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OMG, even Julia Child was a spy?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:41 am
by chiggerbit
~sigh~

http://tinyurl.com/5lbzql

Documents detailing early spy network released

Long-held secret CIA files identify nearly 24,000 spies from WWII era

BRETT J. BLACKLEDGE and RANDY HERSCHAFT
AP News

Aug 13, 2008 16:55 EST

Famed chef Julia Child shared a secret with Supreme Court Justice Arthur Goldberg and Chicago White Sox catcher Moe Berg at a time when the Nazis threatened the world.

They served in an international spy ring managed by the Office of Strategic Services, an early version of the CIA created in World War II by President Franklin Roosevelt.

The secret comes out Thursday, all of the names and previously classified files identifying nearly 24,000 spies who formed the first centralized intelligence effort by the United States. The National Archives, which this week released a list of the names found in the records, will make available for the first time all 750,000 pages identifying the vast spy network of military and civilian operatives.

They were soldiers, actors, historians, lawyers, athletes, professors, reporters. But for several years during World War II, they were known simply as the OSS. They studied military plans, created propaganda, infiltrated enemy ranks and stirred resistance among foreign troops.

Among the more than 35,000 OSS personnel files are applications, commendations and handwritten notes identifying young recruits who, like Child, Goldberg and Berg, earned greater acclaim in other fields — Arthur Schlesinger Jr., a historian and special assistant to President Kennedy; Sterling Hayden, a film and television actor whose work included a role in "The Godfather"; and Thomas Braden, an author whose "Eight Is Enough" book inspired the 1970s television series.

Other notables identified in the files include John Hemingway, son of author Ernest Hemingway; Quentin and Kermit Roosevelt, sons of President Theodore Roosevelt, and Miles Copeland, father of Stewart Copeland, drummer for the band The Police.

The release of the OSS personnel files uncloaks one of the last secrets from the short-lived wartime intelligence agency, which for the most part later was folded into the CIA after President Truman disbanded it in 1945.

"I think it's terrific," said Elizabeth McIntosh, 93, a former OSS agent now living in Woodbridge, Va. "They've finally, after all these years, they've gotten the names out. All of these people had been told never to mention they were with the OSS."

The CIA had resisted releasing OSS records for decades. But former CIA Director William Casey, himself an OSS veteran, cleared the way for transfer of millions of OSS documents to the National Archives when he took over the agency in 1981. The personnel files are the latest to be made public.

Information about OSS involvement was so guarded that relatives often couldn't confirm a family member's work with the group.

Walter Mess, who handled covert OSS operations in Poland and North Africa, said he kept quiet for more than 50 years, only recently telling his wife of 62 years about his OSS activity.

"I was told to keep my mouth shut," said Mess, now 93 and living in Falls Church, Va.

The files will offer new information even for those most familiar with the agency. Charles Pinck, president of the OSS Society created by former OSS agents and their relatives, said the nearly 24,000 employees included in the archives far exceeds previous estimates of 13,000.

The newly released documents will clarify these and other issues, said William Cunliffe, an archivist who has worked extensively with the OSS records at the National Archives.

"We're saying the OSS was a lot bigger than they were saying," Cunliffe said.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:51 am
by IanEye
old news.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:58 am
by barracuda
My mom told me this when I was a kid. It made those boring cooking shows more "palatable".

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:01 am
by chiggerbit
What??? Everybody else knew this? Ack, I'm the last to know, once again. Sorry, trep.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:06 am
by barracuda
Image

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:30 am
by Brighid_Moon
Looking forward to this list.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:47 am
by brainpanhandler
barracuda wrote:My mom told me this when I was a kid. It made those boring cooking shows more "palatable".


Maybe your mom was in the oss. :shock: I loved watching reruns of The French Chef on WGBH, Boston as a kid. I learned how to cook from Julia Child.

Sterling Hayden, a film and television actor whose work included a role in "The Godfather";

While Hayden was good as the currupt Captain McCluskey in The Godfather, who could ever forget his role as Gen Jack D. Ripper in Dr. Strangelove or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb?

Hayden cooperated with the House Un-American Activities Committee and regretted it for the rest of his life. I think his role in Strangelove was a sort of purging. In any event, fascinating man.


From Hayden's autobiography, Wanderer -
Hayden wrote:To be truly challenging, a voyage, like a life, must rest on a firm foundation of financial unrest. Otherwise, you are doomed to a routine traverse, the kind known to yachtsmen who play with their boats at sea... cruising, it is called. Voyaging belongs to seamen, and to the wanderers of the world who cannot, or will not, fit in. If you are contemplating a voyage and you have the means, abandon the venture until your fortunes change. Only then will you know what the sea is all about. I've always wanted to sail to the south seas, but I can't afford it." What these men can't afford is not to go. They are enmeshed in the cancerous discipline of security. And in the worship of security we fling our lives beneath the wheels of routine - and before we know it our lives are gone. What does a man need - really need? A few pounds of food each day, heat and shelter, six feet to lie down in - and some form of working activity that will yield a sense of accomplishment. That's all - in the material sense, and we know it. But we are brainwashed by our economic system until we end up in a tomb beneath a pyramid of time payments, mortgages, preposterous gadgetry, playthings that divert our attention for the sheer idiocy of the charade. The years thunder by, the dreams of youth grow dim where they lie caked in dust on the shelves of patience. Before we know it, the tomb is sealed. Where, then, lies the answer? In choice. Which shall it be: bankruptcy of purse or bankruptcy of life?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterling_Hayden

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:36 am
by barracuda
brainpanhandler wrote:While Hayden was good as the corrupt Captain McCluskey in The Godfather, who could ever forget his role as Gen Jack D. Ripper in Dr. Strangelove or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb?

Hayden would have been as magnificent a spy as he was a commando. Gotta say my favorites are The Killing and The Long Goodbye.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:39 am
by freemason9
But we are ALL spies, really.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:25 am
by nathan28
This sounds a lot like the old KGB "agent" list--they'd routinely use phone books to pad the rolls to please administrative demands--something like 100,000 Americans were listed as KGB assets in KGB documents and they never knew.

Dr Ruth was an IDF Sniper

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:30 am
by MinM