Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:29 pm

82_28 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:20 pm wrote:Well, SLAD. You do know I love you, but them's the facts. A first woman president will be required to have a vagina. I guess being offended will always be subjective. I just didn't see anything offensive. So again, I say, this is not going to go away so at the very least let's get along here.

In fact, I just tried whispering to myself "fucking c*nt" to see if I could. I am pleased to report I couldn't even finish before I said yeah, I can't even do it.

Well whatever. We're all to varying degrees, in this together. It's embarrassing that whatever the USA actually "chooses" does effect the rest of the world no matter what.


men telling me that Trump the woman hater who would make abortion illegal and punish women for having one would be better than Clinton...well I take offense to that...since a man doesn't have to worry his "pretty little head" about such things especially if he doesn't live in this country.

so carry on all you guys...you all know what is best no matter what country you live in...us ladies will take note

and using that vulgar word here really helps one to understand where a person is coming from...makes it quite clear
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Rory » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:33 pm

seemslikeadream » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:29 pm wrote:
82_28 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:20 pm wrote:Well, SLAD. You do know I love you, but them's the facts. A first woman president will be required to have a vagina. I guess being offended will always be subjective. I just didn't see anything offensive. So again, I say, this is not going to go away so at the very least let's get along here.

In fact, I just tried whispering to myself "fucking c*nt" to see if I could. I am pleased to report I couldn't even finish before I said yeah, I can't even do it.

Well whatever. We're all to varying degrees, in this together. It's embarrassing that whatever the USA actually "chooses" does effect the rest of the world no matter what.


men telling me that Trump the woman hater who would make abortion illegal and punish women for having one would be better than Clinton...well I take offense to that...since a man doesn't have to worry his "pretty little head" about such things especially if he doesn't live in this country.

so carry on all you guys...you all know what is best no matter what country you live in...us ladies will take note

and using that vulgar word here really helps one to understand where a person is coming from


Quite literally
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:35 pm

coming from and thinking with :P....Quite quite literally

I'll sit in the gutter with ya ...why not
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby dada » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:37 pm

JackRiddler » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:08 am wrote:We'd obviously do much better with random selection of Congress and presidents than under the present system. I'd prefer the adoption of the German system, it makes the most sense democratically and pragmatically for large republics under modern conditions. (Fully proportional representation, necessity of multiparty coalitions to form government, relative regional decentralization of federal functions, states with same system but with significant powers and participation in federal system. No one "wastes their vote.")



You make a good case for the German system. However, I still prefer this random selection idea. haha

It reminded me of something I read recently. Bit of satire by Neal Wilgus in Bob Shea's 'No Governor' zine.

(scans of no governor found here) http://bobshea.net/

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby 82_28 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:48 pm

I think that no matter what, I am voting Stein. Clinton in my view is a war criminal. There still is another woman in there. I don't look at it as an achievement to get the "first woman president" with Clinton. Trump is motherfucking disgusting in every way. That is a given. I don't judge her on her female merits but what she supposedly "stands for", whatever that means.

Again, I've said it before, but she just comes off as a lame mom and trump a drunk dad.

This is not going to go away, so let us preserve the peace in the little ways we still can. :yay
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby lyrimal » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:05 pm

After the betrayal of the primaries, after too much reflection, I cannot cast a vote for Clinton, though I'd never considered Bambino Duce an option.

Now, witnessing the hard sell kicking into overdrive, and me losing respect for personality after personality passionately misbehaving as if there is ANYTHING redeemable about Clinton, seemslikeadream's too similar exhortations have driven me over the threshold. Seemslikeadream has convinced me to man up and own my convictions. I do not want dictator Clinton to be president. Seemslikeadream has significantly helped to realize at least one more vote being cast FOR The Donald, by a bonafide socialist no less (who really digs the shared Mumia Abu Jamal sentiment upthread)

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Nordic » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:11 pm

FBI whistle blower Colleen Rowley, just now on FB:


The proxy war between U.S.-NATO and Russia is about to go full blast and maybe in the Ukraine as well as Syria. The Lame Ducks are paving the way for Killary. The threat of nuclear winter will grow and there is almost no room at 3 minutes to midnight on the Doomsday Clock for the threat to get much worse. Unfortunately, no matter what world opinion is, it won't matter if one side desides to utilize their "first strike" option. Stupid Killary and her gang don't understand that they can't win a nuclear war. Even if all US missiles hit their target and all enemy nukes are stopped by the missile shield (which is impossible), everyone dies, both sides. They are crazy if they think they can win a nuclear war but yes, they are just crazed by pursuit of power.



