Black Monolith of Kubrick's 2001: An Esoteric Mystery(9/11)

[8bitagent]

The other night, I had quite a profound paradigm shifting sort of experience.
No, I didn't take LSD or DMT or any sort of drug. I saw, for the first time Stanley Kubrick's 2001. I thought I had seen it before, as I've seen thousands of films...but somehow, I managed to not see this.
Suffice to say, it was quite the experience.

While filming began in 1965, I was taken aback by how flawless it looks; digitally remastered yet with no added cg effects, it looks like a movie that could have just came out. Unlike Star Wars A New Hope(1977) and others to follow, 2001 to me seems to be so ahead of its time, it's uncanny. This is a film made in 1965; but it has wireframe computer generated graphics, a guy playing a video game(chess), it has flat panel lcd looking monitors, video phones, ect.

But there were several things that profoundly unnerved me, in a good way(much like the Shining did) The scene where near the end where you see this several minute torrent of colors and lights pulsating at the screen juxtaposed with still shots of a contorted face. Man, I can imagine what it woulda been like to see this on LSD in the theatres 40 years ago.

1968 and 2001 were, certainly two monumental seachange eras in American history(moon landing, MLK/RFK assassinations, instalation of Nixon, massive riots, ect)

And of course, the creepy effect of how the Black Monolith just appears.





Stanley Kubrick's last film of course was Eyes Wide Shut, which he
died shortly after filming. 666 days after his death, the year 2001 was upon us.

But see, a curious thing happened in 2001.

The Black Monolith, reared its head in our collective consciousness
33 years after 2001: A Space Oddyssey





According to the official Hilton hotel website:

http://www.hiltonfamilynewyork.com/millenium-hilton.php

The hotel is a high-rise black glass building which pays homage to Arthur C. Clarke's vision of the Monolith in "2001: A Space Odyssey" - complete with canopy, flags and ornamental trees at the entrance.

Jake Kotse's newest video goes into an esoteric view of The Black Monolith, and the esoteric symbolism of the 9/11 attacks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSm9m_C8Mbw

Interesting article called "Alchemical Kubrick: 2001 A Space Odyssey" exploring its esoteric side:
http://www.rense.com/general7/alchemkubrick.htm

In Kubrick's 2001, the lead character Bowman has a stark transformation...almost seeming to pass through the monolith at the end...peering through a portal of sorts. I have to wonder if, perhaps we as a collective consciousness and humanity passed through some sort of transformation or portal with the 9/11 events

[seemslikeadream]

excellent! Can I borrow that?

a portal of sorts

A Stargate, perhaps?


The Star and The Gate

The Star





and The Gate







A Stargate

[Telexx]

Great post - thanks!

Cheers,

Telexx

[NeonLX]

That movie had a profound effect on me as well. I saw it back when it was making the first rounds in the theaters.

I, too, am amazed at how "current" it still looks.

And I'm bummed that we never became as "advanced" as we were supposed to be by 2001, according to that movie anyway.

2001: The Reality, sucked a lot worse than I'd ever imagined.

[kelley]

i've no doubts about the ritual significance of the morning of 9/11 (the morning, 'the dawn'), but someone should tell kotse there are three pyramids at the necro-complex at giza, and not two. it weakens his argument when he tries to literally link the numerous pairs of pairs illustrated in the video, unless he's suggesting the hilton is the third structure of the staging of the event in lower manhattan, which i didn't think he is . . . he makes interesting points, but alot of this type of conjecture is usually dismissed as reaching, since the logic behind it isn't completely tight.

and speaking of literalism, kubrick was dealing in metaphor, however esoteric or base (there's a nice juxtaposition) the movement of his imagery became. his entire corpus really does constitute a picture of thought which hopes to transcend typical mind/body dualities. 'a space odyssey' is a profound meditation on consciousness, technology, and violence, but a reading of those themes won't exhaust itself in 'meaning'. that's one of the reasons '2001' is a great work of art.

[nathan28]

Nice try, but dead wrong.

This building is the Millenium Hilton. It was between and behind WTC 1 & 2 on the skyline shown.

That circled building is One Liberty Plaza, commissioned by US Steel.

While I think that there could be something on an archetypal level to this thesis, mis-identifying buildings that millions of people see every day, that thousands work in, destroys any credibility.

[8bitagent]

excellent! Can I borrow that?

a portal of sorts

A Stargate, perhaps?

