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World's largest oil reserves in Iraq

PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:58 pm
by Iroquois
World's largest oil reserves in Iraq
Tue, 20 May 2008 06:44:48

Iraq has officially increased the size of its oil reserves and they could exceed Saudi Arabia's to become the largest in the world.

The Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister told The Times that new exploration showed that his country has the world's largest proven oil reserves, with as much as 350 billion barrels.

The figure is triple the country's present proven reserves and exceeds that of Saudi Arabia's estimated 264 billion barrels of oil.

Barham Salih said that the new estimate had been based on recent geological surveys and seismic data compiled by “reputable, international oil companies...This is a serious figure from credible sources.”

The Iraqi Government has yet to approve a national oil law that would allow foreign companies to invest. Mr Salih said that the delay was damaging Iraq's ability to profit from oil output, robbing the country of potentially huge revenues.

MGH/DT

Source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=56 ... =351020201

McCain predicts Iraq war over by 2013

PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:02 pm
by Iroquois
I guess that means 2012 will be a great year, if McCain is elected.

COLUMBUS, Ohio (CNN) -- Sen. John McCain envisions that by 2013, the Iraq war will be won, but the threat from the Taliban in Afghanistan won't be eliminated, even though Osama bin Laden will have been captured or killed.

Sen. John McCain envisions his first-term achievements during a speech in Columbus, Ohio, Thursday.

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee made both statements in a speech in which he envisions the state of affairs at the end of his first term if he is elected president.

"What I want to do today is take a little time to describe what I would hope to have achieved at the end of my first term as president. I cannot guarantee I will have achieved these things," McCain said in Columbus, Ohio.

McCain's speech was unusual -- and somewhat risky -- in that it laid out benchmarks on which he could be judged.

"It certainly was an ambitious speech," said Bill Schneider, a CNN senior political analyst, noting that many of the things McCain mentioned will be "very tough things for a president to accomplish."

"But perhaps the key point that he made was the tone and tenor of his presidency when he said near the end of his speech, 'If I'm elected president, the era of the permanent campaign will end. The era of problem solving will begin,' " Schneider said.

"What's interesting about that is that precisely echoes what Barack Obama is talking about in his campaign," Schneider said, referring to the Democratic presidential candidate.

The Arizona senator said he believes that the United States will have a smaller military presence in Iraq that will not play a direct combat role, and he predicts that al Qaeda in Iraq will be defeated. Watch McCain say most troops will be home from Iraq by 2013 »

"By January 2013, America has welcomed home most of the servicemen and -women who have sacrificed terribly so that America might be secure in her freedom.

"The Iraq war has been won. Iraq is a functioning democracy, although still suffering from the lingering effects of decades of tyranny and centuries of sectarian tension," McCain said.

The violence in Iraq will persist, the candidate believes, but it will be "spasmodic and much reduced." But civil war will be prevented, armed militias will be disbanded, security forces will become "professional and competent," and the government will be able to impose "its authority in every province of Iraq" and properly defend its borders.

Speaking with reporters after his address, McCain insisted that "we are winning and we will win" in Iraq but said he's not assigning a date for success.

"It could be next month; it could be next year. It could three years from now. It could be, but I'm confident that we will have victory in Iraq, but I'm certainly not putting a date on it. "

McCain said victory means "our troops come home with honor and we do maintain a security relationship ... if viewed necessary by both governments."

He said withdrawing troops would basically be setting "a date for surrender."

Responding to the speech, Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Clinton said in a statement that McCain had offered "the same Bush policies that have weakened our military, our national security, and our standing in the world. Our country cannot afford more empty promises on Iraq."

McCain said he also believes that the "threat from a resurgent Taliban in Afghanistan will be greatly reduced but not eliminated" and that U.S. and NATO forces will remain in the country "to help finish the job, and continue operations against the remnants of al Qaeda."

If he is elected, he said, he would hope that Pakistan will work with the United States in deploying counter-insurgency tactics in the al Qaeda-laden tribal regions.

McCain envisions that Osama bin Laden and his chief lieutenants, would be captured or killed.

