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Searcher08 wrote:I felt quite ill reading that (my family is there) -it felt like "Sauron's darkness touching The Shire..." The poor kids.
MacCruiskeen wrote:Yeah,what a terrible story. I know from family holidays there in the 60s and 70s that that is one country where kids used to feel safe. Even in the big city. Even and especially foreign kids.
"Economic development." What a blessing. Well, at least the roads are better than they used to be.
AhabsOtherLeg wrote:I assume this is the same Ireland that produced the Christian Brothers' Schools and the Magdalen Homes we're talking about here, isn't it?
Darkness touching the Shire? Bloody hell. You make it sound like someone should fly over Dublin, taking pictures of the uncontacted tribes who call it home!![]()
I'm not meaning to be nasty here - I'm kind of still hoping you were all being ironic - but Kincora Boy's Home, anybody? (well, ok, that was the North, but still).
"Ireland is known as a place with very poorly guarded borders, where few questions are asked." WHAT?! Maybe if you fly in. Try driving in from Belfast, or getting the ferry from Bournemouth. There are certainly questions asked (maybe it was just me).
Saying, that, though, it is a very friendly place, and I love it dearly. But I'm not surprised by the article. I'm more surprised that anyone is.
Searcher08 wrote:I went to a Christian Brothers school in Belfast - one of them who was a family friend and he was later jailed for abuse (described elsewhere on RI) .
Searcher08 wrote:Kincora was one of the few things that united both Catholic and Protestant politicians - in wanting to bury it.
Searcher08 wrote:As for security, when I fly into Belfast, I will soon have to use a UK passport. Do Americans flying into Alaska or Hawaii have to show theirs, I wonder? However, as for the poorly guarded borders, going into Ireland from the North rivals Canada / America for ease of undetection.
Searcher08 wrote:I felt I just lost that place from the 60's and 70's , as Mac described.
AhabsOtherLeg wrote:MacCruiskeen wrote:Yeah,what a terrible story. I know from family holidays there in the 60s and 70s that that is one country where kids used to feel safe. Even in the big city. Even and especially foreign kids.
"Economic development." What a blessing. Well, at least the roads are better than they used to be.
Oops, I see yous were being ironic, a bit. TaraWatch.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kincora_boy%27s_home
Sorry.
MacCruiskeen wrote:The first para wasn't meant ironically, Ahab. (The second was, of course.) And just before I logged on here today, I was thinking, "Somebody's gonna have said 'Christian Brothers', 'Kincora', 'Magdalene', etc., etc" Of course you're right to say it, and I wasn't suggesting Ireland was ever flawless, least of all for children stuck in horrible institutions.
MacCruiskeen wrote:I just meant it was a very friendly place, friendly towards visitors, friendly towards visitors' kids, and not at all in a creepy way.
MacCruiskeen wrote:One anecdote, and I swear this is true: one day in summer (I was eight or nine at the time), I rushed onto the platform at Westmoreland St railway station (central Dublin) with my three siblings and two parents...
Two parents you had, now?
I surrender!
MacCruiskeen wrote:I would really have expected better from you, Ahab.
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