The Tasering Will Continue Until You All Submit!

[nomo]

On the heels of the incident of a student being tasered at a John Kerry event, there's this round-up from "One Man's Blog":


Tasers were developed as a non-lethal option to bring dangerous situations under control. But law enforcement officials are now using them with wild abandon in cases where simple diplomacy or a little hard work would otherwise suffice.

In the past I've written about the police tasering of a UCLA student for refusing to show his school ID, as well as the time a cop tasered an 11 year old at school because the officer on hand apparently couldn't physically restrain him?!? (Gee, what would they have done 10 years ago?)

Police have also used Tasers against peaceful protesters (NPR audio about tasering protesters), a pregnant woman (8 months) and an elderly man who called 911 to get medical attention for his diabetic seizure.

So who's next? Maybe you.

Now, police are being given the green light all over the world to completely disable people whenever they feel like it, and I'm certain we are going to see a whole lot more abuse as a result.

• People will be tasered long before it's a necessity. Think about it, if you were a cop why even bother to break a sweat when you know you could probably control a situation physically? All you have to do is taser the hell out of someone and they'll do anything you say.
  
• People will be intimidated and threatened by the use of tasers. Most people are not that scared of police officers because they feel reasonably sure they won't be shot (like with a gun). But now you can't be sure that even arguing with a cop won't result in a tasering.
  
• Women will be tasered and raped while they are conscious but unable to react. If you were a rapist you could use one of these to rape anyone you wanted. This guy did, and it happened to this homeless woman and two women in D.C.
  
• Men will be tasered and then beaten without being able to defend themselves. Want proof? Here is a group of "private security guards" hired by the Israeli government using stun guns against unarmed Rabbis.
  
• More people will die as a direct result of taser use. In the US nearly 200 people have already died after being shot by a taser gun, including a mentally ill homeless woman who was stunned with a Taser while on the ground in handcuffs.
  

From: http://onemansblog.com/2007/09/17/the-t ... ll-submit/

(Lots of videos of the use and abuse of Tasers at link)

[theeKultleeder]

Is this really all that shocking? CNN has been playing the video over and over again. Maybe to chill us all into passive submission? To relate to live politicians as if they are images on teevee?

In the video, do you see what a good time the oinkers are having?

[Pele'sDaughter]

Kerry responds.

ABC News' Rick Klein Reports: Sen. John Kerry on Tuesday comdemned the arrest of a University of Florida student at one of his speeches, saying that he was engaged in a "good healthy discussion" with 21-year-old Andrew Meyer when he was Tasered and taken into custody.

"In 37 years of public appearances, through wars, protests and highly emotional events, I have never had a dialogue end this way," Kerry said in a statement. "I believe I could have handled the situation without interruption, but I do not know what warnings or other exchanges transpired between the young man and the police prior to his barging to the front of the line and their intervention. I asked the police to allow me to answer the question and was in the process of responding when he was taken into custody."

"I was not aware that a taser was used until after I left the building," he continued. "I hope that neither the student nor any of the police were injured. I regret enormously that a good healthy discussion was interrupted."

For politicians, hecklers come with the territory. But the arrest and detention of Meyer at Kerry speech on Monday stood out in at least two respects: Police acted aggressively in trying to silence Meyer, and the entire incident was captures on video -- making it an immediate Internet and TV sensation.

Videos show Meyer being pulled away from the microphone after as he sought to ask Kerry, D-Mass., a rambling series of questions that touch on allegations of voting improprieties in the 2004 election, possible impeachment of President Bush, Iran, and Kerry’s membership in Yale's secret Skull and Bones society.

Kerry sought to answer at least some of Meyer’s questions even as Meyer was dragged off by campus police -- and after police used a Taser to try to subdue him as he was being arrested.

"Help me! Help!" Meyer says. "What are you doing! Get off of me! Don't Taser me, bro! Oh my god! Oh my god!"

