Northern Illinois U. Gunman 'Had An Interest In Satanism'

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Northern Illinois U. Gunman 'Had An Interest In Satanism'

Postby M F Abernathy » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:59 am

The Columbus Dispatch (Ohio)
February 19, 2008 Tuesday - Home Final Edition
Another tragedy; Those closest to disturbed people are in the best position to heed warning signs
SECTION: EDITORIAL & COMMENT; Pg. 10A
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Once again, the nation is horrified by multiple slayings in a college classroom by a deeply disturbed person.

On Thursday, Stephen Kazmierczak, 27, walked into a lecture hall about 10 minutes before the end of a geology class at Northern Illinois University, shot the professor and then fired his weapons at the 150 students in the audience. In the end, five students were dead and 16 others were wounded. Then he killed himself.

Throughout all the seemingly random public shootings over the past few years, from the Virginia Tech massacre in April to the killings in a Von Maur department store in Omaha, Neb., on Dec. 5, a few themes are evident.

States should redouble their efforts to add to the federal database that is used to check the mental-health backgrounds of gun buyers, so that that people who shouldn't have guns don't get them.

Illinois is one of 32 states that participate in the database. Perhaps Kazmierczak didn't qualify for the list somehow. If his past didn't set off any warning bells, the criteria should be re-evaluated.

In high school, Kazmierczak showed an interest in satanism and the white-power movement. His behavior alarmed his parents, who took him to specialists who gave him mood-stabilizing drugs. After graduation, he spent almost a year in a Chicago psychiatric treatment center. In 2001 he went into the Army but soon was discharged for an unspecified reason.

But beyond background checks and mental evaluations, there should be another line of defense: those who are closest to such disturbed people. People who are growing increasingly troubled often provide danger signals that should not be overlooked. Dramatic mood and behavior changes are warning signs that friends, coworkers and family must take seriously.

Kazmierczak was a good student when he attended NIU for his undergraduate degree in sociology, and people close to him say he seemed relatively untroubled. But his friends and live-in girlfriend say he had stopped taking an antidepressant medication for a few weeks and had been acting differently. Police described his behavior as "erratic."

Kazmierczak bought four guns between August and early February, according to the federal Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. His girlfriend knew this.

Interpreting someone's mental state and the likelihood of danger is very difficult. At any given time in this country, thousands of alienated, severely depressed people aren't acting normally but never would do any harm. The vast majority of mentally ill people are not dangerous to themselves or anyone else.

This creates the classic tension between liberty and security. The country can't round up people on the chance that they might be in the grip of personal disturbances that are pushing them toward violence.

But when the warning signs include depression or alienation, behavior changes and acquisition of weapons, those who know about them should not hesitate to call in the authorities for guidance and, perhaps, life-saving intervention.
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Postby 8bitagent » Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:46 pm

The modern school shooting that kicked off the 2 year wave that ended with Columbine, was a part of a Satanic cult:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_High ... g#Satanism

Woodham later told authorities he was posessed, and that their cult was in contact with non human entities.

I remember Alex Jones had a whole program on why many feel Columbine was a staged operation, and indeed in many of these mass shootings theres some interesting coinkydinks.

Like the Omaha mall shooter going on a rampage at a mall just hours after Homeland Security officials were there warning of terrorism, just as Bush was taking off a few miles away.

Now we find that the same gun dealer selling weapons to VT Tech guy was selling to this kid

One has to wonder, if its "something in the air", SSRI, or keywords being triggered on tv that sets these mass killers off.
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Postby elfismiles » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:28 pm

Latest from Fintan Dunne ...


Motive Found in NIU Campus Shooting
http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4001

by Fintan Dunne with Research by Kathy McMahon
21st February, 2008

Who is Vincent Valentine? If you know then you are on the first step to
solving the motivation of Valentine's Day mass killer, Steve
Kazmierczak
--who killed five students at Northern Illinois University, Cole Hall
auditorium on 14th February, 2008.

A BreakForNews.com investigation has uncovered the roots of
Kazmierczak's psychosis. We discovered from Internet messages which
he exchanged in the mid-1990's that Kazmierczak became obsessed as a
teenager with the computer game 'Final Fantasy VII' -even as he was
slipping deeper into juvenile mental illness.

Our analysis shows that the motivation, timing and methodology of his
killing spree were all deeply intertwined with dark themes, characters
and storylines from the fantasy game.

The themes echoed his own psychological dynamics; the central character
bore a remarkable physical likeness to him; and elements of the story
happened to closely correspond with events in his life.