"There is no longer any place in the world al Qaeda can consider a safe haven," McCain said.

He also believes that in 2013, there still will not have been a "major terrorist attack in the United States since September 11, 2001."

Read on: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/15/ ... index.html

Re: World's largest oil reserves in Iraq

PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:18 pm
by chlamor
Iroquois wrote:
World's largest oil reserves in Iraq
Tue, 20 May 2008 06:44:48

Iraq has officially increased the size of its oil reserves and they could exceed Saudi Arabia's to become the largest in the world.

The Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister told The Times that new exploration showed that his country has the world's largest proven oil reserves, with as much as 350 billion barrels.

The figure is triple the country's present proven reserves and exceeds that of Saudi Arabia's estimated 264 billion barrels of oil.

Barham Salih said that the new estimate had been based on recent geological surveys and seismic data compiled by “reputable, international oil companies...This is a serious figure from credible sources.”

The Iraqi Government has yet to approve a national oil law that would allow foreign companies to invest. Mr Salih said that the delay was damaging Iraq's ability to profit from oil output, robbing the country of potentially huge revenues.

MGH/DT

Source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=56 ... =351020201


Slight increase from the previously stated 112 billion figure. Maybe "Iraq"
has, with a little help from The U$A, plans to annex Khuzestan?

Maybe they'll slant drill Iran?

Barham Salih is a quisling. Nothing he says can be trusted.

Wouldn't it be just perfect if the US/UK set up station on the Iraqi side of the Iraq/Kuwait border and started using Iraqi territory for slant drilling into Kuwait and then...

Paging April Glaspie Redux in reverse.

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:06 am
by wintler2
Now thats what i call development, from 4th largest http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves
to 2nd largest (claimed in mid 07)
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribun ... _07_18.asp
to now the largest.

At least according to one official, in a report rapidly carried in The Times and other News Corp outlets. Yeah, right.

Now who would benefit from renewed interest in Iraq oil? Not the Poms, no, nothing to do with their troops in or is it now just outside Basra, the oil capital of Iraq. Meanwhile Iraq is exporting much less than the 4mil.barrels/day reached under Saddam.. i wonder if some special investors want to plump Iraqs prospects before selling/bailing out. I don't mean the Iraq oil industry itself is now foriegn owned, i believe their unions managed to stop that (anyone know for sure?), but i'll bet my bike that there are some western investors who bought into exploration/oilservices/contracting post-invasion and who are now desperate to get their money out, hence new bait for new suckers. You can't stop progress.


chlamor wrote:..Wouldn't it be just perfect if the US/UK set up station on the Iraqi side of the Iraq/Kuwait border and started using Iraqi territory for slant drilling into Kuwait and then...

Paging April Glaspie Redux in reverse.
lol It would be sickly hilarious, but seems unlikely. Isn't Kuwait already drilling both sides and selling all for US dollars?

assuming the figure is accurate...

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:24 pm
by slow_dazzle
...it does not make much difference to delaying the onset of the energy plateau. Current world demand is around 84-86 mbd (million barrels per day) which works out at roughly 1 billion barrels every 11 days and around 33 billion per year. So adding another 240 billion barrels to PROVEN reserves won't put off hitting the plateau by more than around 3-5 years, and possibly less as supply increases are soaked up by latent demand and/or economic growth facilitated by additional supplies.

The number of the increased reserves sounds impressive but factor in time lags for bringing the stuff on-stream and it won't have any effect on the energy shortages for years to come. So short term we are still fiznucked.

As awareness of energy supplies peaking permeates the public consciousness I expect more good news stories about wonderful new finds. A big article appeared on the front page of yesterday's Scotsman newspaper which more or less admits we are at peak so this good news story might help calm some nerves, even though the big number of 350 billion is misleading in the context of how the oil peak will be reached and when.

I hope something happens to get us out of this mess btw - oil just hit $129:45.