Watch a clip from ABC's "Good Morning America" here.

Meyer was jailed overnight on charges of disturbing the peace and resisting an officer. As word spread of his arrest, his friends used his Website as a clearinghouse for supporters to learn about the incident, and to organize a rally on his behalf on the University of Florida campus at noon ET today.

The University of Florida has scheduled a news conference to discuss the incident at 3 pm ET today.

University spokesman Steve Orlando defended the officers' actions in an interview with the Associated Press, but said an internal investigation would be conducted to make sure they acted appropriately.

"He apparently asked several questions -- he went on for quite awhile -- then he was asked to stop," Orlando said of Meyer. "He had used his allotted time. His microphone was cut off, then he became upset."

Typically, hecklers and aggressive questioners are handled informally at political events. Shouts of "boo" or political chants drown out someone who dominates a forum, and peer pressure normally is enough to regain order.

But sometimes, law-enforcement officials take a more aggressive tack.

During the 2004 campaign, protesters were occasionally ushered off of the premises by Secret Service officers assigned to protect President Bush. In one incident, in West Virginia in July 2004, two protesters at a Bush event say they were arrested for refusing to cover up their anti-Bush T-shirts.

In another, post-campaign incident that drew wide publicity, two people were ejected from a presidential event in March 2005 in Denver. In a lawsuit, they claim they were kicked out even before the president arrived because they drove up in a car with a bumper sticker that said, "No more blood for oil."

In this year's presidential race, security has been a major concern early on. One candidate, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., gets Secret Service protection because of her status as a former first lady, while another, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., has been assigned protection because of concerns over his safety.

Kerry, who was the Democrats’ nominee in 2004, is no longer assigned Secret Service protection, and does not bring his own security to events. That left University of Florida police in charge of security -- to notable results on Monday.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar ... ally-.html

[Seamus OBlimey]

Don't forget, some folks get off on that kinda thing.

[pepsified thinker]

Seamus, I watched that video for more than a minute or two, thinking

"Weird, how is tasering gonna fit into this school-kids-dancing situation?"

...then I read the title again.

Times like that I realize I'm just not at ALL in touch with pop stuff.

[11:11]

How does a room full of Democrats not get out of their seats and jump those thugs disgued as cops? And that asswipe Kerry goes on talking while someone is being tortured? Of course, he didn't notice the guy screaming. Oh, that's right, Democrats are establishment kiss asses just like Republicans.

Good videos here: http://rawstory.com/news/2007/tudent_Ta ... _0917.html

[chlamor]

How does a room full of Democrats not get out of their seats and jump those thugs disgued as cops? And that asswipe Kerry goes on talking while someone is being tortured? Of course, he didn't notice the guy screaming. Oh, that's right, Democrats are establishment kiss asses just like Republicans.

Good videos here: http://rawstory.com/news/2007/tudent_Ta ... _0917.html

Except the Democrats are worse as they portray themselves as other than a subsidiary branch of the same evil. Here take a look at a few comments from that bastion of Democratic Authoritarianism aka Democratic Underground:

"The guy was a total ass and tried to take over the event
He needed to be removed and he was. End of story."


"What if you find out the guy is a freeper and paid by his friends to pull this stunt? What if you find out he jumped the que and pushed aside other students? What if he wasn't really tasered but faked that he was being tasered - he never stopped talking.
Why were the police already watching him and standing right behind him? It had clearly drawn police attention before he got to the mic. To me it seemed like he went there to get attention and arrested.
When the police first tried to stop him the students cheered the police.
The guy was an ass and acted like a 5 year old."


"How long should they have allowed his over wrought play acting to go on?"


"I would never act like that guy unless it was my goal to be arrested.
And Mark - don't tell me what to defend and not defend. If you feel the need to be an Authoritarian there is another site way better suited to your personality type."


"It wasn't a rant forum. As yourself why the people who were there first hand applauded when he was taken away. They saw everything in context."


