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This is kind of neat. I've been researching the so-called Thelemite who, according to GM Kelly, have gotten stuck in the tunnels of Set, fallen into the Abyss, are, basically, Evil, welcoming the legions of Choronzon, etc. The so-called "Black Brothers" that Crowley warned about (and all adepts and magicians). One Kenneth Grant's writings seem really prime material for 9-11 cultic activities, as I am following the Setian link in 9-11 (Set=Sothis=Sirius, rising of which is New Year's Day of Egyptian calendar, etc.; Set as one of the Nine, and so forth). Fun stuff, abounding in 11s, 93s, 77s, and so forth. Apparently Grant equates Ob with 9, and Od with 11 (which Kelly claims is wrong, but I'm more interested in the ones advocating doing/thinking/being evil as the path of true will). So if you Google "Ob Od", turns out it stands for "open burning/open detonation", www.cpeo.org/techtree/ttdescript/detburn.htm

Which is kind of neat because it reads like various theories about the destruction of the Twin Towers. Check it out! Note that I AM in no way suggesting...

(But I do think the perps for 9-11 were lodged deep inside the US military)

Interestingly, Organizational Development and "OB" do some rather interesting psychological stuff, including what appears to be some type of brainwashing. Don't have time to go into this research right now, but perhaps some know more.

But I do think the perps for 9-11 were lodged deep inside the US military

So do I sort of but not likely in the same way. Traditionally it is spies who aid the enemy. We already know of several who have been caught aiding the enemy so it's not that unlikely that the info needed to pull off 911 could have been relayed by such spies. Lord knows how many may exist. And when I say enemy, perhaps I should say enemies.

And when I say enemy, perhaps I should say enemies.

Who are the enemies?

streeb wrote:

And when I say enemy, perhaps I should say enemies.

Who are the enemies?

Well, obviously the extremist Islamists; but, also, the traditional ones committed to the downfall of capitalism, "democracy", American power, etc. This was a political statement more than anything and the possibilities for alliances are endless.

Doodad wrote:

But I do think the perps for 9-11 were lodged deep inside the US military

So do I sort of but not likely in the same way. Traditionally it is spies who aid the enemy. We already know of several who have been caught aiding the enemy so it's not that unlikely that the info needed to pull off 911 could have been relayed by such spies. Lord knows how many may exist. And when I say enemy, perhaps I should say enemies.

Well at least we agree on something. Of course the enemy were sat well within the Pentagon.

So, Doody, who are the enemy here ?

Go on. You can do it. Give us some real clues

Who are the "insiders" WRT 9/11 ?

On Edit.

How many of the people reading this, have read Orwells 1984 ?

geogeo wrote:This is kind of neat. I've been researching the so-called Thelemite who, according to GM Kelly, have gotten stuck in the tunnels of Set, fallen into the Abyss, are, basically, Evil, welcoming the legions of Choronzon, etc. The so-called "Black Brothers" that Crowley warned about (and all adepts and magicians). One Kenneth Grant's writings seem really prime material for 9-11 cultic activities, as I am following the Setian link in 9-11 (Set=Sothis=Sirius, rising of which is New Year's Day of Egyptian calendar, etc.; Set as one of the Nine, and so forth). Fun stuff, abounding in 11s, 93s, 77s, and so forth. Apparently Grant equates Ob with 9, and Od with 11 (which Kelly claims is wrong, but I'm more interested in the ones advocating doing/thinking/being evil as the path of true will). So if you Google "Ob Od", turns out it stands for "open burning/open detonation", www.cpeo.org/techtree/ttdescript/detburn.htm

Which is kind of neat because it reads like various theories about the destruction of the Twin Towers. Check it out! Note that I AM in no way suggesting...

(But I do think the perps for 9-11 were lodged deep inside the US military)

Interestingly, Organizational Development and "OB" do some rather interesting psychological stuff, including what appears to be some type of brainwashing. Don't have time to go into this research right now, but perhaps some know more.

Aww, now you are looking into the final .9% of the 10% of 9/11 which is not readily found online

Its said 90% of the information needed to find the REAL truth and arteries of 9/11 is online via mainstream sources, intelligent research, etc

The other 10% is much deeper

And I believe the last 1% or less is not just the "woo", but the truly "woo-woo"(and I aint just talking mothman seen in Somerset county weeks before Flight 93 went down)

Btw, Crowley does also talk about 175, not just 11, 77, and 93.
175:

In the book of the law, CLXXV 175 is
"Liber Astarte vel Liber Berylli"—On uniting oneself to a Deity

175 is the third number of Venus.

So there you have it.

United under a deity. Possibly the statue of liberty, aka the 7 horned Isis/Ishtar/whatever you want to call it. The watchful governence of an eternal flame where Di and JFK also befell, with the 3000 ripped soul ritual in the destruction of the Solomon pillars completing in 2012 when the Freedom Tower octogonal obelisk rises with mighty aplumb.