We show that Steve Kazmierczak alone did not carry out the attack.
There was another presence with him as he committed mass murder on
that day: a psychotic game character who had seized effective control
of
a possessed Kazmierczak and bent him to it's will.

This is the story of how a bizarre Jekyll and Hyde scenario
came to be played out in the modern electronic era.

EXCLUSIVE - STORY PART 1 & 2

Kazmierczak & Sephiroth:
An Angry Angel's
Final Fantasy

http://breakfornews.com/kazmierczak.htm

Caution: May be distressing to those bereaved by events at NIU.

MORE PARTS TO FOLLOW

Discuss in the BreakForNews Forum
http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4001

Regards:
Fintan & Kathy - 22nd February, 2008
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Postby KeenInsight » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:45 pm

Oh jeez... More video game evidence for people gone postal. I've played Final Fantasy 7 (In fact it's my favorite FF in the series). I guess that means I have potential to go nuts!

The people that supposedly "research" and write this crap always draw dodgy conclusions about something they know little or nothing about.

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Postby OP ED » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:14 am

Final Fantasy?
What a load of nonsense. So we should suspect the other twenty million kids who played this game too?

"interest in satanism"....source for this?

I wish they could define "satanism" too. I know kids from High School raised by Satanists who never shot anyone. This is all very sensationalist to me. Makes it difficult to find anything tangible.
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Postby mentalgongfu2 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:15 am

I feel dirty just for taking the time to read the first few paragraphs. I did manage to skim the rest, but I still feel icky. Seems like the author is really reaching, bringing in lyrics from an old NiN song, the photo comparison, fragments of emails and pretending to know what went on in someone else's head based on what goes on in your own.
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:32 am

Fintan Dunne's BreakForNews website is a 'there is no global warming' website.
He (admin) promotes this denial as do most of the board users.

Take that as an indication of what the website really is.

That said, there is plenty of indication that 'violence rehearsal' entertainment, TV-movies-video games, can set off people who are unstable and affect larger groups in more generalized ways. Those narratives designed to have staying power in the mind can do just that.

Studies going back to the early 1930s showed how much movies influence children's attitudes.

There is an almost Big Tobacco-like minimization of this significance due to how hard it is to make a direct causative link between visual stimulus and social reaction. The effects are more generalized and thus easier to perpetuate without being stopped by the very specific application of a lawsuit.

Plus both the lucrative economics and the USG's use of these media for national security purposes (gender role-modeling, normalizing militarism, violence de-sensitization, weapon lust) have left the scores of confirming studies to fall in the woods without making much public sound.

Germany was consumed by the rise of the Nazis using visual symbols and propaganda and now uses the law to suppress Nazi symbols as if they were terrorist weapons. Which they are.
But Americans are so media-saturated that the very idea that images are like drugs and can be deadly is not taken seriously by the public. Just by the USG's media specialists deploying psy-ops.

Periodically a lawsuit hits the news linking record lyrics and a suicide or the Bible-thumping fundies claiming a cartoon character is trying to turn their kid gay and the whole topic is dismissed out of hand, safely hidden behind the smirk-factor.

But those image media affect the brain just like drugs.
Because the brain is highly light activated and uses images for survival.

Tobacco has a national security purpose of distracting and anaesthetizing people into predictable behaviors , a function TV-movies-video games also serve because the masses are offered many ways to self-medicate and not get roused over injustices all the while pouring their money into the self-medication industries.

BUT anybody who BUYS GUNS should be scrutinized by those who are close to them, family, friends, loved ones, etc. This isn't just a government database function.
Looking out for our own is the only way to know how someone is handling the stresses of life.

And a world of war and torture and ecodisaster is an apocalyptic nightmare for many people who can have their innate humanity overwhelmed and snap.

There are lots of disturbed people in America but only the ones with weapons can carry out personal massacres.

The rest just adapt to the government's massacres in their name.
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Postby OP ED » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:47 am

They'd have to know you were buying guns first. Most of the firearms I own were purchased secondhand, from flea markets etc.

I've been among those arguing to either remove the ban from guns at colleges or actually enforcing it [like a metal detector would help]. Either would be fine for me.

My guns never leave my home, but I've never minded the scrutiny received for acquiring them, when it happens. And neither should anyone else who owns them for legitimate purposes.

Of course, there do seem to be more to these stories than appears on the surface, nonsense about video games and industrial rock music aside.
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