johnstone engaged in partial Holocaust denial of the Petain regime's role in the Shoah. She argued that French Jews "actually largely escaped the deportation during German occupation that expelled Jewish immigrants to concentration camps." Which is a boldfaced lie; the Petain regime actively sent native or immigrant Jews to their deaths without any pressure from the third reich. Johnstone only proved her anti-Semitism and nostalgia for French fascism.

Dianna described the Holocaust as a "state religion" calling the Shoah a religion is a classic neo-nazi trope, further affirming her Judenhaus. She bemoaned the "Gayssot Law" which "bans any questioning of the history of the Shoah, an altogether unprecedented interference with freedom of speech." There is a legitimate freedom of speech case to be made against laws criminalizing Shoah denial which is exploited by the far-right. Dianna has a long record of apologetics for dictatorships which crushed free speech; clearly her opposition to laws against Holocaust denial is rooted in sympathy for neo-nazism not free speech purism.

She whined that "France is the rare country where the BDS (Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions) movement against Israeli settlement practices can also be attacked as “incitement to racial hatred."" Vive le France! Thats one thing they got right! Johnstone attempted to legitimize anti-Semitism by arguing that " it is not hard for French people of Arab or African background to feel that the “communitarianism” that really has clout is the Jewish community." An example of the apologist tactic of painting Jew hatred as a legit expression of frustration against imagined Jewish prosperity or power.

After citing Norman Finkelstein who compared Hezbollah to anti-nazi resistance fighters she set the stage for further apologetics for Jew hatred. According to DJ the memory of the Holocaust has created a culture of self hating guilt which summarizes as "do you feel French? Or German? You should feel guilty about it – because of Auschwitz." Utter nonsense: patriotic displays in Germany and France are common, its hard to avoid the impression that she conflated German and French fascism with German and French national identities.

Johnstone detailed how "Dieudonné transformed an old semi-racist “tropical” song, Chaud Cacao, into Shoah Ananas" which mocks and celebrats the Holocaust and "taken up en masse by Dieudonné fans." After having provided evidence that shreds her define of Dieudone she provided another example of her Jew hatred: she believes "that they are not making fun of the real Shoah, but rather of the constant reminders of events that are supposed to make them feel guilty, insignificant and powerless." Johnstone has only proved that she supports mocking and celebrating the Holocaust.

She concluded her wretched exercise in depravity with further justification for anti-Semitism by ranting that: "France has adopted laws to “punish anti-Semitism”. The result is the opposite. Such measures simply tend to confirm the old notion that “the Jews run the country” and contribute to growing anti-Semitism. When French youth see a Franco-Israeli attempt to outlaw a simple gesture, when the Jewish community moves to ban their favorite humorist, anti-Semitism can only grow even more rapidly." Johnstone follows an anti-Semitic tradition by blaming Jew hatred on everyone but anti-Semites themselves and arguing that Jews bring anti-Semitism upon themselves. The true cause is human irrationality, bestial hatred and its proponents like Johnstone.


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Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:42 pm

solace's very first post at RI...kinda sets his tone...

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where do you find the time to search all my 60,000 posts on the net solace?
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Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?

Postby American Dream » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:43 pm

http://tendancecoatesy.wordpress.com/20 ... far-right/

Counterpunch Attacks Pussy Riot and Links Up with Euro Far-Right.



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Alliance of ‘Anti-Imperialists’ and Euro Far-Right?

Is CounterPunch now the US vehicle for the European ‘anti-imperialist’ and extreme right alliance represented by Entre la plume et l’enclume? *

The Spanish Prisoner (a highly recommended site) signals Israel Shamir’s most recent offering.

He cites (from the latest Counterpunch) The Secret History of Pussy Riot, (Hitting the Commercial Jackpot) by Shamir.

During the trial, the defence and the accused did their worst to antagonize the judge by threatening her with the wrath of the United States (sic!) and by defiantly voicing anti-Christian hate speeches. The judge had no choice but to find the accused guilty of hate crime (hooliganism with religious hate as the motive). The prosecution did not charge the accused with a more serious hate crime “with intent to cause religious strife”, though it could probably be made to stick. (It would call for a stiffer sentence; swastika-drawers charged with intent to cause strife receive five years of jail).


He comments,

Two years’ sentence is quite in line with prevailing European practice. For much milder anti-Jewish hate talk, European countries customarily sentence offenders to two-to-five years of prison for the first offence. The Russians applied hate crime laws to offenders against Christian faith, and this is probably a Russian novelty. The Russians proved that they care for Christ as much as the French care for Auschwitz, and this shocked the Europeans who apparently thought ‘hate laws’ may be applied only to protect Jews and gays. The Western governments call for more freedom for the anti-Christian Russians, while denying it for holocaust revisionists in their midst.


