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CIA using missile strikes to `tickle' terrorists

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:56 pm
by chlamor
CIA using missile strikes to `tickle' terrorists

By STEPHEN MANNING –

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Central Intelligence Agency is using strikes against enemy targets to learn how the groups respond when attacked, the agency's director said Wednesday.

Speaking at the Air Force Association's annual conference, Michael Hayden said the clandestine agency is trying to "tickle" enemy groups to provoke a reaction, often with missile strikes targeting just an individual.

"We use military operations to excite the enemy, prompting him to respond. In that response we learn so much," said Hayden, a retired Air Force general who has led the CIA since 2006.

Hayden said the CIA is working closely with the military in places such as Iraq's Anbar province, where American troops have fought Sunni insurgents. That experience helped CIA officers develop a strategy to engage Sunni tribal leaders, which Hayden said has contributed to a recent drop in violence in Iraq.

The agency "picked up insights we would not have had" by working with American forces, Hayden said.

Hayden's speech came on the final day of the Air Force conference, an annual gathering of mostly Air Force officials and defense contractors that supply the service. Hayden retired in July from the Air Force, where he had been head of the service's intelligence office before leading the National Security Agency for a six-year run that ended in April 2005.

The CIA flies Predator drones, unmanned planes that can hover for hours and carry missiles for precision strikes. While not confirming those tactics, Hayden said that U.S. forces are now able to make pinpoint attacks against specific targets.

"Our pilots are targeting not structures, but individuals," Hayden said.

Many of those strikes are now conducted along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border, where U.S. forces are hunting insurgents and terrorist groups that are believed to be using the loosely governed area as a base. For example, a suspected missile attack from a drone Wednesday in Pakistan killed at least six people.

Hayden said the CIA also was focusing more on sending agents to immerse themselves overseas in duty locations for longer periods of time. More than half of agency analysts have been hired since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

But the U.S. education system has not responded to the latest threats in the way that it focused on the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Hayden said the agency needs more experts in non-Western cultures and languages.

"We have not seen the shift in academia for the current war that we saw for the previous war," he said.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hhvK ... QD938MQD81

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:35 am
by ultramegagenius
maybe if the homeland wasn't in utter and total disarray, there might be something legitimately called academia that could conceivably be re-organized along such ideological lines. this prick is really the victim of his own past success!! unbelievable! probably just crocodile tears to get more funding for his multi-lingual cyborg kill-bots..

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:38 am
by nathan28
Does this mean they've got predator drones outside the short sellers' houses?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:32 am
by 8bitagent
Funny thing is, they had a predator hellfire missile equipped drone that locked onto Osama bin Laden in Dubai circa summer 2000...they were told to stand down, because he and his al Qaeda chiefs were falcon hunting with top Arab state officials and CEOS. Bin Laden, is and always was NWO...just too bad so many otherwise good hearted CIA and FBI, military and DOD are being taken for a ride.

So why does the Pentagon put out hit video game shooters? For precisely this: the future of war. Video game joysticking remote tanks and UAV's to kill Muslims and people in far off lands.

Most these airstrikes on "al Qaeda" in Pakistan do nothing but kill villagers. Period.

And shame on Obama for wanting to invade Pakistan...not that the NWO would let anyone take away their convenient proxy monster factory.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:47 am
by MacCruiskeen
Michael Hayden said the clandestine agency is trying to "tickle" enemy groups to provoke a reaction


Oo là-là, no wonder wedding parties are among their favourite "enemy groups". Picture the smirk on Hayden's face when he said "tickle". Imagine the appreciative titters from those distinguished "Air Force officials and defense contractors".

"We use military operations to excite the enemy, prompting him to respond. In that response we learn so much"


"Tickle", i.e. dismember; "excite", i.e. enrage. Hear that predator drone.

Where's Wilhelm Reich when you need him? Dead in a US jail, that's where.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:08 am
by MacCruiskeen
It is really time for a Reich revival. "Emotional plague" and "character armour" are starting to look like indispensable terms.

"We Blew Her to Pieces"

September 19, 2008 By Dahr Jamail
Source: Inter Press Service

MARFA, Texas, Sep 16 (IPS) - Aside from the Iraqi people, nobody knows what the U.S. military is doing in Iraq better than the soldiers themselves. A new book gives readers vivid and detailed accounts of the devastation the U.S. occupation has brought to Iraq, in the soldiers' own words.

"Winter Soldier Iraq and Afghanistan: Eyewitness Accounts of the Occupation," published by Haymarket Books Tuesday, is a gut-wrenching, historic chronicle of what the U.S. military has done to Iraq, as well as its own soldiers.

