10/2:CIA-Disney, Brad Will, '68 Mexican massacre, LHOswald

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10/2:CIA-Disney, Brad Will, '68 Mexican massacre, LHOswald

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:08 pm

on edit 10/20/08-
Turns out that the Mexican government's cover-up of the murder of Indymedia journalist Brad Will erupted today. So CIA-Disney created a sugary movie decoy to come out a couple of weeks before to let it sink into our minds and they included three other Mexican-themed info-liabilities:
-the '68 Olympics massacre
-the iconic photo of Black Power salutes at those Olympics
-the CIA's framing-up of Lee Harvey Oswald.
...details on Brad Will's death added on page 2 of this thread...


Now, my original post figuring out just what CIA-Disney was up to with their Mexican-themed psyops movie...

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I noted that the year of the movie 'Borat' was also a big year for the US-UK alliance with the dictator of Kazakhstan including a pending trial of the CIA-oil executive who passed on the US government's $86 million bribe to him.
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And the year of 'Nacho Libre' was a big year for stolen elections in the ongoing dirty war in Mexico and the persecution of dissent leader 'Nacho' del Valle.
http://www.narconews.com/Issue41/article1889.html
http://native-resistance.blogspot.com/2006/05/dirty-war-returns-to-mexicomay-18-2006.html
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October 2 is the anniversary of the still unresolved 1968 Plaza de las Tres Culturas massacre of scores or hundreds of student protestors in Mexico.
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And a key date in the patsying up of Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico, too.
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Thanks to the HSCA investigators efforts we finally learned, fifteen years after the assassination, the "mystery man" photographs were not taken on October 1, as identified by Goodpasture, they were taken on October 2.


http://home.wi.rr.com/harveyandlee/MexCity.htm
At 7:16 pm Anderson telephoned FBI official Wallace R. Heitman and advised the CIA photographs were "deep snow stuff" and requested they not be made available outside of the Bureau.[127] ASAC Kyle Clark then notified the SAC in Dallas, "CIA photographed Oswald coming out of the Russian Embassy, Mexico City, 10/2/63."

NOTE: The dates of October 1 and October 2 are significant. Oswald was allegedly in Mexico City on October 1, but departed Mexico City at 8:30 am on October 2. Following the assassination CIA officer Ann Goodpasture claimed for many years the "mystery man" photographs were taken on October 1, before Oswald departed Mexico City. Her lie was exposed in 1978 when confronted by the HSCA.

Several of the "mystery man" photographs were turned over to FBI SA Eldon Rudd who then advised the SAC in Dallas, "Attached are a series of photographs taken on 10/1/63 and 10/4/63....." Rudd took some of the photos and soon boarded a Naval AttachŽ plane in Mexico City for Dallas.

NOTE: The FBI knew on November 22, 1963 the photos were not Oswald. According to SA Rudd, some of the photos were taken on October 4; two days after Oswald departed Mexico City.


SO, of course, CIA-Disney gives us a cute animal animation movie taking place in Mexico, 'Beverly Hills Chihuahua' which opened October 3, 2008.
(Originally advertised to open one week earlier on September 26.)

Would you believe that the keyword "Chihuaahuenses" is part of the saga of how some CIA agents created a false trail bus trip to the Soviet embassy in Mexico City to frame up Oswald for the murder of President Kennedy? True.

So CIA-Disney is killing two birds with one decoy movie, the anniversary of the 1968 massacre and the anniversary of framing up Oswald complete with a keyword hijacking.

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http://home.wi.rr.com/harveyandlee/MexCity.htm
Following is the full text, with footnotes, of the Mexico City chapter from John Armstrong’s Harvey and Lee: How the CIA framed Oswald (ISBN 0-9745097-0-1, Quasar Press, Arlington, Texas, 1022 pages). This chapter appears on pages 614-706 of the bound book. It is copyright Ó 2003 by John Armstrong and is posted here with the expressed permission of the author.
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Oswald departs Mexico via Transportes del Norte bus lines


On March 30, 1964 confidential informant "T-13" interviewed Ricardo Medina Beltran, the manager of the Mexico City terminal of the Transportes del Norte bus line. Medina said that his company had two direct trips daily to Nuevo Laredo. One bus departed at 8:30 am, arrived at "Kilometer 26" about 1:00 am, and arrived in Nuevo Laredo at 2:00 am. Medina said that the lists of bus passengers were maintained only for a short period of time following their use. However, Medina allegedly said that he "set aside the lists for early October, 1963, in the event their (sic) should be any further need for them."[196] How convenient !!

