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Re: Documents, history, theory and practice.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:31 pm

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But Pan will tell you all is a coincidence signifying nothing and CIA and Hollywood would never do that.


No, I will tell you it is your illogical and bias-ridden imagination running rampant, untethered from reality, plausibility, and common sense.


Can't stand the historical documentation of USG psy-ops in Hollywood and the extremely high correlation of decoy movies with scandal cover-ups?

.. smear adjectives smear framing smear diversions smear.....so much energy into attacking me personally.

Tell us about The Johnson Group, pan, who made the Paperclip Project?
I know you'd rather focus elsewhere but how about the film makers who got it onto the shelf in my video store?

What is their connection to the White House and Pentagon?
Who is Peter Schroeder? What does he do for a living?

Go do research, indeed.

How did the keyword "TEACUP RIDE" end up being used as synonymous with "happy-lucky-wedding" right after someone DIED on the TEACUP RIDE at Disney?

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=12263

This another one of your 'coincidences,' pan? Uh, right....
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Re: Documents, history, theory and practice.

Postby Jeff » Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:45 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:.. smear adjectives smear framing smear diversions smear.....


But Hugh, on this page alone you've smeared Stanley Kubrick and Orson Welles, perhaps the two least "Hollywood" of America's great directors, for - well, I'm not exactly sure what for. But the glibness with which you do what you do is frankly stunning.

I think you should spend more time watching some of these films than you do now distorting them to fit your theory.
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Postby professorpan » Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:49 pm

Well, my good manatee, I skewered and roasted your inane theory over an open flame here:

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/v ... =paperclip

Anyone can go check it out. But here's the post, fwiw:

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Time to hijack this thread with a dose of reality.

In 1998, assistant principal, history teacher, and football coach David Smith of Whitwell Middle School suggested to principal Linda M. Hooper that they could use the Holocaust as the basis for teaching tolerance in a voluntary afterschool program. Having difficulty in comprehending the massive scale of the Holocaust, students decided to collect 6,000,000 paper clips to represent the estimated 6,000,000 Jews killed between 1939 and 1945 under the authority of the Nazi government of Adolf Hitler.

At first the project went slowly, as it did not gain much publicity. Students created a website and sent out many letters to friends, family and total strangers. The project started snowballing after it received attention from Peter and Dagmar Schroeder, journalists who were born in Germany during World War II and who cover the White House for German newspapers. They published some articles, and a book "Das Büroklammer-Projekt" (The Paper Clip Project) in September 2000, promoting the project in Germany. The big break in the U.S. came with an article in the Washington Post on April 7, 2001.

After the article, almost every major media outlet seemed to pick up the story. Soon, millions of paper clips started to flood the school.


I see... someone from the Johnson Group, at the behest of the CIA, compromised a high school teacher, David Smith, in 1998. The MOCKINGBIRD puppeteers convinced him to use ordinary paper clips to represent Holocaust victims. Little did David Smith know that he was to become a shill in a very elaborate project... Operation PAPERCLIP'D.

That's right... the CIA/MIRAMAX/JOHNSON GROUP entity put in place a faux "grassroots" operation in Whitwell Middle School. They groomed this operation, conniving the teacher and the poor kids, into believing they were doing something positive to commemorate victims of the Nazis. Little did those pawns know they would ultimately be tools of fascists themselves...

Three years later, all is going as planned. MOCKINGBIRD controlled Washington Post "discovers" the project. Soon, the other little media birdies pick up on the story. The Weinstein Brothers, with a nudge from Langley, decide to finance CIA asset Joe Fab's short documentary and make it into a full-length feature.

Why?

So that the historical PROJECT PAPERCLIP is pushed deeper down into the collective dustbin. Anytime the phrase "paper clip" enters anyone's mind, they will (thanks to clever PSYOPS) think of the heartwarming story and not the historical integration of Nazis into the U.S. war machine.

Yes, the history of U.S./Nazi collusion has been effectively scrubbed from the record, and video store shelves are the proof. Any mass movement to purge the current fascists from power -- inflamed by growing public knowledge of PROJECT PAPERCLIP -- has been nipped in the bud.

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Again, you focus on the Johnson Group because you WANT TO BELIEVE that the similarity between "Paper Clips" (film) and the historical Project Paper Clip HAS to have conspiratorial relevance.