The destruction of Jachim and Boaz, using 11 and 175 and untraceable explosives packed into computer floors in Fuji Bank and Marsh and Mclenlan.

the striking of the middle of a 77 foot pentagram with Flight 77.

and the ill fated Thelemic "93" being swatted down by ever so brave passengers on its way to the Capital for the coup de'tat.

Its interesting to note...

that after Bush reads "my pet goat", he's flown to Offut AFB in Nebraska after the White House claims high level penetration of the government by unknown forces using the code "Angel is Next" is found.

Offut AFB is where witnesses point to Temple of Set founder high level army pentagon man Michael Aquino performed SRA mind control experiments.

Maybe, ol multiple "Mr Temporary" needed to get some last minute triggering?

9/11 is deep and ugly, and I wouldnt be surprised if the underlying aspects were done meticulously to ritualistic design based on esoteric rites and numbers.

Whats 9/11/2001? Beginning of the Egyptian Coptic Calendar, and some claiming as far back as 1976 it was Christ's true birthday. It also happens to be the "911" emergency date.

Doodad wrote:

streeb wrote:

And when I say enemy, perhaps I should say enemies.

Who are the enemies?

Well, obviously the extremist Islamists; but, also, the traditional ones committed to the downfall of capitalism, "democracy", American power, etc. This was a political statement more than anything and the possibilities for alliances are endless.

Do I need to get out exhaustive article after exhaustive article proving Salafi Wahabist Jihadists have always been the tools of the Saudi/European new world order global elite?

The very same "Great Satan West" they claim to fight against is precisely who uses them.

the traditional ones committed to the downfall of capitalism, "democracy", American power, etc.

Sorry, "traditional ones"? Traditional who?

geogeo wrote:This is kind of neat. I've been researching the so-called Thelemite who, according to GM Kelly, have gotten stuck in the tunnels of Set, fallen into the Abyss, are, basically, Evil, welcoming the legions of Choronzon, etc. The so-called "Black Brothers" that Crowley warned about (and all adepts and magicians). One Kenneth Grant's writings seem really prime material for 9-11 cultic activities, as I am following the Setian link in 9-11 (Set=Sothis=Sirius, rising of which is New Year's Day of Egyptian calendar, etc.; Set as one of the Nine, and so forth). Fun stuff, abounding in 11s, 93s, 77s, and so forth. Apparently Grant equates Ob with 9, and Od with 11 (which Kelly claims is wrong, but I'm more interested in the ones advocating doing/thinking/being evil as the path of true will). So if you Google "Ob Od", turns out it stands for "open burning/open detonation", www.cpeo.org/techtree/ttdescript/detburn.htm

Which is kind of neat because it reads like various theories about the destruction of the Twin Towers. Check it out! Note that I AM in no way suggesting...

(But I do think the perps for 9-11 were lodged deep inside the US military)

Interestingly, Organizational Development and "OB" do some rather interesting psychological stuff, including what appears to be some type of brainwashing. Don't have time to go into this research right now, but perhaps some know more.

Rereading what you wrote...

are you suggesting there was a magical alchemical property to the destruction of the twin towers, that in a sick globalist inside joke pointed to Western Hermetic Qabbalist interpretations of 9 and 11?

In a strange way, some believe that sort of thing is the basis for Oppenheimer and the atom bomb project

streeb wrote:

the traditional ones committed to the downfall of capitalism, "democracy", American power, etc.

Sorry, "traditional ones"? Traditional who?

Anyone who is not a friend.

well, yes, 911 is laden with insider jokes, but I guess military humor is like military justice and music. I mean, the perps left all sorts of clues for those of us with eyes wide open, but at the same time it was of course a massive brainwashing ritual. It achieved great results on various planes both exoteric and esoteric, if you like.

The holy grail of this for me is finding a clear precedent in some sort of suggested or proposed magic ritual, and I have little doubt it is buried somewhere online, or at least there is something more suggestive. I've combed GD, Dee, Agrippa, and so forth, and gotten a better idea of what I'm looking for, but frankly, there are too many aeons floating around out there --in addition to being in the Age of Aquarius, the New Age, we are 93 (oops) years into the Aeon of the Child, of Horus; the second Beast, Michael Aquino, told us he ushered in the Aeon of Set in when was it, 1975? And the we have this parallel Aeon of Maat? Talk about Byzantine complexity--but it's in the Kenneth Grant stuff, the Typhonic OTO space alien/Great White Brotherhood on Sirius/Set/Sothis, that I've begun to really hit paydirt.