Authored by Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW) and journalist Aaron Glantz, the book is a reader for hearings that took place in Silver Spring, Maryland between Mar. 13-16, 2008 at the National Labour College.

"I remember one woman walking by," said Jason Washburn, a corporal in the U.S. Marines who served three tours in Iraq. "She was carrying a huge bag, and she looked like she was heading toward us, so we lit her up with the Mark 19, which is an automatic grenade launcher, and when the dust settled, we realised that the bag was full of groceries. She had been trying to bring us food and we blew her to pieces."

Washburn testified on a panel that discussed the rules of engagement in Iraq, and how lax they were, even to the point of being virtually non-existent.

"During the course of my three tours, the rules of engagement changed a lot," Washburn's testimony continues. "The higher the threat the more viciously we were permitted and expected to respond."

His emotionally charged testimony, like all of those in the book that covered panels addressing dehumanisation, civilian testimony, sexism in the military, veterans' health care, and the breakdown of the military, raised issues that were repeated again and again by other veterans.

"Something else we were encouraged to do, almost with a wink and nudge, was to carry 'drop weapons', or by my third tour, 'drop shovels'. We would carry these weapons or shovels with us because if we accidentally shot a civilian, we could just toss the weapon on the body, and make them look like an insurgent," Washburn said.

Four days of searing testimony, witnessed by this writer, is consolidated into the book, which makes for a difficult read. One page after another is filled with devastating stories from the soldiers about what is being done in Iraq.

Everything from the taking of "trophy" photos of the dead, to torture and slaughtering of civilians is included.

"We're trying to build a historical record of what continues to happen in this war and what the war is really about," Glantz told IPS.

Hart Viges, a member of the 82nd Airborne Division of the Army who served one year in Iraq, tells of taking orders over the radio.

"One time they said to fire on all taxicabs because the enemy was using them for transportation...One of the snipers replied back, 'Excuse me? Did I hear that right? Fire on all taxicabs?' The lieutenant colonel responded, 'You heard me, trooper, fire on all taxicabs.' After that, the town lit up, with all the units firing on cars. This was my first experience with war, and that kind of set the tone for the rest of the deployment."

Vincent Emanuele, a Marine rifleman who spent a year in the al-Qaim area of Iraq near the Syrian border, told of emptying magazines of bullets into the city without identifying targets, running over corpses with Humvees and stopping to take "trophy" photos of bodies. "An act that took place quite often in Iraq was taking pot shots at cars that drove by," he said. "This was not an isolated incident, and it took place for most of our eight-month deployment."

Kelly Dougherty, the executive director of IVAW, blames the behaviour of soldiers in Iraq on the policies of the U.S. government. "The abuses committed in the occupations, far from being the result of a 'few bad apples' misbehaving, are the result of our government's Middle East policy, which is crafted in the highest spheres of U.S. power," she said.

Knowing this, however, does little to soften the emotional and moral devastation of the accounts.

"You see an individual with a white flag and he does anything but approach you slowly and obey commands, assume it's a trick and kill him," Michael Leduc, a corporal in the Marines who was part of the U.S. attack of Fallujah in November 2004, said were the orders from his battalion JAG officer he received before entering the city.

This is an important book for the public of the United States, in particular, because the Winter Soldier testimonies were not covered by any of the larger media outlets, aside from the Washington Post, which ran a single piece on the event that was buried in the Metro section.

The New York Times, CNN, and network news channels ABC, NBC and CBS ignored it completely.

This is particularly important in light of the fact that, as former Marine Jon Turner stated, "Anytime we did have embedded reporters with us, our actions changed drastically. We never acted the same. We were always on key with everything, did everything by the book."

"To me it's about giving a picture of what war is like," Glantz added, "Because here in the U.S. we have this very sanitised version of what war is. But war is when we have a large group of armed people killing large numbers of other people. And that is the picture that people will get from reading veterans testimony...the true face of war."

Dehumanisation of the soldiers themselves is covered in the book, as it includes testimony of sexism, racism, and the plight of veterans upon their return home as they struggle to obtain care from the Veterans Administration.

There is much testimony on the dehumanisation of the Iraqi people as well. Brian Casler, a corporal in the Marines, spoke to some of this that he witnessed during the invasion of Iraq.

"But on these convoys, I saw marines defecate into MRE bags or urinate in bottles and throw them at children on the side of the road," he stated.

Numerous accounts from soldiers include the prevalence of degrading terms for Iraqis, such as "hajis," "towel-heads" and "sand-niggers".

Scott Ewing, who served in Iraq from 2005-2006, admitted on one panel that units intentionally gave candy to Iraqi children for reasons other than "winning hearts and minds".