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:27 pm
by chiggerbit
Remember this bit of news? I wondered at the time if it was some sort of psy-ops, possibly with the purpose of convincing the Sunni's to give up rights to oil in other parts of the country. Maybe not, but interesting if it's true. I looked it up, and there is a meteor crater in this general area. On second look, possibly not an impact crater:

http://tinyurl.com/4yq57d



:lol:


http://tinyurl.com/4wwyxj

February 19, 2007
Iraqi Sunni Lands Show New Oil and Gas Promise
By JAMES GLANZ
KARABILA, Iraq, Feb. 18 — In a remote patch of the Anbar desert just 20 miles from the Syrian border, a single blue pillar of flanges and valves sits atop an enormous deposit of oil and natural gas that would be routine in this petroleum-rich country except for one fact: this is Sunni territory.

Huge petroleum deposits have long been known in Iraq’s Kurdish north and Shiite south. But now, Iraq has substantially increased its estimates of the amount of oil and natural gas in deposits on Sunni lands after quietly paying foreign oil companies tens of millions of dollars over the past two years to re-examine old seismic data across the country and retrain Iraqi petroleum engineers.

The development is likely to have significant political effects: the lack of natural resources in the central and western regions where Sunnis hold sway has fed their disenchantment with the nation they once ruled. And it has driven their insistence on a strong central government, one that would collect oil revenues and spread them equitably among the country’s factions, rather than any division of the country along sectarian regional boundaries.

Though Western and Iraqi engineers have always known that there are oil formations beneath Sunni lands, the issue is coming into sharper focus with the new studies, senior Oil Ministry officials said. The question of where the oil reserves are concentrated is taking on still more importance as it appears that negotiators are close to agreement on a long-debated oil law that would regulate how Iraqi and international oil companies would be allowed to develop Iraq’s fields. [Page A6.]

The new studies have increased estimates of the amount of oil in a series of deposits in Sunni territory to the north and east of Baghdad and in a series of deposits that run through western Iraq like beads on a string, and could contain as much as a trillion cubic feet of natural gas. The revised figures, though large, would not mean that deposits in Sunni territories could challenge the giant fields elsewhere in the country.

And while it would take years actually to begin pulling gas and oil out of the fields even if the area soon became safe enough for companies to work in, energy corporations have been excited about the area’s potential, even if it falls short of reserves in the Shiite south and Kurdish north.

The analysis, still little known outside a small circle of specialists, is important enough that on Friday, Brig. Gen. John R. Allen of the Second Marine Expeditionary Force, who is deputy commanding general of Multi-National Force-West, which has responsibility for Anbar Province, made the long trip into the desert to visit the blue wellhead. General Allen’s duties include promoting the economic development of the province.

The deposit beneath is the Akkas field, one of the beads on the string that runs from Ninewa Province in the north to the border with Saudi Arabia in the south.

“It’s phenomenal standing here,” General Allen said. “What this does is it gives Anbar and the Sunnis an economic future different from phosphate and cement,” he said, referring to products of some of the aging factories in the area.

“This gives them a future and a hope,” he said. Nearby, a few pieces of laundry flapped in front of one of the only structures in sight, a cinder-block shack probably belonging to a shepherd.

Iraqi oil production peaked at around 3.7 million barrels a day in 1979, as Saddam Hussein was coming to power, according to the United States Department of Energy.

The figure rose and fell over the years and stood at 2.6 million barrels a day just before the 2003 invasion. Current production is less than the prewar figure, a major disappointment for the American and Iraqi engineers who have struggled to rebuild the national oil infrastructure.

That production has always been concentrated in the north and south. But at various times Iraq has drilled a few exploratory wells in the Anbar desert and in a series of deposits north and east of Baghdad, where there has also been limited production, Natik K. al-Bayati, director of reservoirs and field development at the Oil Ministry, said in a recent interview.

For all of its wells, Iraq has also collected seismic data — records of the tremors that ripple through the earth’s crust and can be used like X-rays to investigate underground structures.

But Iraq’s long isolation from the rest of the world meant that the data had never been analyzed with the latest technology, Mr. Bayati said in the interview, which was attended by his chief geologist and another ministry expert on reservoirs and authorized by the oil minister, Hussain al-Shahristani.

