Israel quite obviously deals with a large number of hardline Islamic fundamentalist terrorist attacks on a weekly (or, at best, monthly) basis:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... ctims.html
The webpage linked above lists over 350 separate fatal incidents resulting in well over 1000 Israeli fatalities since September, 2000.
As documented in CAMERA’s Jan. 3, 2007 analysis (“B’Tselem’s Annual Casualty Figures Questioned”), there are two major problems with B’Tselem’s identification of Palestinians as “not taking part in hostilities at the time they were killed.”
First, in many cases, B'Tselem identified individuals as not being involved in hostilities at the time they were killed when there was credible information to the contrary. These include, for instance, Muhammad Mahmoud Rajab a-Jarjawi, 19, killed Nov. 23 in Beit Lahiya. B’Tselem ignored the Palestinian Ma’an News Agency report that said Jarjawi was one of “a group of armed Palestinian resistance men who were confronting the invading Israeli tanks.” CAMERA’s two-month study (November and December 2006) turned up a number of similar cases. B’Tselem ignored AFP reports that Sa’id Salem Suleiman Hajaj, 20, and Tah’ir Hassan ‘Abed al-Masri, 16, killed Nov. 18, were both armed, according to the Israeli army. B’Tselem also ignored incriminating material in AFP and AP reports about Muhammad Salamah Hussein Hamidan, killed Nov. 16, and Wahib Musieh Nayef a-Dik, killed Dec. 14.
And, in a particularly misleading case, B’Tselem said that Muhammad (‘Eid) Amin Mahmoud Ramaheh “did not participate in hostilities when killed,” and at the same time noted “He was armed.” (According to an Israeli army press release, Ramaheh “and one of his men opened fire [at soldiers at a roadblock]. The soldiers returned fire, killing the two . . .”) B’Tselem was similarly contradictory about 14-year-old Jamil Abd al-Karim Jamil al-Jabaji, killed Dec. 3. According to B’Tselem, he “did not participate in hostilities,” but was “killed while throwing stones at soldiers.”
Second, among those identified as not being engaged in hostilities at the time of death were terrorists regularly involved in planning and carrying out violent attacks. For instance, B’Tselem covered up the fact that the aforementioned Ramaheh was a Tanzim leader and that Sa’id Hajaj was a member of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine. The same goes for Al Aksa Martyrs Brigade members ‘Alaa a-Din Jamil Khamaiseh and Salim Usef Mahoud Sa’id, both killed Nov. 8.
Did you happen to notice my point, ATK?
I catered my response specifically to Doodad in order to make a point about al Qaeda "terrorists" vs. actual "terrorists" using Doodad's own Zionist terms and Zionist approved sources.
...to attribute truth as the sole domain of a biased entity like B'Tselam is absurd.
AlicetheKurious wrote:stickdog99 said:Did you happen to notice my point, ATK?
Yeah, I did, and I agreed with it, but I couldn't let that phrase go without responding.I catered my response specifically to Doodad in order to make a point about al Qaeda "terrorists" vs. actual "terrorists" using Doodad's own Zionist terms and Zionist approved sources.
Jeez. Dare I ask how you "cater" your response when you're communicating with White supremacists? Anti-semites? Misogynists?
Here's some friendly advice: don't let someone else put words in your mouth, unless you believe in those words and are prepared to back them up.
Doodad said:...to attribute truth as the sole domain of a biased entity like B'Tselam is absurd.
Can you name another agency with the distinguished record of B'Tselem, with the resources to independently gather and verify facts in the field, for accurate information about what is happening in the Occupied Territories?
The zionist occupation army has a long history of suppressing and distorting facts, intimidating and harassing witnesses, even shooting reporters who film or witness their abuses.
As for the AP, while they generally use local Palestinian cameramen and reporters, their editorial offices are in Jerusalem. Final decisions about what to publish are made abroad, at their headquarters in New York. If B'Tselem's account conflicts with that of the Associated Press, there's no question about which is more reliable:
The Associated Press:
... AP, according to its website, is the world’s oldest and largest news organization. It is the behemoth of news reporting, providing what its editors determine is the news to a billion people each day. Through its feeds to thousands of newspapers, radio and television stations, AP is a major determinant in what Americans read, hear and see – and what they don’t.
What they don’t is profoundly important. I investigated one such omission when I was in the Palestinian Territories last year working on a documentary with my colleague (and daughter), who was filming our interviews.
On Oct. 17, 2004 Israeli military forces invaded Balata, a dense, poverty-stricken community deep in Palestine’s West Bank (Israel frequently invades this area and others). According to witnesses, the vehicles stayed for about twenty minutes, the military asserting its power over the Palestinian population. The witnesses state that there was no Palestinian resistance – no “clash,” no “crossfire.” At one point, after most of the vehicles had finally driven away, an Israeli soldier stuck his gun out of his armored vehicle, aimed at a pre-pubescent boy nearby, and pulled the trigger.
We went to the hospital and interviewed the boy, Ahmad, his doctors, family, and others. Ahmad had bandages around his lower abdomen, where surgeons had operated on his bladder. He said he was afraid of Israeli soldiers, and pulled up his pants leg to show where he had been shot previously.
In the hospital there was a second boy, this one with a shattered femur; and a third boy, this one in critical condition with a bullet hole in his lung. A fourth boy, not a patient, was visiting a friend. He showed us a scarred lip and missing teeth from when Israeli soldiers had shot him in the mouth.
This was not an unusual situation. When I had visited Palestinian hospitals on a previous trip, I had seen many such victims; some with worse injuries. Yet, very few Americans know this is going on. AP’s actions in regard to Ahmad’s shooting may explain why.
We discovered that an AP cameraman had filmed the entire incident. This cameraman had then followed what apparently is the usual routine. He sent his video – an extremely valuable commodity, since it contained documentary evidence of a war crime – to the AP control bureau for the region. This bureau is in Israel.
What happened next is unfathomable. Did AP broadcast it? No. Did AP place the video in safe-keeping, available for an investigation of this crime? No.
According to its cameraman, AP erased it. ...
water wrote:When will liberals and people start to wonder "could al Qaeda do such attacks without doors intentionally being left open"?
when they see it in a made for tv movie
Occult Means Hidden wrote:Can someone explain to me how,
-As the article explained, "a production company" linked to Al-Qaeda could go unidentified?
-That with the CIA's and the NSA's computing power that is at the very least, 10 years ahead of the market PC methods, are we not able to identify...
- the hosts of these "Jihadist Militant Websites" that are the source of all this information?
- the IP address location or ID despite scrambling attempts by all posters?
- The domain identification of registrars, considering especially since that source largely resides in the United States?
You illegally DL songs from Kazaa in scrambled bittorrent programs with a static IP and Arista Records can find you to sue you, but you use a PC to host a bit of "Jihadi" commands, and the most powerful computers that are at least 10 years ahead market, with the most talented codebreakers on Earth in the CIA and the NSA, are unable to root out the source of Al-Qaeda's ONLY method of communication?
A case study alone on the MSM's reporting of Al-Qaeda's intentions relying solely on "Islamist Websites" is damning enough.
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