ESP debunked?

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so-called remote viewing.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:51 am

Pentagon and CIA have black budgets, loot their own budgets, loot departments like H.U.D. for many many billions, and have many billions of drug dollars, too.

Fake 'sciences' and 'weapons' are peddled to mislead other governments to waste their time and money and the American public to keep them believing in mysticism and magic.

Like "remote viewing." Sounds alot like...satellite surveillance. And a good way to get people as human test subjects for other things. Like detecting electrical brain activity and efforts to beam images or sounds into the skull with various technologies. Same tech to "read" brainwaves and radiate into them.

Remember how after 9/11 NASA was offering brainwave reading security tech to Northwest Airlines? Might have been real. Or partly. Or soon to be. Who knows?

Congress denied funding for a new $900 billion satellite system in 1999, I think, but the Pentagon went ahead and bought it anyway.

Total impunity. That's 'our' military dictatorship.

Don't buy into the "remote viewing" cover story.
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Re: so-called remote viewing.

Postby IanEye » Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:17 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Like "remote viewing." Sounds alot like...satellite surveillance. And a good way to get people as human test subjects for other things. Like detecting electrical brain activity and efforts to beam images or sounds into the skull with various technologies. Same tech to "read" brainwaves and radiate into them.


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Re: ESP debunked?

Postby FourthBase » Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:44 am

I'm still getting nowhere with trying to get a decent answer from Sam about the several issues with the study.
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Re: ESP debunked?

Postby MinM » Sun May 21, 2017 10:42 am

@Slate

A scientist used vintage porn to prove ESP is real. Then things got interesting: http://slate.me/2pYVQhQ
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Pretty good read about a novel approach to ESP study plus whenever you can bump a thread w/IanEye & Hugh you gotta do it.
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Re: ESP debunked?

Postby peartreed » Sun May 21, 2017 5:51 pm

Much like standard scientific research methodology has proven problematic in measuring and assessing psi phenomena, which involves emotion, anecdotal evidence has been unreliable by virtue of its vulnerability to the same human subjectivity. Neither science nor anthropology can fully verify its existence.

Like most of our beliefs, our world view is a result of our experiences with it.

My own awareness of extrasensory perception began in childhood while vacationing at our summer cottage in Ontario wilderness, where my grandfather, a Spiritualist Medium and Minister, had established a camp for his congregation along the Muskoka River. Back then, in the fifties, telephone and electrical lines and running water utilities were rare luxuries in rural forests, and our campground was cut off. We hauled and drank spring water from buckets, built our own outhouses and relied on each other for spoken and written communication and most “outside” news.

One day my Mom had taken the family car to go shopping in Bracebridge, the closest town several miles away. Shortly after she left my Dad called out to us, his four children, to meet him at our boat dock on the river. We all piled into the old rowboat and he took us upriver to an uninhabited area where he suddenly pulled us to shore and had us follow him up a forested slope, through uncleared, tangled underbrush. After bushwacking our way through wild terrain we eventually came upon a road. There, struggling with a car jack and a flat tire, was Mom – very happy to see us.

Dad just somehow “knew” Mom needed help and he “knew” where she was. Mom, in turn, had called for Dad the only way she had at hand – using her mind – in the same way they had always been linked since I knew them. To us, it was normal.

While I could recall and cite several other examples of apparently extrasensory perception within my extended family that I thought of as routine at the time, my adult rationale recollects the operative element was likely need – an absence of alternatives, an urgency, and a requirement for instant transmission. The other factor was familiarity, an intuitive comfort and confidence in the connection.

Our family lineage was linked by general acceptance of the paranormal as real. We hadn’t yet been conditioned to be cynical, skeptical and suspicious of psychic phenomena, and we were raised and surrounded by believers and practitioners.

The primitive world, including all our ancestors, once relied on survival instincts. Our intuitive impressions and feelings were less cluttered, confused and diluted by sensory distractions and alternative modes of messaging. Our “gut” kept us alive.

To me, that critical “mind” perception surpasses the five senses processed by the brain and extends a sixth sense into the unexplored realm of spirit, soul and nonphysical survival. We just haven’t activated it to its full potential because our reliance upon alternative inputs has rendered it mostly dormant and undetected.
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Re: ESP debunked?

Postby Elvis » Sun May 21, 2017 7:01 pm

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Re: ESP debunked?

Postby peartreed » Sun May 21, 2017 10:20 pm

Thanks, for sharing that podcast Elvis.

Dr. Robert Lanza’s theory of biocentrism provides a paradigm that acknowledges that individual consciousness determines reality, and that such a multi-layered or superimposed universe of self-generated perceptions enables our consciousness to survive mortal death, existing outside the traditional limits of belief in the more commonly accepted but mistaken space/time continuum.

I think he is tuned in too.
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