Within a short time Medina allegedly located the passenger reservation list for bus No. 332, which departed Mexico City at 8:30 am, October 2, for Monterrey. The list contained the names of passengers, seat assignments, destination, and ticket numbers. The list was complete except for the names of the passengers assigned to seat numbers 12 and 15. Seat number 15 was assigned to "A. Viajos," with ticket No. 13619, and seat number 12 was assigned to "Chihuaahuenses," with ticket No. 13688.[197]

The same day, without any further investigation, confidential informant "T-13" determined through "confidential witnesses" and "unidentified sources" that Oswald departed Mexico City on October 2 at 8:30 am aboard Transportes del Norte bus No. 332. Oswald then changed to a Greyhound bus in Laredo, Texas and arrived in Dallas at 2:20 pm. How "T-13" arrived at this conclusion remains unknown.



NOTE: "T-13" allegedly told the FBI that Oswald departed Mexico City on Oct. 2 at 8:30 pm aboard the Transportes del Norte bus. But according to informant "T-11," confidential informant "T-13" was not the individual who located this information. "T-11" located this information on April 2, 1964.



On March 31, 1964 confidential informant "T-13" contacted Miss Rosa Maria Oroeco at the Auto Viajes Internacionales travel agency. Miss Maria allegedly advised "T-13" that her agency ("A. Viajes") reserved seat number 15 on Transportes del Norte bus No. 332 for Anastacio Ruiz Meza, and sold him ticket #13619.

On April 1, 1964 confidential informant "T-11" contacted the manager of the Chihuaahuenses travel agency, Miss Teresa Schaeffer Bequerisse. "T-11" asked Miss Schaeffer if her agency ("Chihuaahuenses") sold ticket No. 13688. Miss Schaeffer located a "reservation and purchase order #13688 (not a bus ticket)," but found that it was "in blank, never having been utilized."[198] She then insisted that her travel agency had not handled the reservation noted on the Transportes del Norte passenger list for October 2, 1963.

"T-11" then asked if he could review all reservations and purchase orders for October 1963. Within a few minutes "T-11" located a carbon copy of purchase order No. 14618 (actually a Reservation Request), issued on September 30, 1963 in the name of "H.O. Lee" for seat number 12 on Transportes del Norte bus No. 332 which departed Mexico City for Laredo, Texas at 8:30 am.[199]

The Reservation Request/Purchase order No. 14618, in the amount of $7.50 (93.75 pesos), was allegedly given to Transportes del Norte ticket agent Angel Cubriel in exchange for bus ticket No. 13688 from Mexico City to Laredo, Texas via Monterrey.

An employee who worked in the front office of the travel agency, Margarita Labastiba, said she remembered the American who purchased the ticket. She described the man as tall and with a great deal of hair.



NOTE: The American who purchased this ticket was neither the short man with "thin, blond hair" who visited the Cuban Consulate and could not possibly have been Harvey Oswald who was 5'9" and had thinning, brown hair.
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Postby orz » Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:55 am

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Postby stefano » Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:24 pm

So when and how did the spooks persuade Sacha Baron Cohen to make Borat come from Kazakhstan? You do know he created that character a few years before the movie came out, don't you?

For someone so convinced of the truth of KWH, you seem curiously incurious about the mechanics of it.
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:29 pm

stefano wrote:So when and how did the spooks persuade Sacha Baron Cohen to make Borat come from Kazakhstan? You do know he created that character a few years before the movie came out, don't you?

Kazakhstan has been a fuel supply target for many years, an inevitable keyword added to the world's bold print nations associated with the US-UK Oil Empire.

Nobody knows what made Cohen add a Kazakhstan character to his repertoire no matter what he tells us.

But OTHER people besides him made his character into a feature film and saturated US media with it for the better part of a year. Psyops culpability (same thing as MARKETING) starts at THAT level and potentially can go all the way to the source, Cohen.
For someone so convinced of the truth of KWH,

I've found around 60 years of pop media examples. Hundreds and hundreds of keywords hijacked.
you seem curiously incurious about the mechanics of it.


