Iamwhomiam » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:05 pm wrote:There are some people, and I have met some of them, due to stories like this one and that they never read completely through, who actually believe that the Greenland ice sheet disappeared in July 2012, and you can’t convince them otherwise.
I work daily on this issue and I have never heard anyone who believes this. In fact, this is the first mention I've read anywhere that suggests there are people who believe the Greenland ice sheet disappeared last year.
Luther Blisset wrote...
This is the first I've ever heard of it as well, and a number of my clients are involved in the climate crisis; I read about it everyday as well.
I was simply pointing out the overblown rhetoric that was posing as information.
“This is the most frightening picture you will ever see. The information expressed visually here can be summed up in three words: change or die. So let’s take a closer look.”
But, yeah, I do see why people do not want to dwell on the absurdity of the propaganda.
Vaclav Klaus
http://xrepublic.tv/node/882
Don't worry. In 10 years when this has obviously become a scam, the same people that believe in the scam right now will be calling it a scam, and the team will be together again, on this issue at least. The believers intentions are noble and admirable, no matter how far off the mark they may be. I have respect and admiration for believers though because they ardently fight for what they believe is right.
This is about carbon trading, and not about climate change. Climate change is a vehicle to usher in carbon trading. Pollution is a serious issue that should be addressed before we all drown in our own poison, but climate change is a Red Herring for carbon trading.
Climate change is watch the right hand as it hypnotizes you, while the left hand arranges carbon trading right under our noses. It is magic. Nothing more.
The roster of players that initially orchestrated this game, the same players and ilk of players that orchestrate all the biggest magic shows in history, clearly demonstrate that this should be considered another magic show, until proven otherwise.
PT Barnum himself couldn't top this one due to the fact that ultimately...the premise is unproveable. The perfect magic show, ultimately, never has a conclusion that can be proven. Time will be the judge of this magic show. After this audience dies and is buried the next audience will be just as enthralled by the ringmasters, even more so because they will have been born into it and it will seem like truth.
If people lived for 1000 years these magic acts would be much harder to pull off because the audience would become jaded.
It is very hard to jade an audience when the audience only lives 70 years, and the magicians write the history.
You make a valiant effort Ben D, but your tactic of pointing to the irony of the propaganda will not work because most folk here are fully entranced by Rockefeller consensus pretences. Awhile back when appeals to authority were sourced from the Church of the 94% and 190 million dollar denier slush fund, I had a good laugh and then did a bit of link chasing and oh man, what I found. Of course it could be confirmation bias, but I don't think so. They think that with enough money any narrative of their choosing can be manufactured.
Ben D wrote...
Msn News had headlines that read "U.K. Hit by Worst Cold in Decades". Southern USA has had below freezing temperatures the whole month of December and weather forecasters are saying it's the coldest December in decades. The Rockies were surprised with such an early blizzard this year and the list goes on.
Living in an area that harbours the ringleaders of the importance in eradicating global warming gives me confidence to repeat what I've said all along. It's another way of controlling people's affairs and supporting the agencies that do just this. We now pay emission control checks that cost on top of registration, our farmers are under stricter regulations, thus open to inspections at all times...and again, the list goes on.
Then we have the fact, since it's global, there are reasons for all countries to divulge certain amounts of information they might not otherwise do. The entire thing to me stinks of bringing us one step closer to NWO and many steps made for the reputations of those taking us there.
Only my opinion and you know everyone has one
Hmmm, sounds reasonable to me, so lets not talk about it. We wouldn't want such messy stuff to intrude on our precious conscious models.
http://humanistcafe.wordpress.com/2013/08/03/teapocalypse-the-map-of-denier-states-under-the-sea/
Teapocalypse: The *MAP* of Denier States Under the Sea
Posted on August 3, 2013 by HUMANISTCAFE
There is no amount of empirical data that will persuade the modern conservative that climate change is a reality.
Not the fact that the polar ice caps are melting . Not the fact that Arctic sea ice is disappearing. Not the fact that the global concentration of carbon dioxide has reached 400 parts per million. Not the fact that frankenstorms and wildfires wreak indiscriminate havoc with alarming regularity. Not even the fact that 2001-2010 was the warmest decade in recorded history.
The planet is cooking and all Johnny Wingnut can say is, “pass me the Hawaiian Tropic.”
And, it doesn’t matter where the information comes from, either. NOAA and NASA are part of a One World Order conspiracy or, at the very least, a socialist plot to eradicate guns, god, liberty and Ted Nugent.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23538771
Rise in violence 'linked to climate change'
By Rebecca Morelle Science reporter, BBC World Service
Shifts in climate are strongly linked to increases in violence around the world, a study suggests.
US scientists found that even small changes in temperature or rainfall correlated with a rise in assaults, rapes and murders, as well as group conflicts and war.
The team says with the current projected levels of climate change, the world is likely to become a more violent place.
The study is published in Science.