Shamir should know about this: he regularly writes for the Revisionist and Holocaust denial site Entre la plume et l’enclume.

He has written on Holocaust denial,

The legal enforcers of the Holocaust want us to bow down to the idol of Jewish superiority, or else! They won’t jail Deborah Lipstadt for denial of the Holocaust of Dresden, or Guenter Lewy who penned a lengthy piece entitled Were American Indians the Victims of Genocide? denying the genocide of native Americans. The Jews produced and published these denials for the same reason they published the Satanic Pictures – in order to emphasise the difference between a goy and a Jew. They want you to remember: you may profane Islam and Christianity, but not Judaism. You may discount the suffering of anybody but the Jews.


We have dealt with his efforts to cast doubt on Dreyfus’s innocence and the announcement that Counterpunch intended to publish this.

Apparently Counterpunch is ‘left-wing’.

It continues to reproduce Shamir’s material.

It will be interesting to see how New Left Review mentions (or does not mention) Alexander Cockburn’s career in Counterpunch and his ties with Shamir in their next issue.



* For information on this site and its Holocaust denial see here.
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Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:55 pm

Aha, the plot thickens. So now it's also "vile" (sic) to suggest that Pussy Riot might not be the wholly admirable Freedom Fighters they say they are?

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Or what? Spit it out, "American Dream" (sic).

In your own words. Yours or Hillary's.
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Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?

Postby American Dream » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:08 pm

Here is the original article from the Spanish Prisoner:


http://thespanishprisoner.com/2012/08/2 ... nterpunch/

Israel Shamir and CounterPunch

Why does CounterPunch, which is ostensibly a left-wing website, continue to post articles by the neo-fascist nutjob, Israel Shamir? You only have to read Shamir’s website to see that the guy is crazy. Yet he is apparently not too crazy to be published by CounterPunch.

CounterPunch has just posted an article by Shamir entitled The Secret History of Pussy Riot. In it, he repeatedly refers to the members of the band by the misogynist term, “viragos”. This fact alone should have been sufficient reason to reject the article. Alas, it’s actually even worse than that. Shamir argues that the Putin government was right to send these women to prison for merely expressing their opinions. He writes:

Two years’ sentence is quite in line with prevailing European practice. For much milder anti-Jewish hate talk, European countries customarily sentence offenders to two-to-five years of prison for the first offence. The Russians applied hate crime laws to offenders against Christian faith, and this is probably a Russian novelty. The Russians proved that they care for Christ as much as the French care for Auschwitz, and this shocked the Europeans who apparently thought ‘hate laws’ may be applied only to protect Jews and gays. The Western governments call for more freedom for the anti-Christian Russians, while denying it for holocaust revisionists in their midst.


Why does CounterPunch insult its readers by posting this garbage? The kindest thing one can assume here is that they didn’t bother to read this article.

Shamir has ties to the Lukaschenko dictatorship in Belarus. When David Irving was sentenced to prison for Holocaust deanial, Shamir wrote:

Thus we should say: David Irving was sentenced for denial of Jewish superiority. His doom seals the reign of (albeit limited) freedom that began with the fall of Bastille. European history went full circle: from rejecting the rule of Church and embracing free thought, to the new Jewish mind-control on a world scale. Not only is Western Christian civilisation dead, but even its successor, secular European civilisation, has met its demise only a few days after its proud and last celebration by the Danish scribes. It was short-lived: about two hundred years from beginning to the end, the Europeans may once have had the illusion that they can live without an ideological supremacy. Now this illusion is over; and the Jews came in the stead of the old and tired See of St Peter to rule over the minds and souls of Europeans.

This is anti-Semitism, plain and simple. The Breivik shootings in Norway have shown that fascism is still a force to be reckoned with. Yet the editors of CounterPunch apparently think it is all a joke.
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Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:13 pm

I asked you a question. And it wasn't, "Can you copy-and-paste yet another article I don't need to read?"
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Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:24 pm

Why does this thread still exist?

Why did this thread ever exist?

Questions, questions...
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Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?

Postby American Dream » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:26 pm

Mac, I don't like your attitude- or your manner of argumentation- so I'm putting you on "ignore" now. It's been a long time coming, and it's really for the best.
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Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?

Postby Searcher08 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:30 pm

American Dream » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:26 pm wrote:Mac, I don't like your attitude- or your manner of argumentation- so I'm putting you on "ignore" now. It's been a long time coming, and it's really for the best.


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