Again, simply picking up the phone and doing some actual research -- instead of your harebrained free-association games -- might have shown you that you are wrong.

But don't let actual research get in the way... that's not the way you operate.

Sheesh.

Sorry, Hugh, but repeating your discredited examples does not make them any more believable. It's just plain sad.
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Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:19 pm

Jeff wrote:I think you should spend more time watching some of these films than you do now distorting them to fit your theory.


+1 on thatall the way.

Hugh, I respect your intellect a great deal, but from what I know of you, you deprive yourself of even the briefest contact with fictional works, film and literary alike.

I think this is a mistake, and have frequently wondered if abstaining from such has an adverse effect that triggers a logic distortion. No, I'm NOT insinuating that you're 'crazy' or anything like that at all, I'm just saying that it appears to me that the consciousmind needs a downtime where..how can I express this properly..where the mind can RELAX in an enviornment where data input can be experienced without...consequence/stress?

On the other hand, I've privately knawed your keyword jacking theory a good bit for some time now, and have considered the possibility that while first acknowledging the reality of alphabet manipulation of media forms,but not to the extent that you propose, you may not have unearthed an enormous and ubiquitous public manipulation, but instead in an incomplete but very bright spark of intuition, have glimpsed what seems to appear as a disturbing, but poorly understood facet of our collective unconsciousness. I think that gravitation between names and objects occurs in what is mistakenly labeled as coincidence by most of us for lack of a greater insight into what the actual nature of the phenomenon really is. Understandably, I think with these gaps in full comprehension, a person such as yourself could percieve this as a guided, even mailignant, sentient purpose to data manifestation.

What if there wasn't anything behind that wheel, yet the occurance of what appears to be data 'keyjacking' remained? What if what you are percieving is totally real, but not what you think it is at all?

Heady stuff, I know, and sorry for the poor resolution of my argument, but I hope I stammered out enough to make at least some sense. FWIW, I've never doubted your sincerities about anything, and admire the depth and scope you're able to bring to your own discussions.

Even if they're wrong(and it's not my place to argue that either way).

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Postby professorpan » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:39 pm

On the other hand, I've privately knawed your keyword jacking theory a good bit for some time now, and have considered the possibility that while first acknowledging the reality of alphabet manipulation of media forms,but not to the extent that you propose, you may not have unearthed an enormous and ubiquitous public manipulation, but instead in an incomplete but very bright spark of intuition, have glimpsed what seems to appear as a disturbing, but poorly understood facet of our collective unconsciousness. I think that gravitation between names and objects occurs in what is mistakenly labeled as coincidence by most of us for lack of a greater insight into what the actual nature of the phenomenon really is. Understandably, I think with these gaps in full comprehension, a person such as yourself could percieve this as a guided, even mailignant, sentient purpose to data manifestation.


You're talking synchronicity, amigo. And I think you're on the money. Not with silly links between limpet mines and Don Knotts movies, but I do believe that observing and analyzing patterns suggests underlying connections. Just not *literal* ones. Peter Levenda does an excellent job writing about the odd synchronicities that are like ley lines beneath the parapolitical landscape.

But understanding synchronicity requires the ability to see symbolically without needing to literalize. The last time I tried to discuss synchronicity Hugh suggested I, and the guy I linked to (the teapot synchronicity guy), were CIA agents. He still brings up the teapot story as if it's some kind of CIA calling card I mistakenly dropped at his feet.

I do agree that Hugh has a remarkable intellect, a superb imagination, and a formidable ability to make conceptual connections. But he seems to be fiercely materialistic and literal to an extreme. And intolerant of criticism -- to put it lightly. And I can enjoy a back-and-forth with those I disagree with, but with Hugh, if you're attacking his ideas, then you're attacking him -- or you are one of THEM out to keep the TRUTH from the eyes of the populace.

And that's the pity.
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Postby orz » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:07 pm

well, I'm not exactly sure what for.

For being involved in film or media IN ANY WAY. Ever.

That's ALL that's required for a person, artwork or even a single word to be slandered into Hugh's 'theories'. There are no other criteria for eligability, since everything to ever happened can be connected to the CIA, or might as well be.

There's no way to differentiate between an accidental use of a Keyword and a deliberate one.

