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International Criminal Gets Prison For Child Sex Crimes
Delmart Vreeland Claimed To Have Advance Knowledge Of Sept. 11 Attacks

POSTED: 11:24 am MDT October 24, 2008
UPDATED: 2:51 pm MDT October 24, 2008

CASTLE ROCK, Colo. -- A man with an international following has been sentenced to 336 years to life in prison after he was convicted of luring two boys into performing sex acts and making child pornography.

Delmart Edward Vreeland, 42, of the Cottonwood subdivision in Douglas County, was convicted in 2006 of 13 felony charges, including inducement of child prostitution, sexual assault, sexual exploitation of children, and distribution of cocaine. Earlier this year, he was convicted of six habitual criminal counts.

Vreeland was arrested in October 2004 for numerous charges including child prostitution. Witnesses reported that Vreeland provided drugs and alcohol to two teenage boys, and then induced them to perform sex acts and make child pornography for the promise of thousands of dollars and a drum set. The victims reported Vreeland to the Douglas County Sheriff's Office.

Detectives conducted an extensive background search on Vreeland and learned that he was wanted in several states and Canada. He has over 40 aliases and an extensive criminal history dating back over 20 years.

Vreeland posted bond and cut off his ankle bracelet, fleeing the state. Detectives tracked him down in Iowa and brought him back to Colorado.

Douglas County authorities called Vreeland an international "folk hero" and conspiracy theorist who claimed that while he was incarcerated in a Canadian Jail in 2001 he forewarned Canadian officials of the terror attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.

Vreeland has claimed to be a U.S. spy, a covert operative, and a Naval Intelligence Officer, all of which have been proven false, according to investigators. U.S. Naval records show that in 1986 Vreeland was kicked out of basic training for his inability to conform to military regulations.

Vreeland has continually claimed to have information on terror plots and high profile murder and kidnapping cases. However, Douglas County detectives and the FBI state that Vreeland's claims have no merit, and he is not a credible source of information.

"I am truly impressed by the professionalism and determination our department and the District Attorney's Office had during this lengthy case and trial. This dedication proves that justice was served for the victims involved and the community as a whole," said Sheriff David A Weaver.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/17 ... n&psp=news

Vreeland has claimed to be a U.S. spy, a covert operative, and a Naval Intelligence Officer, all of which have been proven false, according to investigators. U.S. Naval records show that in 1986 Vreeland was kicked out of basic training for his inability to conform to military regulations.

The position of the United States government, as represented by Crown Solicitors in Toronto, is that all of this is nonsense. Vreeland, says the Navy, was discharged as a Seaman after a few months of service for unsatisfactory performance in 1986. He has never had anything to do with intelligence according to 1200 pages of Navy records filed in Toronto Superior Court.

"How is it," says Galati, "that the Navy says that he was only in the service a few months and then send us a 1200 page personnel file? Some of the entries are obvious forgeries or alterations and the sanitizing of his records was done so hurriedly that some dates of medical exams in the 1990s were left intact."

In a January 10, 2002 tactic worthy of Perry Mason, with the greatest possible risk to his client if it failed, attorney Slansky got the judge to agree to let him call the Pentagon from open court. Using a speaker phone, in front of at least six witnesses, Slansky first dialed directory information and got a number for the Pentagon switchboard. Then, calling that number he asked the Department of Defense operator to locate the office of Lt. Delmart Vreeland. Within moments the operator had confirmed Vreeland's posting, his rank as a Lieutenant O-3, his room number and given Slansky his direct-dial number.

All of this is a part of the court record.

http://www.copvcia.com/free/ww3/01_25_0 ... eland.html

Just another piece of the puzzle to the mystery that Vreeland is. It's really hard to sift through all the haze that surrounds this guy. For me, there might be a grain of truth in this man's history to what he knows about what happened on 9/11. The fact that he went through Ruppert makes me skeptical at best tho.


Sibel Edmonds however is a completely different story.

Timing.

With the upcoming U.S. military 'surge' in Afghanistan, it is important to reinforce the cover story of 9/11 by discrediting contradictory messengers.

Vreeland isn't a dangerous target the way Richard Gage, Kevin Ryan, and Steven Jones are. Wouldn't want to give those guys more publicity because they can prove the inside job.

Vreeland isn't a dangerous target the way Richard Gage, Kevin Ryan, and Steven Jones are. Wouldn't want to give those guys more publicity because they can prove the inside job.

why don't they just damned well "prove" it then? Because they can't.

No matter what happens, CTs just dismiss all evidence they don't like. It's called cherry-picking.