Please note. Colleen Rowley has a vagina.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Grizzly » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:15 pm

Why couldn't she rhave an a female VP? Also? It's not like theryar en't plentiful.

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Nordic » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:32 pm

I guess it's better to have a glowing dead vagina on your charred corpse thanks to the first female presidents nuclear war because at least Trump didn't win.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:38 pm

Nordic » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:32 pm wrote:I guess it's better to have a glowing dead vagina on your charred corpse thanks to the first female presidents nuclear war because at least Trump didn't win.


If we could ratchet down the rhetoric about 20% here, all y'all across the board, that'd be great.

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby tron » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:56 pm

does it even matter who gets in?
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Luther Blissett » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:27 pm

tron » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:56 pm wrote:does it even matter who gets in?


They are friends and it's a kayfabe, but it all depends on whether you want the overton window lurched or if you want those institutional crimes legalized.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby chump » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:53 pm

http://boingboing.net/2016/09/15/to-fin ... ikabl.html
To Find Hillary Clinton Likeable, You Must Learn to View Women as Complex Beings


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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby backtoiam » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:30 pm

This intelligent woman with common sense uses nothing but the obvious to define Clinton in 7 minutes. No dog whistles, just common sense observation. She doesn't even use all her ammo either, such as the fact that Huma Abedin (hillary chief assistant) was the assistant editor of Journal of Muslim Minority ­Affairs for about 10 years, a magazine owned and largely written by her mother.

https://youtu.be/zMlnMJH5u-g







Here is you a seriously WTF? moment. I'm sure some dog whistlers will attack the source but it is what it is. An enormous amount of Clinton campaign funding comes from Saudi, so go figure, she was grubbing for the cash.

Can you even imagine the uproar that would ensue if Trump's top aide had worked for this magazine? OMG!



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Hillary Clinton at the Dar al-Hekma college for women during a "town hall" meeting in the Red Sea port city of Jeddah in 2010. Abedin's mother, Dr. Saleha Mahmood Abedin, is second from right, standing next to Clinton. Photo: Getty Images

As secretary of state, women’s-rights champ Hillary Clinton not only spoke at a Saudi girls school run by her top aide Huma Abedin’s ­anti-feminist mother, but Clinton invited the elder Abedin to participate in a State Department event for “leading thinkers” on women’s issues.

This happened despite ­evidence at the time that Saleha M. Abedin had explored the religious merits of sexual submissiveness, child marriage, lashings and stonings for adulterous women, and even the ­circumcision of girls.

The elder Abedin, whose daughter helps run Clinton’s presidential campaign, did take a pro-gender-equality stance on at least one issue: Muslim women’s right to participate in violent jihad alongside men.

As The Post first reported, Huma’s mom edits the Journal of Muslim Minority ­Affairs, which has suggested that America had 9/11 coming to it, because of “sanctions” and “injustices” the US allegedly imposed on the Muslim world.

The journal also opposed women’s rights as un-Islamic, arguing that “ ‘empowerment’ of women does more harm than benefit.

But that’s not all.

In 1999, Saleha translated and edited a book titled “Women in Islam: A Discourse in Rights and Obligations,” published by the Institute of Muslim Minority Affairs. Written by her Saudi colleague Fatima Naseef, the book explains that the stoning and lashing of adulterers, the killing of apostates, sexual submissiveness and even female genital mutilation are all permissible practices ­under Sharia law.

“The wife should satisfy her husband’s desire for sexual intercourse,” the book states on Page 202, even if she is not in the mood. “She has no right to abstain except for a reasonable cause or legal prohibition.”

But getting in the mood may be difficult. The book says female genital mutilation is permissible: ­“Cir­cumcision for women is ­allowed.

Laws promoting feminist equality, moreover, are ineffectual, since “man-made laws have in fact enslaved women, submitting them to the cupidity and caprice of human beings. Islam is the only solution and the only escape.

And forget about working in a position of authority: “Her job would involve long hours of free mixing and social interaction with the opposite sex, which is forbidden in Islam,” the book says.

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Huma Abedin on the campaign trail with Hillary Clinton.Photo: Getty Images

“Moreover, women’s biological constitution is different from that of men. Women are fragile, emotional and sometimes unable to handle difficult and strenuous situations, it explained. Men are less emotional and show more perseverance.”

There is one exception to the sexual division of roles: “Women can also participate in fighting when jihad ­becomes an individual duty.”