"Just the fact that he brought up the Skull and Bones bullshit makes me wonder about his thought processes. That's just stupid conspiracy bullshit in my eyes."


"He was a disrupter. The kind we tombstone around here. "


"As a Virginian, may I also remind you that we had a tragic event happen on a campus -- the Virginia Tech shootings. And people blamed the police in that for not doing enough; and they blamed the university. So it could have gone the other way, where this guy DID get violent and then the police would have been blamed for not doing enough."


"I think the situation was handled properly.. It is not OK to totally disrupt an event in the name of free speech."

You can go over there and take a peek at the face of friendly fascists. In fact not so friendly. Little difference getting tazed by a guy in Khakis or a guy in Camos.

[theeKultleeder]

Yeah. It's difficult to analyze the "one party state masquerading as a two party state" without falling back into the "voting sucks" argument. It does look like there is a lesser of two evils - apparently the neocon faction of the repug party is positioning itself to control the vote. We have "black boxes" and now the Judiciary is stacked.

Here is something I wrote a little while ago about some of the stuff mentioned on this thread.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

The cops over reacted but I'm not surprised. Once they sense something uncontrollable their instinct to subdue and control kicks in like a mouse trap snapping shut.

I heard an audio clip and the student's voice probably freaked out the cops who are supposed to keep their antennae peeled for aggressive types.

The student was really loud and insistent after his mike was turned off. I think he was just charged up on adrenaline as is normal when getting the mike at a public event but his manner had gone into almost a ranting mode.

The clip didn't play more than a few seconds before his mike was turned off. I think a female cop approached him immediately and his voice stayed loud and constant echoing off the walls which probably made the cop think he needed to be squelched no matter what.

I'll bet a room full of college kids makes the cops edgy, too, like firemen in a kindling factory.

But this is perfect Chill Theater for the upcoming (s)election season.
I just hope that candidates are not allowed to escape the topic of 9/11.

on edit: I just heard the clip again and the cops were on him the instant his mike was shut off. Total Gestapo play by the cops and unwarranted.

[11:11]

The Raw Story link has the whole thing, beginning to end. The guy was a little worked up, but so what? The sleaze otherwise known as campus police (too stupid to even be regular cops) were hovering around him.

If I see this happen to anyone, I'm jumping in and yelling something incendiary. The crowd should have kicked those thugs asses. Think I'm kidding? Better start standing up to these thugs, NOW.

edit: and I'm a 53 year old woman. Jesus Christ, people are such whimps and sheep.

[11:11]

How does a room full of Democrats not get out of their seats and jump those thugs disgued as cops? And that asswipe Kerry goes on talking while someone is being tortured? Of course, he didn't notice the guy screaming. Oh, that's right, Democrats are establishment kiss asses just like Republicans.

Good videos here: http://rawstory.com/news/2007/tudent_Ta ... _0917.html

Except the Democrats are worse as they portray themselves as other than a subsidiary branch of the same evil. Here take a look at a few comments from that bastion of Democratic Authoritarianism aka Democratic Underground:

"The guy was a total ass and tried to take over the event
He needed to be removed and he was. End of story."


"What if you find out the guy is a freeper and paid by his friends to pull this stunt? What if you find out he jumped the que and pushed aside other students? What if he wasn't really tasered but faked that he was being tasered - he never stopped talking.
Why were the police already watching him and standing right behind him? It had clearly drawn police attention before he got to the mic. To me it seemed like he went there to get attention and arrested.
When the police first tried to stop him the students cheered the police.
The guy was an ass and acted like a 5 year old."


"How long should they have allowed his over wrought play acting to go on?"


"I would never act like that guy unless it was my goal to be arrested.
And Mark - don't tell me what to defend and not defend. If you feel the need to be an Authoritarian there is another site way better suited to your personality type."


"It wasn't a rant forum. As yourself why the people who were there first hand applauded when he was taken away. They saw everything in context."