Im a CT and the first thing i thought was, is there a guy by the same name that works for the DOD?

the_last_name_left wrote:

Vreeland isn't a dangerous target the way Richard Gage, Kevin Ryan, and Steven Jones are. Wouldn't want to give those guys more publicity because they can prove the inside job.

why don't they just damned well "prove" it then? Because they can't.
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Sure...unh-hunh...I have noted your posts about "troofers," a derogatory term for those who know the USG is lying about 9/11 like-

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=228382&highlight=#228382

"911 Troof" - compromised by fascism

911 Troof movement is deeply compromised by organised fascism. 911 Troof is used by fascism both as propaganda outlet, and as recruitment vehicle.

This dark underbelly of 911 Troof explains many things about "the movement" - how it has lost hold of its rationalism, how it has swung to the right, how it's become riven with anti-semitism and dogma.
.....
And doesn't 911 Troof love to ask "Qui Bono"?

Well, fascism has benefited greatly. 911 Troof should be very prod of itself for that achievement. Through 911 conspiracism fascism has managed to get its propaganda into the leftwing. Masquerading as non-partisan 911 conspiracism has allowed fascism to publish even amongst the left. That's been a great success for fascism. Qui Bono? Even now 911 Troof seems unable to accept how enmeshed it has become with fascism. A lot of evidence says 911 Troof was a fascist product from the start anyway.

My my my. How hostile you are to the 9/11 truth movement.
You even go so far as to turn it inside out and call it fascism, a meme-reversal of exposing false-flag terrorism.

Meme-reversal. Hmm.

Almost all at this board are smart enough to know the USG is lying desperately about 9/11.

I'll be reading your posts on that topic with great interest.

the_last_name_left wrote:

Vreeland isn't a dangerous target the way Richard Gage, Kevin Ryan, and Steven Jones are. Wouldn't want to give those guys more publicity because they can prove the inside job.

why don't they just damned well "prove" it then? Because they can't.

No matter what happens, CTs just dismiss all evidence they don't like. It's called cherry-picking.

Unfortunately for you they don't ignore irony.

the_last_name_left wrote:

HMW wrote:Vreeland isn't a dangerous target the way Richard Gage, Kevin Ryan, and Steven Jones are. Wouldn't want to give those guys more publicity because they can prove the inside job.

why don't they just damned well "prove" it then? Because they can't.
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They've proven it many times over.

Oh, I have noted your posts about "troofers," a derogatory term for those who know the USG is lying about 9/11 like your thread here-

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=228382&highlight=#228382

the_last_name_left wrote:"911 Troof" - compromised by fascism

911 Troof movement is deeply compromised by organised fascism. 911 Troof is used by fascism both as propaganda outlet, and as recruitment vehicle.

This dark underbelly of 911 Troof explains many things about "the movement" - how it has lost hold of its rationalism, how it has swung to the right, how it's become riven with anti-semitism and dogma.
.....
And doesn't 911 Troof love to ask "Qui Bono"?

Well, fascism has benefited greatly. 911 Troof should be very prod of itself for that achievement. Through 911 conspiracism fascism has managed to get its propaganda into the leftwing. Masquerading as non-partisan 911 conspiracism has allowed fascism to publish even amongst the left. That's been a great success for fascism. Qui Bono? Even now 911 Troof seems unable to accept how enmeshed it has become with fascism. A lot of evidence says 911 Troof was a fascist product from the start anyway.

"Conspiricism"??!! That's a word used quite a lot by CIA shill Chip Berlet to suggest that anyone who thinks spooks could plan secret crimes is just a kook. Very funny. "Conspiricism." sheesh.
You are at the wrong discussion board, pal. We know what PLANNING is and don't consider it a kooky idea.

My my my. How hostile you are to the 9/11 truth movement.

You even go so far as to turn it inside out and call it fascism, a meme-reversal of the 9/11 Truth Movement exposing false-flag terrorism used as an excuse for war.

Meme-reversal. Hmm.

Almost all at this board are smart enough to know the USG is lying desperately about 9/11.

I'll be reading your posts on that topic with great interest.
And that's the "troof."

I have noted your posts about "troofers," a derogatory term for those who know the USG is lying about 9/11 like your thread here-

No - it's a term for stupid people with poor reasoning whom believe 'the USG is lying about 9/11'.

My my my. How hostile you are to the 9/11 truth movement.

Some of it - yes, definitely. Specifically I'm hostile to any "movement" that resorts to distortion and cherry-picking, brown-shirting, anti-semitism, petty nationalism etc. It's a long list.

You even go so far as to turn it inside out and call it fascism, a meme-reversal of the 9/11 Truth Movement exposing false-flag terrorism used as an excuse for war.

Wrong!

My point is that 911 Troof is riddled with fascism. That shouldn't be a surprise as organised fascism has spent considerable energy pursuing that exact aim.

IF you disagree, you simply don't know the facts. Do you dispute the FACT that '911 Troof movement' is riddled with fascism, and has been the subject of infiltration and piggybacking by organised fascism?