If i think of an example as a joke it is nonsense distraction and word-fog. If hugh thinks of an equally (usually more so) tenuous and laughable example is MUST be true because there's no way, once Hugh has thought of it, that it could ever cease to be a Keyword Hijack. He is never wrong. He can't be because there's no evidence that could ever demonstrate that something isn't KH.

Anything that looks like it might disprove KH (such as it being physically impossible time-wise), must be a CIA lie. However, absolutely no specific evidence is required to prove something is KH, beyond the fact that Hugh has, in the past, claimed that other things are.

I think that about covers it. Did I miss anything Hugh?

To summarise the theory of Keyword Hijacking once and for all:
"CAUSE STONE COLD SAYS SO!"
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Postby orz » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:09 pm

edit: curse of the cpu error

Stanley Kubrick did not work for the CIA
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Postby orz » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:17 pm

Brad Bird does not work for the CIA
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Postby orz » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:20 pm

..... Ok.... I'll give you Spielberg. ^___^
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Postby robert d reed » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:06 pm

HMW: The city of Austerlitz is the site of one of Napoleon's most famous victories.

You're saying that the word was chosen as the title of a film about Napoleon not for that reason, but instead because of some supposed homonymic similarity to the word "Auschwitz"?

The rod "Austerlitz" shares 6 of its 10 letters with the 9-letter word "Auschwitz", and zero phonemic correspondence in its syllables.)

I submit that the word "dimwits" is more phonemically similar.

D&D content: if you horndogs drool(ed) over the Succubus from Dungeons and Dragons, you would be transported into heart-throbbing priapism by the babes in the 1960s paperback book format illustrated comic strip version of Bram Stoker's Dracula.

Obligatory Distaff Gender Balance perspective: meanwhile, more than a few 13-year old girls, who had no time for boys their own age, were gushing in the schoolroom halls about Barnabas Collins... ( don't deny it! )

I dunno, man...maybe it's capitalism.
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'The Trial'

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:46 am

robert d reed wrote:You're saying that the word was chosen as the title of a film about Napoleon not for that reason, but instead because of some supposed homonymic similarity to the word "Auschwitz"?

The rod "Austerlitz" shares 6 of its 10 letters with the 9-letter word "Auschwitz", and zero phonemic correspondence in its syllables.)


I have no idea why 'Austerlitz' was made. And the word IS similar in sight and sound to 'Auschwitz.'

Where's your commentary on 'The Trial' and Welles being steered into it by the producers of 'Austerlitz?' Plus the perfect meme reversal of Auschwitz? Watch that movie and you'll never think any trial makes any sense.

And that's perfect in case those colleagues of Eichmann's like Otto von Bolschwing/ Mr. Buddwing that the CIA employed get mentioned. Ya know, the facts only officially confirmed with the Congressionally-mandated release on 2/4/05 of documents that was masked by 1/29/05 hoo-ha over Ward Churchill's 3 year-old "little Eichmanns" comment.

These event are consistent with standard counterpropaganda characteristics desigened to mitigate the effect of hostile information, just like limpet mine terrorism and 'The Incredible Mr. Limpet.'

So apparently it is your position, naysayers, that the USG does not use media assets to mitigate the effect of hostile information. THAT'S an unfounded position.

Where's your commentary on Disney's 6/25 Tea Cup ride death and the rapidly-following positive framing of the Tea Cup ride in the 7/4 AP nonsense article about luckiness?

How do you explain that? Yet another 'coincidence?' Puh-leeese.

Y'all are mighty selective in your criticism and there's NO admission or discussion of exactly how TV and movies are used by the USG and for what purposes.
Except from me.
Keyword hijacking is real and common. For decades.

Care to discuss the cultural cues on TV for recruiting?
Korea?
Vietnam?
Vietnam Syndrome?
Reagan Rambo-fication programming?

It isn't just army films. There are social values, gender behaviors, and regional cues, too. Like-
A huge portion of recruits come from the South.

Examples of psychological issues that media might be used to address:

Do you think that efforts would be made, for instance, to provide friendly images of Jews on TV if those Southern recruits were going to be deployed beside Israeli troops somewhere or even just told that they were defending this strategic ally in the oil region? Do you think that attitudes like this are anticipated and massaged for best results? Makes sense, doesn't it?

