Mukasey: revelation or lie re pre-9/11 phone call?

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Mukasey: revelation or lie re pre-9/11 phone call?

Postby Jeff » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:33 am

Did the attorney general just reveal a critical, previously unknown fact about the 9/11 attack, or did he lie about it to demand new spying powers?

Why doesn't the 9/11 Commission know about Mukasey's 9/11 story?

Glenn Greenwald, April 3, Salon

Last week, during a question-and-answer session following a speech he delivered San Francisco, Attorney General Michael Mukasey revealed a startling and extremely newsworthy fact. As I wrote last Saturday, Mukasey claimed that, prior to 9/11, the Bush administration was aware of a telephone call being made by an Al Qaeda Terrorist from what he called a "safe house in Afghanistan" into the U.S., but failed to eavesdrop on that call. Some help is needed from readers here to generate the attention for this story that it requires.

In that speech, Mukasey blamed FISA's warrant requirement for the failure to eavesdrop on that call -- an assertion which is, for multiple reasons that I detailed in that post, completely false. He then tearfully claimed that FISA therefore caused the deaths of "three thousand people who went to work that day." For obvious reasons, the Attorney Geenral's FISA falsehoods themselves are extremely newsworthy, but it is the story he told about the pre-9/11-planning call from Afghanistan itself that is truly new, and truly extraordinary.

Critically, the 9/11 Commission Report -- intended to be a comprehensive account of all relevant pre-9/11 activities -- makes no mention whatsoever of the episode Mukasey described. What has been long publicly reported in great detail are multiple calls that were made between a global communications hub in Yemen and the U.S. -- calls which the NSA did intercept without warrants (because, contrary to Mukasey's lie, FISA does not and never did require a warrant for eavesdropping on foreign targets) but which, for some unknown reason, the NSA failed to share with the FBI and other agencies. But the critical pre-9/11 episode Mukasey described last week is nowhere to be found in the 9/11 Report or anywhere else. It just does not exist.

Yesterday, I contacted Lee Hamilton, the 9/11 Commission Vice Chairman, to ask him whether the Commission was ever told about Mukasey's alleged Afghan Terrorist 9/11-planning telephone calls and/or the Bush administration's failure/inability to eavesdrop on such calls. Hamilton refused to comment, first claiming that he was in meetings all day yesterday and had no time to talk to me. When asked if he would comment today or whenever he had time, he said he was not going to comment on this ever, since he had not read Mukasey's speech. Calls to 9/11 Executive Director Philip Zelikow seeking comment were not returned and 9/11 Commission Chairman Tom Kean could not yet be reached.

It's unacceptable for Hamilton to refuse to comment on Mukasey's claims. The whole purpose of the 9/11 Commission was to ensure that there was full-scale investigation and disclosure of all facts relevant to the 9/11 attacks, including the Government's actions and inactions in preventing that attack from occurring.

If the Attorney General of the United States, out of the blue, makes an extraordinary and new assertion in a public speech about an easy opportunity the Bush administration had to detect those attacks -- an opportunity he claims was lost because of eavesdropping laws -- Hamilton ought to say whether the Commission was ever told about this incident and/or whether Mukasey is telling the truth. Preventing high government officials from lying about the 9/11 attacks or exposing concealment of key 9/11 facts is his obligation as Vice Chairman of the Commission. Some type of comment from 9/11 Commission officials on Mukasey's claims is vital for generating further attention to this story and for compelling Mukasey to account for what he said.

Hamilton is currently the President and Director of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, and director of The Center on Congress at Indiana University. Please email him at the address below, politely set forth the extraordinary claims the Attorney General just made about the 9/11 attacks (with citations to media sources about the speech -- including here, here, and here), and urge him to fulfill his obligation as 9/11 Commission Vice Chair by confirming whether Mukasey's revelations are true and/or were disclosed to the Commission during its investigation: Lee.hamilton@wilsoncenter.org.