It was partly for that reason, Mr. Bayati said, that Iraq allocated up to $25 million each for agreements with some 40 international oil companies, which have provided training, legal consulting and technical help — including access to the latest software — with the data analysis. In the process, “We got some pleasant surprises,” he said.

A re-examination of one series of wells running from Taji, just north of Baghdad, to an area southeast of the capital nearly doubled the estimate of recoverable reserves after raising the estimated total to around 15 billion barrels, Mr. Bayati said.

That is one of a series of similar structures in Sunni areas north of Baghdad that are still being studied, he said. Current estimates for all proven reserves in Iraq amount to about 115 billion barrels, according to numerous industry and government analysts in Iraq and the West.

Mr. Bayati said that the studies, which were conducted across the whole country, also increased estimates of the natural gas reserves in Sunni-dominated Ninewa and Anbar Provinces in the west. He said that the amount of natural gas that could theoretically be extracted from the Akkas field alone would be the energy equivalent of around 100,000 barrels of oil a day.

In the past, some Western oil experts have speculated that as much as 100 billion barrels of additional crude oil could be found in deep formations in Anbar, but investigating those structures would probably require new seismic testing with equipment on the ground, a difficult task given the dangers of working in Iraq at the moment.

Akkas is expected to be among a small number of fields to be given priority in Iraq’s development plan once the oil law is passed.

Although Mr. Bayati was initially reluctant to discuss the political implications of oil and gas reserves in Sunni territory, he eventually conceded that the impact was likely to spread beyond the arcane world of oil engineering. “Eventually one has to deal with reality on the ground,” he said.

The work has not gone unnoticed elsewhere in Baghdad.

“It could be a real positive,” a senior United States official said about the Akkas field. “There are people who believe it could be quite large.”

The official said that more work needed to be done, including new seismic measurements to better map the fields.

The potential of the gas fields has also caught the attention of some in the American military command, including General Allen, who believes that the natural gas could be used to generate electricity and serve as a raw material at chemical plants in Anbar.

The promise of the oil and gas fields in Sunni territory comes with numerous cautions, including the challenges of doing almost anything with the fields as long as Iraq remains such a dangerous place to work, particularly for foreign companies with substantial expertise.

Even if companies can develop the fields, it could be years before the necessary wells can be dug and pipelines built to move the oil and gas from the fields.

But the novelty of oil resources on Sunni territory has certainly caught the fancy of those the finds could affect the most. Farhan T. Farhan, the mayor of Qaim, which is the nearest populated area to Akkas, said in an interview that he already had his eye on the possible economic benefits of developing the field.

“If we use this petroleum,” he said, “it will be enough for all the west of Iraq.”

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:49 pm
by AlicetheKurious
But what do you make of this? There was a recent article quoting an Iranian official saying basically the same thing, that there's no shortage of oil but that the prices were being driven up by speculators, but I can't find it now:


Investors' flight to oil pushes price to record

By Jad Mouawad
Published: March 4, 2008


Capping a relentless rise in recent years, oil prices hit an all-time high during the day on Monday, then pulled back to close below the record.

The day's highest trading price, $103.95 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange, broke the record set in April 1980 during the second oil shock. That price, $39.50 a barrel, equals $103.76 today, when adjusted for inflation.

The surge in energy prices is taking place as investors seek refuge in commodities to offset a slowing economy and a declining dollar.

Analysts pointed out that financial institutions like pension funds and hedge funds are also buying oil and other commodities like gold as hedges against a rise in inflation.

That trend is expected to continue, especially after Ben Bernanke, the chairman of the Federal Reserve, signaled last week that he was ready to cut interest rates further to bolster economic growth, despite rising consumer prices.


"When investors lose confidence in the central bank, they tend to look for hard assets," said Philip Verleger, an economist and oil expert. "The Fed's capitulation on inflation is driving investors to commodities."

For example, CALPERS, the California Public Employees' Retirement System, the largest U.S. pension fund, said last week that it might increase its commodities investments sixteenfold to $7.2 billion through 2010, to benefit from an across-the-board surge in commodities like gold, silver, oil and wheat.

