RIP Sydney Pollack

[Jeff]

http://www.variety.com/article/VR111798 ... Id=13&cs=1

Director of Three Days of the Condor, They Shoot Horses Don't They? and Castle Keep. (And, uh, The Way We Were, Out of Africa and Tootsie.)

Victor Ziegler:



"I know what happened last night.... If I told you their names, I don't think you'd sleep so well."

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Sydney Pollock, like Disney, Spielberg, and Lucas, was one of the big time USG-CIA propaganda film makers polluting the American mind with decoys of sentiment meant to prevent outrage at the reality of what the US government does behind the backs of its citizens.

Too many of Pollack's movies were hardcore psy-ops for him not to be in on it.

I've already watched and analyzed some of his best known movies to find the scandals mirrored within very cleverly so I'm sure there are many more I haven't seen yet.
I have been meaning to in order to find all the black op gold mnemonically buried in Pollack's work.

I'll be editing this to update it with what I've found on Pollack.
Everyone should know the real 1975 story behind 'Three Days of the Condor' by now, for instance--

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Pollack

Director

* The Slender Thread (1965) director
* This Property Is Condemned (1966) director
* The Scalphunters' (1968) director
* The Swimmer (1968) co-director
* Castle Keep (1969) director
* They Shoot Horses, Don't They? (1969) director
* Jeremiah Johnson (1972) director
* The Way We Were (1973) director
* Three Days of the Condor (1975) director - Operation Condor
* The Yakuza (1975) director/producer - anything but Senate hearings on CIA
* Bobby Deerfield (1977) director/producer
* The Electric Horseman (1979) director/actor
* Absence of Malice (1981) director/producer - Clay Shaw trial
* Tootsie (1982) director/producer/actor
* Out of Africa (1985) director/producer - CIA Africa exoneration
* Havana (1990) director/co-producer
* The Firm (1993) director/producer - FBI murder of MLKing
* Sabrina (1995) director/producer
* Random Hearts (1999) director
* Sketches of Frank Gehry (2005) director
* The Interpreter (2005) director, executive producer, and actor - Sibel Edmonds + US coup in Haiti

Producer

* The Fabulous Baker Boys (1989) executive producer -
* Presumed Innocent (1990) producer
* Sense and Sensibility (1995) executive producer
* Sliding Doors (1998) producer
* The Talented Mr. Ripley (1999) executive producer
* Iris (2001) executive producer
* The Quiet American (2002) executive producer
* Cold Mountain (2003) producer
* Breaking and Entering (2006) producer
* Michael Clayton (2007) producer - Robert Clayton Buick/JFK/Oswald
* Recount (2008) executive producer

[Jeff]

[Nordic]

Could we all PLEASE just ignore Hugh on this thread?

This isn't the thread for it.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Could we all PLEASE just ignore Hugh on this thread?

This isn't the thread for it.

This isn't a condolence note for Pollack's immediate family. It's a discussion board.

This most certainly IS the thread to discuss Pollack's life work which I've studied with some care and that is not "hijacking" the thread, Jeff.

I'm very hostile to Pollack's work which was extremely deceptive and damaging to this country.
He frequently worked for KILLERS and CRIMINALS covering their tracks. That's often what Hollywood does for the US government.

[smiths]

woops

[Jeff]

I'll be editing this to update it with what I've found on Pollack.

And yet you already know enough about Pollack to unreservedly call him "one of the big time USG-CIA propaganda film makers polluting the American mind."

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

I'll be editing this to update it with what I've found on Pollack.

And yet you already know enough about Pollack to unreservedly call him "one of the big time USG-CIA propaganda film makers polluting the American mind."

Yes. Way too many of his movies were pure psy-ops for him not to be in on it.

I've watched five of Sydney Pollack's films just in the last year on video as I'm looking closely at mainstream movies with big names in them.

Pollack routinely did counterpropaganda movies that covered for CIA and FBI crimes, just like those others I mentioned.

An excellent example is 'The Firm' (1993) starring Tom Cruise.
It is really about the FBI's murder of Martin Luther King.

In 1991 the subject of US spooks carrying out political assassinations opened wide up again with Oliver Stone's movie, 'JFK.'
In 1992 Dick Russell's book about a man who knew Oswald was CIA came out.

Then the Martin Luther King cover-up got stressed by new events.

In 1992 James Earl Ray published his book, 'Who Killed Martin Luther King?'
Ray's lawyers were instrumental in digging up how the FBI and Mafia killed King in Memphis, just as others were in the JFK case like Mark Lane.

In 1993 'The Firm' movie is set in Memphis and was constructed to counter James Earl Ray's book using negative framing of whistleblowers and positive framing of the USG cover-up, a standard counterpropaganda movie formula.

The basic meme-reversal of 'The Firm' was that instead of the MLK reality of lawyers being the good guys finding out the FBI + Mafia worked together, the movie has FBI as the good guys and lawyers + Mafia working together.

The movie's evil law firm working for the Mafia does to Tom Cruise what the FBI did to Martin Luther King, including making blackmail sex tapes.