You are mischaracterizing "the mechanics of it" and my level of interest.
I've examined the process thoroughly to find the varied paths from 'psyops need schedule' to 'psyops product delivery to target audience.'

Besides creating psyops product from scratch, lots of psyops is simply amplifying the visibility of existing product which suits the purpose. There is lots to choose from.

In CIA 'news' (TV, Time, Newsweek, etc.) this selective function is called "editing."

I have documented the LIFE SPAN and EVOLUTION of psyops with some psyops movies being remade with adjustments and additions to accomodate events in the time elapsed.

Like the original CIA code name and scandals that put "Agent Kelso" in the 1965 version of CIA-Disney's 'That Darn Cat' which, due to whistleblowers from IranContra in the 1980s and the FBI assassination of Martin Luther King coming forward in the 1990s, modified the remake of that movie to add subliminal negative framing of those whistleblowers.

Spooks reading this site (and they sure do) are taking counterpropaganda notes for their own careerism ("sending Brad and Mary to Choate is expensive!") and thinking "Crap, that's sure what happened. How to keep America's parents from finding out that Disney is CIA for kidz? The internet is beginning to dump our REAL family jewels.]"
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Re: 10/2:CIA-Disney, 1968 Mexican massacre, Lee Harvey Oswal

Postby IanEye » Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:45 pm

(quote)October 2 is the anniversary of the still unresolved 1968 Plaza de las Tres Culturas massacre of scores or hundreds of student protestors in Mexico.
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And a key date in the patsying up of Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico, too.
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Thanks to the HSCA investigators efforts we finally learned, fifteen years after the assassination, the "mystery man" photographs were not taken on October 1, as identified by Goodpasture, they were taken on October 2.


http://home.wi.rr.com/harveyandlee/MexCity.htm
At 7:16 pm Anderson telephoned FBI official Wallace R. Heitman and advised the CIA photographs were "deep snow stuff" and requested they not be made available outside of the Bureau.[127] ASAC Kyle Clark then notified the SAC in Dallas, "CIA photographed Oswald coming out of the Russian Embassy, Mexico City, 10/2/63."

NOTE: The dates of October 1 and October 2 are significant. Oswald was allegedly in Mexico City on October 1, but departed Mexico City at 8:30 am on October 2. Following the assassination CIA officer Ann Goodpasture claimed for many years the "mystery man" photographs were taken on October 1, before Oswald departed Mexico City. Her lie was exposed in 1978 when confronted by the HSCA.

Several of the "mystery man" photographs were turned over to FBI SA Eldon Rudd who then advised the SAC in Dallas, "Attached are a series of photographs taken on 10/1/63 and 10/4/63....." Rudd took some of the photos and soon boarded a Naval AttachŽ plane in Mexico City for Dallas.

NOTE: The FBI knew on November 22, 1963 the photos were not Oswald. According to SA Rudd, some of the photos were taken on October 4; two days after Oswald departed Mexico City.


SO, of course, CIA-Disney gives us a cute animal animation movie taking place in Mexico, 'Beverly Hills Chihuahua' which opened October 3, 2008.
(Originally advertised to open one week earlier on September 26.)

Would you believe that the keyword "Chihuaahuenses" is part of the saga of how some CIA agents created a false trail bus trip to the Soviet embassy in Mexico City to frame up Oswald for the murder of President Kennedy? True.

So CIA-Disney is killing two birds with one decoy movie, the anniversary of the 1968 massacre and the anniversary of framing up Oswald complete with a keyword hijacking.

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http://home.wi.rr.com/harveyandlee/MexCity.htm
Following is the full text, with footnotes, of the Mexico City chapter from John Armstrong’s Harvey and Lee: How the CIA framed Oswald (ISBN 0-9745097-0-1, Quasar Press, Arlington, Texas, 1022 pages). This chapter appears on pages 614-706 of the bound book. It is copyright Ó 2003 by John Armstrong and is posted here with the expressed permission of the author.
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Oswald departs Mexico via Transportes del Norte bus lines


On March 30, 1964 confidential informant "T-13" interviewed Ricardo Medina Beltran, the manager of the Mexico City terminal of the Transportes del Norte bus line. Medina said that his company had two direct trips daily to Nuevo Laredo. One bus departed at 8:30 am, arrived at "Kilometer 26" about 1:00 am, and arrived in Nuevo Laredo at 2:00 am. Medina said that the lists of bus passengers were maintained only for a short period of time following their use. However, Medina allegedly said that he "set aside the lists for early October, 1963, in the event their (sic) should be any further need for them."[196] How convenient !!