"Just the fact that he brought up the Skull and Bones bullshit makes me wonder about his thought processes. That's just stupid conspiracy bullshit in my eyes."


"He was a disrupter. The kind we tombstone around here. "


"As a Virginian, may I also remind you that we had a tragic event happen on a campus -- the Virginia Tech shootings. And people blamed the police in that for not doing enough; and they blamed the university. So it could have gone the other way, where this guy DID get violent and then the police would have been blamed for not doing enough."


"I think the situation was handled properly.. It is not OK to totally disrupt an event in the name of free speech."

You can go over there and take a peek at the face of friendly fascists. In fact not so friendly. Little difference getting tazed by a guy in Khakis or a guy in Camos.

Leftist Blogs Defend Police Brutality In Student Tazering
Partisan bickering obscures heart of the issue as Fox News, MSNBC set up phony debate by making Kerry's behavior focus of story, not oppressive actions of thug cops

http://infowars.com/articles/ps/tasers_ ... sering.htm

Hey, and who loves using electricity on people? The mind control cult. FUCK THEM.

[ninakat]

CYNTHIA MCKINNEY RANTS ON THE TASING OF A FLORIDA STUDENT

That University of Florida student asked one of the central questions that the American people deserve to have answered.

Not only residents of the United States are being subjected to illegitimate authority due to two stolen elections in 2000 and again in 2004. The entire global community is suffering because of it. When John Kerry, 2004 Democratic Nominee for President had the opportunity to tell us and the world why he didn't fight for his own victory that the voters of this country gave him, John Kerry proceeded to talk while the student who asked the question was violently tasered by the police.

That University of Florida student asked one of the central questions that the American people deserve to have answered.

Kerry didn't even fight for the victory that the U.S. voters had given him. He remained mute as the Libertarian and Green Parties demanded to know what happened in Ohio. And took their meager resources to investigate election theft by Republicans in Ohio. And all of the revelations that have come out since then can be placed at the feet of these two Parties, and not the Democratic Party that would have benefited. It was the Libertarian and Green Parties, not the Democrats, that demanded that the will of the voters be respected.

A student gets the taser for asking a simple question.

But what's more frightening is the reaction of those in the audience who sat through the screams of the student being tasered, listening to Kerry who obviously became a man bereft of his senses.

The student was harassed even as he attempted to ask his question, referencing Greg Palast's work, "Armed Madhouse." Pointing out the huge disfranchisement of black voters that marked both of Bush's "wins," he asked Kerry, "How could you concede the election on the day?"

He asks why Kerry is not in favor of impeachment, then the students applaud when the police attack him at the microphone. From the video, it appears that he is literally picked up by the police and carried to the back of the room where he is put on the floor, handcuffed, tasered, carried out, and in the background one can hear Kerry talking--not trying to get the police officers to stop attacking the student--but blathering on, reminiscent of George Bush when the towers were hit.

No police officer should be in the business of denying Constitutional rights to anyone; I am particularly chagrined when it appears that a black police officer participated in this attack on an innocent student.

What is happening to us???? How much more will the people accept?? I was outraged as early as 2000 when Florida was stolen and the Democrats said nothing!!!! Now, innocent students get tasered just for asking questions.

What kind of US Senator do we have who can't or won't answer a question about his own election that affects all of us???

We must channel our efforts into the kind of movement that has been successful in the past in our country. A movement that unites us all, regardless of the labels usually used to divide us. We the people must run for office and vote the current, non-representative crew out of office. We must become the government that is supposed to represent us. It is time for all of us to become involved now. There is room for everyone in this movement. I shudder to think what our country will become if we fail to act.

link

[anothershamus]

How does a room full of Democrats not get out of their seats and jump those thugs disgued as cops? And that asswipe Kerry goes on talking while someone is being tortured? Of course, he didn't notice the guy screaming. Oh, that's right, Democrats are establishment kiss asses just like Republicans.