Recall part of the counterpropaganda formula-
'Negative framing of whistleblowers.'
>>Tom Cruise's character even has a brother in jail named Ray who is central to the plot.
And in the movie Ray ends up being helped to get away by an Elvis look-alike to discredit the reality of Ray's description of his handler called Raul who set him up as the MLK patsy.

The reality of Raul was later confirmed when he was found by researchers in Rhode Island.

Recall part of the counterpropaganda formula-
'Positive framing of USG cover stories.'
>>A heavy killer working for the evil law firm and threatening our hero, Tom Cruise, is known as..."the Albino." This is a clever way to bring skin color issues into an otherwise lily white movie to evoke the alleged reason for patsy James Earl Ray's murder of King, plain old racism.

Tom Cruise's movie wife is coiffed to be the spitting image of Jackie Onassis, Mrs. John Kennedy, a way to subtly evoke the topic of assassinations without bringing the subject of MLK out of the audience's subliminal processing zone.

These same counterpropaganda techniques - meme-reversal and negative framing of whistleblowers against CIA and FBI are in the Pollack movies I've seen and probably many others, too.

In 'The Interpreter' (2005) there's negative framing of both FBI whistleblower, Sibel Edmonds, and Jean-Betrand Aristide who the US had just staged a coup against in Haiti the year before.

Standard operating procedure for CIA-Hollywood.
And Sydney damn Pollack, Really Important Propagandist.

on edit:
Forgot to mention 'The Firm's' fiction mirror of other civilians killed by the USG over Vietnam just like MLK, Kent State. This serves as another subtle thematic trigger for the MLK spin mirrors. (Is this in Grisham's novel or just Pollack's movie?)

Tom Cruise finds out that four lawyers have just died mysterious deaths, one of them named "Alice Kraus."

Allison Krause is the best known name of the four students shot dead by National Guard troops during Vietnam War protests at Kent State in 1970.



The talent and fame of today's fiddle player of the same name (slight spelling difference) has been a god-send for displacing this USG history in the minds of recruitable country music fans.

[orz]

anything but

[smiths]

The Firm is a 1991 legal thriller and the second novel by John Grisham. The first came out in 1989

The film follows the book in most respects.

Since it came out as a book in 1991 and he must have started writing it 1989 or 1990, how could any of the 1991, 1992 and 1993 events of had fuck all to do with what John Grisham was writing, they happened after?

the movie is set in memphis because the book is set in memphis

[kelley]

so far, leaving out the bookends of 'dog day afternoon' and 'before the devil knows you're dead' strains the credibility of these arguments

those two films alone demonstrate mr pollack's genius

carry on

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

The Firm is a 1991 legal thriller and the second novel by John Grisham. The first came out in 1989

The film follows the book in most respects.

Since it came out as a book in 1991 and he must have started writing it 1989 or 1990, how could any of the 1991, 1992 and 1993 events of had fuck all to do with what John Grisham was writing, they happened after?
.....

The context of the movie timing is different then the novel but the novel's history is even more interesting.

1989 is also when a dangerous MLK expose book came out to good reviews.

So if the movie really is true to Grisham's novel, I'd examine Grisham's work, too.
Maybe he got the basic template right just by linking lawyers to the mob which put the decoy ball on the field and the movie-fication details run the ball the rest of the way down the mnemonic field.

Loads of assassination research books were coming out at this time and a guy who could crank out lawyer-mob stories where CIA wasn't the heavy would be very valuable.

Sure enough, Operation Mockingbird Hollywood and print made Grisham a famous guy just because of 'The Firm' and before it was even published.
Hmmm...

Seems that the evil-for-years Paramount Pictures was hot to buy the rights to 'The Firm' in 1990 even though his first book wasn't noted. THEY knew the psy-ops value of 'The Firm,' I'm sure, even if Grisham didn't.
Paramount was CIA-steered since atleast 1953 as documents I put in the Data Dump forum show-
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=12707

Notice that a Hollywood mystery person was reading 'The Firm' as it was written and before it was published and the rails of best-sellerdom were lavishly greased so that all the world would read the novel and see the movie-

http://shs.starkville.k12.ms.us/mswm/MSWritersAndMusicians/writers/Grisham.html

John Grisham's second book, The Firm, was a hit before it was published in 1991. Paramount Pictures paid Grisham for the rights to his book in 1990, knowing that this story had the potential to attract movie audiences.
.....
When Grisham was writing his second book, The Firm, a scout for a Hollywood production company read the original manuscript for it and gave Grisham $600,000 for the movie rights to The Firm (Grisham 1993 2-4). Because of this publicity and the acknowledgment that Hollywood was interested in the story, The Firm, published in 1991, got national attention. Five hundred fifty thousand hardback copies were sold and seven million paperback copies were sold. John Grisham became a well- known author.

But Paramount and the NYTimes bestseller list didn't give this treatment to the 1989 Philip Melanson expose on the USG's murder of MLK, did they?