The latest catalyst for the spike in energy prices has been the recent fall in the value of the dollar, analysts said. Currency traders are selling dollars and buying euros to take advantage of the difference in interest rates between the United States and Europe.

After steep declines last week, the dollar dropped to a record $1.5274 against the euro on Monday before recovering somewhat. It also fell to its lowest level in three years against the Japanese yen.

Like many commodities, oil is priced in dollars on the international market. A falling dollar tends to buoy oil prices in part because consumers using stronger currencies, like the euro or yen, can afford to pay more per barrel.

"The question for oil is, Where is the dollar going?" said Roger Diwan, a managing director at PFC Energy, a consulting firm in Washington. "That's going to be the main market mover in the short term." ...

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/04/ ... /04oil.php


"Oil prices continue to rise and rise, with no end in sight. Virtually all other commodities seem to be following to be the same suit. Some now say a new economic system is emerging from the ashes of the old and now crumbling financial structure. Failing to meet even the basic needs of the common man, the current economic system is facing its worst crisis and appears in doldrums. It has miserably failed the underprivileged of this world.

Markets appear divorced from the fundamentals. F. William Engdahl strongly says in a recent write up that the oil markets (and other markets too) today are controlled by an elaborate financial market system as well as by the four major Anglo-American oil companies. As much as 60 percent of today’s crude oil price is pure speculation driven by large trader banks and hedge funds. It has nothing to do with the convenient myths of Peak Oil. It has to do with control of oil and its price."


Link

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:14 pm
by chiggerbit
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=4417

".....These vast untapped reserves of easily reachable and low-cost oil, not to mention natural gas, have long been a crucial target of the US and British energy conglomerates, particularly as the discovery of new oil deposits elsewhere in the world have drastically slowed and existing reserves have declined. With demand increasing, particularly from rapidly developing countries such as China and India, control of Middle East oil, and control of the Iraq’s vast reserves in particular, became a vital geo-strategic goal for American imperialism.

As early as the mid-1990s, there was growing concern that the unraveling of the United Nations sanctions imposed after the first Gulf War would enable Saddam Hussein to establish lucrative agreements with French, Russian, Chinese and other oil companies that would leave the US and Britain out and realign the global energy industry. Political writer Kevin Phillips noted in his book American Theocracy: The Peril and Politics of Radical Religion, Oil and Borrow Money in the 21st Century, “So long as the United States and Britain could keep these sanctions in place, using allegations concerning weapons of mass destruction, Saddam could not implement his own plan to extend large-scale oil concessions (estimated to be worth $1.1 trillion)” to their economic rivals in Europe and Asia.

Months after the US invasion of Iraq—and after a long legal battle with the White House—it was revealed that control of Iraq’s oil fields was one of the chief issues discussed in Vice President Dick Cheney’s Energy Task Force meeting with oil executives in 2001. Among the items released under court order were maps of Iraq’s oil fields, pipelines and refineries, with a supporting list of “Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts,” naming more than 60 firms from 30 countries, most prominently France, Russia and China, that had projects either agreed upon or under discussion with Baghdad. The French giant, Total, for example, was to get the 25-billion barrel Majnoon oil field, while Russia’s Lukoil had deals to develop the West Qurna fields......"

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:39 am
by wintler2
I dimly remember report in ?2004 of exploration crews from some oil major returning from Iraq with nothing very special & new to tell, and since then its been left to minor explorers. Found nothing to support that, but did find pearl of a site http://www.iraqoilreport.com/ with pretty decent news archive, http://www.iraqoilreport.com/?s=exploration suggests exploration is ongoing in Kurdish & western Iraq, has been since 2005 at least http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0103/p17s01-cogn.html

If i read this threads initial report right then this years higher reserve estimate is due to reanalysis of old data. Fair enough, but interesting if they're claiming nothing significant from last three years actual exploration. Maybe cos such claims could be falsified, as all recent exploration is being done by co's reqd to provide more than a press release to prove finds.