On the back cover, Saleha says she is “pleased to launch” the book as part of a series on the study of women’s rights in Islam sponsored by the International Islamic Committee for Woman and Child (IICWC), for which she is listed as chairperson.

Founded by Huma’s mom, the Cairo-based IICWC has advocated for the repeal of Egypt’s Mubarak-era laws in favor of implementing Sharia law, which could allow female genital mutilation, child marriage and marital rape.

Saleha is paid by the Saudi government to advocate and spread Sharia in non-Muslim countries like America.

In 1995, less than three weeks before Clinton gave her famous women’s-rights speech in Beijing, Saleha headlined an unusual Washington conference organized by the Council on American-Islamic Relations to lobby against the UN platform drafted by Clinton and other feminists. Visibly angry, she argued it runs counter to Islam and was a “conspiracy” against Muslims.

Specifically, she called into question provisions in the platform that condemned domestic battery of women, apparently expressing sympathy for men who commit abuse.

Pakistan-born Saleha main­tained that men who serially beat women tend to be unemployed, making their abuse somehow more understandable. “They are victims of a different kind,” she claimed. “And they are simply taking [their frustrations] out on women.”

Despite all this, Huma Abedin in 2010 arranged for Clinton, then the secretary of state, to travel to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, to meet with her mother and speak at a girls school she founded and helps run as dean. Speaking to a roomful of girls, [b]Clinton said Americans have to stop stereotyping Saudi women as oppressed,[/b] before assuring the audience that not all American women go “around in a bikini bathing suit.”

While there, Clinton formed a partnership with Saleha’s Dar al-Hekma college called the US-Saudi Women’s Forum on Social Entrepreneurship, and prom­ised to reverse post-9/11 curbs on Saudi student visas to America.

‘The wife should satisfy her husband’s desire for sexual intercourse.’
- from a book translated and edited by Saleha Abedin

The next year, Clinton invited Saleha and the president of the Saudi school to Washington to participate in a State Department colloquium on women, as revealed by internal emails released in response to a lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch.

Clinton campaign spokesman Nick Merrill told the Post that while Huma Abedin was in fact listed as an editorial staffer of her mother’s radical journal from 1996 to 2008, she didn’t really do anything for the publication in her long tenure there.

Asked if Clinton regrets honoring the Islamist mother and bestowing ­legitimacy on her extreme views, Merrill had no comment.
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Huma Abedin worked at Muslim journal that opposed women’s rights

By Paul Sperry

August 21, 2016 | 6:30am

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Huma Abedin, longtime aide to former US Secretary of State and Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton Photo: Getty Images

Hillary Clinton’s top campaign aide, and the woman who might be the future White House chief of staff to the first female US president, for a decade edited a radical Muslim publication that opposed women’s rights and blamed the US for 9/11.

One of Clinton’s biggest accomplishments listed on her campaign website is her support for the UN women’s conference in Bejing in 1995, when she famously declared, “Women’s rights are human rights.” Her speech has emerged as a focal point of her campaign, featured prominently in last month’s Morgan Freeman-narrated convention video introducing her as the Democratic nominee.

However, soon after that “historic and transformational” 1995 event, as Clinton recently described it, her top aide Huma Abedin published articles in a Saudi journal taking Clinton’s feminist platform apart, piece by piece. At the time, Abedin was assistant editor of the Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs working under her mother, who remains editor-in-chief. She was also working in the White House as an intern for then-first lady Clinton.

Headlined “Women’s Rights Are Islamic Rights,” a 1996 article argues that single moms, working moms and gay couples with children should not be recognized as families. It also states that more revealing dress ushered in by women’s liberation “directly translates into unwanted results of sexual promiscuity and irresponsibility and indirectly promote violence against women.” In other words, sexually liberated women are just asking to be raped.

“A conjugal family established through a marriage contract between a man and a woman, and extended through procreation is the only definition of family a Muslim can accept,” the author, a Saudi official with the Muslim World League, asserted, while warning of “the dangers of alternative lifestyles.” (Abedin’s journal was founded and funded by the former head of the Muslim World League.)

“Pushing [mothers] out into the open labor market is a clear demonstration of a lack of respect of womanhood and motherhood,” it added.

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Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin arrive for a NATO foreign ministers family photo in front of the Brandenburg Gate in 2011.
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Hillary Clinton talks with aide Huma Abedin.
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Clinton and Abedin in Queens
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Hillary Clinton greets people. Huma Abedin is seen at center.
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Huma Abedin worked at Muslim journal that opposed women’s rights
August 21, 2016

In a separate January 1996 article, Abedin’s mother — who was the Muslim World League’s delegate to the UN conference — wrote that Clinton and other speakers were advancing a “very aggressive and radically feminist” agenda that was un-Islamic and wrong because it focused on empowering women.