This isn't just a matter of academic and historical interest about the 9/11 attacks, although it is that. One of two things almost certainly happened here, each of which is of great importance. Either Mukasey is lying about the 9/11 attacks in order to manipulate Americans into believing that FISA's warrant requirements are what prevented discovery of the 9/11 attacks and caused 3,000 American deaths -- a completely disgusting act by the Attorney General which obviously cannot be ignored. Or, Mukasey has just revealed the most damning fact yet about the Bush's administration's ability and failure to have prevented the attacks -- facts that, until now, were apparently concealed from the 9/11 Commission and the public.

It's certainly not the "most damning," but it's damning.


more here, including an either uninformed or misleading response from Zelikow
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Postby sunny » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:06 am

You beat me to it, Jeff. I find this to be a highly interesting developement. Glenn, Rachel Maddow, and Olbermann have been giving this a lot of attention and are bound to force the issue one way or the other. Mukasey's all too obvious blunder is bound to force a crack in mainstream discourse, whether they want it or not.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:35 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqDWLbILX7w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee2cxB0wzdI

3/31/08 Countdown transcript

And number one: Mukasey said what-gate? Almost ignored in the coverage of his speech to the Commonwealth Club of San Francisco pleading for telecom immunity, Attorney General Michael Mukasey also said, quote, “Before 9/11, that‘s the call that we didn‘t know about. We knew there has been a call from someplace that was known to be a safe house in Afghanistan, and we knew that it came to the United States, we didn‘t know precisely where it went.”

What? The government knew about some call from the safe house in Afghanistan into the U.S. about 9/11, before 9/11, and even though it had the same FISA courts and the same right to act against international targets in 2001 as it has does now, they didn‘t do anything about it?

Well, this would seem to leave only two options, either the attorney general just admitted that the government for he works is guilty of malfeasance complicity of the 9/11 attacks or he‘s lying.

I‘m betting on lying. If not, somebody in Congress better put that man under oath right quick. You could send them to Gitmo I suppose.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23906974 /


Before the 2001 terrorist attacks, he said, "we knew that there had been a call from someplace that was known to be a safe house in Afghanistan and we knew that it came to the United States. We didn't know precisely where it went. You've got 3,000 people who went to work that day, and didn't come home, to show for that."

Mukasey did not specify the call to which he referred. He also did not explain why the government, if it knew of telephone calls from suspected foreign terrorists, hadn't sought a wiretapping warrant from a court established by Congress to authorize terrorist surveillance, or hadn't monitored all such calls without a warrant for 72 hours as allowed by law. The Justice Department did not respond to a request for more information.
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Postby barracuda » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:31 pm

Ultimately, this can only be a highly scripted, well thought out setup from a man who has proven himself to be an administration puppet from the start. The tell is in the tear, which could only be a bit of theatrical business from Mukasey, a man who is unsure about what constitutes the parameters of torture on his watch, and to whom utter equivocation is a way of life.
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Postby JackRiddler » Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:09 pm

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Top_Democ ... _0403.html

Top Democrats demand Attorney General explain remarks about pre-9/11 phone call
April 3, 2008
The Honorable Michael Mukasey
Attorney General of the United States
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20530

Dear Mr. Attorney General:

We are writing about two disturbing recent revelations concerning the actions and inactions by the Department of Justice and the federal government to combat terrorism. These include a public statement by you that appears to suggest a fundamental misunderstanding of the federal government's existing surveillance authority to combat terrorism, as well as possible malfeasance by the government prior to 9/11, and the partial disclosure of the contents of a secret Department memorandum concerning Executive Branch authority to combat terrorism, which has been previously requested to be provided to Congress. We ask that you promptly provide that memorandum and that you clarify your public statement in accordance with the questions below.

First, according to press reports, in response to questions at a March 27 speech, you defended Administration wiretapping programs and proposals to change the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) by referring to a pre-9/11 incident. Before the 9/11 terrorist attacks, you stated, "we knew that there had been a call from someplace that was known to be a safe house in Afghanistan and we knew that it came to the United States. We didn't know precisely where it went. You've got 3,000 people who went to work that day, and didn't come home, to show for that."1

This statement is very disturbing for several reasons. Initially, despite extensive inquiries after 9/11, I am aware of no previous reference, in the 9/11 Commission report or elsewhere, to a call from a known terrorist safe house in Afghanistan to the United States which, if it had been intercepted, could have helped prevent the 9/11 attacks. In addition, if the Administration had known of such communications from suspected terrorists, they could and should have been intercepted based on existing FISA law. For example, even assuming that a FISA warrant was required to intercept such calls, as of 9/11 FISA specifically authorized such surveillance on an emergency basis without a warrant for a 48 hour period.2 If such calls were known about and not intercepted, serious additional concerns would be raised about the government's failure to take appropriate action before 9/11.