"There was also another motive," Ewing said, "If the kids were around our vehicles, the bad guys wouldn't attack. We used the kids as human shields."


Glantz admits that it would be difficult for the average U.S. citizen to read the book, and believes it is important to keep in mind while doing so what it took for the veterans to give this historic testimony.

"They could have been heroes, but what they are doing here is even more heroic -- which is telling the truth," Glantz told IPS. "They didn't have to come forward. They chose to come forward."

http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/18859

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:51 am
by nathan28
MacCruiskeen wrote:It is really time for a Reich revival. "Emotional plague" and "character armour" are starting to look like indispensable terms.


That picture above really encapsulates so much information it's astounding. I see that it's from "How Stuff Works," not a Reichian site, so that just makes its unconscious revelation of armoring that much more surprising.

...Reich, though, a genius, but also a megalomaniac and completely bonkers. And when you look at it, even Selig's work with "stress", which popularized a medical understanding of his coinage, still has had little effect, despite the popularity of the term. How many people even know what the stress-response curve looks like? How many people understand the practical application? In an environment that poorly informed, does it seem likely that we'd ever get to character armor? :( :( :(

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:57 am
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:33 am
by MacCruiskeen
nathan28 wrote:
...Reich, though, a genius, but also a megalomaniac


Well, no doubt he wasn't "flawless", and that's apparently what's demanded of thinkers nowadays. But rather than calling him "megalomaniac", I'd say he had a pretty good idea of the value of his own life's work, which is why he fought like hell to protect it.

and completely bonkers.


Nope. Or how d'you mean? If he did eventually start to "lose it" at the very end of his life (and it's a moot point when, if ever, that happened), then only after being persecuted beyond all reason in four European countries and then seeing his reputation attacked, his books burned and his work destroyed in the USA.

In an environment that poorly informed, does it seem likely that we'd ever get to character armor? :( :( :(


Nobody needs to know anything about stress-response curves in order to "get" the idea of character-armour. Anyone can feel it, and remember the moments when it was formed. The real, unspoken, objection to Reich's thought is that it's too simple, i.e. even an uneducated worker, or a dancer, or a child, can "get" it immediately.

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Maybe every age has the thinkers it deserves. If so, then the current popularity of Lacan and Zizek speaks volumes about the times we live in, and not just about the state of the academies.

Time for a Reich revival!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:02 am
by ultramegagenius
is it that simple? is there a particularly good website detailing this concept of character armor and related Reichian concepts?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:36 am
by MacCruiskeen
ultramegagenius wrote:is it that simple? is there a particularly good website detailing this concept of character armor and related Reichian concepts?


Here's a fairly good intro from the website of the Wilhelm Reich Museum:

Freud had discovered that neuroses are caused by the conflict between natural sexual instincts and the social denial and frustration of those instincts. Freud had also hypothesized the existence of a biological sexual energy in the body. He called it “libido,” and described it as “something which is capable of increase, decrease, displacement and discharge, and which extends itself over the memory traces of an idea like an electric charge over the surface of the body.”

But as the years passed, Freud and his followers diluted much of this concept, reducing the libido to little more than a psychological energy or idea. By 1925, Freud had concluded that “the libido theory may therefore for the present be pursued only by the path of speculation.”

Reich’s clinical work convinced him otherwise. He devoted himself to matters of technique in an attempt to overcome the limitations of psychoanalysis in treating neuroses. And in doing so he observed that sexual energy is more than just an idea, and that sexual gratification, in fact, alleviated neurotic symptoms. He discovered that the function of the orgasm is to maintain an energy equilibrium by discharging excess biological energy that builds up naturally in the body. If that discharge function is disturbed—as it proved to be in all of his patients—this energy continues to build up without adequate release, stagnating and fueling neurotic disorders. Reich also discovered that in psychic disturbances, this biological energy is bound up not only in symptoms, but more importantly, in the individual’s characterological and muscular rigidities—what he called “armor.”

Reich’s orgasm theory set him apart from his colleagues, because it indicated that the libido was a real physical energy that possibly might be measured quantitatively. Reich’s clinical work also led him to develop new therapeutic techniques to eliminate the patient’s character and muscular armor and allow for the flow and discharge of this bio-energy to achieve what he called “orgastic potency,” the capacity for total discharge of sexual excitation in the genital embrace.

