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Fourth Base: Weird and Wonderful Megalomania

Postby FourthBase » Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:10 am

I don't even know how to begin this thread. I'm going to try to ignore the unwritten rules of what constitutes a general discussion. I'm just going to talk about me. I'm an egomaniac. I'm not sure whether the egomania is justified or unjustified. Just in case: I'm going to let you know every single thing I think, every single thing I am. I'm going to try anyway. I don't know if I can do it. But I'm going to try. Am I important? Yes, maybe. I'm not congratulating myself though. Being potentially important sucks, in a way. A big way. I might not be important. But, I'm probably important. I'm 99% sure I'm important. In the nearly infinite scenarios of me, there is the possibility of me being the most important person ever, me being the worst person ever, and me just being a worthless loser. If you feel the need to remind me sarcastically or unsarcastically that I'm one or the other, then I should let you know that I feel the might-as-well-be reality of every scenario, equally. And because of that, all I have left is to be as honest as possible. I don't trust myself, let alone you. But if you just abandon your ego at the door, maybe you'll be able to hear me sing, with both the most confusing and complex ego ever, and an identical ego as yours. I really don't know what to make of myself. Except that I know for sure that if I'm not trying to make life as worthwhile and right as I can possibly make it, then I am worthless. Less than worthless if whatever truths I possess (arbitrarily) are undercut by my own (arbitrary) psychological baggage. (G and J!) So I'll try my best to undercut my own psychological baggage, to whatever extent it takes to be helpful to you and everyone. For example, should I have subjected even the most erroneously confident meat-eater to pictures of dogs and cows butchered? Probably not. I wanted to get revenge, because those pictures, that reality, makes me sob. There ARE better ways for me to persuade everyone, even if they still involve pictures. Why keep showing MLK dead and assassinated, even if it actually happened? It shouldn't have happened. We never should have been eating pigs and cows and dogs and cats and birds. No one has ever successfully imagined a different more moral world. Number one on the list of proofs for success: Successfully imagining a world to the utmost necessarily involves the best case scenarios being realized in the real world. But how is so much shit so awful right now, just curious. How in the hell did we wind up doing what we're doing? Only being 31 years old, I can't really say. Evolution? Whatever the process was, however natural it was, it ain't right. But it probably also ain't right for me to subject people to reality they can only keep sane by ignoring. Sane and insane, simultaneously. Women have been slaves! And they've also been masters, behind the scenes. Everyone is to blame, and nobody is at fault. How hard is it to accept the paradoxical dilemmas of life? Almost impossible. I sometimes wish I'd wound up like the stereotypical Southie quasi-hero. A good kid who suffered much but found a commonplace peace of mind at the MWRA. I didn't wind up that way, though. I wound up like the kind of realistic once-a-bully-then-perpetually-bullied Will Hunting that would've existed had he been born from a lineage of strong indomitable characters, and who then found his way to understanding Nietzsche, better than even Nietzsche himself. Who understands the inscrutable David Foster Wallace better (although maybe not more) than David Foster Wallace himself. I don't resent the kids I grew up with who tormented me though. It wasn't their fault. Neither was it my fault. I know, so trite, but if that movie's good for anything, it's that scene. I want to gather all the kids who ostracized and bullied me, and I want to throw them a party. Life is way too fucking short to hold grudges. Life is way to fucking unpredictable to decide that there's no way you could connect with even a monster like Dick Cheney and change his mind for the benefit of all. If you think there are demons, fine. If you think there are demons who have more control over the world than you do, then you are wrong. You, and I, can do whatever the fuck we want. If we've grown up without being terrorized beyond belief -- and as many times as I was punched in the face, I am aware there are worlds of hurt I can't comprehend -- then that "you are free" should result in really good and hopeful and empathetic attempts to help "save" the world. As if it needs saving. Life is great. You'd rather be dead? Really? Within the past three months, in the same family, my family: One cousin tried to off herself, and failed. "Failed". LOL! (SOB) Then her sister took a stupid dare and did something that should have killed her, and she's not dead, nor is she even paralyzed. My family is full of stupid, lucky, indestructible characters. How the fuck am I alive? I have been places in my mind that would've driven 99% of humanity to suicide. I am a tourist of suicidally profound thought, and what I've concluded: I much prefer home. The home of meaning, unthinking meaning, the kind of meaning you felt during childhood if you didn't have a completely fucked up childhood, the kind of meaning you felt if you DID have a completely fucked up childhood but have since recovered and then some. My heroes are Holocaust survivors who NEVER KILLED THEMSELVES, because what they discovered in their incomprehensibly horrific experiences in that one stage of their life, was the secret to happiness. Not that suffering itself is worth discovering that secret. But the secret is often the accidental bi-product of unimaginable suffering survived, I imagine. Nietzsche. If you are not reading him in the healthiest possible way, then you're only reading your own sick self, and you should go to a doctor. After 20+ years of mind-blowing depression and anxiety without ever abiding by a schedule of prescribed medication, I'm now at the point where I've respected my natural/nurtured curses long enough, I'm now ready to completely disrespect my anxiety and leash it with pills. Enough. Forget a leash, I want a pill that will smash my (organically born and justified-by-reality) anxiety in the face from behind with a folding chair, behind the ref's back, so that I can jump on it and pin it to the ground until it is defeated. I can't beat my anxiety at the moment, it's too strong. It often outthinks me. My life and I have created a monster, one that's always been slightly stronger than me. Fuck that monster. Fuck it to hell. I could actually play a small-to-big part in saving the world. You could, too. I'm not about to let the absurd texture of ultimate reality trip me up. I'm pretty sure I am viewing the world with an almost ideal combination of cynicism and generosity. I'm not the GOAT. But I'd like to be known as a credit to my species, I'd like to one day be inducted into the Human Hall of Fame, even as a 3rd rate hall-of-famer. Our species is AWESOME. We fucking rock. We are beautiful. We're not perfect. IF we were perfect, ironically, we wouldn't be beautiful -- we'd be hideous. I'm drunk. Very. But if you think I'm not going to continue, in the future, blabbing about myself in both real and imagined ways...then just wait for each time this thread is poignantly bumped by me. Cheers, fuckers, cheers. I'm not alone! CHEER THE FUCK UP. Just like that corny PrimetimeLive story about the dying professor giving his last lecture, I'll reveal this: None of what I have ever posted here was for you. It was all for me, the me at the times. But shit, if you find anything useful, how lucky! Use it! HOWEVER, this is hardly my last "lecture" here. See that Scientology thread? It's on its what, 17th page? You, the extraordinary audience and members of RI, are about to watch a behind-the-scenes look at a recovering loser try to save the world. Should be fun!
“Joy is a current of energy in your body, like chlorophyll or sunlight,
that fills you up and makes you naturally want to do your best.” - Bill Russell
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Postby 8bitagent » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:04 am