Crowley really ripped something wide open, but perhaps Blavatsky realized she had already done so when she ushered in the mysticism of the East and found very quickly that Kali and her ilk came along to (I'm saying this metaphorically). She knew how dangerous this stuff was, and warned repeatedly against it, all the way back to going against the US Spiritualists, who hated her for it.

But in any case, I think one of the strongest cases for occultic influence inthe 20th century, besides the Nazis, would be the atomic bomb itself. But then, hell, I just recently found out that Edison was heavily into this stuff--or at least, Theosophy--talk about 'light-bringer'!

BTW I thought I'd note that the Wikipedia article on Nazi occultism is (predictably?) awful, debunking any meaningful connection.

excuse my late ramblings.

Sorry, I meant 103 years into the Aeon of Horus, I guess. 1904, right?

geogeo wrote:well, yes, 911 is laden with insider jokes, but I guess military humor is like military justice and music. I mean, the perps left all sorts of clues for those of us with eyes wide open, but at the same time it was of course a massive brainwashing ritual. It achieved great results on various planes both exoteric and esoteric, if you like.

The holy grail of this for me is finding a clear precedent in some sort of suggested or proposed magic ritual, and I have little doubt it is buried somewhere online, or at least there is something more suggestive. I've combed GD, Dee, Agrippa, and so forth, and gotten a better idea of what I'm looking for, but frankly, there are too many aeons floating around out there --in addition to being in the Age of Aquarius, the New Age, we are 93 (oops) years into the Aeon of the Child, of Horus; the second Beast, Michael Aquino, told us he ushered in the Aeon of Set in when was it, 1975? And the we have this parallel Aeon of Maat? Talk about Byzantine complexity--but it's in the Kenneth Grant stuff, the Typhonic OTO space alien/Great White Brotherhood on Sirius/Set/Sothis, that I've begun to really hit paydirt.

Crowley really ripped something wide open, but perhaps Blavatsky realized she had already done so when she ushered in the mysticism of the East and found very quickly that Kali and her ilk came along to (I'm saying this metaphorically). She knew how dangerous this stuff was, and warned repeatedly against it, all the way back to going against the US Spiritualists, who hated her for it.

But in any case, I think one of the strongest cases for occultic influence inthe 20th century, besides the Nazis, would be the atomic bomb itself. But then, hell, I just recently found out that Edison was heavily into this stuff--or at least, Theosophy--talk about 'light-bringer'!

BTW I thought I'd note that the Wikipedia article on Nazi occultism is (predictably?) awful, debunking any meaningful connection.

excuse my late ramblings.

My God. Are you suggesting that the blueprint for 9/11 lies not merely within the material nation state security world, but a magick rite of long ago?

I buy it. Who is this Kenneth Grant, and what is the ob od 9 11 stuff?

You mention Aquino, and Bush was taken to Offut AFB on 9/11.

It's very possible that the backbone of 9/11 was a spirtual one, meant to usher in a new age or rip(symbolicly?) some sort of time rip

Is there some crazy Babylon working type ritual involving the destriction of the Boaz and Jachim Solomon pilars, the strike of a pentagram middle, and the numbers 11, 77, 93 and 175 under the watchful eye of an Ishtar like goddess? Wouldnt shock me

You mentioned that alien angle, or notion of Great White Brotherhood...why does that remind me of the Nine?

Notice how the occult circles you talk about go hand in hand with the Nazis own area of interest?

We know Hitler was trying to set up his SS Muslim Brotherhood of Wahabists in Yugoslavia and Egypt.

And we know Egyptian Mohammed Atta was an adept of the Bayer(Nazi) corporation's Carl Duizberg society elite US/German exchange program
and then became liasons with CIA-nazi drug running agent Wolfgang Bohringer.

The atom bomb seems steeped in esotercism...

The Manhattan project according to even Manhattan Project historian's own words took was birthed at Bohemian Grove
http://www.mphpa.org/classic/HISTORY/H-06c2.htm

Oppenheimer had a strong interest in the esoteric, many say Qabbalist magick and numerical code was an impetus for the bomb.

Oppenheimer dedicated the Trinity test on the 33rd degree paralel to John Dee.

Seems to me, that like 9/11, the atomic bomb drop was another massive trauma megaritual.

And how many Nazi rocket and other scientists were brought to America?
And then theres Jack Parsons...oh man, too much to think about

You guys watch too many Jake Kotze videos.



But seriously what changes have you noticed in he world since 911, beside the obvious ones (ie police state, etc etc).

IE esoteric changes.

And also consider SRA

bioathanoi from another thread:

That's not to say that perpetrators don't have methods to manipulate and coerce survivors, and that this can involve exploiting survivors dissociative states - but those methods are still primarily emotional, not "mechanical".

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=13899

slimmouse wrote: How many of the people reading this, have read Orwells 1984 ?

More than have read his "Politics and the English Language", I fear.