Perhaps the friendly TV images of gays are just to smooth out military culture which has a higher need for 'unit cohesion' and civilian consumers get less weighting on the issue.
I'm not claiming this is done, just throwing out examples of how psychological issues and military priorities can lead to propaganda programming campaigns.

Aren't we being conditioned to accept torture by the TV show '24?'

Aren't we being conditioned to accept profiling by the TV show 'The Profiler?'

Weren't we being conditioned for military tribunals by the TV show 'J.A.G.?'

Weren't we conditioned to accept pre-emptive war/surveillance/detention by all those dumb time-travel movies and TV shows in the 1990s?
Seems like a post-Cold War PNAC propaganda campaign to me.

Anybody think about this or research it? Too many frikkin' UFO threads...

http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/cda06-09.cfm
In 2003, 43.82 percent of military recruits listed South­ern hometowns. Southern representation among recruits remained consistent with 43.49 percent in 2004 and 43.8 percent in 2005. (See Table 8.)


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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:10 am

Where's your commentary on Disney's 6/25 Tea Cup ride death and the positive framing in the 7/4 AP nonsense article about luckiness?


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof to convince others hugh, so while that case is a remarkable synchronicity, you would need to make further connections to make that case stand up.

It is a remarkable synchronicity, and given the way pr works I wouldn't be surprised if it is a classic case of misdirection, but you need to provide more. Who wrote the piece, how are they connected to the Disney organisation, and even if thats shown, how do you show that the author didn't act off their own bat, possibly out of some case of misguided loyalty?

Watch that movie and you'll never think any trial makes any sense.


Have you ever read The Trial? Thats the whole point of the story.

As to the "they" that pressured Welles to make that film, who exactly is thay "they"?

Your argument would stand on better ground with names, and their connections to USG and Intelligence services.

But there does seem to be a trend on US television especially to reinforce certain stereotypes and POVs. Especially in cop shows and mlitary cop shows. I dunno abut keywords associated with them tho. I don't watch those shows.
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:29 am

I read that article, about lucky 7's. Given its written by someone in Atlantic City (Wayne Parry), I thought its far more likely to be a clumsy attempt at promoting the cities casinos. Sure enough thats what the article seemed to promote the most.

Come to Atlantic City and spend your hard earned cash on rigged games. You could get lucky.

Patriot Act Game Pokes Fun at Government

Mar 18 08:14 PM US/Eastern
By WAYNE PARRY
Associated Press Writer

HAMILTON, N.J. (AP) - In this send-up of "Monopoly," players don't pass "Go" and they don't go directly to jail—they go to Guantanamo Bay.
Instead of losing cash for landing on certain squares, they lose civil liberties. And the "Mr. Monopoly" character at the center of the board is replaced by a scowling former Attorney General John Ashcroft.

"Patriot Act: The Home Version" pokes fun at "the historic abuse of governmental powers" by the recently renewed anti-terrorism law, according to its creator's Web site.

But while it may be fun, creator Michael Kabbash, a graphic artist and Arab civil rights advocate, is serious about how he feels the law has curtailed Americans' freedom.

The object of the game is not to amass the most money or real estate, but to be the last player to retain civil liberties.

"I've had people complain to me that when they play, nobody wins. They say `We're all in Guantanamo and nobody has any civil liberties left,'" he said. "I'm like `Yeah, that's the point.'"


http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8GEA4PG0&show_article=1

Another of Wayne Parry's articles.

Heres a brief bio

Wayne Parry named Atlantic City correspondent for The Associated Press

NEW YORK -- Wayne Parry, a reporter for The Associated Press in Newark, has been promoted to correspondent for the news cooperative in Atlantic City.

Parry will be the AP's primary reporter covering Atlantic City, southeast New Jersey and the Jersey shore.

The appointment was announced Feb. 5 by New Jersey Chief of Bureau Richard Brack. Parry succeeds John Curran, who was named the AP's correspondent in Montpelier, Vt.

Parry is an award-winning reporter with 23 years of full-time journalism experience in New Jersey. He joined the AP in Trenton in 1998 after working at four daily newspapers in the state: The Daily Journal of Elizabeth, The News Tribune of Woodbridge, the Asbury Park Press of Neptune, and The Star-Ledger of Newark.