Within a short time Medina allegedly located the passenger reservation list for bus No. 332, which departed Mexico City at 8:30 am, October 2, for Monterrey. The list contained the names of passengers, seat assignments, destination, and ticket numbers. The list was complete except for the names of the passengers assigned to seat numbers 12 and 15. Seat number 15 was assigned to "A. Viajos," with ticket No. 13619, and seat number 12 was assigned to "Chihuaahuenses," with ticket No. 13688.[197]

The same day, without any further investigation, confidential informant "T-13" determined through "confidential witnesses" and "unidentified sources" that Oswald departed Mexico City on October 2 at 8:30 am aboard Transportes del Norte bus No. 332. Oswald then changed to a Greyhound bus in Laredo, Texas and arrived in Dallas at 2:20 pm. How "T-13" arrived at this conclusion remains unknown.



NOTE: "T-13" allegedly told the FBI that Oswald departed Mexico City on Oct. 2 at 8:30 pm aboard the Transportes del Norte bus. But according to informant "T-11," confidential informant "T-13" was not the individual who located this information. "T-11" located this information on April 2, 1964.



On March 31, 1964 confidential informant "T-13" contacted Miss Rosa Maria Oroeco at the Auto Viajes Internacionales travel agency. Miss Maria allegedly advised "T-13" that her agency ("A. Viajes") reserved seat number 15 on Transportes del Norte bus No. 332 for Anastacio Ruiz Meza, and sold him ticket #13619.

On April 1, 1964 confidential informant "T-11" contacted the manager of the Chihuaahuenses travel agency, Miss Teresa Schaeffer Bequerisse. "T-11" asked Miss Schaeffer if her agency ("Chihuaahuenses") sold ticket No. 13688. Miss Schaeffer located a "reservation and purchase order #13688 (not a bus ticket)," but found that it was "in blank, never having been utilized."[198] She then insisted that her travel agency had not handled the reservation noted on the Transportes del Norte passenger list for October 2, 1963.

"T-11" then asked if he could review all reservations and purchase orders for October 1963. Within a few minutes "T-11" located a carbon copy of purchase order No. 14618 (actually a Reservation Request), issued on September 30, 1963 in the name of "H.O. Lee" for seat number 12 on Transportes del Norte bus No. 332 which departed Mexico City for Laredo, Texas at 8:30 am.[199]

The Reservation Request/Purchase order No. 14618, in the amount of $7.50 (93.75 pesos), was allegedly given to Transportes del Norte ticket agent Angel Cubriel in exchange for bus ticket No. 13688 from Mexico City to Laredo, Texas via Monterrey.

An employee who worked in the front office of the travel agency, Margarita Labastiba, said she remembered the American who purchased the ticket. She described the man as tall and with a great deal of hair.



NOTE: The American who purchased this ticket was neither the short man with "thin, blond hair" who visited the Cuban Consulate and could not possibly have been Harvey Oswald who was 5'9" and had thinning, brown hair.
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Hugh, can you tie in this key 1968 imagery to your main thesis of this particular thread?
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Re: 10/2:CIA-Disney, 1968 Mexican massacre, Lee Harvey Oswal

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:07 am

IanEye wrote:Hugh, can you tie in this key 1968 imagery to your main thesis of this particular thread?
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take that, ManAtee....


First let me say, IanEye, that I've come to really appreciate your associative memetic vocabulary using images and lyrics. Not everyone understands that language. You really do. After totally misunderstanding you once a while ago, now I especially look forward to your posts. You really hit it on the head here.

That iconic image of empowered black athletes with the Fist of Revolution and Resistance up in the air at the 1968 Olympics in Mexico was this year MEME-REVERSED in
CIA-Time Magazine's August 25, 2008 issue on page 5.

I've discovered that two traits of counterpropaganda are keyword or meme hijacking and meme-reversal.

Spooks have used advertising as psyops for ages and this time a full-page Visa ad...("Worldwide sponsor for over 20 years and the only card accepted at the Olympic Games")...showed three African-American track athletes DOWN ON THEIR KNEES WITH BOWED HEADS in a prayerful embrace at the Olympics.