“‘Empowerment’ of women does more harm than benefit the cause of women or their relations with men,” Saleha Mahmood Abedin maintained, while forcefully arguing in favor of Islamic laws that have been roundly criticized for oppressing women.

“By placing women in the ‘care and protection’ of men and by making women responsible for those under her charge,” she argued, “Islamic values generate a sense of compassion in human and family relations.”

“Among all systems of belief, Islam goes the farthest in restoring equality across gender,” she claimed. “Acknowledging the very central role women play in procreation, child-raising and homemaking, Islam places the economic responsibility of supporting the family primarily on the male members.”

She seemed to rationalize domestic abuse as a result of “the stress and frustrations that men encounter in their daily lives.” While denouncing such violence, she didn’t think it did much good to punish men for it.

‘Among all systems of belief, Islam goes the farthest in restoring equality across gender.’
- 1996 article authored by Saleha Mahmood Abedin, Huma's mother

She added in her 31-page treatise: “More men are victims of domestic violence than women . . . If we see the world through ‘men’s eyes’ we will find them suffering from many hardships and injustices.”

She opposed the UN conference widening the scope of the definition of the family to include [i]“gay and lesbian ‘families.’ ”[/i]

Huma Abedin does not apologize for her mother’s views. “My mother was traveling around the world to these international women’s conferences talking about women’s empowerment, and it was normal,” she said in a recent profile in Vogue.

Huma continued to work for her mother’s journal through 2008. She is listed as “assistant editor” on the masthead of the 2002 issue in which her mother suggested the US was doomed to be attacked on 9/11 because of “sanctions” it leveled against Iraq and other “injustices” allegedly heaped on the Muslim world. Here is an excerpt:

“The spiral of violence having continued unabated worldwide, and widely seen to be allowed to continue, was building up intense anger and hostility within the pressure cooker that was kept on a vigorous flame while the lid was weighted down with various kinds of injustices and sanctions . . . It was a time bomb that had to explode and explode it did on September 11, changing in its wake the life and times of the very community and the people it aimed to serve.”

Huma Abedin is Clinton’s longest-serving and, by all accounts, most loyal aide. The devout, Saudi-raised Muslim started working for her in the White House, then followed her to the Senate and later the State Department. She’s now helping run Clinton’s presidential campaign as vice chair and may end up back in the White House.

The contradictions are hard to reconcile. The campaign is not talking, despite repeated requests for interviews.

Until now, these articles which Abedin helped edit and publish have remained under wraps. Perhaps Clinton was unaware she and her mother took such opposing views.

But that’s hard to believe. Her closest adviser served as an editor for that same Saudi propaganda organ for a dozen years. The same one that in 1999 published a book, edited by her mother, that justifies the barbaric practice of female genital mutilation under Islamic law, while claiming “man-made laws have in fact enslaved women.”

And in 2010, Huma Abedin arranged for then-Secretary of State Clinton to speak alongside Abedin’s hijab-wearing mother at an all-girls college in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. According to a transcript of the speech, Clinton said Americans have to do a better job of getting past “the stereotypes and the mischaracterizations” of the oppressed Saudi woman. She also assured the audience of burqa-clad girls that not all American girls go “around in a bikini bathing suit.”

At no point in her long visit there, which included a question-and-answer session, did this so-called champion of women’s rights protest the human rights violations Saudi women suffer under the Shariah laws that Abedin’s mother actively promotes. Nothing about the laws barring women from driving or traveling anywhere without male “guardians.”

If fighting for women’s rights is one of Clinton’s greatest achievements, why has she retained as her closest adviser a woman who gave voice to harsh Islamist critiques of her Beijing platform?
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:31 pm

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Trump said he was open to nuking Europe because it’s a “big place”

Trump said that “you want to be unpredictable” with nuclear weapons

Trump reiterated that it was important to be “unpredictable” with nuclear weapons

Trump said he wasn’t that worried about more countries getting nukes since “it’s not like, gee whiz, nobody has them”

Trump had no idea what the “nuclear triad” was

Trump started talking about nuclear weapons in Pakistan and made no sense at all

Trump said he’d be OK with a nuclear arms race in Asia

The time he said it didn’t matter if Saudi Arabia acquired nuclear weapons because “it’s going to happen anyway”

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