Accordingly, we ask that you promptly answer the following questions:

1. Were you referring to an actual pre-9/11 incident in the portion of your statement quoted above? If not, what were you referring to?
2. Do you believe that a FISA warrant would have been required to intercept a telephone call from a known terrorist safe house in Afghanistan to the United States in 2001? If so, please explain.
3. Even assuming that such a warrant would have been required, do you agree that even before 9/11, FISA authorized emergency interception without a warrant for a 48-hour period of phone calls from a known terrorist safe house in Afghanistan to the United States?
4. Assuming that you were referring to an actual pre-9/11 incident in your statement, please explain why such phone calls were not intercepted and appropriately utilized by federal government authorities in seeking to prevent terrorist attacks.

Second, in the March, 2003 Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) memorandum publicly released on April 1, 2008, the contents of a secret October, 2001 OLC memorandum were partially disclosed. Specifically, the 2003 memorandum explains that in an October 23, 2001 memorandum, OLC "concluded that the Fourth Amendment had no application to domestic military operations."3 On two prior occasions in letters of February 12 and February 20, 2008, Chairman Conyers requested that the Administration publicly release the October 23, 2001, memorandum.4 The memorandum has not been received despite these specific requests.

Based on the title of the October 23, 2001 memorandum, and based on what has been disclosed and the contents of similar memoranda issued at roughly the same time, it is clear that a substantial portion of this memorandum provides a legal analysis and conclusions as to the nature and scope of the Presidential Commander in Chief power to accomplish specific acts within the United States. The people of the United States are entitled to know the Justice Department's interpretation of the President's constitutional powers to wage war in the United States. There can be no actual basis in national security for keeping secret the remainder of a legal memorandum that addresses this issue of Constitutional interpretation. The notion that the President can claim to operate under "secret" powers known only to the President and a select few subordinates is antithetical to the core principles of this democracy. We ask that you promptly release the October 23, 2001, memorandum.

Please provide your responses and direct any questions to the Judiciary Committee office, 2138 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 (tel: 202-225-3951 ; fax: 202-225-7680). Thank you for your cooperation.

Sincerely,

John Conyers, Jr.
Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary

Jerrold Nadler
Chairman, Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties

Robert C. "Bobby" Scott
Chairman, Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security

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Hon. Trent Franks
Hon. Louie Gohmert
Hon. Brian Benczkowski
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Preparation for...?

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:18 pm

So now what is coming after the latest 9/11 tears?

I'm reminded of the recent preparation propaganda story that the FBI was looking for terrorists by looking at...falafel sales.

"Gosh, the FBI really needs more powers to search for evil-doers!"

http://cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=5&docID=hsnews-000002620892

Posted 11/2/07 this absurd story blasted around the internet as viral marketing by 11/06/07 and 11/07/07.
Even Amy Goodman repeated this suspicious 'news' item.

Coincidently, this was exactly when there was a whistleblower testifying as part of the battle over telecom immunity for USG surveillance.

http://www.eff.org/press/releases/2007/11
November 5th, 2007
AT&T Whistleblower to Urge Senate to Reject Blanket Immunity for Telecoms
Press Conference on Capitol Hill on Wednesday, November 7, 10:30am


Washington, D.C. - On Wednesday, November 7, at 10:30am, telecommunications technician and AT&T whistleblower Mark Klein will speak out at a press conference on Capitol Hill, explaining why he is asking lawmakers to reject immunity for telecoms who assisted the Bush administration's spying on millions of Americans.
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November 6th, 2007
Judge Orders Telecommunications Companies to Preserve Evidence in Government Surveillance Cases
Ruling Advances EFF's Class-action Lawsuit Against AT&T


San Francisco - A federal judge today ruled on a preservation motion filed by the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), ordering that telecommunications companies must preserve any evidence of collaborating with the government in illegal spying on ordinary Americans.