Dude! I love you man! I just read every word and agree with almost everything. I'm all about shattering paradigms, challenging people, even challenging the fringe. You're 31, I'm 30...going on 100, going on 15.

People like you and I, it's hard to fit in anywhere. We are puzzled that more people don't wake up and see how truly horrifying this world is perhaps...maybe we can see why so many chose to stay wrapped up in their own shaped reality. I saw a thread on here asking what reality even was versus people's own perceptions.
I too was bullied all through school til high school. *insert obligatory Nietzsche quote here*

And hey I dealt with clinical deep depression since I was 9...Ive been free of meds for a decade, and feel great. My jihad in real non internet life
is reaching dream goals, encouraging people and trying to be an inspiration cloaked in silly good cheer. Humor is the ultimate weapon!

I've been through a lot, but we should never ever let anything get in the way of our glorious futures. You want to be a successful film director like me? You want to be a far off expeditioner...a well known novelist, a teacher? Never let any circumstance get in your way.

Hey sounds like we were both odd kids, always questioning, then questioning the questions. I'm still convinced time has stayed still for the better part of a decade in an odd Matrix like way.

A part of me wishes he could unfurl a 300 foot long black banner on the side of a tall building on Vessey and Church the morning of 9/11 that says
"2,774 People Died Right Here So The War Machine Could Keep On Rolling"

I am VERY sad at how many cows, pigs, turkeys, ect are systematically slaughtered. I am a proud vegetarianism, and I find that America's obestity is most likely linked to all the garbage meat filled fast food they push upon us.

MLK should never have been killed, neither should RFK. 9/11 shouldnt have happen. But THEY had to make sure they did. THEY are very sick folks.

Richard Dawkins would probably hate me, as I can't support Atheistic Darwinist views as gospel. Call me a creationist, I just don't buy such a sterile random explanation for all life.
What can I say?

Im anti abortion, anti war, pro gay marriage, pro intelligent design...
strangely enough I am both anti religion but pro religion in some ways.

People in privileged society(North America) SHOULD be grateful.

I might talk a lot about a literal Satanic new world order agenda, "they", the elite with their boot on everyone's neck. But for a lot of people like you and I...we have the power to do whatever we want. The power to sit and watch tv all day, or the power to start a revolution.
People should turn that victim feeling into a spear for revolutionary positive change...

Anyways, Im not drunk, and I understood every word you read.
Fuck the haters! I absolutely love the message of the Dalai Lama, but I also like the message of Marilyn Manson:

Anti choice and anti girl
I am the anti-flag unfurled
Anti white and anti man
I got the anti-future plan
Anti fascist, anti mod
I am the anti-music god
Anti sober and anti whore
There will be enough of anti more
I can't believe in the things
That don't believe in me
Now it's your turn to see misanthropy
Anti people now you've gone too far
Here's your antichrist superstar

Anti money and anti hate
Anti things I fucked and ate
Anti cop and anti fun
Here is my anti-president gun
Anti Satan and Anti black
The anti world is on my back
Anti gay and anti dope
I am the faggot anti-pope
I can't believe in the things
That don't believe in me
Now it's your turn to see what I hate about me
Anti people now you've gone too far
Here's your antichrist superstar
Anti people now you've gone too far
Here's your antichrist superstar

Anti peace and anti life
Anti husband and anti wife
Anti song and anti me
I don't deserve a chance to be
Anti people now you've gone too far
Here's your Antichrist superstar
Anti people now you've gone too far
Here's your antichrist superstar
"Do you know who I am? I am the arm, and I sound like this..."-man from another place, twin peaks fire walk with me
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Postby Nordic » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:24 am

My diagnosis, FourthBase:

One of three options. You're either

a) joking around

b) are manic depressive and our on a major manic spell.

c) doing blow.
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Postby OP ED » Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:02 am

Egomania can be liberating. Who benefits from your dissociation from self, which so many religions recommend?