1989- Philip Melanson puts out a well received MLK book which makes the case Ray couldn't have been a lone perp and the CIA is involved. Titled after the FBI's investigation of MLK's murder-
[url]http://www.amazon.ca/Murkin-Conspiracy-Investigation-Assassination-Martin/dp/0275930297/ref=
dp_return_1/701-2615716-5113919?ie=UTF8&n=916520&s=books
[/url]

The Murkin Conspiracy: An Investigation Into the Assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, JR. (Hardcover)
.....
Publisher: Praeger Publishers (April 1989)

Any assassination books also in the works at the time or out recently (like Melanson's) would be reason enough to generate a decoy book on MLK.
Like-
1988 Jim Garrison's 'On the Trail of the Assassins' (led to the 1991 movie 'JFK')
1989 Philip Melanson's 'The Murkin Conspiracy'
1990 Livingstone and Groden's 'High Treason'
1991 Mark Lane's 'Plausible Denial'
19?? James Earl Ray's book, who knows how long he spent writing it?
Both Jesse Jackson and Mark Lane, a JFK celebrity, wrote prefaces to Ray's book.

And Ray's book has the seeds for the next Hollywood MLK decoy movie, 'A Family Thing.' (I've found around 6 MLK-themed decoy movies. They aren't rare or unique.)
...etc.

[MacCruiskeen]

Everyone should know the real 1975 story behind 'Three Days of the Condor' by now, for instance--

Don't keep us on tenterhooks, Hugh; it's like watching a Hollywood movie.

Meanwhile: R.I.P. Sidney Pollack. I saw only one film he made (Three Day of the Condor) and one he acted in (Eyes Wide Shut), and they were both memorable. Plus The Swimmer, which he co-directed. It made a strong impression on me when I watched it on TV at the age of about 14, but I haven't seen it since. (Anyone here watched it recently?)

Cheever Surrealism: an American Midsummer Night's Dream

[IanEye]

The major's men humorously find their own pleasures and distractions in Castle Keep: one moves in with the wife of an absent baker, another zealously guards the castle's art treasures, and one falls in love with the prototype of the Volkswagen Beetle. The welcome, if odd, sense of peace is disturbed when the Germans attack and the soldiers vainly try to save the Old World treasures inside.

A group of eight American soldiers are led by Major Falconer (Burt Lancaster) to a castle in Belgium's Ardennes Forest. Falconer is an ardent hawk, as evident by his eye patch, in command of dissident men. Captain Beckman (Patrick O'Neal) is an art historian that cares for the castle upon the squadron's arrival, yet his attempts to spread the love amongst the men are in vain. The enlistees, especially Sgt. Rossi (Peter Falk), are more interested in going to the town's bordello—except Corporal Clearboy (Scott Wilson), whose affection is directed solely at a white Volkswagen Beetle. As a matter of fact, the Beetle is more interesting than any of the human characters. The only scene of the movie that actually succeeds is when two of the privates try in vain to kill the Beetle by drowning and shooting it.

[sunny]

Legendary director, actor Sidney Pollack dies of cancer

Academy Award-winning director Sydney Pollack, who achieved critical
acclaim with the period drama "Out of Africa" and the romantic
comedy "Tootsie," died of cancer Monday, his agent told CNN.

Pollack, 73, died at his home in Los Angeles. He was surrounded by his
wife of nearly 50 years, Claire Griswold, their two daughters, Rebecca
and Rachel, and his brother, Bernie, agent Leslee Dart said. Their only
son Steven died in a plane crash in 1993.

Pollack, who often appeared on the screen himself, worked with and
gained the respect of Hollywood's best actors in a long career that
reached prominence in the 1970s and 1980s, according to the
Associated Press.

"Sydney made the world a little better, movies a little better and even
dinner a little better. A tip of the hat to a class act," actor George
Clooney said in a statement issued by his publicist, the Associated
Press reported.

Last fall, Pollack played Marty Bach opposite Clooney in "Michael Clayton,"
a drama that examines the life of a fixer for lawyers. The film, which
Pollack co-produced, received seven Oscar nominations, including best
picture and a best actor nod for Clooney, according to the Associated
Press.

Pollack was no stranger to the Academy Awards. In 1986, "Out of Africa,"
a romantic epic of a woman's passion set against the landscape of colonial
Kenya, captured seven Oscars, including best director, The Associated
Press reported. Watch a glimpse of Pollack's film contributions »

In addition to directing "Out of Africa," "Tootsie," "The Way We Were," and
a host of other Oscar-nominated films, he appeared in Stanley Kubrick's
"Eyes Wide Shut," Woody Allen's "Husbands and Wives," and his own "The
Electric Horseman."

He also produced nearly 50 films, including 1981's "Absence of Malice,"
which starred Paul Newman and Sally Field, and 1999's "The Talented
Mr. Ripley," which starred Matt Damon.

Though he had been working until recently -- his show "Recount" premiered
Sunday night on HBO -- he had been in a lot of pain and did not watch it,
Dart said.

Doctors never were able to determine the primary source of the
cancer, she said.

Services will be private, she said.

CNN.com