Parry was assigned to the AP's Newark bureau in 2001, where he covered the state's response to the Sept. 11 attacks. He has received numerous awards for his post-Sept. 11 coverage of the Muslim community in New Jersey and across the nation.

A native of Elizabeth and lifelong New Jersey resident, Parry graduated from Columbia University in 1984 with a bachelor of arts degree in English.

Contact: Jack Stokes, AP Corporate Communications, 212.621.1720


http://www.ap.org/pages/about/pressreleases/pr_020907d.html

And another

Parry
Published on: Jun 19, 2006
Wayne Parry is a reporter in the Newark, NJ bureau of The Associated Press, where his beat includes coverage of Islam and Muslims in New Jersey and across the nation. His articles have been published or broadcast in media outlets around the world. He has won more than 60 journalism awards in a 20-year career, and most recently attended the April 2003 Knight Center seminar "Islam and America" at the University of Maryland. He is currently trying to relearn Arabic phrases he picked up shortly after September 11 while wandering around Arab-American neighborhoods knocking on doors with a notebook and pen, including "I am NOT and FBI agent."


http://programs.ssrc.org/intmigration/outreach/nyti/parry/

That last website sure looks "interesting".

Here's some of his articles:

http://www.pelicanfile.com/reporter.cfm?ReporterID=1039

So far I can't find anything to connect him to Disneyland, and i'm not gonna try any more.

Hugh I think there might be something in your idea, but it needs more rigour and alot more work on your part to really test it out. I think alot of hat Pan is saying is actually trying to push you in that direction, not, as you seem to think, an attempt to distract and discredit your writings cos they have hit the nail on the head.

But anyway here's a little story that hapened to me that kind of relates to what you are saying.

Many years ago in the early 90s I bumped into a mate from work, he had recently left work, and I hadn't seen him since. We scored some weed and went to his place to have a sesh (ie a session). I got rather wasted and was disappointed that he put on Neighbours, an aussie soap that some readers of RI might be familiar with (tho hopefully not too familiar with).

There was one character, an unsympathetic one, and at the time in general society there was a move to educate the public about certain dangers of heart disease. So this particular exact topic came on the show, and the unsympathetic character was resistant to following the advice of everyone, and getting some particular check up, whatever the specific heart disease initiative at the time was.

All the other characters were paying him out, (there's enough behaviur modification there) anbd putting pressure on him to check his health, but that wasn't what tripped me out. I felt like every ime he was on screen and talking there was a really nasty "vibe" coming from the tv. It was really powerful although I put it down to the weed. It seemed to be balanced by these beautiful feel good vibes that came whenever the other characters were talking about the health check, and the switch between the two, ie from the good while positive talk about the health check was on, to the nasty, while the unsympathetic character was quite jarring and unpleasant. I thought it was some Skinnerian mind control coming out of the TV. That was the first and last time I ever watched neighbours.

WTF was that - too much mull, something else that I only noticed cos I was wasted? Who knows. I have never really noticed that phenomonen since, but I don't watch the sort of shows I would associate it with (usually soaps like neighbours or east enders, ones everyday people could relate too).

I wouldn't even begin to know how to test for it if it was a real phenomonen, not just my stoned way of inerpreting the writers attempts to manipulate the viewers.

I think there are definitely attempts to control opinion and thinking in tv, and possibly even on the level I experienced or via your keyword hijacking concept, but many of your examples just don't seem to fit. They don't ring true. Equating Strangelove with Hogan's Heros for example, what funny Nazi's? Those people are insane and in charge of nuclear weapons, and have fascist tendencies. Thats what i got from that movie, the complete opposite of any of the meme reversal you refer to.

Most of what you refer to i have never seen or even heard of, so I couldn't comment, but thge thing that always gets me with keyword hijacking is that associations form in all directions. Hearing the Paperclip story (about the Holocaust memorial) and then hearing about operation paperclip ... wouldn't that have the reverse effect, making people more likely to take notice of the name and details? Oh here's one thing that refers to Paperclip and nazis, oh here's another. the connection is reinforced not diluted, Imo anyway.
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Dr. Horowitz vs Steven Seagal, CIA plot-hijacking.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:05 am

Dr. Len Horowitz has been writing about US bioweapon history and nasty things coming out of Fort Detrick and Plum Island.

Seems a CIA agent led Horowitz along while the Dr.'s work was stolen for a movie starring Steven Seagal.

