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some youtubers are collecting the examples, here's one with a 12 Year Old Girl Tells the Truth on Fox News about Georgia. Fox News even had to cut them off right in the middle of the account of Georgian aggression even though they had just come from a commercial break 2 minutes prior to that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ&feature=related

Thanks for posting this. I'm putting it in other forums. It's a godamm fucking shame that the MSM has turned this into an "evil Russia" story.WTF.

Just because the Georgians are "bad" doesn't mean that the Russians aren't.

Yeah, what's with the hatin' on Georgia?

The Ruskies are the good guys now?

Are we even supposed to pick sides on this??

Has America gotten so fucking braindamaged and conditioned that we have to do this "you have a choice of two" thing?

Exactly:

1. Russia and Georgia can't both be bad. One has to be good and one has to be bad.

2. You have to hate one of the sides.

3. You have to hate those who have picked the OTHER side.

Those are the rules in America now. Love them or get the fuck out.

Oh right. It's all part of that "divide and conquer" thing. bingo.

nomo wrote:Yeah, what's with the hatin' on Georgia?
The Ruskies are the good guys now?
Are we even supposed to pick sides on this?

well, yeah, it's uncomfortable, but the basic story, if true, of a surprise Georgian attack on a sleeping city is true, and it seems to be, it's not that hard to accept the Russian response. Would rather there were no deaths, but if an army attacks you, an army is needed to stop it.

Has America gotten so fucking braindamaged and conditioned that we have to do this "you have a choice of two" thing?


I'm not sure if I would say brain damaged, but I definately would say gullible. But at the same time I would also say people can only dine on the menu they have to choose from. When truth isn't on the menu its pretty hard to find and eat. If people knew the truth they would cook and eat their leaders.......literally...

justdrew wrote:Would rather there were no deaths, but if an army attacks you, an army is needed to stop it.

"You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well-known is this: never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!"

Line feed "breaks" after difficult question for Condi.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=322_1218816591

Justdrew wrote:

Truth on Fox News

That was my first red flag! They have gone so far up their own asses that one cannot believe it if they say the sky is blue!

I find it odd to see so many of the 9/11 Truthers, "conspiracy" minded people like myself(para politic minded), ect taking sides with Russia.

While the elites have long wanted to manipulate a war with the US and Russia, people forget that Russia blew up its own damn buildings to jumpstart a war that killed nearly 200,000 Chechens.

A country that does that sort of crap is NOT a "good guy". Russia are globalist scum, just like the American government, Saudi Arabia's government, UK's government, China's government, ect.

So Georgia, a US puppet was inspired to blow up its citizens and provoke a crushing Russian invasion. Sounds like more elite Hegelian dialectic. Like getting kids on a playground to fight eachother.

SonOfKitty wrote:.....
It's a godamm fucking shame that the MSM has turned this into an "evil Russia" story.WTF.

How could it be otherwise?

MGM has announced that Red Dawn will be remade "keeping in mind the post-9/11 world that we're in".

This is a real boon for both military recruiting and GOP campaigns for 'war president.'

Headlines like "Russia Cuts Georgia in Half" and "McCain Supports Georgia" do wonders for getting more of those 50% of US military recruits that come from the slave states and firming up the Fox TV Republican base's choice for War President.

Here's an illustration-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dawn

Red Dawn is a 1984 film by John Milius about an invasion of the United States by the Soviet Union, Cuba and other Communist Central American armies, and the resulting guerrilla actions of a group of American high school students in the town of Calumet, Colorado.
.....
At one time, Red Dawn was considered the most violent film by the Guinness Book of Records and The National Coalition on Television Violence, with a rate of 134 acts of violence per hour, or 2.23 per minute.
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The operation to capture former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein was named after the movie (Operation Red Dawn), as well as its targets, which were dubbed Wolverine 1 and Wolverine 2. The Army captain who named the mission said that "Operation Red Dawn was so fitting because it was a patriotic, pro-American movie." Director John Millius said about the operation's name: "I was deeply flattered and honored. It's nice to have a lasting legacy."

Enemies make the American Way worth living. And hatin' on Russkies is an old habit.

OK, first: please present unequivocal evidence that Russia was behind the apartment bombings that helped start the 1st Chechen war.

Please show how Russia has invaded helpless countries across the globe over the last sixty years; in contrast to countries on its buffer fringe that help protect it from UK/US.

Please show how the Russian economic and governmental model has been foisted on virtually all the countries in the Third World, with disastrous results. Cuba, you say? You mean the one with the embargo, the one where the poor have the best living standard in Latin America?

Please show how Russian investment capital has spent the last 500 years fucking up and pauperizing the planet. The Russian Mafiya, you say? You mean the ones connected with the oligarchs and the greatest looting and capital flight ever in human history, facilitated by the West after 1991?

Please.

Has it occurred to you that you were also the victim of propaganda during the Chechen wars, but weren't paying attention> Do you have any idea of what the Chechen fundies were doing to their own people? Like Taliban on steroids. And we were involved, we were. Afghanistan? Well, the commie government the Russians were invited in to protect was the best the country has ever had.

SO DON'T GO ON AND ON LIKE THE RUSSIANS ARE PARALLEL TO US. No, they ain't saints, but they have not and never will wreak the havoc that US/UK have in the world, because they got their own ill-begotten Eurasian empire centuries ago, and have managed to protect it. THey've actually thrown out, through revolution, two distinct systems that didn't work for them. They will never, ever equal the US/UK in the malignant influence on this planet, and they also did us the favor of proving that State socialism didn't work either.

Please envision a world without Russia. And go on believing that Russia is the flip side of the coin. Go on believing that Solzhenitsyn was a saint (Stalin WAS a Georgian, of course). Without Putin and the deep political forces of the old Russian commies, Russia would be completely and totally gutted, reduced the chattel status, everything privatized, with wars raging across its autonomous regions (yes, they have them, unlike the US) and all its resources in Western pockets. It would have been reduced to a non-threat, and the real war, the one where we finally dismantle China, would be already much more advanced. Following that, we would end up with the real NWO, the boot stomping on the human face forever.

I as just at the epicenter of world finance, London, and I don't want to live in that world of complete surveillance, like a sheepfold. But perhaps all we end up with instead is Eastasia/Eurasia/Oceania.

justdrew wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ&feature=related

He ends it saying: "There are gray areas in war." Which reminds me of a line from Lyotard's Postmodern Condition: "it can be said that the boundaries only stabalize when they cease to be stakes in the game."

SonOfKitty wrote:Line feed "breaks" after difficult question for Condi.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=322_1218816591

Look at the look on Condi's face.

The Canadian Globe & Mail was on fire in its' Saturday edition with two hard-hitting articles in its' Focus (editorial) section:

1.How Misha messed up

Why on earth did Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili provoke this week's conflict and rekindle Russian expansionism? Mark MacKinnon traces how a once-thrilling reformer lost his way

2. An excerpt (can't be found online) of Ronald Wright's, What Is America?: A Short History of the New World Order, which detailed the M-I-T, the finance fraud, and reccent US-Russian history...

I was flabbergasted to have seen these two articles juxtaposed in a mainstream western paper, in which the same day in a phone call, Harper supposedly supported the Bush-Brzezinskian propaganda line.