Huge explosion in Oslo

[8bitagent]

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They did it because we occupy their Holy Lands and Install & Support Dictators.

The left, schuer and academia never were able to sell me on



(Im a big tricky/massive attack fan nonetheless)

Maybe that was the ruse they were able to brainwash the 19 manchurians with, like sirhan with palestinian issues...

At any rate, surprised I never saw or read perfect soldiers, as Ive aten up quite a lot of both mainstream and alternative 9/11 related books

[justdrew]

don't these fascists know the Templars were a bunch of "homos" ? or has everyone forgotten that little bit of hack-history.
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Anyway, Lone Tigers... ATTACK!

probably time to start thinking about the response and how we attack their ability to conduct further military operations.

[8bitagent]

Well, thank you elfismiles, and I apologise to both of you for the confusion.

One thing: No doubt it's possible to find 19 very nasty fucked-up people in any country, but it doesn't necessarily mean they're all mass murderers who are happily suicidal to boot. (Hardly anyone is.) Even less does it prove that they were. By contrast, there's practically no doubt that Breivik did what he did, whether with or without accomplices, and he is very likely going to get a fair trial, where he will be identified by many of those who saw him do what he did, and where he will have an opportunity to identify himself and be defended by a lawyer. All this distinguishes him already from those 19 alleged hijackers, however nasty or fucked-up any of these people may or may not have been. Even if Mr. McDermott manages to demonstrate that they all had a) very bad characters, and b) perfectly happy childhoods (however unlikely that combination already sounds), that's a very different thing from proving that they did in fact murder themselves and nearly 3,000 other people on September 11th 2001.

But I'm stating the bleeding obvious at interminable length again, so I'll stop. And I don't want to throw the thread any more off-topic, so goodnight.

That's why to me this isn't a false flag even if it is a conspiracy, given Breivik is taking pride in his work. To me a true false flag is like Russia 9-99 where there doesnt seem to even be provocateur elements and its completely an intel operation

[8bitagent]

I found this at Cryptogon-
http://www.esquire.com/print-this/homegrown-terrorism-us-0811?page=all

At the beginning of this year, not long after they'd found the bomb on the bench in Spokane, a journalist named David Neiwert put together a list of nearly thirty acts of right-wing political violence that had taken place, or had been foiled, in the United States since the summer of 2008 — or roughly since Barack Obama's presidency began to be seen as a genuine possibility. The list began with Jim David Adkisson, who killed two people in a Unitarian church in Tennessee because he was angry at how "liberals" were "destroying America." It included two episodes in April 2009, one in Pittsburgh and one in Florida, in which men who were sure that Barack Obama's government was coming for their guns opened fire on law-enforcement officers who had come to investigate them on other matters.

Contrast this to how most if not virtually all the Islamist jihadi terror plots in America that were "foiled" turned out to be FBI informant led sting operations

[Nordic]

700 cell phones and no pics or vids of Breivik in action, official or otherwise? Doesn't that seem odd?

Are you out of your fucking mind? You think these kids were at Disneyland? You think they're gonna even THINK about taking a fucking PHOTO of a guy who's trying to GUN THEM DOWN?

You're insane.

[lupercal]

By contrast, there's practically no doubt that Breivik did what he did,

Yes but what did he do. I'd rate the probability that he did all he's alleged to have done (bomb, manifesto, 76 assassinations) at less than zero. Personally I'd be surprised if he killed anyone, though it's not impossible, but the full monty? Please.

and he is very likely going to get a fair trial, where he will be identified by many of those who saw him do what he did, and where he will have an opportunity to identify himself and be defended by a lawyer.

Trial yes, but let's not get carried away. Sirhan got a trial too, and his cop-attorneys took every opportunity to assure all who would listen that he was guilty as charged and to suppress evidence to the contrary. In fact one of them is still at it.

[Nordic]

Personally I'd be surprised if he killed anyone,

Considering there's video of him doing exactly that, I can only conclude that you are certifiable.


On edit; This is why I never ever recommend this site to anyone.

[lupercal]

700 cell phones and no pics or vids of Breivik in action, official or otherwise? Doesn't that seem odd?

Are you out of your fucking mind? You think these kids were at Disneyland? You think they're gonna even THINK about taking a fucking PHOTO of a guy who's trying to GUN THEM DOWN?

In a word, yes.

You're insane.

Could be.

[lupercal]

Personally I'd be surprised if he killed anyone,

Considering there's video of him doing exactly that, I can only conclude that you are certifiable.

Can you post it?

[justdrew]

Personally I'd be surprised if he killed anyone,

Considering there's video of him doing exactly that, I can only conclude that you are certifiable.

Can you post it?

gee I saw it linked from this very thread. look around page one or two. The video was from some newscopter.

[lupercal]

^ well, there's this from last page:



Call me crazy.

[Pierre d'Achoppement]

Justdrew do you mean this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9CAIrm8ekw cos yeah lets analyse that clip

[justdrew]

^ well, there's this from last page:



Call me crazy.

crazy.

you spend a lot of time at "theconservativetreehouse" ? It's sad that people feel a need to take cutout glamorshots and fake them over something like this.

[MacCruiskeen]

700 cell phones and no pics or vids of Breivik in action, official or otherwise? Doesn't seem odd?

Not even remotely. I suspect they had other priorities than taking souvenir snaps. In fact, many of those children and youths have already made it abundantly clear why they were such negligent photographers. They were trying not to freeze up in horror, trying not to literally wet themselves (some did, apparently), hiding behind mattresses in locked bedrooms, doing their very best not to make any unnecessary noise, such as screaming, crying, or clicking with a camera, scrambling to get away from the killer you expect them to have photographed, struggling desperately to reach the police and get them to come and help, texting their parents for some love and support (and imploring them to call the cops again, who were still in no hurry to get there), wondering why the world had gone mad, trying to help their friends from being slaughtered, often in vain, kissing their dead friends goodbye, running in panic from place to place, often half-naked, and swimming for their lives while dodging bullets, often in vain. Not to mention begging the bastard for mercy.

christ, it doesn't bear imagining.

but not to worry, lupercal. not even all of the bodies have been found yet, so at least some of the mobile phones might someday turn up. maybe some of those kids will even get posthumous credit for their photos, and you'll at last have the horror-images you crave.

[lupercal]

^ From among 700 gifted, technologically aware teenagers, yes, I'd expect a good portion to have a) immediately recognized the importance and value of photography, b) been in a position to snap without detection (cell phones can be muted), and c) been clear-headed enough to use the hour and a half they had to wait wisely and send out photos and video while they were waiting.

In fact I'd expect the internet to be flooded with such images, but I have yet to see one.