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:23 pm
by Stephen Morgan
It's long been known that Iraq has been underexplored because the oil companies didn't want a glut of supplies lowering the prices, then the Saudi dominance of OPEC took the same role. Iraq very probably has got the world's biggest reserves (similarly Saudi reserves "are" only what the Saudis claim them to be, there's no independent evidence, so they're not what they seem either).

Re: assuming the figure is accurate...

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:28 pm
by stickdog99
slow_dazzle wrote:I hope something happens to get us out of this mess btw - oil just hit $129:45.

Iraq and Saudi oil costs about $1.29 a barrel to extract from the ground and is now selling for 100 times its cost. Mission accomplished.

Re: assuming the figure is accurate...

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:47 pm
by slow_dazzle
stickdog99 wrote:
slow_dazzle wrote:I hope something happens to get us out of this mess btw - oil just hit $129:45.

Iraq and Saudi oil costs about $1.29 a barrel to extract from the ground is now selling for 100 times its cost. Mission accomplished.


Aye stickdogg99, I know about the lifting costs although there are refinery and transport costs to factor in as well. Still damned big profits being made though.

I wonder what would happen if the price dropped by around 90%. Would that make loads of oil available for any country that wanted it? I very much doubt it because if current supply cannot fulfill demand how a drop in price is going to magic up more oil is difficult to envisage. Either the oil is there or it isn't. I agree that there is rank profiteering by the oil companies but if there isn't enough supply to meet demand dropping the price does bugger all to address the supply shortfall. The profiteering is possibly just another facet of "Shock Doctrine/Disaster Capitalism".

And oil is still cheaper than bottled water...

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:47 pm
by stickdog99
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Look at this chart and think of the history of Iraq. It appears that somebody didn't want Iraq producing a lot of oil back then and this somebody still doesn't want Iraq producing much oil right now. I mean, it's been five years since the invasion, we have spent over a half a trillion there, and we can't get something that we can extract for less than $2 and sell for $130 a barrel out of the ground? How can that be possible if it's not by design? The reason oil production is so low is the same reason that Baghdad gets just an hour or two of power each day -- because we want it that way.

Thank you stickdogg99

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 2:03 pm
by slow_dazzle
Thanks for the quick response and the comment - appreciated.

There is an interesting analogy to be made here. Opium costs very little to produce yet it has a massive street value once it has been refined to heroin. Just because something is cheap to produce at source does not translate into cheap prices on the street - supply and demand (illegality is a factor here, of course). Oil is cheap to pull out of the ground yet expensive to buy - supply and demand.

If more oil was available through increased OPEC production they would welcome the high profits presumably. It isn't as though the increased supply would translate into lower prices; it couldn't because the increased supply would presumably go to meet the constantly increasing demand. Forecasts for the future anticipate demand of up to 120 mbd within the next few years. So if the oil is being squirreled away for whatever reason I hope it is adequate to up supply by nearly 50%.

Anyway, thanks again for posting and so quickly. It is helpful to get your perspective on what is going on. :wink:

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 3:29 pm
by stickdog99
Oil was trading a $20 a barrel in 2002. Now it is trading at $130 a barrel. Total oil demand has gone up less than 10 million barrels a day over the last 6 years. Full bore Iraq production alone could have supplied most of that extra 10 million barrels a day. Somebody is making a mint by NOT drilling for Iraqi oil.

You don't care about this. You are worried about oil running out soon. From your point of view the higher the price, the less demand will grow and the more incentive there will be to conserve and invest in alternative energy sources. Great. I appreciate your point of view. But it doesn't change the fact that we invaded Iraq at a cost of more than half a trillion (so far) in order to stop Iraqi oil production and we are rattling our saber at Iran just as Iran's oil production is steadily increasing to pre-Iranian revolution levels.

If you have oil, you have two choices. You can be a good client state who dances to the tune of Big Oil, or you can be added to the Axis of Evil. It's not about stealing the oil; it's about controlling the spigot, maximizing profit and making sure the windfalls land in the right hands.