We have been programmed by our reptilian overlords and we must submit and not interfere with the punishment of others.

[11:11]

How does a room full of Democrats not get out of their seats and jump those thugs disgued as cops? And that asswipe Kerry goes on talking while someone is being tortured? Of course, he didn't notice the guy screaming. Oh, that's right, Democrats are establishment kiss asses just like Republicans.

We have been programmed by our reptilian overlords and we must submit and not interfere with the punishment of others.

That's about what it seems like. I'm completely disgusted. Shit, some guy hassled my boyfriend once, and I hauled off and slugged the guy! I didn't know where that came from, other than I detest bullies. Now, we have the brownshirts getting away with this shit, while able bodied people do NOTHING. Half of them men, no less! Where are the real mean and women?

I hope to GOD that anyone who ever sees something like this come down has the courage to step up to the plate.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

CYNTHIA MCKINNEY RANTS ON THE TASING OF A FLORIDA STUDENT
.....
link

No, former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney didn't "rant." That's how someone named Carolyn Baker put it on her own webpage.

(Thanks for the heads up on CM's comments, ninakat. It's just bit of a hostile source.)

From Cynthia McKinney's own webpage-
http://www.allthingscynthiamckinney.com/node/103

Another Outrage: Aren't Students Supposed to Ask Questions???


* Writings of Cynthia McKinney

Submitted by admin on Tue, 09/18/2007 - 20:03.

Not only residents of the United States are being subjected to illegitimate authority due to two stolen elections in 2000 and again in 2004. The entire global community is suffering because of it. When John Kerry, 2004 Democratic Nominee for President had the opportunity to tell us and the world why he didn't fight for his own victory that the voters of this country gave him, John Kerry proceeded to talk while the student who asked the question was violently tasered by the police.

(YouTube clip screen inserted in article)

That University of Florida student asked one of the central questions that the American people deserve to have answered.

Kerry didn't even fight for the victory that the U.S. voters had given him. He remained mute as the Libertarian and Green Parties demanded to know what happened in Ohio. And took their meager resources to investigate election theft by Republicans in Ohio. And all of the revelations that have come out since then can be placed at the feet of these two Parties, and not the Democratic Party that would have benefited. It was the Libertarian and Green Parties, not the Democrats, that demanded that the will of the voters be respected.

A student gets the taser for asking a simple question.

But what's more frightening is the reaction of those in the audience who sat through the screams of the student being tasered, listening to Kerry who obviously became a man bereft of his senses.

The student was harassed even as he attempted to ask his question, referencing Greg Palast's work, "Armed Madhouse." Pointing out the huge disfranchisement of black voters that marked both of Bush's "wins," he asked Kerry, "How could you concede the election on the day?"

He asks why Kerry is not in favor of impeachment, then the students applaud when the police attack him at the microphone. From the video, it appears that he is literally picked up by the police and carried to the back of the room where he is put on the floor, handcuffed, tasered, carried out, and in the background one can hear Kerry talking--not trying to get the police officers to stop attacking the student--but blathering on, reminiscent of George Bush when the towers were hit.

No police officer should be in the business of denying Constitutional rights to anyone; I am particularly chagrined when it appears that a black police officer participated in this attack on an innocent student.

What is happening to us???? How much more will the people accept?? I was outraged as early as 2000 when Florida was stolen and the Democrats said nothing!!!! Now, innocent students get tasered just for asking questions.

What kind of US Senator do we have who can't or won't answer a question about his own election that affects all of us???

We must channel our efforts into the kind of movement that has been successful in the past in our country. A movement that unites us all, regardless of the labels usually used to divide us. We the people must run for office and vote the current, non-representative crew out of office. We must become the government that is supposed to represent us. It is time for all of us to become involved now. There is room for everyone in this movement. I shudder to think what our country will become if we fail to act.

If you haven't seen it yet, here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaiWCS10C5s