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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:24 pm

Does anybody remember if there is an article posted that refers to a Tokyo scientist who is convinced of ^^^? I want to poke around in it if anyone remembers.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby Nordic » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:53 pm

So who's making all these quakes happen, The Joker?

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Let's try to keep this in the realm of reality.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby Iamwhomiam » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:57 pm

82_28 wrote:

Is there anything you recommend as far as detecting traces of radiation in a garden and other fresh foods?

You're really not going to eat any fresh vegetables this year? How widespread is this sentiment among your environmental circles?


82, there is no very cheap radiation detector that measures multiple isotopes that I'm aware of. Since the beginning of this year I have been working with a team of environmental and other scientists, Professors at RPI, designing such a multifacted sensor. It will be modular, adaptable to identifying different pollutants and inexpensive. I haven't spoken with the research scientists at Harvard's School of Public Health since January about this, but we've been focused on cement plant pollutants and these do include some radioactive particulates.

No, I won't be eating any fresh produce grown this season and I'll have to give up eating cheeses too. I'm old and I don't want to starve, so I'll have to see if I can locate an indoor hydroponic grower who utilizes well water. As bad as it is for you, I love cheese but I doubt I'll be eating any fresh cheeses either.

Many of my environmentalist friends who oppose nuclear power and concentrate on remediating radioactive sites are of a similar mind. Others are as unaware of the dangers posed by this catastrophe as most of the public is.

This just showed up in my inbox: http://www.ewg.org/release/soil-erosion-corn-belt-much-worse-official-estimates

Not very comforting news, I'm afraid.

Edited once to correct link and to add this: I can not edit my earlier posting relating the link to the Chernobyl book, but the figure I related can be found on page 222 of the document. (not the .pdf page number)
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby 8bitagent » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:57 pm

People who talk about HAARP forget about the overall seismic changes the Earth is going through, as well as the factor of increased solar flares and other related activity.
I try not to play into the cliche "2012" meme, but things for whatever reason sure seem to be complimenting that theory with all that's going on in the world. I hear theories about HAARP, DEW,
and other electronic weaponry being able to alter the landscape. But to me it seems like something way beyond man's reach
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby Nordic » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:01 pm

8bitagent wrote:People who talk about HAARP forget about the overall seismic changes the Earth is going through, as well as the factor of increased solar flares and other related activity.
I try not to play into the cliche "2012" meme, but things for whatever reason sure seem to be complimenting that theory with all that's going on in the world. I hear theories about HAARP, DEW,
and other electronic weaponry being able to alter the landscape. But to me it seems like something way beyond man's reach



How can you say that? Big earthquakes have never happened before, not until the neo-cons took office.

Hell, even Pompeii was buried because the citizens of pompeii knew too much about the Roman's HAARP machine, and they threatened to go public. So KABOOM!

And it was all, of course, brought to the planet by space aliens.

The Great Pyramid was the first HAARP. It backfired, as these things always do.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby WakeUpAndLive » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:20 pm

Nordic wrote:
WakeUpAndLive wrote:Nordic, did your parents grow up in southern california as well?? It may have even been you who posted that video about the Simi Valley test reactor that used some sodium coolant which failed and sent radioactivity everywhere. Because it was a test facility there was no required containment structure and resulted in a lot of radiation in the atmosphere. My grandpa died of leukemia in 1994, ever since hearing about that reactor I've questioned its role.



No, she grew up in St. Louis, a little area called Overland.

I want to find some maps of cancer incidence, if they exist, that might show me something about that area.

I can't remember if I posted that video or not here, I shared it on FB at the very least, so I remember exactly what you're talking about.



Not a map of cancer incidents, but definitely a interesting look into the history of nuclear testing based on year, country, and location of testing....maybe there is some correlation there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U8CZAKSsNA
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby Nordic » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:32 pm

Wakeup, I just found this:

http://statecancerprofiles.cancer.gov/m ... oimage.php

It's pretty amazing. You plug in all the info and it generates a map.

Pretty fascinating to see how different areas can have much much higher rates of certain kinds of cancer!

Where my mom grew up seems fairly average for thyroid, but definitely higher for ovarian, which is what killed her.