This body language is one of submission, acquiesance, obeisance, surrender, capitulation, etc. The EXACT OPPOSITE of the upright 1968 image of resistance.

Typical spook work, exploiting ritual to reaffirm the values of the ruling class and displace 'hostile propaganda.'
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Postby starviego » Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:27 am

Look at the picture of the atheletes. Note the "9" on the jacket of the guy on the right. Now note the two up stretched arms. I see a "1" and a "1." And that means "9-11." Coincidence? I THINK NOT!!

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Postby stefano » Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:55 am

Hugh wrote:But OTHER people besides him made his character into a feature film and saturated US media with it for the better part of a year. Psyops culpability (same thing as MARKETING) starts at THAT level and potentially can go all the way to the source, Cohen.


But how, more precisely? How do you think this gets done? You must at least have thought about it.
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Postby Hammer of Los » Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:54 am

It's done easily of course. Mockingbird assets high up in the corporate media structures can effortlessly push or tweak material, ensure it has high visibility for themes they want propogated. Equally easily themes and material that are potentially damaging can be derailed or marginalised. It's largely about what gets pushed and what gets pulled.

I think there might be something a wee bit suss about the Borat stuff, and actually about Sasha Baron Cohen too. It's just a feeling mostly, given the material he performs. I find it racist actually. I don't like the fellow. He has certainly been given the rising star treatment.

On the other hand, the Chihuahua thing I just don't buy. Hugh, you are a marvel, but on some occasions (not as often as some here like to assert) you do simply overreach.

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Postby stefano » Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:52 am

Who are these "Mockingbird assets"? People who join the CIA, then get told to get a job in production studios? Or people who already work there? And then when a script comes along for a movie about Chihuahuas they know enough about the Oswald case to think "oh yeah, that's on the list, we have to hijack that 40-year old reference to a Mexican travel agent?"
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Postby Hammer of Los » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:13 am

Stefano wrote:Who are these "Mockingbird assets"? People who join the CIA, then get told to get a job in production studios? Or people who already work there? And then when a script comes along for a movie about Chihuahuas they know enough about the Oswald case to think "oh yeah, that's on the list, we have to hijack that 40-year old reference to a Mexican travel agent?"


I am not sure you are addressing me, since I already stated that I didn't buy the Chihuahua thing. Not that Disney don't do psypop, of course they do.

If you really want to know the sort of media and communications people who work for the CIA, you can begin your education at the following link;

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKmockingbird.htm
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Postby stefano » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:28 am

It was meant for Hugh, actually, but thanks for your reply though I'm having troubles with the link. I'm reading stuff Hugh's put in the data dump in another tab.

I'd also like to know if Hugh's thought about controlling for the possibility that it really is a coincidence (don't scoff, now): he's obviously read enough to come across hundreds of thousands of proper nouns in both history and media, and it would have been weird if hundreds of those nouns had not been the same.
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Postby orz » Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:57 pm

Nobody knows what made Cohen add a Kazakhstan character to his repertoire no matter what he tells us.

Haha talk about circular logic. Any evidence against your theories is arbitarily invalid? Great. How convenient for you.
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:48 pm

Hammer of Los wrote:It's done easily of course. Mockingbird assets high up in the corporate media structures can effortlessly push or tweak material, ensure it has high visibility for themes they want propogated. Equally easily themes and material that are potentially damaging can be derailed or marginalised. It's largely about what gets pushed and what gets pulled.

I think there might be something a wee bit suss about the Borat stuff, and actually about Sasha Baron Cohen too. It's just a feeling mostly, given the material he performs. I find it racist actually. I don't like the fellow. He has certainly been given the rising star treatment.

On the other hand, the Chihuahua thing I just don't buy. Hugh, you are a marvel, but on some occasions (not as often as some here like to assert) you do simply overreach.

I still love ya man.

"On the other hand, the Chihuahua thing I just don't buy."

But remember, this movie is CIA-Disney.
They market things for a national security reason.

So what do you think CIA-Disney would be up to here, HoL?

I think The Mexican History Thing is the primary ulterior motive (Oswald's framing is secondary but real) since the US now has a huge Latin American population that scares the pants off the government in case they get political and mad.

Hence the pointless immigration ICE/FALCON raids keeping the enforcers ready to be deployed to decapitate any movement to the streets. See 'the 60s and COINTELPRO.'
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