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Postby 8bitagent » Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:24 pm

I'm having a good laugh as all the hordes of liberals on comments worldwide on this story say how it's "more evidence the government is negligent and incompetent"

*sigh*
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Postby Jeff » Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:41 pm

8bitagent wrote:I'm having a good laugh as all the hordes of liberals on comments worldwide on this story say how it's "more evidence the government is negligent and incompetent"

*sigh*


Any quotes from these liberal hordes?

And the hordes of conservatives are saying...?
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Postby 8bitagent » Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:58 pm

Jeff wrote:
8bitagent wrote:I'm having a good laugh as all the hordes of liberals on comments worldwide on this story say how it's "more evidence the government is negligent and incompetent"

*sigh*


Any quotes from these liberal hordes?

And the hordes of conservatives are saying...?


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/2/ ... 501/488678
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/03/3 ... f-a-clown/
and many more

Hordes of right wing, Rush loving conservatives? I believe they also swim in the ether of "incompetence"(they just add that "because of all this incompetence, we need more patriot acts to ensure cooperation between agencies)

If the left and right continue to believe 9/11 is nothing more than independently owned and funded "al Qaeda" and a man in a cave then I fail to see how this ultimate litmus test can separate the two.
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Postby 8bitagent » Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:03 pm

Why Don't the Democrats Ask Mukasey Some Real Questions?
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/20 ... -some.html

Its headline news that top Democrats are asking Attorney General Mukasey to explain his comments about a pre-9/11 phone call from a terrorist to the United States.

Why doesn't Congress ask Mukasey some real questions. For example:

* Mr. Attorney General, since the U.S. government knew the date and method of the 9/11 attacks, why weren't the attacks stopped?

* Mr. Mukasey, because the government heard the 9/11 plans from the hijackers' own mouths, why wasn't anything done to stop them?

* Sir, since U.S. and allied intelligence services had penetrated the very highest levels of Al Qaeda prior to 9/11, why wasn't 9/11 stopped?

* U.S. and allied intelligence services seem to have actually employed or at least protected many of the hijackers prior to 9/11. Uh . . . why did they do that?
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Postby 8bitagent » Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:24 pm

Jeff, just watch Keith Olbermann and Air America's Rachel Maddow come *this* close to going full blown LIHOP...its almost like a saturday night live sketch, how they manage to barely touch the big giant smelly elephant in the room...yet play mental gymnastics to barely avoid it
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uEM66yhJo3g

Keith lists all these "problems" ...but like the "honorable" ron paul, no matter how many they list...FBI being told to look the other way, the PDB, etc...its all just "incompetence".

Keith THEN says not only is this proof of incompetence, BUT then says the Bush administration has been inventing and staging fake terror threats and crisis SINCE 9/11. Keithy boy, WAKE UP!

I swear, federal authorities could arrest Cheney for deliberately covering for Saudi government involvement in 9/11, and the left crowd would say "man we have some incompetent fools in power"
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Postby stickdog99 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:03 am

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/ ... index.html

Glenn Greenwald
Tuesday April 8, 2008 14:25 EDT
Lee Hamilton denies Michael Mukasey's claim about 9/11

I just received the following statement from the Vice Chairman of the 9/11 Commission, Rep. Lee Hamilton, in response to my inquiries last week (and numerous follow-up inquiries from readers here) about Attorney General Michael Mukasey's claims about the 9/11 attack and, specifically, about Mukasey's story that there was a pre-9/11 telephone call from an "Afghan safe house" into the U.S. that the Bush administration failed to intercept or investigate:

I am unfamiliar with the telephone call that Attorney General Mukasey cited in his appearance in San Francisco on March 27. The 9/11 Commission did not receive any information pertaining to its occurrence.

That's the statement in its entirety, and it's hard to imagine how it could be any clearer. Hamilton's statement is consistent with the statement of 9/11 Commission Executive Director Philip Zelikow, as well as the letter sent to Mukasey by House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers and two Subcommittee Chairs, none of whom have any idea what Mukasey was talking about.

In light of Hamilton's amazing comment, could journalists possibly now report on this story? more ...
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