I'm gonna check out other places that she lived .....
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:37 pm

8bitagent wrote:People who talk about HAARP forget about the overall seismic changes the Earth is going through, as well as the factor of increased solar flares and other related activity.
I try not to play into the cliche "2012" meme, but things for whatever reason sure seem to be complimenting that theory with all that's going on in the world. I hear theories about HAARP, DEW,
and other electronic weaponry being able to alter the landscape. But to me it seems like something way beyond man's reach



Maybe you are not looking in the right places. The specifications and capabilities of this device have been published multiple times by official sources themselves. If you want to really see what this thing can do look at the legislation introduced by Dennis Kucinich in an effort to throttle this thing.

This is no small time operation. It has harness on an almost unlimited supply of power generated between the earth and the ionosphere. This not pocket change. Norway, who is a key component of the system, probably produced a nice example with that spiral. This device is more powerful than any weapon on earth.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby lupercal » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:20 pm

eyeno wrote:If you want to really see what this thing can do look at the legislation introduced by Dennis Kucinich in an effort to throttle this thing.


Here it is:
H.R.2977 -- Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in House - IH)

HR 2977 IH - 107th CONGRESS - 1st Session - H. R. 2977

To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

October 2, 2001

Mr. KUCINICH introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Science, and in addition to the Committees on Armed Services, and International Relations, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

A BILL

To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Space Preservation Act of 2001'.

SEC. 2. REAFFIRMATION OF POLICY ON THE PRESERVATION OF PEACE IN SPACE.

Congress reaffirms the policy expressed in section 102(a) of the National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958 (42 U.S.C. 2451(a)), stating that it `is the policy of the United States that activities in space should be devoted to peaceful purposes for the benefit of all mankind.'.

SEC. 3. PERMANENT BAN ON BASING OF WEAPONS IN SPACE.

The President shall--

(1) implement a permanent ban on space-based weapons of the United States and remove from space any existing space-based weapons of the United States; and

(2) immediately order the permanent termination of research and development, testing, manufacturing, production, and deployment of all space-based weapons of the United States and their components.

SEC. 4. WORLD AGREEMENT BANNING SPACE-BASED WEAPONS.

The President shall direct the United States representatives to the United Nations and other international organizations to immediately work toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing a world agreement banning space-based weapons.

SEC. 5. REPORT.

The President shall submit to Congress not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and every 90 days thereafter, a report on--

(1) the implementation of the permanent ban on space-based weapons required by section 3; and

(2) progress toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing the agreement described in section 4.

SEC. 6. NON SPACE-BASED WEAPONS ACTIVITIES.

Nothing in this Act may be construed as prohibiting the use of funds for--

(1) space exploration;

(2) space research and development;

(3) testing, manufacturing, or production that is not related to space-based weapons or systems; or

(4) civil, commercial, or defense activities (including communications, navigation, surveillance, reconnaissance, early warning, or remote sensing) that are not related to space-based weapons or systems.

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:

(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.

(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:

(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--

(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;

(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;

(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or

(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.

(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--

(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);

(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or

(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.

(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--

(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;

(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;

(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;

(v) laser weapons systems;

(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and

(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.

(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.2977:


(let me know if this is screwing up anyone's screen and I'll try to re-paste it so it doesn't)

p.s. introduced 3 weeks after 911 too. No cosponsors and of course it went nowhere but I wonder, does Dennis know something we don't know?
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:51 pm

Has anyone seen this video? And what do you think of it?


Huge Object Above Fukushima 2011 (Read Description)
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby Nordic » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:00 pm

That's weird. I can't tell what the heck it is. Does the news person talk about it? Mein Deutsch ist sehr schlecht.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:10 pm

I must be blind. I don't see anything in the video slad just posted.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:13 pm

Nordic wrote:That's weird. I can't tell what the heck it is. Does the news person talk about it? Mein Deutsch ist sehr schlecht.



They are asking if this is the same thing in this video
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:14 pm

eyeno wrote:I must be blind. I don't see anything in the video slad just posted.


Check out the vid at .54 to 1.03 seconds
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
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Don’t forget that.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby anothershamus » Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:32 am

No UFO's in this vid, just bad news.
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