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A handful of times in my life, a family member has been affected by an act of terror. In no case did it fit the 'anti-terror' meme of the islamo-facist non-american suicidal maniac, and in no case were the victims any less dead than victims of fundamentalist islam inspired acts of terror.

One of the dead in the Murrah bombing was a good friend of my brother and my then fiancee. My mom worked at UC opening mail for 3-4 guys on the Unabomber's mailing list (talk about junk mail!). And a few hours after i posted this topic:

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewt ... ght=raiser

my mom told me my brother had worked closely with the father of the Nebraska mall shooter for over ten years.

In all of these instances a white male US citizen perpetrated the crime. However, all of the 'fixes' proposed by our government for terrorist acts address the 'crazed foreign muslim' threat. So, on top of all of the constitutional, practical, and human rights objections i have to these 'fixes', there remains the fact that the terror by which i've personally been affected would not be stopped. You hear people talking about how demented a society must be for its young to commit suicidal acts of terror and its assumed you mean the middle east, not a mall in the midwest, so we never question our role in fomenting terror on our own soil.

And so to the point of this topic: Do any of you have stories of being touched by acts of terror, and how did that affect your outlook on society and deep politics?

Yes luna,

This changed everything for me. I spent several months in a state of shock and outrage and confusion.

A very good friend of mine had collected food donations to take up to Jonesy and his family at the Sundancer grounds. When she arrived the RCMP had just set up the roadblock and she was turned away. We spent the next weeks watching the garbage television coverage as the RCMP vilified Jonesy and the activists camped with him, On Sept 11 1995 the RCMP attacked the camp with APC's and fired 77000 rounds at them, so many in fact, that full grown trees were cut down.

Fortunately, I now know that Rule of Law is a joke and that The State will act with excessive violence towards those who would challenge it's authority, even if it's just a small group of mostly Shuswap activists and their family members.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQH9MAPdqws

oh Susserer, during a sundance? Thanks for talking about this even though its painful. more people could stand to know about the opression directed towards indians to this day. i'm not very familiar with this incident, i basically just knew that it happened, i can't imagine the shock to you being there. thank you again.


what is it with september eleventh?

My experience with terrorism is in a different vein. A good friend was charged with terrorism for shooting off fireworks. Granted, he was lighting bottle rockets from a moving car and aiming them at another car. Not a good idea, but that's not quite equivalent to bombing an American embassy. Eventually the charges were dropped, likely because his father was an ex cop with friends on the force.

If I had needed anything else to convince me our "justice system" was a bunch of bullshit, that would have done the trick. This was prior to 9/11/01, BTW.

lunarose wrote:oh Susserer, during a sundance?

The actual event occurred after the Sundance, but there was ongoing harassment and threats made by Lyle James' ranch hands throughout that spring and summer. Percy Rosette and his family became very afraid after the Sundance when everyone had left and two ranch hands came and threatened to hang themselves some "Red Niggers," meaning Percy and his family. It was shortly after that that Percy called Jonesy to come back with help.

i'm not very familiar with this incident, i basically just knew that it happened, i can't imagine the shock to you being there. thank you again.

I wasn't one of the ones that were in the camp. Only a very small number of people have any idea about what really happened there.

what is it with september eleventh?

I always felt it was supposed to be some kind of human sacrifice event, and that was before I read RI or knew anything of para-politics. There are other reasons to think that besides the date.

No one was killed BTW.

No one was killed BTW.

They killed a dog. That dog was someone to somebody.

This one deserves its own thread.

Annie Aronburg