Whether you know the facts or not - would you agree that in principle an organisation like 911 Troof being compromised by fascism should be a serious issue - at least for 'troofers'?

Almost all at this board are smart enough to know the USG is lying desperately about 9/11.

do you expect the unexpurgated truth about anything to emanate from USG? That governments lie is hardly a novel thought, is it?

there is no monolithic '911 Troof movement' - be specific

It's riddled alright - absolutely creepy crawly spookies, white power types, covert operators, psiwar manipulators, info-crack pushers, loan wolf 'morans' and the mad monks of Mulder, the bastard offspring of gonzo, the desperate, the despicable and the damned. The entire range of possibilities and every equal but opposite is mixed up in it running wild on the field.

(i told you so)

This is a quote from a thread at Stormfront. It clearly makes the basic arguments of why 911 Troof has been so important to the far-right ie organised fascism.

WN's = White Nationalists

I encourage all Stormfronters to view the new student documentary called "Loose Change". It makes some compelling arguments about 9/11, and nearly everyone I have shown it to is left in a daze.

It appears the 9/11 truth movement is gaining momentum by the day, and the implications for WN's are tremendous. Imagine the public backlash if the U.S. or Israeli governments were found to be implicated or responsible for the 9/11 attacks.

It would cause millions of Americans to believe our argument that the U.S. government and national media is controlled by an 'enemy within'. Even the holyiest of stories, the 'Holocaust', would come under suspicion.

I would like to see a greater WN involvment in this movement, in order to maximise pollitical gain. Please view this video, and if you agree with me, lets ask the SF administrators to set up a forum specifically for discussion of this topic.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=297290

Of course, that's just an example illustrating (part of) the rationale for fascist involvement in 911 Troof.

Later in the thread there's a reply by a Whiteman Jack, Editor and Stormfront Chief of Staff:

Notice the kids have been reading American Free Press - our guys.

I wonder how many people who read Christopher Bollyn's reports about 911 being "an inside job" knew they were reading someone whom SF considers "one of ours".......? Or Michael Collins Piper? Or Szymanski?

Why do you think Willis Carto's AFP pays these people to write this stuff? Do you think they're honest?

How much of what comprises 911 Troof has come from these (and similarly dubious) sources?

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And of course, whilst you're "watching" me and my views, you'll omit to "watch" the activity and presence of genuine fascism being secreted into 911 Troof. Just like a real Troofer should.

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justdrew wrote:It's riddled alright - absolutely creepy crawly spookies, white power types, covert operators, psiwar manipulators, info-crack pushers, loan wolf 'morans' and the mad monks of Mulder, the bastard offspring of gonzo, the desperate, the despicable and the damned. The entire range of possibilities and every equal but opposite is mixed up in it running wild on the field.

You fail to recognise the organised character of fascist interest and activity in 911 Troof, and the danger it poses - to "the truth" as much as to anything else.

You want to shrug-off the charge? All Troofers do.

the_last_name_left wrote:This is a quote from a thread at Stormfront. It clearly makes the basic arguments of why 911 Troof has been so important to the far-right ie organised fascism.

WN's = White Nationalists

I encourage all Stormfronters to view the new student documentary called "Loose Change". It makes some compelling arguments about 9/11, and nearly everyone I have shown it to is left in a daze.

It appears the 9/11 truth movement is gaining momentum by the day, and the implications for WN's are tremendous. Imagine the public backlash if the U.S. or Israeli governments were found to be implicated or responsible for the 9/11 attacks.

It would cause millions of Americans to believe our argument that the U.S. government and national media is controlled by an 'enemy within'. Even the holyiest of stories, the 'Holocaust', would come under suspicion.

I would like to see a greater WN involvment in this movement, in order to maximise pollitical gain. Please view this video, and if you agree with me, lets ask the SF administrators to set up a forum specifically for discussion of this topic.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=297290

Of course, that's just an example illustrating (part of) the rationale for fascist involvement in 911 Troof.

Later in the thread there's a reply by a Whiteman Jack, Editor and Stormfront Chief of Staff:

Notice the kids have been reading American Free Press - our guys.

I wonder how many people who read Christopher Bollyn's reports about 911 being "an inside job" knew they were reading someone whom SF considers "one of ours".......? Or Michael Collins Piper? Or Szymanski?

Why do you think Willis Carto's AFP pays these people to write this stuff? Do you think they're honest?

How much of what comprises 911 Troof has come from these (and similarly dubious) sources?

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And of course, whilst you're "watching" me and my views, you'll omit to "watch" the activity and presence of genuine fascism being secreted into 911 Troof. Just like a real Troofer should.

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seen this tactic a thousand times around here. try to equate a disbelief in official gov. dogma with anti semitism with all your might by comparing it to things with which the comparison is not valid. knock yourself out.......