But the widespread existence of sexual misery forced Reich to conclude that the solution to the problem of neuroses wasn’t treatment, it was prevention. “You have to revamp your whole way of thinking,” Reich said, “so that you don’t think from the standpoint of the state and the culture, but from the standpoint of what people need and what they suffer from. Then you arrange your social institutions accordingly.” (Reich Speaks of Freud)

Freud, on the other hand, maintained that culture takes precedence, that sexual instincts must be adapted to the existing social structure. These conflicting positions would lead to an eventual break between Reich and Freud.

Reich also devoted much of his time and money educating working class people about the essential role of sexuality in their lives. “I had six clinics in Vienna where people came and received advice once or twice a week…To provide medical and educational help was its purpose.” (Reich Speaks of Freud) To reach the greatest number of people, he worked within the Socialist and Communist parties in Vienna, and later in Berlin, to promote sex education, birth control, divorce rights, and better housing. Reich recalled that in Berlin there were about fifty thousand people in his organization in the first year.

Reich was also very outspoken about Germany’s turbulent political climate. Unlike most members of the Berlin Psychoanalytic Association, Reich openly opposed the rise of the Nazi Party. But Reich’s activities exacted a high price. In 1933 he was denounced by the Communist Party, forced to flee from Germany when Hitler came to power, and expelled from the International Psychoanalytic Association in 1934. Reich called these events “catastrophes which threatened my personal, professional and social existence.”

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http://www.wilhelmreichmuseum.org/biography.html


Apart from that, I'd recommend Myron Sharaf's wonderful biography (not a hagiography), Fury on Earth. The NYT, amazingly enough, gave it a very decent (but not flawless) review:

... As Mr. Sharaf remarks, most critical assessments of Reich's later work are ''either fulsomely positive, hence inadequate, or contemptuously negative.'' In his strenuous objectivity, Mr. Sharaf makes no judgment either way; he gives neutral descriptions of Reich's experiments and cool accounts of the far from neutral responses to them. So the burden falls on the reader, who must choose, as all those who knew Reich had to do, between regarding him as maligned genius or dangerous psychopath.

I must confess, I can't decide. By the time one reaches the last chapters of ''Fury on Earth,'' when Reich takes his ''cloud-buster'' machine to Arizona to prove he can make rain (it rained, but did Reich cause it?), one seems to have traveled infinitely far from the brilliant young psychoanalyst-Marxist of the 1920's. But the path, though long, is straight. Throughout the 1930's Reich was occupied with experiments in natural science, exploring the relation between psychic states and the body's bioelectrical energy fields. Consistently, his thinking went from the notion of the body as a selfcontained system to an emphasis on its interaction with the environment, so that when his most controversial concept, ''orgone energy,'' made its debut in 1940, it seemed to follow inevitably.

If the human body is an energetic economy, Reich thought, why shouldn't the same be true of the atmosphere, the earth, the entire universe? And if the body's economy can be altered by palpation, it seems logical that atmospheric energy, channeled through an ''orgone accumulator,'' should do the same thing. It's a small step from the orgone accumulator to the cloud-buster - and there we are in the desert, making rain. A line ought to have been crossed somewhere, the line that separates sanity from madness. But the reader of ''Fury on Earth,'' following Reich step by step, is unable to say where it falls.

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http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... A965948260

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:55 am
by ultramegagenius
whoa, so the orgone guy also wrote 'the mass psychology of fascism?' i've always wanted an in to his theories. totally awesome! thanks.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:29 pm
by MacCruiskeen
ultramegagenius wrote:whoa, so the orgone guy also wrote 'the mass psychology of fascism?' i've always wanted an in to his theories. totally awesome! thanks.


Yup, same guy, and you're welcome.

Reich is, probably not incidentally, the only psychologist I know of who ever gave a true account of what sex actually feels like, at its best and at its less-than-best. When I first read him in my early 20s, it was like encountering a great novelist: That feeling: Yes, that's right, that's what it's like, why has no one ever described this before?

And if you ever wondered about those little dancing points of light you see when you stare at a clear blue sky, well, he's yer man too. He noticed a hell of a lot.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:56 pm
by 8bitagent
I find it embarassingly shameful there is not an "Afghanistan Vets Against the Afghanistan war" or anti war people en masse calling for an end to Afghanistan occupation. I hate the hypocracy of people sometimes.

Bottom line is the US has spent(borrowing from China in part) a lot of freaking money to murder and destroy innocent Muslims and their land along with scaremongering America and getting a lot of mileage off the 9/11 fable.

Shame on Obama for wanting to go into Pakistan, and wanting to "be tougher on the war on terror than Bush".

"Tickle Terrorists", awww...like P2OG, the Rumsfeldian plan to stoke and incite insurgents?

These people truly are the cliche of problem reaction solution.

How many more innocent middle easterners are going to have to die before people wake the hell up?