Lots of hijacking here and all in the name of fictionalizing dark realities to 'mitigate the effect of hostile information.' Classic counterpropaganda offensive against what Dr. Horowitz exposes about the USG.

http://www.drlenhorowitz.com/Hollywood_and_Horowitz.htm

Suffice it to say, Steven Seagal's movie "The Patriot, " based on the above and evidence below, best reflects a conpiracy to conduct economic espionage and, at the same time, propagate disinformation in newsworthy areas critical to U.S. national security.
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Mr. Reid first approached Dr. Horowitz in the last half of 1998, around the time Mr. Seagal was finished shooting and editing "The Patriot," to allegedly represent his book, Emerging Viruses: AIDS & Ebola--Nature, Accident or Intentional?, as an agent might, and offer it to Mr. Seagal to acquire for a movie. For this "agent" service, Dr. Horowitz pledged verbally to pay Mr. Reid a standard agent's fee upon the signing of a contract by Mr. Seagal. During the next few months, and by the end of 1998, Dr. Horowitz and Mr. Reid had several additional discussions, including at least two more lengthy meetings over dinner witnessed by third parties whose affidavits are available. During one of these dinner meetings, attended by one of Mr. Seagal's screenwriters, the prospects of selling Mr. Seagal on the idea of producing a film about BW and doctor Horowitz's related works was discussed. At a subsequent meeting between Mr. Reid and Dr. Horowitz, Mr. Reid stated that he had discussed the idea with Mr. Seagal, and had desired to deliver to Mr. Seagal a fictionalized treatment of Dr. Horowitz's intellectual properties and copyrighted materials. Mr. Reid suggested to Dr. Horowitz that the two men collaborate on this Seagal proposal and fiction screenplay. Dr. Horowitz gratefully accepted Mr. Reid's suggestion. Unfortunately, it is now clear that The Film had already been shot, was likely being edited, and shortly thereafter released.

It is not clear why Mr. Seagal, according to Mr. Reid, was interested in doing a fiction film related to Dr. Horowitz's publications, when at that very time he had just completed "The Patriot" which serially misappropriated key elements of Dr. Horowitz's copyrighted works and intellectual properties.

Although Dr. Horowitz respected Mr. Reid's counsel, and their previous business relationship, in retrospect with reference to the above question, and Mr. Reid's CIA background, concerns might be raised as to whether Mr. Reid had been knowingly, or unwittingly, relaying Dr. Horowitz's intellectual property during the course of discussions with Mr. Seagal as early as 1996. Also, unfortunately, given the implications to American intelligence and counterintelligence raised by Dr. Horowitz's properties, Mr. Reid's affiliations with the CIA, said to have been terminated following the assassination of his close friend, Barry Seal, allegedly by CIA contracted hit men; and his subsequent flight to Mexican assylum, might be investigated in the context of this complaint. It is possible that Mr. Reid, again knowingly or unwittingly, has remained in the service of the CIA as a source of intelligence concerning the patriot movement, militia groups, and threats posed by these elements including, and especially, those most meticulously studied and effectively communicated by Dr. Horowitz.

In fact what would be surprising is if the CIA was NOT observing Dr. Horowitz, Mr. Reid, and others like Mr. Trochman, and not impacting the public's perception and reception of their publications and pronouncements.

Moreover, if Mr. Reid was either a willing or duped provider of Dr. Horowitz's misappropriated intellectual property to American intelligence and counterintelligence agencies tied to Hollywood, then, under the Economic Espionage Act of 1996, the Federal Bureau of Investigation might have cause to investigate this matter under federal crime statutes. Then Mr. Seagal, and possibly Mr. Reid, would not only be involved in a civil complaint filed by Dr. Horowitz, but possibly face criminal charges following a possible federal investigation.
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Postby orz » Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:11 am

Plus the perfect meme reversal of Auschwitz?

One man's "perfect meme reversal" is another man's creative and thought provoking use of analogy.

(Oh and one of those two men is an insane internet bore. Guess which!? Hint: it's not Orson Welles.)

Watch that movie and you'll never think any trial makes any sense.

KAFKA WORKED FOR THE CIA!!!! :shock: Nice going, that's the straw that broke this camel's back:

You are a nut, and worse, an ignorant nut.

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