Absolutely.

I would also add:





("pentagon" structure on cydonia of mars, with sirius star pattern ala the Chrysler logo)



*has still not read The Star Gate conspiracy*

This building is the Millenium Hilton. It was between and behind WTC 1 & 2 on the skyline shown.

Exactly, that was my point. The Millenium Hilton, of which the builders acknowledge it was patterned after the Black Monolith of 2001 fame, was nestled between WTC 1 and 2 near Vessey and Church.

[8bitagent]

Here's some other spooky 9/11 connections:

The Connection Between 9/11, Remote Viewing and the UFO Heaven's Gate Death Cult

In early 2000, several of the 9/11 hijackers while being monitored by the CIA, were sent by Saudi intelligence to live with a Saudi diplomat liason and a high paid FBI informant in San Diego named Abdusattar Sheikh.

Sheikh was good friends and worked with an Iranian FBI informant named Sam Koutchesfahani, who was accused of bringing in young would be jihadists under fake student visas in the 1990's. Some of these students allegedly were housed at one of his mansions, which he then ended up renting to the Heaven's Gate Cult lead by the mysterious "Doe" AKA Marshall Applewhite.

Now, the reason that the Heaven's Gate cult got obsessed about a "UFO" in the tail of the Hale Bopp comet is because an FBI remote viewer was on Art Bell in 1997 around the time of the Phoenix Lights and said
she saw a UFO in the tail of the comet. Incidentally, one of the men who killed himself was brother to the actress who played Uhurra in the original Star Trek.

This FBI remote viewer, along with the "high level occult martial arts trainer" Bert Rodriguez(who 9/11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah sought out to teach him the ways of esoteric arts) were both featured in Ronson's BBC documentary "Crazy Rulers of the World"

I'm telling you, ya can't make this stuff up.

[Foote Hertz]

Crop Circle at Barton Le Clay, Barton Springs, Bedfordshire, Reported 14th August 2008.

[Avalon]

If you want to tie in Mars with 2001, Holger Isenberg is the guy to go to:

http://mars-news.de/life/2001.html

[compared2what?]

Synchronistically enough, I happen to have seen Stanley Kubrick's Lolita yesterday, which I correctly thought I had seen before, like thousands of films.

But they happened to be showing it at Symphony Space; I'm a Kubrick-lover; and so much the information in his work is visual that it's always nice to see it in the form of film projected on a screen, as he control-freakily intended. It has more in common with Eyes Wide Shut than I'd realized, not having seen it in....maybe ten years? However, pretty much all Kubrick films have more in common with all other Kubrick films than it's easy to realize. He was an artist who was implacable (some would say "to a fault") wrt having a few questions he was interested in exploring and an unwavering dedication to damn well exploring them.

And....there's nothing wrong with being provoked to thought by a thought-provoking artwork, I guess. That's what they're there for. But I imagine that if I were he, I'd probably have been hoping that they weren't just the same thoughts the viewer already had going in, for reasons of his or her own. Especially if I'd gone to as much trouble as it took to make 2001. It was a such a technical tour-de-force at the time, it's still astonishing that he managed to get those effects in there at all.

It's kind of off-topic, but for those who care, the Kubrick Lolita has even less correspondence to Nabokov's book than Adrian Lyne Lolita does, though at least in the Kubrick version, that's intentional. It also has one of the most beautiful title sequences in cinema history, imo. As you can see yourself, right here.

[orz]

http://www.davidherbert.com/

[compared2what?]

Now that's what I'm talking about.

[brekin]

Well since we're playing:

[Luposapien]

Not to be too nit-picky, but the proportions of the VHS tape (1x4x7.375) don't quite match the very specific proportions of the Monolith, at 1x4x9, the cubes of the first 3 whole numbers. I believe in the book there was some intimation that these proportions were highly significant, and that they actually extended into higher spacial dimensions beyond the 3 that (most) humans are confined to. Don't know if that adds any fodder to this particular fire or not, but thought I'd throw it out there.

Oh, and if I recall correctly, the monolith is specifically referred to as a stargate in the novel as well.

And another "Oh", re the special effects, they were originally supposed to be heading to Saturn, not Jupiter, but Kubrick didn't feel that they were coming up with anything convincing for the rings. A good thing, too, since soon after the movie's release, NASA released the first detailed images of the rings, which would have dated the film almost immediately had they gone with any of their models for Saturn.