*wasn't bullied in highschool, but never fit anything, mostly avoided by people most of my life*

*not entirely/all bad things*

I like you as well, Fourthbase, always have. Especially so since you're so much better at going overboard than most of the p.c. people here. You manage to be both engagingly friendly and subtly (and not-so) insulting simultaneously. This is a trait I admire in any animal.

*insert me insulting you in some way*
*follow with a smiley of some sort, in order to make it confusing*

You are also a participant in the Great Work. This makes us allies, whether we like it or not. So I wish you well in whatever it is you attempt to make more beautiful and/or true.

Love is the Law,
S.H.C.R
(DaNieL)
Giustizia mosse il mio alto fattore:
fecemi la divina podestate,
la somma sapienza e 'l primo amore.

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Postby slomo » Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:29 am

4B, I've had a crush on you forever!

It doesn't help that I also live in New England.
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Megalomania

Postby IanEye » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:07 am

I hide myself inside the shadows of shame
The silent symphonies were playing their game
My body echoed to the dreams of my soul
It started something that I could not control

Where can I run to now, the joke is on me
No sympathizing God, its insanity yeah

Why don't you just get out of my life, yeah
Why don't you just get out of my life, now
Why doesn't everybody leave me alone, now
Why doesn't everybody leave me alone, yeah

Obsessed with fantasy, possessed with my schemes
I mixed reality with pseudo god dreams
The ghost of violence was something I'd seen
I sold my soul to be the human obscene

How could this poison be the dream of my soul
How did my fantasies take complete control, yeah

Why don't you just get out of my life, yeah?
Why don't you just get out of my life now?
Why doesn't everybody leave me alone now?
Why doesn't everybody leave me alone, yeah?

Well I feel something's taking me I don't know where
It's like a trip inside a separate mind
The ghost of tomorrow from my favorite dream
Is telling me to leave it all behind
Feel it slipping away, slipping in tomorrow
Got to get to happiness
Want no more of sorrow

Realized when to hide
How I tried to get away from you now
Now am I right if I fight
That I might just get away from you now
Sting me!

Well I feel something's giving me the chance to return
It's giving me the chance of saving my soul
Pictures of demigod are fading away
I'm going backwards but I'm in control
Feel it slipping away, slipping in tomorrow
Getting back to sanity, providence of sorrow

Was it wise to disguise
How I tried to get away from you now
Is there a way that I could pay
Or is it true I have to stay with you now

How I lied, went to hide
How I tried to get away from you now
Am I right in my fight?
That I might just get away from you now
Suck me!

I'm really digging schizophrenia, the best of the earth
I've chase my soul in the fires of hell
Peace of mind eluded me but now it's all mine
I simply try but he wants me to fail
Feel it slipping away, slipping in tomorrow
Now I've found my happiness, providence of sorrow

No more lies, I got wise
I despise the way I worshipped you yeah
Now I'm free let me see
That now instead, I won't be led by you now

Free!


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Postby freemason9 » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:32 am

At the ripe old age of 52, I see things differently. I do remember having the same thoughts as yours, though, and perhaps you were surprised by the number of respondents that said likewise. It is a thing of youth to believe that our thoughts are unique, and that we are outsiders. The truth of the matter is that most of us feel as outsiders. I think that is a human condition.

My sage advice? Don't think so much. Live your life, love life, love your friends, and enjoy beauty as it exists. This world is absolutely impermanent and of little real consequence, so don't overly trouble your soul by attaching substance to it.

Breathe, feel the sun shining on your face.
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Postby Penguin » Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:58 am

"The Brain is a horrible disease"
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Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:55 pm

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Postby orz » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:00 pm

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Postby brekin » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:03 pm

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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:12 pm

The biggest thing that shattered me during my last major psychedelic experience was the realization that everyone I considered "normal" or "drones" had the same fears, hatreds and insecurities that I did.

Thinking I was different just meant I perpetuated everyone else's alienation.

Now I like approaching total strangers, and I especially like people proving my assumptions about them wrong.

IT HAPPENS A LOT WHEN YOU PAY ATTENTION.
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Postby beeline » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:16 pm

Whoa
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Postby Sepka » Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:08 pm

freemason9 wrote:My sage advice? Don't think so much. Live your life, love life, love your friends, and enjoy beauty as it exists. This world is absolutely impermanent and of little real consequence, so don't overly trouble your soul by attaching substance to it.

Breathe, feel the sun shining on your face.


This is exceptionally good advice.
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Postby Avalon » Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:22 pm

Whoever you are, whatever you want to do, breaking big blocks of text into paragraphs will generally help people read and absorb what you are writing more easily. ;)
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